Use art to turn the world inside out | JR

775,524 views ・ 2011-03-05

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Translator: Yi Peng Reviewer: Shelley Krishna Tsang
00:15
Two weeks ago I was in my studio in Paris,
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兩個星期之前,我響巴黎工作室
00:18
and the phone rang and I heard,
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聽到電話響,話
00:20
"Hey, JR,
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"喂 JR...
00:22
you won the TED Prize 2011.
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...你贏左TED2011大獎...
00:24
You have to make a wish to save the world."
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...要許個願拯救地球喔。"
00:27
I was lost.
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我即時呆左
00:29
I mean, I can't save the world. Nobody can.
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我唔識拯救世界呀,呢件事無人做得到
00:32
The world is fucked up.
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宜家個世界真系亂到阿媽都唔認得。
00:34
Come on, you have dictators ruling the world,
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你睇,呢個跟本就系獨裁者嘅天下
00:36
population is growing by millions,
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人口成百萬咁遞增
00:38
there's no more fish in the sea,
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海裏面嘅魚無曬
00:40
the North Pole is melting
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北極啲冰都融埋
00:42
and as the last TED Prize winner said,
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先頭嘅TED獲獎得主仲話
00:44
we're all becoming fat.
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我地會越來越肥添。
00:46
(Laughter)
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(笑)
00:48
Except maybe French people.
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法國人會唔會例外呢。
00:50
Whatever.
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是但啦。
00:52
So I called back
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跟住我打返電話俾佢
00:54
and I told her,
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同佢講
00:56
"Look, Amy,
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“嗱,Amy,
00:58
tell the TED guys I just won't show up.
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你話俾TED班人知,我唔出現啦
01:00
I can't do anything to save the world."
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我救唔到地球呀。“
01:02
She said, "Hey, JR,
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佢就話,”JR呀,
01:04
your wish is not to save the world, but to change the world."
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你嘅願望又唔系拯救世界,系改變佢姐。"
01:07
"Oh, all right."
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"哦,咁啊"
01:09
(Laughter)
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(笑)
01:11
"That's cool."
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”甘好啦。“
01:13
I mean, technology, politics, business
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其實我發現科技、政治、商業
01:16
do change the world --
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都響度改變世界--
01:18
not always in a good way, but they do.
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結果唔一定理想,但系一定有改變。
01:20
What about art?
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咁藝術呢?
01:22
Could art change the world?
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藝術系咪都可以改變世界?
01:26
I started when I was 15 years old.
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我從15歲開始搞創作
01:28
And at that time, I was not thinking about changing the world.
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當時無唸住要改變世界
01:31
I was doing graffiti --
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就系玩開graffiti街頭噴畫--
01:33
writing my name everywhere,
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到處留名
01:35
using the city as a canvas.
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將城市當成畫布
01:39
I was going in the tunnels of Paris,
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我會鑽入巴黎的隧道
01:41
on the rooftops with my friends.
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又同朋友爬上樓頂
01:44
Each trip was an excursion,
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每次出去都好盡興
01:46
was an adventure.
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好刺激
01:48
It was like leaving our mark on society,
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感覺終於響呢個社會留底屬於我地自己嘅印記
01:50
to say, "I was here," on the top of a building.
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響樓頂記低“本人到此一遊”
01:54
So when I found a cheap camera on the subway,
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有一次我響地鐵執到部簡易相機
01:57
I started documenting those adventures with my friends
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之後就開始拍低我同朋友嘅歷險記
02:01
and gave them back as photocopies --
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然後將相片畀返佢地
02:04
really small photos just that size.
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啲相好細張,得咁大
02:12
That's how, at 17 years old,
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然之後,17歲嘅我就咁
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I started pasting them.
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開始左我嘅貼相生涯
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And I did my first "expo de rue,"
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搞左自己的第一個expo de rue
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which means sidewalk gallery.
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無非系一個"街頭影展”
02:20
And I framed it with color
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我響每一張相片周圍涂左彩色框
02:23
so you would not confuse it with advertising.
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路人就唔會以為系廣告
02:28
I mean, the city's the best gallery I could imagine.
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我發現城市真系一個最佳畫廊
02:31
I would never have to make a book and then present it to a gallery
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無必要出書 更加無必要搵畫廊
02:34
and let them decide
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請專家鑒定
02:36
if my work was nice enough to show it to people.
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作品系咪夠好 夠吸引
02:38
I would control it directly with the public
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響大街度
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in the streets.
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可以更加直接
02:44
So that's Paris.
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呢張系巴黎
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I would change --
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我會視乎
02:48
depending on the places I would go --
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展出地點
02:50
the title of the exhibition.
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調整主題。
02:52
That's on the Champs-Elysees.
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呢張系香榭麗舍大街
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I was quite proud of that one.
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呢張系我嘅得意之作
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Because I was just 18
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因為嗰年我先18歲
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and I was just up there on the top of the Champs-Elysees.
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就已經佔領香榭麗舍嘅頂峰。
03:00
Then when the photo left,
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後來張相唔見左
03:02
the frame was still there.
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相框仲留響度
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(Laughter)
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(笑)
03:06
November 2005:
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2005年11月:
03:08
the streets are burning.
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火燒街頭
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A large wave of riots
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大規模暴亂
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had broken into the first projects of Paris.
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響巴黎最舊的住宅區爆發
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Everyone was glued to the TV,
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人人睇電視追蹤
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watching disturbing, frightening images
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見到從住宅區周邊傳返來嘅影像
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taken from the edge of the neighborhood.
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畫面令人擔憂又驚恐
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I mean, these kids, without control,
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呢啲細路無人管教
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throwing Molotov cocktails,
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起勢掟汽油炸彈
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attacking the cops and the firemen,
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攻擊警察同消防隊
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looting everything they could in the shops.
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掃蕩商舖
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These were criminals, thugs, dangerous,
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呢班罪犯、歹徒同危險分子
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destroying their own environment.
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用盡手段同環境抗爭
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And then I saw it -- could it be possible? --
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忽然間我見到一樣嘢--有無可能啊?--
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my photo on a wall
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畫面嘅牆上有一幅我貼嘅相
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revealed by a burning car --
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就響嗰部燒著嘅汽車後面--
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a pasting I'd done a year earlier --
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我一年前貼嘅--
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an illegal one -- still there.
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呢張非法張貼--仲響度
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I mean, these were the faces of my friends.
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相片裏面系我朋友嘅面孔
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I know those guys.
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我瞭解呢啲人
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All of them are not angels,
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佢哋都唔系天使
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but they're not monsters either.
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但亦唔系惡魔
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So it was kind of weird to see
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響電視度睇見啲眼望住自己
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those images and those eyes stare back at me through a television.
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感覺有些少怪
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So I went back there
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於是我返返去
04:13
with a 28 mm lens.
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帶埋部28mm焦距相機
04:16
It was the only one I had at that time.
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亦系我當時唯一一部相機
04:18
But with that lens,
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用佢影相
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you have to be as close as 10 inches from the person.
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要靠埋個人物 離得25公分
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So you can do it only with their trust.
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所以攝影師一定要俾人信得過至影到相
04:26
So I took full portraits of people from Le Bosquet.
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我影左四張相,主角都系Le Bosquet波士基人
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They were making scary faces
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佢地扮怪面嚇人
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to play the caricature of themselves.
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用搞笑誇張嘅方式表現自我
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And then I pasted huge posters everywhere
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跟住我將啲相整成巨幅海報
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in the bourgeois area of Paris
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貼勻巴黎嘅bourgeois購物區
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with the name, age, even building number
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上面寫埋人物嘅姓名,年齡
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of these guys.
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連屋企嘅門牌號都有埋
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A year later,
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一年之後
05:06
the exhibition was displayed in front of the city hall of Paris.
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呢輯相片響巴黎市政廳前展出
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And we go from thug images,
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對比起以前我地睇到嗰啲
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who've been stolen and distorted by the media,
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經過媒體偷拍、扭曲嘅相
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who's now proudly taking over his own image.
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嗰日展出嘅一張張自豪嘅面龐
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That's where I realized
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響一刻令我意識到
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the power of paper and glue.
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紙張同漿糊嘅力量
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So could art change the world?
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藝術系咪都可以改變世界呢?
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A year later,
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時隔一年
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I was listening to all the noise
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我聽講中東地區衝突連連
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about the Middle East conflict.
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傳黎各種聲音
05:39
I mean, at that time, trust me,
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當時,我可以負責任咁講
05:41
they were only referring to the Israeli and Palestinian conflict.
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所有話題都指向以色列同巴勒斯坦
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So with my friend Marco,
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所以我同朋友Marco
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we decided to go there
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決定去現場
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and see who are the real Palestinians and who are the real Israelis.
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見識一下真正的巴勒斯坦人同真正的以色列人
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Are they so different?
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佢地之間差別真系咁大咩?
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When we got there, we just went in the street,
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落腳之後我地出街
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started talking with people everywhere,
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周圍同人傾計
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and we realized that things were a bit different
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發現事實同媒體嘅聲音
06:00
from the rhetoric we heard in the media.
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有些少差別
06:03
So we decided to take portraits
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於是我地又決定影頭像
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of Palestinians and Israelis
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主角系從事同樣職業嘅
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doing the same jobs --
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巴勒斯坦人同以色列人 --
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taxi-driver, lawyer, cooks.
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有的士司機、律師、同埋有廚師 --
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Asked them to make a face as a sign of commitment.
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為表誠意 我地請佢地扮鬼
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Not a smile -- that really doesn't tell
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唔系笑--
06:18
about who you are and what you feel.
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因為笑面無辦法傳達人嘅心理狀態同感受
06:20
They all accepted
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佢地都接受
06:22
to be pasted next to the other.
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將自己嘅相同對方嘅貼埋一齊
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I decided to paste
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我決定去8個以色列
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in eight Israeli and Palestinian cities
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同巴勒斯坦城市貼相
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and on both sides of the wall.
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貼系牆嘅兩邊
06:34
We launched the biggest illegal art exhibition ever.
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我哋籌辦左有史以來最大型的非法藝術展
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We called the project Face 2 Face.
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個名稱系:面對面
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The experts said, "No way.
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專家話 ”無可能[做到]...
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The people will not accept.
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民眾唔會接受..."
06:46
The army will shoot you, and Hamas will kidnap you."
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"...軍隊會開槍打你,同埋哈馬斯會綁架你哋。“
06:48
We said, "Okay, let's try and push as far as we can."
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我哋就話 ”咁 我地試下可以行幾遠啦“
06:52
I love the way that people will ask me,
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我最鍾意人哋問我
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"How big will my photo be?"
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“到時我張相有幾大架?”
06:56
"It will be as big as your house."
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”會同你間屋一樣咁大呀“
06:59
When we did the wall, we did the Palestinian side.
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貼相上牆嘅時候,我地響巴勒斯坦
07:02
So we arrived with just our ladders
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帶埋條梯到現場,
07:04
and we realized that they were not high enough.
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先發現條梯唔夠高。
07:06
And so Palestinians guys say,
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於是幾個巴勒斯坦人話,
07:08
"Calm down. No wait. I'm going to find you a solution."
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“唔好心急,等陣。我幫你搞掂佢”
07:11
So he went to the Church of Nativity
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佢跑到一個基督教堂
07:14
and brought back an old ladder
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扛左一條舊梯返黎
07:16
that was so old that it could have seen Jesus being born.
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條梯真系舊到不得了,我估可能系耶穌時期傳落黎嘅
07:19
(Laughter)
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(笑)
07:21
We did Face 2 Face with only six friends,
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系6個朋友嘅幫助之下,我哋完成左”面對面“
07:24
two ladders, two brushes,
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兩條梯,兩把刷
07:27
a rented car, a camera
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一架租返黎嘅車,一部相機
07:29
and 20,000 square feet of paper.
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仲有20000平方英寸嘅纸
07:32
We had all sorts of help
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我哋得到各行各業嘅人
07:34
from all walks of life.
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各式各樣嘅幫助。
07:39
Okay, for example, that's Palestine.
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就好似呢張巴勒斯坦相甘,
07:41
We're in Ramallah right now.
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我哋當時系拉馬拉
07:43
We're pasting portraits --
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貼緊相 --
07:45
so both portraits in the streets in a crowded market.
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兩張相都貼系熱鬧嘅市場
07:47
People come around us and start asking,
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啲人圍住我哋,問我哋
07:50
"What are you doing here?"
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”你哋系到做緊咩呀?“
07:52
"Oh, we're actually doing an art project
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“哦,我哋搞緊藝術呀
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and we are pasting an Israeli and a Palestinian doing the same job.
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我哋宜家將做同一個工作嘅以色列人同巴勒斯坦人嘅相貼埋一齊。
07:57
And those ones are actually two taxi-drivers."
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呢兩個就系的士司機喇。”
08:00
And then there was always a silence.
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呢個時候啲人就會驚左。
08:03
"You mean you're pasting an Israeli face --
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“你嘅意思系你系度 --
08:06
doing a face -- right here?"
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貼緊以色列人嘅相?"
08:08
"Well, yeah, yeah, that's part of the project."
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“哦,系呀,系呀,系呢個藝術嘅一部分黎架。”
08:11
And I would always leave that moment,
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呢個時候,我會俾佢地睇一陣,
08:13
and we would ask them,
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然後問佢地,
08:15
"So can you tell me who is who?"
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“你可唔可以話我聽邊個打邊個呀?”
08:18
And most of them couldn't say.
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而佢地大部分都講唔出。
08:20
(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
08:26
We even pasted on Israeli military towers,
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我哋甚至系以色列嘅軍事防禦塔到貼左相,
08:29
and nothing happened.
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咩都無發生。
08:31
When you paste an image, it's just paper and glue.
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當你貼一張相嘅時候,佢只不過系紙同漿糊。
08:34
People can tear it, tag on it, or even pee on it --
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啲人可以搣左佢,貼野系上面,甚至可以系上面尿尿
08:37
some are a bit high for that, I agree --
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不過有啲太高啦,我諗應該尿唔到 --
08:39
but the people in the street,
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但系街上面嘅人,
08:41
they are the curator.
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佢哋就系策展人。
08:43
The rain and the wind will take them off anyway.
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遇到落雨打風,啲相遲早會唔見
08:45
They are not meant to stay.
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我本來就無打算要佢哋留系到。
08:47
But exactly four years after,
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不過正正4年之後,
08:50
the photos, most of them are still there.
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果啲相大多數仲系到。
08:53
Face 2 Face demonstrated
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”面對面“證實左
08:55
that what we thought impossible was possible --
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有啲我哋覺得唔可能嘅事系可能發生嘅 --
08:58
and, you know what, even easy.
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而且,你知唔知呀?好易架咋。
09:00
We didn't push the limit;
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我哋無挑戰界限,
09:02
we just showed that they were further than anyone thought.
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我哋只不過系證明我哋做到嘅野比啲人諗嘅遠。
09:07
In the Middle East, I experienced my work
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系中東,我系[好多]博物館
09:09
in places without [many] museums.
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展出我嘅作品。
09:11
So the reactions in the street
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系街展覽呢個方向
09:14
were kind of interesting.
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有啲搞笑。
09:16
So I decided to go further in this direction
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於是我決定繼續向呢個方向發展
09:18
and go in places where there were zero museums.
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去啲無博物館嘅地方。
09:24
When you go in these developing societies,
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當你行入呢啲發展中嘅社會,
09:27
women are the pillars of their community,
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你會發現女人系佢地社區嘅支柱,
09:30
but the men are still the ones holding the streets.
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不過男人仲系條街嘅話事人。
09:33
So we were inspired to create a project
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於是我哋啟發左要創作一個項目
09:36
where men will pay tribute to women
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等啲男人通過啲相
09:39
by posting their photos.
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向女人致敬。
09:42
I called that project Women Are Heroes.
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我叫呢個項目做《婦女系英雄》
09:46
When I listened to all the stories
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當我聽到果啲故事嘅時候
09:48
everywhere I went on the continents,
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系任何我去過嘅地方,
09:50
I couldn't always understand
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我唔系次次都明
09:52
the complicated circumstances of their conflict.
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衝突嘅複雜情況,
09:55
I just observed.
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我淨系觀察。
09:58
Sometimes there was no words,
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有時候系無文字,
10:01
no sentence, just tears.
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無句子,只有眼淚。
10:04
I just took their pictures
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我影左佢地嘅相
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and pasted them.
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貼左出黎。
10:11
Women Are Heroes took me around the world.
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《婦女系英雄》帶我走遍世界。
10:14
Most of the places I went to,
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我去左好多地方。
10:16
I decided to go there
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我決定去果度
10:18
because I've heard about it through the media.
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系因為我系媒體上面聽過。
10:20
So for example, in June 2008,
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好似2008年6月
10:22
I was watching TV in Paris,
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我系巴黎睇電視,
10:24
and then I heard about this terrible thing
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聽到系
10:26
that happened in Rio de Janeiro --
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里約熱內盧發生嘅慘案。
10:28
the first favela of Brazil named Providencia.
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巴西嘅第一個貧民窟叫做Providencia
10:32
Three kids -- that was three students --
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三個細路,系三個學生黎嘅,
10:35
were [detained] by the army
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被軍隊扣押
10:37
because they were not carrying their papers.
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因為佢地無帶身份證明
10:39
And the army took them,
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軍隊抓住佢地
10:41
and instead of bringing them to the police station,
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無將佢地送去警局,
10:44
they brought them to an enemy favela
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反而將佢地送左去一個同佢地有仇嘅貧民窟
10:47
where they get chopped into pieces.
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於是佢地俾人斬到一碌碌。
10:49
I was shocked.
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我好震驚。
10:51
All Brazil was shocked.
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所有巴西人都好震驚。
10:53
I heard it was one of the most violent favelas,
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我聽講呢個系最暴力嘅貧民窟之一
10:56
because the largest drug cartel controls it.
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因為最大嘅販毒集團掌控呢個區域。
10:59
So I decided to go there.
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所以我決定去果度。
11:01
When I arrived --
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當我抵達嘅時候 --
11:03
I mean, I didn't have any contact with any NGO.
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我嘅意思系,我無同任何NGO取得聯繫。
11:06
There was none in place -- no association, no NGOs, nothing --
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果度咩都無 -- 無旅行社,無NGO,咩都無 --
11:09
no eyewitnesses.
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連證人都無。
11:11
So we just walked around,
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我哋周圍行,
11:13
and we met a woman,
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然後遇到一個女人,
11:15
and I showed her my book.
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我俾我本書佢睇。
11:17
And she said, "You know what?
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然後佢同我講,”你知唔知呀?
11:19
We're hungry for culture.
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我哋好文化飢渴呀。
11:21
We need culture out there."
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我哋呢度需要文化。”
11:24
So I went out and I started with the kids.
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我從幫小朋友影相開始。
11:27
I just took a few photos of the kids,
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我淨系拍左幾張小朋友嘅相,
11:29
and the next day I came with the posters and we pasted them.
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第二日我攞住張海報過黎,貼上去。
11:32
The day after, I came back and they were already scratched.
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第三日已經俾人搣左喇。
11:35
But that's okay.
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不過,唔緊要啦。
11:37
I wanted them to feel that this art belongs to them.
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我就系想俾佢地覺得啲藝術系佢地嘅。
11:41
Then the next day, I held a meeting on the main square
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第四日,我系主要嘅廣場開左個會
11:44
and some women came.
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有哋婦女黎左。
11:46
They were all linked to the three kids that got killed.
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佢地都系同果三個比人殺死嘅細路有關。
11:51
There was the mother, the grandmother, the best friend --
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有細路嘅阿媽,阿婆,好朋友。
11:54
they all wanted to shout the story.
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佢地全部都想大叫甘講個故事出黎。
11:58
After that day,
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果日之後,
12:00
everyone in the favela gave me the green light.
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每個貧民窟嘅人都對我開左綠燈。
12:03
I took more photos, and we started the project.
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我影左更多相,終於開始左個計劃。
12:06
The drug lords were kind of worried
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啲毒販對於我哋系到影相
12:08
about us filming in the place,
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有啲擔心。
12:10
so I told them, "You know what?
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我同佢哋講,“你哋知唔知呀?
12:12
I'm not interested in filming the violence and the weapons.
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我對暴力同武器無興趣。
12:14
You see that enough in the media.
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你系媒體度都見到啦。
12:16
What I want to show is the incredible life and energy.
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我要展示呢到嘅美好生活。
12:18
I've been seeing it around me the last few days."
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而過去幾日我真系見到。"
12:22
So that's a really symbolic pasting,
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呢張好有代表性,
12:24
because that's the first one we did that you couldn't see from the city.
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因為呢個系第一張你系城市見唔到嘅相。
12:27
And that's where the three kids got arrested,
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三個細路就系o系呢到俾人抓左,
12:30
and that's the grandmother of one of them.
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張相入面就系其中一個人嘅阿婆。
12:33
And on that stairs,
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而呢條樓梯,
12:35
that's where the traffickers always stand
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就系啲毒販成日黎嘅地方。
12:37
and there's a lot of exchange of fire.
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呢度成日都交火。
12:39
Everyone there understood the project.
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個個都明白個計劃系咩意思。
12:43
And then we pasted everywhere -- the whole hill.
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然後我哋將啲相貼滿左成個山。
12:46
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
12:56
What was interesting is that the media couldn't get in.
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有趣嘅系媒體過唔到黎。
12:58
I mean, you should see that.
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我嘅意思系,你可以理解。
13:00
They would have to film us from a really long distance by helicopter
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佢地系從好遠嘅距離嘅直升機上面影我哋,
13:03
and then have a really long lens,
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要用果種好長嘅鏡頭,
13:05
and we would see ourselves, on TV, pasting.
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然後我哋可以系電視機見到自己貼緊相。
13:07
And they would put a number: "Please call this number
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而且佢地仲寫左個電話,話:“如果你知道
13:09
if you know what's going on in Providencia."
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果度發生左咩事,請打呢個電話。"
13:11
We just did a project and then left
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我哋做完個計劃就走左
13:14
so the media wouldn't know.
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所以媒體唔知道發生咩事。
13:16
So how can we know about the project?
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甘點樣可以了解呢個計劃呢?
13:18
So they had to go and find the women
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所以佢地去左搵啲女人
13:21
and get an explanation from them.
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從佢地果到得到解釋。
13:23
So you create a bridge between the media
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甘樣,你就創造左一個媒體
13:26
and the anonymous women.
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同埋無名氏婦女之間嘅橋樑。
13:29
We kept traveling.
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我哋繼續旅行。
13:31
We went to Africa, Sudan, Sierra Leone,
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一路去左非洲、蘇丹、塞拉热昂、
13:33
Liberia, Kenya.
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利比里亞、肯尼亞。
13:35
In war-torn places like Monrovia,
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系好似蒙羅維亞啲戰火紛飛嘅地方,
13:37
people come straight to you.
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啲人會直接走到你面前。
13:39
I mean, they want to know what you're up to.
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姐系,佢哋想知道你黎呢到做咩。
13:41
They kept asking me, "What is the purpose of your project?
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佢地不停問我,”你黎呢到有咩目的?
13:44
Are you an NGO? Are you the media?"
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你系咪NGO嘅人呀?你系咪媒體呀?"
13:47
Art. Just doing art.
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藝術,搞藝術咋。
13:50
Some people question, "Why is it in black and white?
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有啲人問,"點解系黑白架?
13:52
Don't you have color in France?"
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法國無顏色咩?”
13:54
(Laughter)
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(笑)
13:56
Or they tell you, "Are these people all dead?"
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有時佢地會問,"呢啲人系咪死左呀?"
13:58
Some who understood the project would explain it to others.
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有哋人睇得明,就會同其他人解釋。
14:01
And to a man who did not understand, I heard someone say,
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我聽到有個人同個唔明嘅人解釋,
14:04
"You know, you've been here for a few hours
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“嗱,你企系到幾個鐘
14:07
trying to understand, discussing with your fellows.
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冥思苦想,同你嘅同伴討論。
14:10
During that time, you haven't thought about
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系呢段時間,你從來都無諗過
14:12
what you're going to eat tomorrow.
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聽日食啲咩。
14:14
This is art."
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甘就系藝術啦。"
14:17
I think it's people's curiosity
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我覺得系啲人嘅好奇心
14:20
that motivates them
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激發佢地
14:23
to come into the projects.
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去參與呢個計劃。
14:25
And then it becomes more.
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所以個計劃先會越來越多。
14:27
It becomes a desire, a need, an armor.
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變成一種慾望,一種需要,一種[聽唔清楚]。
14:31
On this bridge that's in Monrovia,
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系蒙羅維亞嘅橋上面,
14:34
ex-rebel soldiers helped us pasting a portrait
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一個曾經系叛軍嘅軍人幫我哋貼一張相
14:37
of a woman that might have been raped during the war.
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呢張相系一個系戰爭中被軍隊強姦嘅婦女。
14:40
Women are always the first ones targeted
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系衝突之中
14:42
during conflict.
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婦女總系最早嘅受害者。
14:45
This is Kibera, Kenya,
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呢到系这是肯尼亞的基貝拉,
14:47
one of the largest slums of Africa.
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非洲最大嘅貧民窟之一。
14:50
You might have seen images about the post-election violence
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你或者見過2008選舉後發生
14:53
that happened there in 2008.
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嘅一啲畫面。
14:57
This time we covered the roofs of the houses,
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今次我哋從房頂落手,
14:59
but we didn't use paper,
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不過我哋無用紙,
15:02
because paper doesn't prevent the rain
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因為紙一落雨就無左
15:05
from leaking inside the house --
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唔可以幫啲屋擋雨 --
15:07
vinyl does.
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乙烯基塑料就得喇。
15:09
Then art becomes useful.
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呢個時候藝術有實際用途。
15:11
So the people kept it.
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啲人保留左佢地。
15:13
You know what I love is, for example, when you see the biggest eye there,
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我最鍾意嘅系當你睇到最大果隻眼嘅時候,
15:16
there are so [many] houses inside.
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你可以看到眼睛果到有好多屋。
15:18
And I went there a few months ago --
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幾個月前我去左果度 --
15:20
photos are still there -- and it was missing a piece of the eye.
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啲相仲系到 -- 不過眼睛入面有一塊唔見左。
15:23
So I asked the people what happened.
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我問啲人發生咩事。
15:25
"Oh, that guy just moved."
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“哦,果個人搬左屋呀。”
15:27
(Laughter)
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(笑)
15:31
When the roofs were covered, a woman said as a joke,
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當我哋將啲乙烯基塑料鋪系屋頂嘅時候,有個女人同我哋講笑,
15:34
"Now God can see me."
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”宜家上帝可以見到我啦。“
15:36
When you look at Kibera now,
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你宜家再睇基貝拉,
15:38
they look back.
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佢地都會睇返你
15:44
Okay, India.
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好啦,印度。
15:46
Before I start that, just so you know,
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我開始講之前,你要知道,
15:48
each time we go to a place, we don't have authorization,
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我們每一次去一個地方,都無旅遊顧問,
15:50
so we set up like commandos --
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所以我哋搞到好似突擊隊甘 --
15:52
we're a group of friends who arrive there,
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我哋一班人去到果個地方,
15:54
and we try to paste on the walls.
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到左就想辦法講啲相貼到牆上面。
15:56
But there are places where you just can't paste on a wall.
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不過有啲地方你唔可以就甘貼野系牆。
15:59
In India it was just impossible to paste.
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系印度想貼野系無可能嘅。
16:02
I heard culturally and because of the law,
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我聽講系文化同埋法律嘅原因,
16:05
they would just arrest us at the first pasting.
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如果我們系牆貼左野,就會即刻俾人拉。
16:08
So we decided to paste white,
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於是我哋決定貼白色,
16:10
white on the walls.
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系牆上貼白紙。
16:12
So imagine white guys pasting white papers.
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你想像下一班人系牆到貼白紙。
16:14
So people would come to us and ask us,
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有人過黎問我哋,
16:16
"Hey, what are you up to?"
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“喂,你哋搞緊咩呀?”
16:18
"Oh, you know, we're just doing art." "Art?"
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“哦,無野,搞緊藝術。” “藝術?”
16:22
Of course, they were confused.
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當然,佢地好唔知點甘嘅樣。
16:24
But you know how India has a lot of dust in the streets,
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不過你知啦,印度條街好多塵架嘛,
16:27
and the more dust you would have
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越多塵
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going up in the air,
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系空氣到飄下飄下,
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on the white paper you can almost see,
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系白紙到都見到甘制,
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but there is this sticky part
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不過有啲位系有粘性嘅
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like when you reverse a sticker.
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就好似你反轉張貼紙甘。
16:38
So the more dust you have, the more it will reveal the photo.
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所以越多塵,就越可以見到張相。
16:41
So we could just walk in the street during the next days
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之後幾日我哋系條街到行
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and the photos would get revealed by themselves.
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就見到啲相自己顯現左出黎。
16:46
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
16:53
Thank you.
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多謝。
16:56
So we didn't get caught this time.
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所以我哋今次無俾人抓住。
17:01
Each project -- that's a film
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呢個計劃,系《婦女系英雄》
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from Women Are Heroes.
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一條片。
17:06
(Music)
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(音樂)
17:09
Okay.
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(好)
17:11
For each project we do
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我哋將每一個計劃
17:13
a film.
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都整左一條片。
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And most of what you see -- that's a trailer from "Women Are Heroes" --
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呢個系《婦女系英雄》嘅預告片 --
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its images, photography,
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有形象、相片,
17:21
taken one after the other.
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一張一張排起。
17:42
And the photos kept traveling even without us.
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就是我哋唔系到,啲相都會繼續旅行。
18:21
(Laughter)
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(笑)
18:23
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
18:33
Hopefully, you'll see the film,
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希望你哋有機會睇到呢條片,
18:35
and you'll understand the scope of the project
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然後你就會明白呢個計劃嘅範圍
18:37
and what the people felt when they saw those photos.
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同埋啲人見到啲相有咩感覺。
18:39
Because that's a big part of it. There's layers behind each photo.
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呢個系計劃更重要嘅一部分。每一張相都有層次。
18:42
Behind each image is a story.
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每張相都有故事。
18:45
Women Are Heroes created a new dynamic
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《婦女系英雄》呢個計劃為社區
18:47
in each of the communities,
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增加左新嘅活力,
18:49
and the women kept that dynamic after we left.
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呢啲婦女系我哋走左之後仲繼續保持呢種活力。
18:52
For example, we did books -- not for sale --
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例如,我哋整左啲書 -- 非賣品 --
18:55
that all the community would get.
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全個社區都可以得到。
18:57
But to get it, they would have to [get] it signed by one of the women.
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不過想要就要攞本書俾其中一個女人簽名。
19:01
We did that in most of the places.
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好多地方我哋都甘做。
19:03
We go back regularly.
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我哋定時定候就會返去。
19:05
And so in Providencia, for example, in the favela,
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包括果個貧民窟,
19:08
we have a cultural center running there.
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我哋系果到有一個固定嘅中心。
19:10
In Kibera, each year we cover more roofs.
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系基貝拉,每年我哋都會整多啲相系房頂。
19:12
Because of course, when we left, the people who were just at the edge of the project
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因為,每一次我哋走果陣,有啲人嘅房頂就系我哋個計劃旁邊,
19:15
said, "Hey, what about my roof?"
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佢地話:“喂,我個屋頂呢?”
19:18
So we decided to come the year after
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於是我哋決定第二年再去過
19:20
and keep doing the project.
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繼續做呢個計劃。
19:23
A really important point for me
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對我黎講,好重要嘅一點系
19:25
is that I don't use any brand or corporate sponsors.
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我無用任何品牌或者公司嘅贊助。
19:28
So I have no responsibility
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所以我對其他人無責任
19:30
to anyone but myself
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除左對自己
19:32
and the subjects.
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仲有呢個主題。
19:34
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
19:38
And that is for me
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對我黎講
19:40
one of the more important things in the work.
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亦系我工作中最重要嘅事
19:42
I think, today,
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我覺得,宜家,
19:44
as important as the result is the way you do things.
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事情嘅結果同你做事嘅方式一樣重要。
19:47
And that has always been a central part of the work.
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而呢個總系工作嘅一部分。
19:51
And what's interesting is that fine line that I have
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有趣嘅系我會將圖像同廣告
19:53
with images and advertising.
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明確甘分開。
19:55
We just did some pasting in Los Angeles
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上個禮拜,我哋系洛杉磯
19:57
on another project in the last weeks.
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貼左啲相,開始左一個新計劃。
20:00
And I was even invited to cover the MOCA museum.
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佢地甚至邀請我將啲相貼到加州現代藝術博物館。
20:04
But yesterday the city called them and said,
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不過尋日,市政府嘅人打電話俾我 ,話
20:06
"Look, you're going to have to tear it down.
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“睇黎,我哋要將佢地搣左佢。
20:08
Because this can be taken for advertising,
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因為啲人會覺得我哋做緊廣告,
20:10
and because of the law,
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法律唔俾呀,
20:12
it has to be taken down."
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以一定要攞落黎。“
20:14
But tell me, advertising for what?
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不過唔該話我知,我哋做緊咩廣告?
20:17
The people I photograph
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俾我影相嘅人
20:19
were proud to participate in the project
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好自豪甘黎參加呢個計劃
20:21
and to have their photo in the community.
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好自豪可以系社區展示佢地嘅相。
20:23
But they asked me for a promise basically.
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佢地只有一個好基本嘅要求。
20:25
They asked me, "Please, make our story travel with you."
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佢地話,”求下你啦,俾我哋嘅故事同你一齊旅行。"
20:29
So I did. That's Paris.
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所以我做左。呢到系巴黎。
20:32
That's Rio.
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呢到系里約。
20:34
In each place, we built exhibitions with a story, and the story traveled.
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每一個地方,我哋都用一個故事做展覽,然後呢個故事開始傳播。
20:38
You understand the full scope of the project.
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你會理解成個計劃嘅範圍。
20:40
That's London.
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呢到系倫敦,
20:43
New York.
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紐約。
20:45
And today, they are with you in Long Beach.
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今日,佢地系長島,同你一齊。
20:49
All right, recently I started a public art project
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好啦,最近我開始左另外一項公共藝術項目
20:52
where I don't use my artwork anymore.
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今次我唔用自己嘅作品喇。
20:55
I use Man Ray, Helen Levitt,
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我用Man Ray, Helen Levitt
20:58
Giacomelli, other people's artwork.
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Gracomelli,其他人嘅作品。
21:00
It doesn't matter today if it's your photo or not.
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系唔系你嘅相唔緊要。
21:03
The importance is what you do
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重要嘅系你用啲相
21:05
with the images,
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黎做咩,
21:07
the statement it makes where it's pasted.
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佢貼嘅地方有咩用意。
21:10
So for example, I pasted the photo of the minaret
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舉例,我貼左一張尖塔嘅相
21:13
in Switzerland
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系瑞士,
21:15
a few weeks after they voted the law forbidding minarets in the country.
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因為佢地系幾個禮拜之前投票通過禁止國內起尖塔嘅法律。
21:19
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
21:25
This image of three men wearing gas masks
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呢張有三個帶住防毒面具男人嘅相,
21:28
was taken in Chernobyl originally,
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系o系Chernobyl影嘅,
21:30
and I pasted it in Southern Italy,
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我將佢貼系意大利南部,
21:33
where the mafia sometimes bury the garbage under the ground.
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果度啲黑手黨成日將啲垃圾埋系地下。
21:39
In some ways, art can change the world.
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從某啲方面黎講,藝術系可以改變世界嘅。
21:41
Art is not supposed to change the world,
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藝術本身唔系為左改變世界,
21:43
to change practical things,
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唔系為左去改變具體的事,
21:45
but to change perceptions.
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而系去改變觀點。
21:47
Art can change
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藝術可以改變
21:49
the way we see the world.
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我哋睇世界嘅方式。
21:51
Art can create an analogy.
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藝術可以創造一種類比。
21:54
Actually the fact that art cannot change things
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事實上藝術改變唔到事態
21:57
makes it a neutral place
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藝術處於中立地帶
21:59
for exchanges and discussions,
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為交流同討論提供環境,
22:02
and then enables you to change the world.
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令到改變世界變得可能。
22:05
When I do my work,
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系我創作嘅時候,
22:07
I have two kinds of reactions.
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一般會遇到兩種反應。
22:09
People say, "Oh, why don't you go in Iraq or Afghanistan.
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有人會話:”噢,你不如去伊拉克或者阿富汗啦...
22:12
They would be really useful."
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響嗰邊一定好有用。“
22:14
Or, "How can we help?"
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又有人問 ”我哋可以點幫你?“
22:17
I presume that you belong to the second category,
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我諗你哋似乎系屬於第二類,
22:20
and that's good,
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其實系好事
22:22
because for that project,
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因為呢個計劃,
22:24
I'm going to ask you to take the photos
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我要請大家影相
22:26
and paste them.
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然後貼出黎。
22:29
So now my wish is:
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所以我宜家嘅心願系:
22:31
(mock drum roll)
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(敲鼓動作)
22:33
(Laughter)
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(笑)
22:36
I wish for you to stand up
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我希望各位積極參與
22:39
for what you care about
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通過呢個全球性的藝術項目
22:42
by participating in a global art project,
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表現你最關切的人物事件,
22:45
and together we'll turn the world inside out.
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我哋一齊顛覆世界。
22:51
And this starts right now.
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而家就開始
22:53
Yes, everyone in the room.
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從在座的每一位開始 就系你
22:55
Everyone watching.
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仲有屏幕另一邊嘅每一位觀眾
22:58
I wanted that wish
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我希望呢個願望
23:00
to actually start now.
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可以從呢一分鐘開始實行。
23:02
So a subject you're passionate about, a person who you want to tell their story
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揀一個你心動嘅主題 搵一位有精彩故事嘅人物
23:05
or even your own photos --
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或者你自己張相 --
23:07
tell me what you stand for.
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話我知 你嘅觀點。
23:09
Take the photos, the portraits,
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影啲相,影啲人像,
23:11
upload it -- I'll give you all the details --
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放上網--我會講明細節--
23:14
and I'll send you back your poster. Join by groups
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跟住等我寄返張海報俾你。一班人一齊
23:17
and reveal things to the world.
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將現實展示俾全世界。
23:20
The full data is on the website --
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所以嘅資料都系呢個網站:
23:23
insideoutproject.net --
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insideoutproject.net
23:25
that is launching today.
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網站今日會上線。
23:28
What we see changes who we are.
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我哋見到嘅野會改變我哋。
23:30
When we act together,
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當我哋一齊行動,
23:32
the whole thing is much more than the sum of the parts.
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團體嘅效應遠遠超出個人嘅總和
23:36
So I hope that, together, we'll create something
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所以我希望,我哋可以一齊創造
23:38
that the world will remember.
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一啲世界會記得嘅事。
23:40
And this starts right now and depends on you.
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宜家開始啦,靠曬你。
23:43
Thank you.
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多謝。
23:45
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
23:52
Thank you.
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多謝大家
23:54
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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