Use art to turn the world inside out | JR

翻译人员: Lynn Zhang 校对人员: Felix Chen

Two weeks ago I was in my studio in Paris,

两周前在我巴黎的工作室，

and the phone rang and I heard,

我接到一个电话，

"Hey, JR,

“嗨, JR,

you won the TED Prize 2011.

你得奖啦，TED 2011年度大奖。

You have to make a wish to save the world."

你得许个能拯救世界的心愿。”

I was lost.

我有些迷茫。

I mean, I can't save the world. Nobody can.

我可没法拯救世界，没人能拯救世界。

The world is fucked up.

这世界早他妈没救了。

Come on, you have dictators ruling the world,

独裁者统治世界，

population is growing by millions,

人口数以百万的增长，

there's no more fish in the sea,

海里没鱼，

the North Pole is melting

北极消融，

and as the last TED Prize winner said,

刚才前一位获奖者也说了，

we're all becoming fat.

咱还越来越胖。

(Laughter)

（笑声）

Except maybe French people.

可能法国人除外。

Whatever.

管他呢。

So I called back

所以我又打过去

and I told her,

跟她说，

"Look, Amy,

“我说，Amy,

tell the TED guys I just won't show up.

就跟TED的朋友说我不去了。

I can't do anything to save the world."

我真的没法拯救世界啊。”

She said, "Hey, JR,

她说，“嗨，JR,

your wish is not to save the world, but to change the world."

你的心愿不用非得拯救世界，可以是改变世界啊。”

"Oh, all right."

“噢，那行啊。”

(Laughter)

（笑声）

"That's cool."

“好主意呀！”

I mean, technology, politics, business

你想，科技、政治，还有商业

do change the world --

都改变了世界——

not always in a good way, but they do.

当然有变好有变坏，但至少改变了嘛。

What about art?

那艺术呢？

Could art change the world?

艺术能改变世界吗？

I started when I was 15 years old.

我15岁就开始搞艺术，

And at that time, I was not thinking about changing the world.

那时没想着改变世界；

I was doing graffiti --

我那时喜欢涂鸦

writing my name everywhere,

就到处写下我的名字，

using the city as a canvas.

城市就是我的画布。

I was going in the tunnels of Paris,

我和朋友在巴黎的隧道里涂鸦，

on the rooftops with my friends.

在屋顶上涂鸦。

Each trip was an excursion,

每一次，都像是一场冒险，

was an adventure.

短暂而刺激。

It was like leaving our mark on society,

这就像给社会烙上我们的记号，

to say, "I was here," on the top of a building.

在每栋建筑顶端，表明，“我，来过。”

So when I found a cheap camera on the subway,

有一次，我在地铁里捡到一台廉价相机，

I started documenting those adventures with my friends

从那时起，我便开始和朋友一起记录我们的冒险之旅，

and gave them back as photocopies --

然后把照片洗出来，

really small photos just that size.

照片很小，就这么大吧。

That's how, at 17 years old,

就这样，17岁那年，

I started pasting them.

我开始将这些照片贴到墙上。

And I did my first "expo de rue,"

我还”举办“了人生中第一次街头涂鸦，

which means sidewalk gallery.

就是把街头当做画廊。

And I framed it with color

我特地给照片画上彩色边框，

so you would not confuse it with advertising.

那大家就不会以为是广告了。

I mean, the city's the best gallery I could imagine.

真的，我觉得城市是我能想象的最棒的画廊。

I would never have to make a book and then present it to a gallery

我不会将照片集结成册，然后拿给画廊

and let them decide

让他们评判

if my work was nice enough to show it to people.

我的作品是不是够格展出。

I would control it directly with the public

我把决定权交给街上的

in the streets.

路人。

So that's Paris.

那是巴黎

I would change --

在不同的城市，

depending on the places I would go --

我会给展览

the title of the exhibition.

取不同的名字。

That's on the Champs-Elysees.

那是香榭丽舍大道上。

I was quite proud of that one.

我挺得意那一场的，

Because I was just 18

因为那年我才18岁，

and I was just up there on the top of the Champs-Elysees.

就已经登上了”香榭丽舍峰“。

Then when the photo left,

后来即使照片不在了，

the frame was still there.

那些画框依然在墙上。

(Laughter)

（笑）

November 2005:

2005年11月，

the streets are burning.

街道陷入火海。

A large wave of riots

大批暴徒

had broken into the first projects of Paris.

冲进巴黎多栋高端建筑。

Everyone was glued to the TV,

那会儿人人都守在电视机前，

watching disturbing, frightening images

看着暴乱社区的画面，

taken from the edge of the neighborhood.

那些画面让人震惊和恐惧。

I mean, these kids, without control,

我的意思是，这群失控的孩子，

throwing Molotov cocktails,

他们投掷燃烧弹，

attacking the cops and the firemen,

袭击警察和消防员，

looting everything they could in the shops.

将商店洗劫一空。

These were criminals, thugs, dangerous,

他们是一群追逐自己利益的暴徒，

destroying their own environment.

是危险的罪犯。

And then I saw it -- could it be possible? --

我看着他们 -- 这是真的吗？ --

my photo on a wall

在一个汽车烧着了的画面里，

revealed by a burning car --

我看到墙上有一张我贴的照片 --

a pasting I'd done a year earlier --

那是一年前贴的 --

an illegal one -- still there.

是违规张贴 -- 依然在那里。

I mean, these were the faces of my friends.

这些，可都是我朋友的面孔啊，

I know those guys.

我认识他们，

All of them are not angels,

他们不是天使，

but they're not monsters either.

但也不是魔鬼。

So it was kind of weird to see

我从电视里看到他们时，

those images and those eyes stare back at me through a television.

他们仿佛也透过电视在盯着我，那感觉很怪。

So I went back there

我又去了那里，

with a 28 mm lens.

带着一个28毫米焦距镜头的相机，

It was the only one I had at that time.

那时我的设备只有这个。

But with that lens,

那台相机

you have to be as close as 10 inches from the person.

在拍摄时需要将距离拉近到10英寸（1/4米），

So you can do it only with their trust.

因此只有有了他们信任才能做到。

So I took full portraits of people from Le Bosquet.

我当时拍了四张面部特写，他们来自波士基。

They were making scary faces

他们做各种鬼脸，

to play the caricature of themselves.

表情夸张，展现自我。

And then I pasted huge posters everywhere

然后，我把大幅招贴张贴

in the bourgeois area of Paris

在巴黎中产阶级聚集区，

with the name, age, even building number

照片下面有他们的姓名、年龄

of these guys.

甚至地址。

A year later,

一年之后

the exhibition was displayed in front of the city hall of Paris.

这场展览蔓延到了巴黎的墙垣上，

And we go from thug images,

我们拍下这些照片，

who've been stolen and distorted by the media,

这些被媒体忽视和扭曲的形象，

who's now proudly taking over his own image.

他们现在自豪地展示他们真实的表情。

That's where I realized

那一刻我突然意识到，

the power of paper and glue.

图片和胶水的力量。

So could art change the world?

那么，艺术能够改变世界吗？

A year later,

又是一年之后，

I was listening to all the noise

中东地区冲突不断，

about the Middle East conflict.

充斥着我整个耳膜。

I mean, at that time, trust me,

相信我，那会儿，

they were only referring to the Israeli and Palestinian conflict.

他们只说，是以色列人和巴勒斯坦人的冲突。

So with my friend Marco,

于是我和我朋友马可

we decided to go there

决定去那里，

and see who are the real Palestinians and who are the real Israelis.

看看谁是真正的巴勒斯坦人，谁又是真正的以色列人，

Are they so different?

他们区别很大吗？

When we got there, we just went in the street,

到那之后，我们游走街间，

started talking with people everywhere,

跟当地人攀谈聊天，

and we realized that things were a bit different

而我们认识到事情

from the rhetoric we heard in the media.

跟媒体的说辞有些不同。

So we decided to take portraits

于是我们决定

of Palestinians and Israelis

给以色列人和巴勒斯坦人拍面部特写，

doing the same jobs --

就像之前那样，

taxi-driver, lawyer, cooks.

他们当中有司机、律师和厨师。

Asked them to make a face as a sign of commitment.

我们让他们对着镜头做个鬼脸，作为加入此次活动的“个性签名”，

Not a smile -- that really doesn't tell

不是微笑 -- 那不能真实地

about who you are and what you feel.

表达你自己和你的感受。

They all accepted

他们也都同意

to be pasted next to the other.

我将这些照片挨个张贴在墙上。

I decided to paste

我打算

in eight Israeli and Palestinian cities

贴八个以色列和巴勒斯坦城市，

and on both sides of the wall.

而且给隔离墙的两面都贴上。

We launched the biggest illegal art exhibition ever.

那一次，我们举办了有史以来最大的一次非法艺术展，

We called the project Face 2 Face.

我们叫做“面对面”。

The experts said, "No way.

那些专家曾说，“不可能，

The people will not accept.

他们不会同意的，

The army will shoot you, and Hamas will kidnap you."

当地的武装力量会射杀你们，哈马斯会绑架你们。”

We said, "Okay, let's try and push as far as we can."

我们便说，“好吧，那就看看我们能走多远吧。”

I love the way that people will ask me,

我特别高兴人们问我，

"How big will my photo be?"

“我的照片会有大？”

"It will be as big as your house."

“有你房子那么大。”

When we did the wall, we did the Palestinian side.

刚开始，我们贴完巴勒斯坦那一墙时，

So we arrived with just our ladders

发现我们的梯子高度不够，

and we realized that they were not high enough.

没法继续，

And so Palestinians guys say,

当时有几位巴勒斯坦小伙子说，

"Calm down. No wait. I'm going to find you a solution."

“没事儿，稍等，我来想办法。”

So he went to the Church of Nativity

随后他去了耶稣诞生大教堂

and brought back an old ladder

搬来了一座很老的梯子

that was so old that it could have seen Jesus being born.

那梯子真的老到可能见证了耶稣的诞生。

(Laughter)

（笑）

We did Face 2 Face with only six friends,

完成“面对面”计划，只有我们六个朋友，

two ladders, two brushes,

2架梯子，2把刷子，

a rented car, a camera

1辆租来的小车，1台相机，

and 20,000 square feet of paper.

还有20,000平方英尺的纸张。

We had all sorts of help

我们得到了很多人的帮助，

from all walks of life.

他们来自各行各业。

Okay, for example, that's Palestine.

比方说，在巴勒斯坦时，

We're in Ramallah right now.

这是在拉马拉（巴勒斯坦城市），

We're pasting portraits --

我们正在墙上糊照片，

so both portraits in the streets in a crowded market.

我们选的都是以色列和巴勒斯坦的闹市区。

People come around us and start asking,

人们围了过来，问，

"What are you doing here?"

”你们在干嘛？“

"Oh, we're actually doing an art project

”哦，这是个有关艺术的工程，

and we are pasting an Israeli and a Palestinian doing the same job.

我们贴的是以色列人和巴勒斯坦人的照片，他们是同一个职业的，

And those ones are actually two taxi-drivers."

这两个，都是出租车司机。“

And then there was always a silence.

紧接着的往往是沉默。

"You mean you're pasting an Israeli face --

你是说你正在贴一张以色列人的面孔，

doing a face -- right here?"

就在这里贴？”

"Well, yeah, yeah, that's part of the project."

“对啊，对啊，这是工程的一部分嘛。”

And I would always leave that moment,

接着我总是有意沉默一会儿，

and we would ask them,

然后问他们，

"So can you tell me who is who?"

“那你能分辨出哪个是巴勒斯坦人，哪个是以色列人吗？

And most of them couldn't say.

而他们大部分人都分不出来。

(Applause)

（掌声）

We even pasted on Israeli military towers,

我们甚至在以色列一座军事瞭望塔上也贴了，

and nothing happened.

什么事都没有。

When you paste an image, it's just paper and glue.

贴一张照片，只需要胶水和纸，

People can tear it, tag on it, or even pee on it --

人们可以撕了它，在上面乱涂乱画，甚至在上面尿尿，

some are a bit high for that, I agree --

是有人挺乐在其中，我知道，

but the people in the street,

但路人，

they are the curator.

他们就是这个大画廊的馆长。

The rain and the wind will take them off anyway.

照片经不起风雨洗礼，

They are not meant to stay.

他们注定是难以长存的。

But exactly four years after,

但是，四年了，

the photos, most of them are still there.

大部分照片依然在那里。

Face 2 Face demonstrated

"面对面"计划证明了

that what we thought impossible was possible --

一切皆有可能，

and, you know what, even easy.

而且，没有你想象得那么难。

We didn't push the limit;

我们并没有挑战极限，

we just showed that they were further than anyone thought.

我们只是想说，我们比大家想的，走得更远。

In the Middle East, I experienced my work

中东有些地方博物馆不多，

in places without [many] museums.

于是我在街头办“照片展”，

So the reactions in the street

这条“街头艺术之路”

were kind of interesting.

挺有意思。

So I decided to go further in this direction

我想在这条路上走得更远，

and go in places where there were zero museums.

去看看那些没有博物馆的地方。

When you go in these developing societies,

当你置身这些发展中地区时，

women are the pillars of their community,

女人是这个地区的支柱，

but the men are still the ones holding the streets.

但男人依旧掌权。

So we were inspired to create a project

由此我们希望做一个歌颂女人的项目：

where men will pay tribute to women

让男人来张贴女人的肖像照，

by posting their photos.

以此来歌颂女人。

I called that project Women Are Heroes.

我称这个计划为，女人是英雄，

When I listened to all the stories

我们当时不管走到哪里，

everywhere I went on the continents,

都能听到很多故事。

I couldn't always understand

其中发生冲突的复杂背景，

the complicated circumstances of their conflict.

我不一定都能听懂，

I just observed.

我只是观察。

Sometimes there was no words,

有时候没有只言片语，

no sentence, just tears.

只有泪水。

I just took their pictures

我只是为她们拍照，

and pasted them.

并张贴出来。

Women Are Heroes took me around the world.

”女人是英雄“让我周游各国，

Most of the places I went to,

很多我去过的地方，

I decided to go there

我决定前往，

because I've heard about it through the media.

是因为我在媒体上听到过。

So for example, in June 2008,

比方说，2008年6月，

I was watching TV in Paris,

我在巴黎，看电视，

and then I heard about this terrible thing

得知在里约热内卢，

that happened in Rio de Janeiro --

发生了那场耸人听闻的事件。

the first favela of Brazil named Providencia.

在普罗维登西亚 — 巴西第一个棚户区，

Three kids -- that was three students --

三个孩子 -- 他们是学生 --

were [detained] by the army

因为没有带相关证件

because they were not carrying their papers.

而被军方扣押。

And the army took them,

军方带走了他们，

and instead of bringing them to the police station,

但没有交给警察，

they brought them to an enemy favela

反而交给了一个敌方的棚户区，

where they get chopped into pieces.

在那里，三个孩子被剁成了肉块……

I was shocked.

我当时震惊了，

All Brazil was shocked.

整个巴西都震惊了。

I heard it was one of the most violent favelas,

我听说那是最暴力的棚户区之一，

because the largest drug cartel controls it.

由最大的毒枭控制着。

So I decided to go there.

我决定去那里。

When I arrived --

我到了以后，

I mean, I didn't have any contact with any NGO.

我没有跟任何NGO（非政府组织）联系，

There was none in place -- no association, no NGOs, nothing --

那儿什么都没有 — 没有旅行社，没有NGO，什么都没有，

no eyewitnesses.

没有目击者。

So we just walked around,

我们随便走走，

and we met a woman,

遇到了一位妇女，

and I showed her my book.

我给她看我那些集结成册的肖像照，

And she said, "You know what?

她说，”你知道吗？

We're hungry for culture.

我们太渴望文化了，

We need culture out there."

我们需要文化。”

So I went out and I started with the kids.

于是我又开始拍照，从拍孩子开始。

I just took a few photos of the kids,

我给孩子们拍了一些照片，

and the next day I came with the posters and we pasted them.

做成海报，然后第二天贴到墙上。

The day after, I came back and they were already scratched.

第三天我回去时，它们已经被刮掉了。

But that's okay.

但那无所谓，

I wanted them to feel that this art belongs to them.

因为我希望他们觉得艺术就在手中。

Then the next day, I held a meeting on the main square

第四天，我在大广场上与一些人会了面，

and some women came.

来了一些妇女，

They were all linked to the three kids that got killed.

都是三个遇害孩子的亲戚朋友，

There was the mother, the grandmother, the best friend --

有他们的母亲、祖母，还有好友。

they all wanted to shout the story.

他们都愤怒地讲述着那场谋杀。

After that day,

那天以后，

everyone in the favela gave me the green light.

那个棚户区的每个人都给我开绿灯。

I took more photos, and we started the project.

我拍了更多的照片，接着，项目开始了。

The drug lords were kind of worried

那里的毒贩头头，

about us filming in the place,

对于我们拍摄他们的地盘，有些顾虑，

so I told them, "You know what?

于是我跟他们说，

I'm not interested in filming the violence and the weapons.

我对暴力和武器没兴趣，

You see that enough in the media.

你们在媒体上已经看得够多了，

What I want to show is the incredible life and energy.

我想展现的是这里难以置信的生活，

I've been seeing it around me the last few days."

而实际上在最近几天我在周围看到了许多。”

So that's a really symbolic pasting,

这幅作品很有标志意义，

because that's the first one we did that you couldn't see from the city.

跟以往我们在其他城市所做的都不同，

And that's where the three kids got arrested,

并且这里是三个孩子被抓走的地方，

and that's the grandmother of one of them.

这张肖像，是其中一个孩子的祖母。

And on that stairs,

就在这段阶梯上，

that's where the traffickers always stand

非法交易、

and there's a lot of exchange of fire.

冲突交火，屡屡发生，

Everyone there understood the project.

但那里的每个人都理解我们所做的，

And then we pasted everywhere -- the whole hill.

后来，我们将照片贴满整座山。

(Applause)

（掌声）

What was interesting is that the media couldn't get in.

好玩的是，媒体还进不来，

I mean, you should see that.

我们当时就看着那些媒体，

They would have to film us from a really long distance by helicopter

他们在直升机上，举着长镜头拍我们，

and then have a really long lens,

那镜头真的很长，

and we would see ourselves, on TV, pasting.

因为我们还从电视上看到我们正在糊照片，

And they would put a number: "Please call this number

屏幕下方还有一个电话号码：

if you know what's going on in Providencia."

“如果你知道普罗维登西亚发生了什么，请联系我们。”

We just did a project and then left

就这样，我们完成了一个项目，然后离开，

so the media wouldn't know.

媒体一无所知，

So how can we know about the project?

但是他们要如何了解那里发生了什么呢？

So they had to go and find the women

他们得到当地询问那里的妇女，

and get an explanation from them.

从她们那里了解情况，

So you create a bridge between the media

所以你就架起了一座桥梁，

and the anonymous women.

一头是媒体，一头是那些不知名的妇女。

We kept traveling.

我们的旅程在继续，

We went to Africa, Sudan, Sierra Leone,

我们去了非洲、苏丹、塞拉利昂、

Liberia, Kenya.

利比里亚、肯尼亚。

In war-torn places like Monrovia,

在战火连年的蒙罗维亚，

people come straight to you.

人们向你径直走来，

I mean, they want to know what you're up to.

他们想知道你想干嘛。

They kept asking me, "What is the purpose of your project?

他们不停地问我，”你做这个项目的目的是什么？“

Are you an NGO? Are you the media?"

你是NGO？是媒体？“

Art. Just doing art.

艺术，就是艺术而已。

Some people question, "Why is it in black and white?

有人问，”为什么只有黑白色？

Don't you have color in France?"

你们法国没有彩色吗？”

(Laughter)

（笑）

Or they tell you, "Are these people all dead?"

或者他们会问，”这些人都死了吗？”

Some who understood the project would explain it to others.

知道这个项目的人会向另一些人解释，

And to a man who did not understand, I heard someone say,

我曾听到这样一番解释，

"You know, you've been here for a few hours

“你看，你已经在这儿待了好几个小时了，

trying to understand, discussing with your fellows.

你和朋友一起讨论，想了解这个项目，

During that time, you haven't thought about

在这段时间里，

what you're going to eat tomorrow.

你完全没有去想明天的温饱问题，

This is art."

这，就是艺术。”

I think it's people's curiosity

我想，人们的好奇心

that motivates them

促使他们

to come into the projects.

加入这个活动

And then it becomes more.

渐渐的，越来越多人加入了进来，

It becomes a desire, a need, an armor.

人们想要加入，这成了他们的需要。

On this bridge that's in Monrovia,

这是蒙罗维亚的一座桥，

ex-rebel soldiers helped us pasting a portrait

一位前反政府武装军帮我们贴了这张妇女肖像，

of a woman that might have been raped during the war.

她可能是在战争中被强暴过的。

Women are always the first ones targeted

妇女总是冲突中

during conflict.

最先受到伤害的。

This is Kibera, Kenya,

这是肯尼亚的基贝拉，

one of the largest slums of Africa.

非洲最大的贫民窟之一。

You might have seen images about the post-election violence

你们可能见过，

that happened there in 2008.

08年肯尼亚大选后的暴力事件的图片

This time we covered the roofs of the houses,

这一次，我们将照片贴在屋顶上，

but we didn't use paper,

但我们没用纸，

because paper doesn't prevent the rain

因为纸并不能挡雨，

from leaking inside the house --

水还是会漏进屋里。

vinyl does.

不过，聚乙烯能档，

Then art becomes useful.

艺术变得实用了，

So the people kept it.

所以人们一直留着。

You know what I love is, for example, when you see the biggest eye there,

你知道，有件事很令我开心，瞧，很多大眼睛，

there are so [many] houses inside.

那下面其实有很多房子，

And I went there a few months ago --

我几个月前去那里时，

photos are still there -- and it was missing a piece of the eye.

那些大眼睛依然在，但其中有一小块消失了，

So I asked the people what happened.

我问当地人怎么回事，

"Oh, that guy just moved."

“奥，他家搬走了。”

(Laughter)

（笑）

When the roofs were covered, a woman said as a joke,

当那些照片在屋顶铺好时，有位妇女开玩笑说，

"Now God can see me."

“现在上帝能看到我了。”

When you look at Kibera now,

现在，当你看着基贝拉，

they look back.

他们也看着你。

Okay, India.

好，再说印度。

Before I start that, just so you know,

在介绍之前，我想说明一点，

each time we go to a place, we don't have authorization,

每次我们到一个地方，都不是通过旅行社的，

so we set up like commandos --

我们就像游击队，

we're a group of friends who arrive there,

一群人，到那里，

and we try to paste on the walls.

然后想在墙上贴照片，

But there are places where you just can't paste on a wall.

但有些地区，是不允许你在墙上随意张贴的，

In India it was just impossible to paste.

比方说印度，就不行。

I heard culturally and because of the law,

我知道，有文化和法律上的原因，

they would just arrest us at the first pasting.

我们一贴就会被捕，

So we decided to paste white,

所以我们决定糊白纸，

white on the walls.

把墙糊白了。

So imagine white guys pasting white papers.

想象一下，白人糊白墙的景象，

So people would come to us and ask us,

人们纷纷围拢过来，问道，

"Hey, what are you up to?"

“嗨，你们在干嘛？”

"Oh, you know, we're just doing art." "Art?"

“噢，我们在搞艺术。“ ”艺术？“

Of course, they were confused.

当然，他们被搞糊涂了。

But you know how India has a lot of dust in the streets,

但是，大家都知道，印度街头灰尘满天，

and the more dust you would have

越多灰尘

going up in the air,

飞扬空中，

on the white paper you can almost see,

就越多灰尘飞扬到墙上，

but there is this sticky part

而墙上有些部分是有黏性的，

like when you reverse a sticker.

就像翻过来的黏纸，

So the more dust you have, the more it will reveal the photo.

所以，灰尘越多，墙上的照片就越加明显。

So we could just walk in the street during the next days

所以接下来几天，我们可以悠然地走在街上，

and the photos would get revealed by themselves.

看着那些照片显现出来。

(Applause)

（掌声）

Thank you.

谢谢

So we didn't get caught this time.

所以那次我们没被抓

Each project -- that's a film

每个项目，都是来自电影

from Women Are Heroes.

《女人是英雄》

(Music)

（音乐）

Okay.

OK

For each project we do

我们所有行动，

a film.

构成了一部电影，

And most of what you see -- that's a trailer from "Women Are Heroes" --

大家现在看到的，来自《女人是英雄》的预告片，

its images, photography,

这些画面，摄影，

taken one after the other.

都是一张张拍下来的。

And the photos kept traveling even without us.

照片不断在传播，无论有没有我们。

(Laughter)

（笑声）

(Applause)

（掌声）

Hopefully, you'll see the film,

可能的话，你们将会看到电影，

and you'll understand the scope of the project

你们会了解这个行动，

and what the people felt when they saw those photos.

你们会了解人们看到照片时的感受。

Because that's a big part of it. There's layers behind each photo.

人们的感受，是很重要的一部分，每一张照片都有自己的背景，

Behind each image is a story.

每一个画面背后，都是一个故事。

Women Are Heroes created a new dynamic

”女人是英雄“给那些社区

in each of the communities,

注入了新的活力，

and the women kept that dynamic after we left.

我们离开后，是那里的女人维系了这份活力。

For example, we did books -- not for sale --

比方说，我们出书 -- 非卖品 --

that all the community would get.

整个社区都能免费拿到，

But to get it, they would have to [get] it signed by one of the women.

但前提是，有女人签字。

We did that in most of the places.

我们在很多地方都这么做，

We go back regularly.

我们会定期回去，

And so in Providencia, for example, in the favela,

比方说在普罗维登西亚棚户区，

we have a cultural center running there.

我们有运作的组织，

In Kibera, each year we cover more roofs.

在基贝拉，我们每年会给更多屋顶铺上照片，

Because of course, when we left, the people who were just at the edge of the project

因为每次铺完离开时，刚好没铺到的那一家总会问，

said, "Hey, what about my roof?"

”嗨，给我家屋顶也铺一下吧？“

So we decided to come the year after

所以我们打算下一年再去，

and keep doing the project.

接着铺下去。

A really important point for me

对我来说，有一点很重要，

is that I don't use any brand or corporate sponsors.

我们不用任何品牌或公司赞助商，

So I have no responsibility

所以不对任何人负责，

to anyone but myself

除了对自己，

and the subjects.

对被拍摄者负责。

(Applause)

（掌声）

And that is for me

对我来说，

one of the more important things in the work.

这个原则对我的工作很重要。

I think, today,

今天，我相信，

as important as the result is the way you do things.

做事的过程跟结果一样重要。

And that has always been a central part of the work.

这一向是工作的一部分。

And what's interesting is that fine line that I have

有趣的是，我所把握的图片和广告之间的

with images and advertising.

那点细微的区别。

We just did some pasting in Los Angeles

前几周，我们刚在洛杉矶做了一些张贴，

on another project in the last weeks.

是另一个项目。

And I was even invited to cover the MOCA museum.

我甚至受邀为洛杉矶现代艺术美术馆做张贴。

But yesterday the city called them and said,

但是昨天他们打来电话说，

"Look, you're going to have to tear it down.

”我们得把那些照片揭掉，

Because this can be taken for advertising,

因为会被当成广告，

and because of the law,

而且因为法律原因，

it has to be taken down."

它们必须被撤掉。”

But tell me, advertising for what?

可是请问，我在为什么做广告呢？

The people I photograph

被我拍下的人们，

were proud to participate in the project

他们为自己参与到这个行动感到自豪，

and to have their photo in the community.

为他们的照片能贴在社区感到自豪，

But they asked me for a promise basically.

但他们只向我提了一个基本的要求，

They asked me, "Please, make our story travel with you."

他们要求，”请让我们的故事跟你一起旅行。“

So I did. That's Paris.

我承诺了，并且做到了。看，那是巴黎。

That's Rio.

那是里约热内卢。

In each place, we built exhibitions with a story, and the story traveled.

我们各地的展览，都有各自的故事，所以，故事在旅行。

You understand the full scope of the project.

大家看到的是这个行动的全貌。

That's London.

那是伦敦，

New York.

纽约，

And today, they are with you in Long Beach.

今天，在这里——长滩，它们在你们身边。

All right, recently I started a public art project

好，最近，在我着手开始的一个公共艺术展中，

where I don't use my artwork anymore.

我不再使用自己的作品，

I use Man Ray, Helen Levitt,

我用曼·雷、海伦·莱维特、

Giacomelli, other people's artwork.

贾科梅利，和其他人的作品。

It doesn't matter today if it's your photo or not.

现在用谁的摄影作品并不是重点，

The importance is what you do

重点是你用这些

with the images,

照片做什么，

the statement it makes where it's pasted.

贴在哪里，代表的是一种宣言。

So for example, I pasted the photo of the minaret

比方说，我把伊斯兰宣礼塔的照片，

in Switzerland

贴在瑞士，

a few weeks after they voted the law forbidding minarets in the country.

而就在几个星期前，他们刚刚通过禁令——国内禁止宣礼塔。

(Applause)

（掌声）

This image of three men wearing gas masks

这幅照片，是三个戴着防毒面罩的人，

was taken in Chernobyl originally,

最先摄于切尔诺贝利，

and I pasted it in Southern Italy,

我贴在意大利南部，

where the mafia sometimes bury the garbage under the ground.

在那里，黑手党肆意填埋垃圾。

In some ways, art can change the world.

某种程度上说，艺术能够改变世界。

Art is not supposed to change the world,

艺术本不是用来改变世界的，

to change practical things,

不是用来改变物质的，

but to change perceptions.

但是艺术能改变精神，

Art can change

艺术可以改变

the way we see the world.

我们观察世界的角度。

Art can create an analogy.

艺术能让人产生共鸣和联想，

Actually the fact that art cannot change things

其实，艺术不能改变事物的这一属性，

makes it a neutral place

让它恰恰能以一个中立的立场

for exchanges and discussions,

介入各种沟通与对话，

and then enables you to change the world.

以这样一种方式，艺术在改变世界。

When I do my work,

当我做这个活动时，

I have two kinds of reactions.

人们会有两种反应，

People say, "Oh, why don't you go in Iraq or Afghanistan.

有人说，”哦，你怎么不去伊拉克或者阿富汗啊，

They would be really useful."

这会对他们特别有用。“

Or, "How can we help?"

另一种反应是，”我能做些什么。“

I presume that you belong to the second category,

我想在座各位属于后者，

and that's good,

非常好，

because for that project,

因为为了这个项目，

I'm going to ask you to take the photos

我将会要求你们拍下照片，

and paste them.

然后张贴出来。

So now my wish is:

所以我的心愿是：

(mock drum roll)

（模仿打鼓声）

(Laughter)

（笑）

I wish for you to stand up

我希望你们能够站出来

for what you care about

为你所在乎的东西

by participating in a global art project,

加入这个全球性的艺术工程，

and together we'll turn the world inside out.

让我们一起，让世界非同凡响。

And this starts right now.

这一行动已经开始，

Yes, everyone in the room.

是的，各位现场的，

Everyone watching.

各位电视机前的，

I wanted that wish

我希望这场行动，

to actually start now.

即刻启动。

So a subject you're passionate about, a person who you want to tell their story

为你所热爱的人，讲出他们的故事，拍下他们的照片，

or even your own photos --

或者你自己的照片，

tell me what you stand for.

告诉我你相信什么，支持什么。

Take the photos, the portraits,

拍下照片，面部特写，

upload it -- I'll give you all the details --

然后上传——我会给出所有细节，

and I'll send you back your poster. Join by groups

我会将海报寄给你。还可以团体报名，

and reveal things to the world.

告诉世界你们的故事。

The full data is on the website --

活动所有内容都在我们的网站上：

insideoutproject.net --

insideoutproject.net

that is launching today.

网站今天投入使用，

What we see changes who we are.

我们所看到的，能改变我们的人生，

When we act together,

让我们一起行动，

the whole thing is much more than the sum of the parts.

众人齐心，其力断金。

So I hope that, together, we'll create something

所以我希望，大家一起行动，

that the world will remember.

让世界铭记。

And this starts right now and depends on you.

活动已经开始，主动掌握在你手中。

Thank you.

谢谢

(Applause)

（掌声）

Thank you.

谢谢

(Applause)

（掌声）