Use art to turn the world inside out | JR

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Prevoditelj: Tilen Pigac - EFZG Recezent: Mislav Ante Omazić - EFZG
00:15
Two weeks ago I was in my studio in Paris,
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Prije dva tjedna bio sam u svom studiju u Parizu,
00:18
and the phone rang and I heard,
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i telefon je zazvonio i čuo sam,
00:20
"Hey, JR,
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"Hej, JR,
00:22
you won the TED Prize 2011.
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osvojio si TED nagradu 2011.
00:24
You have to make a wish to save the world."
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Moraš nešto zaželjeti kako bi spasio svijet."
00:27
I was lost.
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Bio sam izgubljen.
00:29
I mean, I can't save the world. Nobody can.
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Nisam mogao spasiti svijet; nitko ne može.
00:32
The world is fucked up.
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Svijet je sjeban.
00:34
Come on, you have dictators ruling the world,
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Dajte, imate diktatore koji vladaju svijetom,
00:36
population is growing by millions,
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stanovništvo raste u milijunima,
00:38
there's no more fish in the sea,
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nema više riba u moru,
00:40
the North Pole is melting
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Sjeverni pol se otapa,
00:42
and as the last TED Prize winner said,
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i kao što je posljednji dobitnik TED nagrade rekao,
00:44
we're all becoming fat.
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svi mi postajemo debeli.
00:46
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
00:48
Except maybe French people.
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Osim možda Francuza.
00:50
Whatever.
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Svejedno.
00:52
So I called back
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Stoga sam nazvao natrag
00:54
and I told her,
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i rekao sam joj,
00:56
"Look, Amy,
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"Gledaj, Amy,
00:58
tell the TED guys I just won't show up.
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reci TED momcima da se neću pojaviti.
01:00
I can't do anything to save the world."
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Ne mogu učiniti ništa da spasim svijet."
01:02
She said, "Hey, JR,
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Ona je rekla, "Hej, JR,
01:04
your wish is not to save the world, but to change the world."
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tvoja želja nije spasiti svijet, već promijeniti svijet."
01:07
"Oh, all right."
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"O, u redu."
01:09
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
01:11
"That's cool."
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"To je cool."
01:13
I mean, technology, politics, business
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Mislim, tehnologija, politika, poslovni svijet
01:16
do change the world --
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mijenjaju svijet --
01:18
not always in a good way, but they do.
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ne uvijek na dobar način, ali mijenjaju ga.
01:20
What about art?
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A što je s umjetnošću?
01:22
Could art change the world?
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Može li umjetnost promijeniti svijet?
01:26
I started when I was 15 years old.
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Započeo sam s 15 godina.
01:28
And at that time, I was not thinking about changing the world.
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I u ono vrijeme, nisam razmišljao o mijenjanju svijeta;
01:31
I was doing graffiti --
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Radio sam grafite --
01:33
writing my name everywhere,
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pišući moje ime posvuda,
01:35
using the city as a canvas.
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koristeći grad kao platno.
01:39
I was going in the tunnels of Paris,
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Odlazio sam u tunele Pariza,
01:41
on the rooftops with my friends.
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na krovove sa svojim prijateljima.
01:44
Each trip was an excursion,
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Svako putovanje je bila ekskurzija,
01:46
was an adventure.
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bila je avantura.
01:48
It was like leaving our mark on society,
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Bilo je to kao ostavljanje našeg traga na društvu,
01:50
to say, "I was here," on the top of a building.
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da kažemo, "Bio sam ovdje," na vrhu te zgrade.
01:54
So when I found a cheap camera on the subway,
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Dakle, kada sam pronašao jeftin fotoaparat u podzemnoj,
01:57
I started documenting those adventures with my friends
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počeo sam dokumentirati te avanture sa svojim prijateljima
02:01
and gave them back as photocopies --
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i davao bi ih natrag kao fotokopije --
02:04
really small photos just that size.
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doista male fotografije upravo te veličine.
02:12
That's how, at 17 years old,
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Tako sam ih, sa 17 godina starosti,
02:14
I started pasting them.
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počeo lijepiti.
02:16
And I did my first "expo de rue,"
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I održao sam svoj prvi ulični sajam,
02:18
which means sidewalk gallery.
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što znači galerija na pločniku.
02:20
And I framed it with color
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I uokvirio sam ih u boji
02:23
so you would not confuse it with advertising.
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kako ih ne biste mogli pomiješati s oglašavanjem.
02:28
I mean, the city's the best gallery I could imagine.
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Mislim, grad je najbolja galerija koju mogu zamisliti.
02:31
I would never have to make a book and then present it to a gallery
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Nikada neću morati izraditi knjigu i zatim je prezentirati galeriji
02:34
and let them decide
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i dati im da odlučuju
02:36
if my work was nice enough to show it to people.
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je li moj rad dovoljno lijep da ga se prikazuje ljudima.
02:38
I would control it directly with the public
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Kontrolirat ću to izravno s javnosti
02:41
in the streets.
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na ulicama.
02:44
So that's Paris.
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Dakle, to je Pariz.
02:46
I would change --
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Promijenio bih --
02:48
depending on the places I would go --
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ovisno o mjestima gdje bih išao --
02:50
the title of the exhibition.
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naslov izložbe.
02:52
That's on the Champs-Elysees.
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Ovo je na Champs-Elysees.
02:54
I was quite proud of that one.
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Bio sam prilično ponosan na ovu.
02:56
Because I was just 18
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Jer mi je bilo samo 18 godina
02:58
and I was just up there on the top of the Champs-Elysees.
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i bio sam tamo gore na vrhu Champs-Elysees.
03:00
Then when the photo left,
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Zatim, kada je slika otišla,
03:02
the frame was still there.
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okvir je još uvijek bio tamo.
03:04
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
03:06
November 2005:
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Studeni 2005:
03:08
the streets are burning.
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ulice gore.
03:10
A large wave of riots
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Veliki val pobuna
03:12
had broken into the first projects of Paris.
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se probio u prvi projekt Pariza.
03:16
Everyone was glued to the TV,
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Svi su bili zalijepljeni za TV,
03:18
watching disturbing, frightening images
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gledajući uznemirujuće, zastrašujuće slike
03:22
taken from the edge of the neighborhood.
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koje su snimljene na rubovima četvrti.
03:26
I mean, these kids, without control,
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Mislim, ta djeca, bez kontrole,
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throwing Molotov cocktails,
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bacaju Molotovljeve koktele,
03:31
attacking the cops and the firemen,
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napadaju policajce i vatrogasce,
03:33
looting everything they could in the shops.
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pljačkaju sve što su mogli u trgovinama.
03:35
These were criminals, thugs, dangerous,
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To su bili kriminalci, lopovi, opasni
03:38
destroying their own environment.
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koji su slijedili svoje okruženje.
03:41
And then I saw it -- could it be possible? --
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I onda sam je ugledao -- je li to moguće? --
03:44
my photo on a wall
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moja slika na zidu
03:47
revealed by a burning car --
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otkrivena od gorućeg automobila --
03:50
a pasting I'd done a year earlier --
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slika koju sam zalijepio godinu dana ranije --
03:52
an illegal one -- still there.
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ilegalna -- još uvijek tamo.
03:55
I mean, these were the faces of my friends.
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Mislim, to su bila lica mojih prijatelja.
03:57
I know those guys.
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Znam te momke.
03:59
All of them are not angels,
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Svi oni nisu anđeli,
04:01
but they're not monsters either.
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ali nisu ni čudovišta.
04:05
So it was kind of weird to see
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Dakle, bilo je nekako čudno vidjeti
04:07
those images and those eyes stare back at me through a television.
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te slike i te oči koje gledaju u mene preko televizije.
04:11
So I went back there
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Stoga sam se vratio tamo
04:13
with a 28 mm lens.
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s 28 milimetarskim objektivom.
04:16
It was the only one I had at that time.
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Bio je to jedini koji sam imao u to vrijeme.
04:18
But with that lens,
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Ali s tim objektivom,
04:20
you have to be as close as 10 inches from the person.
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morate biti na 25 centimetara udaljenosti od te osobe.
04:23
So you can do it only with their trust.
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Dakle, možete to učiniti samo ako vam ona vjeruje.
04:26
So I took full portraits of people from Le Bosquet.
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Stoga sam napravio četiri portreta ljudi iz Le Bosquet-a.
04:30
They were making scary faces
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Radili su zastrašujuće grimase
04:32
to play the caricature of themselves.
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kako bi napravili karikature iz sebe.
04:47
And then I pasted huge posters everywhere
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I zatim sam zalijepio ogromne postere posvuda
04:50
in the bourgeois area of Paris
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u buržujskim četvrtima Pariza
04:52
with the name, age, even building number
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s imenima, dobi, čak i brojevima zgrada
04:55
of these guys.
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tih momaka.
05:04
A year later,
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Godinu dana kasnije,
05:06
the exhibition was displayed in front of the city hall of Paris.
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izložba je prikazana ispred gradske viječnice Pariza.
05:09
And we go from thug images,
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I idemo od izrade fotografija,
05:12
who've been stolen and distorted by the media,
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koje su mediji ukrali i iskrivili,
05:15
who's now proudly taking over his own image.
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do onoga koji sada s ponosom uzima svoju vlastitu sliku.
05:18
That's where I realized
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Tada sam shvatio
05:20
the power of paper and glue.
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moć papira i ljepila.
05:30
So could art change the world?
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Dakle, može li umjetnost promijeniti svijet?
05:33
A year later,
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Godinu dana kasnije,
05:35
I was listening to all the noise
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slušao sam svu tu buku
05:37
about the Middle East conflict.
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oko sukoba na Bliskom istoku.
05:39
I mean, at that time, trust me,
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Mislim, u to vrijeme, vjerujte mi,
05:41
they were only referring to the Israeli and Palestinian conflict.
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samo su naglašavali sukob između Izraela i Palestine.
05:43
So with my friend Marco,
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Dakle, s mojim prijateljom Marcom,
05:45
we decided to go there
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odlučili smo otići tamo
05:47
and see who are the real Palestinians and who are the real Israelis.
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i vidjeti tko su pravi Palestinci i tko su pravi Izraelci.
05:50
Are they so different?
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Jesu li oni toliko različiti?
05:52
When we got there, we just went in the street,
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Kada smo došli tamo, otišli smo na ulice,
05:55
started talking with people everywhere,
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počeli razgovarati s ljudima posvuda,
05:58
and we realized that things were a bit different
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i shvatili smo da su stvari pomalo drugačije
06:00
from the rhetoric we heard in the media.
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od retorike koju smo čuli u medijima.
06:03
So we decided to take portraits
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Stoga smo odlučili uzeti portrete
06:05
of Palestinians and Israelis
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Palestinaca i Izraelaca
06:07
doing the same jobs --
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kako rade iste poslove --
06:09
taxi-driver, lawyer, cooks.
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vozač taksija, odvjetnik, kuhar.
06:13
Asked them to make a face as a sign of commitment.
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Zamolili smo ih da naprave grimasu u znak predanosti.
06:16
Not a smile -- that really doesn't tell
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Ne osmijeh -- to uistinu ne pokazuje
06:18
about who you are and what you feel.
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tko si i kako se osjećaš.
06:20
They all accepted
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Svi su prihvatili
06:22
to be pasted next to the other.
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da ih se zalijepi jedan pored drugoga.
06:25
I decided to paste
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Odlučio sam zalijepiti
06:27
in eight Israeli and Palestinian cities
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u osam Izraelskih i Palestinskih gradova
06:31
and on both sides of the wall.
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i s obje strane zida.
06:34
We launched the biggest illegal art exhibition ever.
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Lansirali smo najveću ilegalnu umjetničku izložbu ikad.
06:37
We called the project Face 2 Face.
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Nazvali smo projekt Face 2 Face (Licem u lice).
06:40
The experts said, "No way.
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Stručnjaci su rekli, "Nema šanse.
06:43
The people will not accept.
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Ljudi to neće prihvatiti.
06:46
The army will shoot you, and Hamas will kidnap you."
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Vojska će vas upucati, a Hamas će vas oteti."
06:48
We said, "Okay, let's try and push as far as we can."
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Rekli smo, "U redu, probajmo i pogurnimo to koliko god možemo."
06:52
I love the way that people will ask me,
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Volim kada me ljudi pitaju,
06:54
"How big will my photo be?"
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"Kako velika će biti moja slika?"
06:56
"It will be as big as your house."
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"Biti će velika kao i vaša kuća."
06:59
When we did the wall, we did the Palestinian side.
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Kada smo radili na zidu, napravili smo Palestinsku stranu.
07:02
So we arrived with just our ladders
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Stoga smo stigli samo s našim ljestvama
07:04
and we realized that they were not high enough.
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i shvatili smo da nisu dovoljno visoke.
07:06
And so Palestinians guys say,
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I tako su Palestinci rekli,
07:08
"Calm down. No wait. I'm going to find you a solution."
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"Smirite se. Ne, čekajte. Pronaći ću vam rješenje."
07:11
So he went to the Church of Nativity
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Stoga je otišao u Crkvu Gospinog rođenja
07:14
and brought back an old ladder
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i donio je sa sobom stare ljestve
07:16
that was so old that it could have seen Jesus being born.
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koje su bile toliko stare da je moguće da su doživjele rođenje Isusa.
07:19
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
07:21
We did Face 2 Face with only six friends,
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Napravili smo Licem u Lice sa samo šest prijatelja,
07:24
two ladders, two brushes,
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dviju ljestava, dva kista,
07:27
a rented car, a camera
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unajmljenim automobilom, fotoaparatom
07:29
and 20,000 square feet of paper.
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i 1.858 četvornih metara papira.
07:32
We had all sorts of help
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Pružena nam je sva vrsta pomoći
07:34
from all walks of life.
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iz različitih dijelova života.
07:39
Okay, for example, that's Palestine.
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U redu, na primjer, to je Palestina.
07:41
We're in Ramallah right now.
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Upravo sada smo u Ramallahu.
07:43
We're pasting portraits --
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Lijepimo portrete --
07:45
so both portraits in the streets in a crowded market.
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dakle, portrete i na ulicama i na prenatrpanoj tržnici.
07:47
People come around us and start asking,
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Ljudi se okupe oko nas i počinju pitati,
07:50
"What are you doing here?"
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"Što radite ovdje?"
07:52
"Oh, we're actually doing an art project
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"O, mi zapravo radimo umjetnički projekt
07:54
and we are pasting an Israeli and a Palestinian doing the same job.
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i postavljamo Izraelce i Palestince koji rade isti posao.
07:57
And those ones are actually two taxi-drivers."
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A ovo ovdje su zapravo dva vozača taksija."
08:00
And then there was always a silence.
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I zatim bi uvijek bila tišina.
08:03
"You mean you're pasting an Israeli face --
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"Mislite, lijepite lice Izraelca --
08:06
doing a face -- right here?"
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upravo ovdje kako radi grimasu?"
08:08
"Well, yeah, yeah, that's part of the project."
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"Pa, da, da, to je dio projekta."
08:11
And I would always leave that moment,
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I uvijek bi ostavio sve tog trenutka,
08:13
and we would ask them,
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i pitali bismo ih,
08:15
"So can you tell me who is who?"
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"Dakle, možete li mi reći tko je tko?"
08:18
And most of them couldn't say.
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I većina njih nije mogla reći.
08:20
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
08:26
We even pasted on Israeli military towers,
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Čak smo i zalijepili na Izraelske vojne tornjeve,
08:29
and nothing happened.
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i ništa se nije dogodilo.
08:31
When you paste an image, it's just paper and glue.
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Kada zalijepite sliku, to je samo papir i ljepilo.
08:34
People can tear it, tag on it, or even pee on it --
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Ljudi ga mogu potrgati, tagirati, ili čak se i popišati na njega --
08:37
some are a bit high for that, I agree --
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neki su prilično visoko za to, slažem se --
08:39
but the people in the street,
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ali ljudi na ulici,
08:41
they are the curator.
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oni su kustosi.
08:43
The rain and the wind will take them off anyway.
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Kiša i vjetar će ih svejedno potrgati.
08:45
They are not meant to stay.
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Nisu tamo da bi ostali.
08:47
But exactly four years after,
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Ali točno četiri godine kasnije,
08:50
the photos, most of them are still there.
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slike, većina njih je još uvijek tamo.
08:53
Face 2 Face demonstrated
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Licem u Lice je dokazao
08:55
that what we thought impossible was possible --
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da ono za što smo vjerovali da je nemoguće je moguće --
08:58
and, you know what, even easy.
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i, znate što, čak je bilo i lagano.
09:00
We didn't push the limit;
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Nismo gurali granicu,
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we just showed that they were further than anyone thought.
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samo smo pokazali da smo dalje nego je itko mislio.
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In the Middle East, I experienced my work
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Na Bliskom istoku, doživio sam svoj rad
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in places without [many] museums.
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na mjestima bez [mnogo] muzeja.
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So the reactions in the street
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Dakle, ti smjerovi u ulicama
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were kind of interesting.
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su bili prilično zanimljivi.
09:16
So I decided to go further in this direction
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Stoga sam odlučio otići dalje u tom smjeru
09:18
and go in places where there were zero museums.
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i ići na mjesta gdje nema muzeja.
09:24
When you go in these developing societies,
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Kada idete u ta društva u razvoju,
09:27
women are the pillars of their community,
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žene su stupovi njihovih zajednica,
09:30
but the men are still the ones holding the streets.
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ali muškarci su još uvijek oni koji drže ulice.
09:33
So we were inspired to create a project
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Stoga smo bili inspirirani stvoriti projekt
09:36
where men will pay tribute to women
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gdje će muškarci odati poštovanje ženama
09:39
by posting their photos.
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lijepeći njihove slike.
09:42
I called that project Women Are Heroes.
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Zovem taj projekt Žene su heroji.
09:46
When I listened to all the stories
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Kada bih slušao sve priče
09:48
everywhere I went on the continents,
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gdjegod bih išao po kontinentima,
09:50
I couldn't always understand
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nisam mogao uvijek razumijeti
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the complicated circumstances of their conflict.
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komplicirane okolnosti njihovog sukoba,
09:55
I just observed.
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samo sam promatrao.
09:58
Sometimes there was no words,
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Nekada nije bilo riječi,
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no sentence, just tears.
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nije bilo rečenice, samo suze.
10:04
I just took their pictures
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Samo sam ih uslikao
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and pasted them.
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i zalijepio te fotografije.
10:11
Women Are Heroes took me around the world.
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Žene su heroji me odveo po cijelom svijetu.
10:14
Most of the places I went to,
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Većinu mjesta koja sam obišao,
10:16
I decided to go there
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odlučio sam ići tamo
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because I've heard about it through the media.
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jer sam čuo o njima kroz medije.
10:20
So for example, in June 2008,
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Dakle, na primjer, u lipnju 2008.godine,
10:22
I was watching TV in Paris,
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gledao sam TV u Parizu,
10:24
and then I heard about this terrible thing
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i tada sam čuo o toj strašnoj stvari
10:26
that happened in Rio de Janeiro --
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koja se dogodila u Rio de Janeiru.
10:28
the first favela of Brazil named Providencia.
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Prva brazilska favela zvana Providencia.
10:32
Three kids -- that was three students --
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Troje djece -- odnosno troje studenata --
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were [detained] by the army
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je vojska zadržala
10:37
because they were not carrying their papers.
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zato jer nisu sa sobom nosili svoje dokumente.
10:39
And the army took them,
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I vojska ih je uzela,
10:41
and instead of bringing them to the police station,
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i umjesto da ih vode u policijsku postaju,
10:44
they brought them to an enemy favela
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odveli su ih u neprijateljsku favelu
10:47
where they get chopped into pieces.
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gdje su bili nasjeckani na komadiće.
10:49
I was shocked.
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Bio sam šokiran.
10:51
All Brazil was shocked.
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Cijeli Brazil je bio šokiran.
10:53
I heard it was one of the most violent favelas,
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Čuo sam kako je to jedna od najnasilnijih favela,
10:56
because the largest drug cartel controls it.
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jer je kontrolira najveći kartel droge.
10:59
So I decided to go there.
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Stoga sam odlučio otići tamo.
11:01
When I arrived --
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Kada sam stigao --
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I mean, I didn't have any contact with any NGO.
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mislim, nisam imao nikakav kontakt s nikakvom nevladinom organizacijom.
11:06
There was none in place -- no association, no NGOs, nothing --
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Tamo ih nije bilo -- nema turističkog agenta, nema nevladinih organizacija, ničega --
11:09
no eyewitnesses.
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nema svjedoka.
11:11
So we just walked around,
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Stoga smo samo hodali okolo,
11:13
and we met a woman,
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i sreli smo jednu ženu,
11:15
and I showed her my book.
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i pokazao sam joj svoju knjigu.
11:17
And she said, "You know what?
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I ona je rekla, "Znate što?
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We're hungry for culture.
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Gladni smo kulture.
11:21
We need culture out there."
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Trebamo kulturu tamo vani."
11:24
So I went out and I started with the kids.
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Stoga sam otišao van i započeo sam s djecom.
11:27
I just took a few photos of the kids,
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Uzeo sam nekoliko slika djece,
11:29
and the next day I came with the posters and we pasted them.
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i idući dan sam došao s posterima i zalijepili smo ih.
11:32
The day after, I came back and they were already scratched.
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Dan poslije, došao sam natrag tamo i bili su već ogrebeni.
11:35
But that's okay.
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Ali to je u redu.
11:37
I wanted them to feel that this art belongs to them.
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Želio sam da osjećaju kako ta umjetnost pripada njima.
11:41
Then the next day, I held a meeting on the main square
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Zatim, idući dan, održao sam sastanak na glavnom trgu
11:44
and some women came.
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i nekoliko žena je došlo.
11:46
They were all linked to the three kids that got killed.
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Sve su one bile povezane s troje djece koja su ubijena.
11:51
There was the mother, the grandmother, the best friend --
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Tamo je bila majka, baka, najbolja prijateljica.
11:54
they all wanted to shout the story.
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Sve su one željele izvikati priču.
11:58
After that day,
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Nakon tog dana,
12:00
everyone in the favela gave me the green light.
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svi u faveli su mi dali zeleno svjetlo.
12:03
I took more photos, and we started the project.
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Uzeo sam više slika, i započeli smo projekt.
12:06
The drug lords were kind of worried
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Kraljevi droge su bili nekako zabrinuti
12:08
about us filming in the place,
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zato što smo tamo snimali,
12:10
so I told them, "You know what?
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pa sam im rekao, "Znate što?
12:12
I'm not interested in filming the violence and the weapons.
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Ne zanima me snimanje nasilja i oružja.
12:14
You see that enough in the media.
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Vidite dosta toga u medijima.
12:16
What I want to show is the incredible life and energy.
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Ono što ja želim prikazati je nevjerojatan život.
12:18
I've been seeing it around me the last few days."
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I zapravo ga promatram oko sebe već posljednjih nekoliko dana."
12:22
So that's a really symbolic pasting,
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Dakle, ovo je uistinu simbolično lijepljenje,
12:24
because that's the first one we did that you couldn't see from the city.
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jer ovo je prvi koji smo napravili a da ga niste mogli vidjeti iz grada.
12:27
And that's where the three kids got arrested,
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A tu su ono troje djece uhićeni,
12:30
and that's the grandmother of one of them.
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a ovo je baka jednog od njih.
12:33
And on that stairs,
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A na tim stubama,
12:35
that's where the traffickers always stand
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tu dileri uvijek stoje
12:37
and there's a lot of exchange of fire.
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i bude mnogo pucnjave.
12:39
Everyone there understood the project.
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Svi su tamo razumijeli projekt.
12:43
And then we pasted everywhere -- the whole hill.
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A zatim smo lijepili posvuda -- po cijelom brdu.
12:46
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
12:56
What was interesting is that the media couldn't get in.
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Ono što je bilo zanimljivo je da mediji nisu mogli ući unutra.
12:58
I mean, you should see that.
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Mislim, morali ste to vidjeti.
13:00
They would have to film us from a really long distance by helicopter
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Oni su nas morali snimati sa uistinu velike distance iz helikoptera
13:03
and then have a really long lens,
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i zatim imati zbilja dugačak objektiv,
13:05
and we would see ourselves, on TV, pasting.
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i mogli smo se vidjeti na TV-u kako lijepimo.
13:07
And they would put a number: "Please call this number
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A oni bi stavili broj: "Molimo nazovite ovaj broj
13:09
if you know what's going on in Providencia."
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ukoliko znate što se događa u Providencii."
13:11
We just did a project and then left
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Mi smo samo napravili projekt i otišli
13:14
so the media wouldn't know.
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tako da mediji nisu znali.
13:16
So how can we know about the project?
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Dakle, kako možemo znati o projektu?
13:18
So they had to go and find the women
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Dakle, oni su morali ići i potražiti žene
13:21
and get an explanation from them.
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i dobiti objašnjenje od njih.
13:23
So you create a bridge between the media
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Dakle, stvarate most između medija
13:26
and the anonymous women.
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i anonimnih žena.
13:29
We kept traveling.
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Nastavili smo putovati.
13:31
We went to Africa, Sudan, Sierra Leone,
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Išli smo u Afriku, Sudan, Sierra Leone,
13:33
Liberia, Kenya.
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Liberiju, Keniju.
13:35
In war-torn places like Monrovia,
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U ratom pogođenim mjestima poput Monrovije,
13:37
people come straight to you.
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ljudi dolaze ravno k vama.
13:39
I mean, they want to know what you're up to.
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Mislim, žele znati što ćete učiniti.
13:41
They kept asking me, "What is the purpose of your project?
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Stalno su me pitali, "Koja je svrha vašeg projekta?
13:44
Are you an NGO? Are you the media?"
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Jeste li nevladina organizacija? Jeste li mediji?"
13:47
Art. Just doing art.
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Umjetnost. Samo radimo umjetnost.
13:50
Some people question, "Why is it in black and white?
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Neki ljudi pitaju, "Zašto je crno i bijelo?
13:52
Don't you have color in France?"
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Nemate li vi u Francuskoj boje?"
13:54
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
13:56
Or they tell you, "Are these people all dead?"
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Ili vam kažu, "Jesu li svi ti ljudi mrtvi?"
13:58
Some who understood the project would explain it to others.
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Neki koji bi razumjeli projekt bi objasnili drugima.
14:01
And to a man who did not understand, I heard someone say,
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A čovjeku koji nije razumio, čuo sam kako je netko rekao,
14:04
"You know, you've been here for a few hours
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"Znaš, ovdje si već nekoliko sati
14:07
trying to understand, discussing with your fellows.
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pokušavajući shvatiti, razgovarati sa svojim prijateljima.
14:10
During that time, you haven't thought about
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Tijekom tog vremena, nisi pomislio o tome
14:12
what you're going to eat tomorrow.
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što ćeš jesti sutra.
14:14
This is art."
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To je umjetnost."
14:17
I think it's people's curiosity
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Mislim kako je ljudska znatiželja
14:20
that motivates them
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ono što ih motivira
14:23
to come into the projects.
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da se uključe u projekte.
14:25
And then it becomes more.
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A zatim postane više.
14:27
It becomes a desire, a need, an armor.
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Postane želja, potreba, [nejasno].
14:31
On this bridge that's in Monrovia,
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Na ovom mostu koji se nalazi u Monroviji,
14:34
ex-rebel soldiers helped us pasting a portrait
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bivši pobunjenički vojnik nam je pomogao zalijepiti portret
14:37
of a woman that might have been raped during the war.
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žene koja je moguće bila silovana tijekom rata.
14:40
Women are always the first ones targeted
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Žene su uvijek prve na udaru
14:42
during conflict.
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tijekom sukoba.
14:45
This is Kibera, Kenya,
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Ovo je Kibera, Kenija,
14:47
one of the largest slums of Africa.
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jedna od najvećih siromašnih četvrti u Africi.
14:50
You might have seen images about the post-election violence
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Možda ste vidjeli slike nasilja koje se dogodilo nakon izbora
14:53
that happened there in 2008.
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tamo 2008. godine.
14:57
This time we covered the roofs of the houses,
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Ovaj put smo prekrili krovove kuća,
14:59
but we didn't use paper,
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ali nismo koristili papir,
15:02
because paper doesn't prevent the rain
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jer papir ne sprječava kišu
15:05
from leaking inside the house --
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da pada u kuću --
15:07
vinyl does.
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vinil sprječava.
15:09
Then art becomes useful.
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Tada umjetnost postaje korisna.
15:11
So the people kept it.
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Stoga su ih ljudi sačuvali.
15:13
You know what I love is, for example, when you see the biggest eye there,
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Znate što volim, na primjer, kada tamo vidite najveće oko,
15:16
there are so [many] houses inside.
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ima toliko mnogo kuća unutra.
15:18
And I went there a few months ago --
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I otišao sam tamo prije nekoliko mjeseci --
15:20
photos are still there -- and it was missing a piece of the eye.
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slike su još uvijek tamo -- i nedostajao je komadić oka.
15:23
So I asked the people what happened.
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Stoga sam pitao ljude što se dogodilo.
15:25
"Oh, that guy just moved."
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"O, taj čovjek se preselio."
15:27
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
15:31
When the roofs were covered, a woman said as a joke,
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Kada su krovovi bili prekriveni, žene je rekla to u šali,
15:34
"Now God can see me."
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"Sada me Bog može vidjeti."
15:36
When you look at Kibera now,
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Kada sada pogledate Kiberu,
15:38
they look back.
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oni uzvraćaju pogled.
15:44
Okay, India.
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U redu, Indija.
15:46
Before I start that, just so you know,
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Prije nego počnem, tek toliko da znate,
15:48
each time we go to a place, we don't have authorization,
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svaki put kada idemo na neko mjesto, nemamo turističkog agenta,
15:50
so we set up like commandos --
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stoga se opremimo poput komandosa --
15:52
we're a group of friends who arrive there,
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mi smo grupa prijatelja koja dođe tamo,
15:54
and we try to paste on the walls.
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i pokušavamo lijepiti po zidovima.
15:56
But there are places where you just can't paste on a wall.
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Ali postoje mjesta gdje ne možete samo lijepiti po zidu.
15:59
In India it was just impossible to paste.
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U Indiji je jednostavno bilo nemoguće lijepiti.
16:02
I heard culturally and because of the law,
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Čuo sam kulturalno i zbog zakona,
16:05
they would just arrest us at the first pasting.
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oni bi nas jednostavno uhitili kod prvog lijepljenja.
16:08
So we decided to paste white,
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Stoga smo odlučili lijepiti bijelo,
16:10
white on the walls.
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bijelo po zidovima.
16:12
So imagine white guys pasting white papers.
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Dakle, zamislite bijele momke kako lijepe bijele papire.
16:14
So people would come to us and ask us,
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Ljudi bi nam prišli i pitali nas,
16:16
"Hey, what are you up to?"
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"Hej, što to radite?"
16:18
"Oh, you know, we're just doing art." "Art?"
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"O, znate, mi samo činimo umjetnost." "Umjetnost?"
16:22
Of course, they were confused.
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Naravno, bili su zbunjeni.
16:24
But you know how India has a lot of dust in the streets,
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Ali znate kako Indija ima puno prašine po ulicama,
16:27
and the more dust you would have
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i kako imate više prašine
16:29
going up in the air,
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koja se diže u zrak,
16:31
on the white paper you can almost see,
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na bijelom papiru skoro možete vidjeti,
16:34
but there is this sticky part
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kako je tamo ljepljivi dio
16:36
like when you reverse a sticker.
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poput onoga kada okrenete naljepnicu.
16:38
So the more dust you have, the more it will reveal the photo.
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Dakle, što više prašine imate, više će ona otkriti sliku.
16:41
So we could just walk in the street during the next days
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Dakle, mogli smo idućih dana samo hodati ulicom
16:44
and the photos would get revealed by themselves.
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i slike bi se otkrile same od sebe.
16:46
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
16:53
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
16:56
So we didn't get caught this time.
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Dakle, ovaj put nismo uhvaćeni.
17:01
Each project -- that's a film
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Svaki projekt, to je film
17:03
from Women Are Heroes.
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iz Žene su heroji.
17:06
(Music)
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(Glazba)
17:09
Okay.
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U redu.
17:11
For each project we do
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Za svaki projekt napravimo
17:13
a film.
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film.
17:15
And most of what you see -- that's a trailer from "Women Are Heroes" --
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I većinu onoga što vidite, ovo je kratak isječak iz "Žene su heroji" --
17:18
its images, photography,
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slike, fotografija,
17:21
taken one after the other.
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slikana jedna za drugom.
17:42
And the photos kept traveling even without us.
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I slika je čak putovala i bez nas.
18:21
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
18:23
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
18:33
Hopefully, you'll see the film,
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Nadam se kako ćete pogledati film,
18:35
and you'll understand the scope of the project
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i razumijeti ćete obuhvat projekta
18:37
and what the people felt when they saw those photos.
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i što su ljudi osjećali kada su vidjeli te fotografije.
18:39
Because that's a big part of it. There's layers behind each photo.
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Jer to je veliki dio toga. Postoje slojevi iza svake fotografije.
18:42
Behind each image is a story.
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Iza svake slike postoji priča.
18:45
Women Are Heroes created a new dynamic
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Žene su Heroji je kreirao novu dinamiku
18:47
in each of the communities,
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u svakoj od tih zajednica,
18:49
and the women kept that dynamic after we left.
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a žene su nastavile dinamiku nakon što smo otišli.
18:52
For example, we did books -- not for sale --
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Na primjer, napravili smo knjige -- ne za prodaju --
18:55
that all the community would get.
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koje će dobiti cijela zajednica.
18:57
But to get it, they would have to [get] it signed by one of the women.
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Ali da bi ih dobili, morala ih je potpisati jedna od žena.
19:01
We did that in most of the places.
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Napravili smo to na većini mjesta.
19:03
We go back regularly.
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Vraćamo se redovito.
19:05
And so in Providencia, for example, in the favela,
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I tako u Providencii, na primjer, u faveli,
19:08
we have a cultural center running there.
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imamo kontrolirani centar koji tamo vodimo.
19:10
In Kibera, each year we cover more roofs.
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U Kiberi, svake godine prekrije više krovova.
19:12
Because of course, when we left, the people who were just at the edge of the project
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Jer naravno, kada odemo, ljudi koji su bili na samom rubu projekta
19:15
said, "Hey, what about my roof?"
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kažu, "Hej, što je s mojim krovom?"
19:18
So we decided to come the year after
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Stoga smo odlučili doći godinu kasnije
19:20
and keep doing the project.
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i nastaviti s projektom.
19:23
A really important point for me
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Doista važna stvar za mene
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is that I don't use any brand or corporate sponsors.
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je da ne koristim nikakvu marku ili korporativne sponzore.
19:28
So I have no responsibility
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Stoga nemam nikakvu odgovornost
19:30
to anyone but myself
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prema nikome osim prema sebi
19:32
and the subjects.
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i predmetima.
19:34
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
19:38
And that is for me
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A to je za mene
19:40
one of the more important things in the work.
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jedna od najvažnijih stvari u poslu.
19:42
I think, today,
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Mislim, danas,
19:44
as important as the result is the way you do things.
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jednako važno kao i rezultat, je način na koji radite stvari.
19:47
And that has always been a central part of the work.
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A to je oduvijek bio određen dio posla.
19:51
And what's interesting is that fine line that I have
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A ono što je zanimljivo je ta tanka linija koju imam
19:53
with images and advertising.
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sa slikama i oglašavanjem.
19:55
We just did some pasting in Los Angeles
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Upravo smo lijepili nešto u Los Angelesu
19:57
on another project in the last weeks.
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na drugom projektu proteklih tjedana.
20:00
And I was even invited to cover the MOCA museum.
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I čak sam bio pozvan da prekrijem MOCA muzej.
20:04
But yesterday the city called them and said,
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Ali jučer ih je grad zvao i rekao,
20:06
"Look, you're going to have to tear it down.
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"Gledajte, morat ćemo to skinuti dolje.
20:08
Because this can be taken for advertising,
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Jer to se može shvatiti kao oglašavanje,
20:10
and because of the law,
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i zbog zakona,
20:12
it has to be taken down."
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mora se skinuti dolje."
20:14
But tell me, advertising for what?
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Ali recite mi, oglašavanje za što?
20:17
The people I photograph
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Ljudi koje ja fotografiram
20:19
were proud to participate in the project
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su ponosni što mogu sudjelovati u projektu
20:21
and to have their photo in the community.
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i što mogu imati svoju sliku u zajednici.
20:23
But they asked me for a promise basically.
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Ali oni su me, u osnovi, molili za obećanje.
20:25
They asked me, "Please, make our story travel with you."
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Molili su me, "Molim vas, dajte da naša priča putuje s vama."
20:29
So I did. That's Paris.
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Stoga i jesam. Ovo je Pariz.
20:32
That's Rio.
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Ovo je Rio.
20:34
In each place, we built exhibitions with a story, and the story traveled.
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U svakom mjestu, napravili smo izložbe s pričom, i priča je putovala.
20:38
You understand the full scope of the project.
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Shvaćate pun obuhvat projekta.
20:40
That's London.
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Ovo je London,
20:43
New York.
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New York.
20:45
And today, they are with you in Long Beach.
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I danas, oni su s vama u Long Beachu.
20:49
All right, recently I started a public art project
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U redu, nedavno sam započeo projekt javne umjetnosti
20:52
where I don't use my artwork anymore.
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gdje više ne koristim svoju umjetnost.
20:55
I use Man Ray, Helen Levitt,
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Koristim Man Ray, Helen Levitt,
20:58
Giacomelli, other people's artwork.
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Giacomelli, umjetnost drugih ljudi.
21:00
It doesn't matter today if it's your photo or not.
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Danas nije važno je li to vaša fotografija ili nije.
21:03
The importance is what you do
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Važnost je u onome što radite
21:05
with the images,
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s tim slikama,
21:07
the statement it makes where it's pasted.
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izjavu koju naglašava kada je zalijepljena.
21:10
So for example, I pasted the photo of the minaret
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Dakle, na primjer, zalijepio sam fotografiju minareta
21:13
in Switzerland
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u Švicarskoj
21:15
a few weeks after they voted the law forbidding minarets in the country.
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nekoliko tjedana nakon što su izglasali zakon koji zabranjuje minarete u toj zemlji.
21:19
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
21:25
This image of three men wearing gas masks
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Ova slika troje muškaraca kako nose gas maske
21:28
was taken in Chernobyl originally,
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je izvorno uslikana u Černobilu,
21:30
and I pasted it in Southern Italy,
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i zalijepljena u južnoj Italiji,
21:33
where the mafia sometimes bury the garbage under the ground.
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gdje mafija ponekad zakapa smeće ispod zemlje.
21:39
In some ways, art can change the world.
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U neku ruku, umjetnost može promijeniti svijet.
21:41
Art is not supposed to change the world,
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Umjetnost ne bi trebala promijeniti svijet,
21:43
to change practical things,
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da promijeni praktične stvari,
21:45
but to change perceptions.
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već da promijeni percepcije.
21:47
Art can change
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Umjetnost može promijeniti
21:49
the way we see the world.
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način na koji vidimo svijet.
21:51
Art can create an analogy.
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Umjetnost može stvoriti analogiju.
21:54
Actually the fact that art cannot change things
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Zapravo, činjenica da umjetnost ne može mijenjati stvari
21:57
makes it a neutral place
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je čini neutralnim mjestom
21:59
for exchanges and discussions,
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za razmjene i diskusije,
22:02
and then enables you to change the world.
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i zatim vam omogućava da promijenite svijet.
22:05
When I do my work,
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Kada radim svoj posao,
22:07
I have two kinds of reactions.
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nailazim na dvije vrste reakcija.
22:09
People say, "Oh, why don't you go in Iraq or Afghanistan.
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Ljudi kažu, "O, zašto ne odete u Irak ili Afganistan.
22:12
They would be really useful."
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Oni bi bili veoma korisni."
22:14
Or, "How can we help?"
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Ili, "Kako možemo pomoći."
22:17
I presume that you belong to the second category,
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Pretpostavljam da pripadate drugoj kategoriji,
22:20
and that's good,
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i to je u redu,
22:22
because for that project,
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jer za taj projekt,
22:24
I'm going to ask you to take the photos
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zamolit ću vas da uslikate fotografije
22:26
and paste them.
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i zalijepite ih.
22:29
So now my wish is:
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Dakle, moja želja sada je:
22:31
(mock drum roll)
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(lažni bubnjevi)
22:33
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
22:36
I wish for you to stand up
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Želim da se zauzmete
22:39
for what you care about
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za ono do čega vam je stalo
22:42
by participating in a global art project,
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tako da sudjelujete u globalnom umjetničkom projektu,
22:45
and together we'll turn the world inside out.
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i zajedno ćemo preokrenuti svijet iznutra prema vn.
22:51
And this starts right now.
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A to počinje upravo sada.
22:53
Yes, everyone in the room.
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Da, svi u prostoriji.
22:55
Everyone watching.
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Svi koji gledaju.
22:58
I wanted that wish
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Želim da ta želja
23:00
to actually start now.
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zapravo počne sada.
23:02
So a subject you're passionate about, a person who you want to tell their story
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Dakle, predmet prema kojem gajite strast, osoba čiju priču želite ispričati,
23:05
or even your own photos --
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ili čak svoje vlastite fotografije --
23:07
tell me what you stand for.
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recite mi za što se zauzimate.
23:09
Take the photos, the portraits,
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Napravite slike, portrete,
23:11
upload it -- I'll give you all the details --
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stavite ih na stranicu -- dati ću vam sve detalje --
23:14
and I'll send you back your poster. Join by groups
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i ja ću vam poslati natrag vaš poster. Udružite se u grupe
23:17
and reveal things to the world.
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i otkrijte stvari svijetu.
23:20
The full data is on the website --
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Svi podaci su na stranici:
23:23
insideoutproject.net --
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insideoutproject.net
23:25
that is launching today.
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koja počinje s radom danas.
23:28
What we see changes who we are.
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Ono što vidimo mijenja ono tko jesmo.
23:30
When we act together,
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Kada djelujemo zajedno,
23:32
the whole thing is much more than the sum of the parts.
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cijela stvar je puno više od zbroja njenih dijelova.
23:36
So I hope that, together, we'll create something
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Stog se nadam da, zajedno, ćemo stvoriti nešto
23:38
that the world will remember.
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što će svijet pamtiti.
23:40
And this starts right now and depends on you.
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A to počinje upravo sada i ovisi o vama.
23:43
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
23:45
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
23:52
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
23:54
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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