Joy Sun: Should you donate differently?

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Prevodilac: Stefan Zrnović Lektor: Mile Živković
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I suspect that
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Pretpostavljam da svaka
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every aid worker in Africa
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dobrotvorna radnica u Africi
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comes to a time in her career
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dođe do stadijuma u svojoj karijeri
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when she wants to take all the money for her project —
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kada želi da uzme sav novac za svoj projekat -
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maybe it's a school or a training program —
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možda je u pitanju škola ili program obuke -
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pack it in a suitcase,
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spakuje ga u torbu,
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get on a plane flying over the poorest villages in the country,
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sedne na avion koji leti preko najsiromašnijih sela u državi,
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and start throwing that money out the window.
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i počne da baca taj novac kroz prozor.
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Because to a veteran aid worker,
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Jer za veterana dobrotvornog radnika,
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the idea of putting cold, hard cash
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ideja o stavljanju čistog keša
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into the hands of the poorest people on Earth
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u ruke najsiromašnijih ljudi na planeti
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doesn't sound crazy,
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ne zvuči suludo,
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it sounds really satisfying.
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već zadovoljavajuće.
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I had that moment right about the 10-year mark,
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Doživela sam taj trenutak oko svoje desete godine rada,
00:49
and luckily, that's also when I learned
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i srećom, tada sam naučila
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that this idea actually exists,
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da ova ideja zapravo postoji,
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and it might be just what the aid system needs.
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i to je možda upravo ono što sistemu treba.
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Economists call it an unconditional cash transfer,
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Ekonomisti to zovu nezavisnim prebačajem novca,
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and it's exactly that: It's cash given
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i to je upravo to: novac dat
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with no strings attached.
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bez ikakvih obaveza.
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Governments in developing countries
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Vlade u državama u razvoju
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have been doing this for decades,
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rade ovo decenijama,
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and it's only now, with more evidence
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i tek sada, sa više dokaza
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and new technology that it's possible
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i novom tehnologijom, moguće je
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to make this a model for delivering aid.
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napraviti od ovoga model za deljenje pomoći.
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It's a pretty simple idea, right?
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Prilično je jednostavna ideja, zar ne?
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Well, why did I spend a decade doing other stuff
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Zašto sam onda provela deceniju radeći druge stvari
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for the poor?
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za siromašne?
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Honestly, I believed that I could do more good
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Iskreno, verovala sam da mogu da učinim više dobrog
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with money for the poor
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sa novcem za siromašne
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than the poor could do for themselves.
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nego što siromašni mogu da urade za sebe.
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I held two assumptions:
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Imala sam dve pretpostavke:
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One, that poor people are poor in part
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jedna je da su siromašni ljudi delimično siromašni
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because they're uneducated and
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jer su neobrazovani
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don't make good choices;
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i ne prave dobre izbore;
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two is that we then need people like me
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druga je da su nam potrebni ljudi poput mene
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to figure out what they need and get it to them.
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da shvate šta im treba i daju im to.
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It turns out, the evidence says otherwise.
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Izgleda da dokazi pokazuju suprotno.
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In recent years, researchers have been studying
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Poslednjih godina, istraživači su proučavali
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what happens when we give poor people cash.
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šta se dešava kada damo novac siromašnim ljudima.
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Dozens of studies show across the board
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Desetine istraživanja uveliko pokazuju
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that people use cash transfers
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da ljudi koriste prebačaj novca
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to improve their own lives.
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da poboljšaju svoje sopstvene živote.
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Pregnant women in Uruguay buy better food
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Trudnica u Urugvaju kupuje bolju hranu
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and give birth to healthier babies.
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i rađa zdravije bebe.
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Sri Lankan men invest in their businesses.
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Šrilančani ulažu u svoj posao.
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Researchers who studied our work in Kenya
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Istraživači koji su proučavali naš rad u Keniji
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found that people invested in a range of assets,
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su otkrili da su ljudi ulagali u različite resurse,
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from livestock to equipment to home improvements,
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od stoke do opreme i renoviranja u kući,
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and they saw increases in income
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i primetili su povećanja u prihodima
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from business and farming
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od posla i poljoprivrede
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one year after the cash was sent.
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godinu dana nakon što je novac poslat.
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None of these studies found that people
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Nijedno od ovih istraživanja nije otkrilo da ljudi
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spend more on drinking or smoking
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troše više na piće i duvan
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or that people work less.
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ili da ljudi rade manje.
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In fact, they work more.
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Zapravo, rade više.
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Now, these are all material needs.
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To su sve materijalne potrebe.
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In Vietnam, elderly recipients used
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U Vijetnamu, stariji primaoci su koristili
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their cash transfers to pay for coffins.
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prebačaj novca da bi platili svoje kovčege.
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As someone who wonders if Maslow got it wrong,
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Kao neko ko se pita da li je Maslov pogrešio,
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I find this choice to prioritize spiritual needs
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smatram davanje ovakvog prioriteta duhovnim potrebama
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deeply humbling.
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veoma poniznim.
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I don't know if I would have chosen to give food
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Ne znam da li bih izabrala da dajem hranu,
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or equipment or coffins,
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opremu ili kovčege,
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which begs the question:
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što pokreće pitanje:
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How good are we at allocating resources
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koliko smo dobri u deljenju resursa
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on behalf of the poor?
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u ime siromašnih?
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Are we worth the cost?
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Da li smo vredni troška?
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Again, we can look at empirical evidence
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Ponovo, možemo da posmatramo iskustvene dokaze
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on what happens when we give people stuff
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o tome šta se dešava kada dajemo ljudima stvari
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of our choosing.
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po našem izboru.
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One very telling study looked at a program in India
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Jedno iscrpno istraživanje posmatralo je program u Indiji
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that gives livestock to the so-called ultra-poor,
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gde se daje stoka takozvanim "ultrasiromašnima",
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and they found that 30 percent of recipients
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i otkrili su da se 30 procenata primalaca
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had turned around and sold the livestock they had been given
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okrenulo i prodalo stoku koju su dobili
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for cash.
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za novac.
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The real irony is,
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Prava ironija je
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for every 100 dollars worth of assets
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da su za svako sredstvo vredno 100 dolara
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this program gave someone,
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koje je ovaj program dao nekome,
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they spent another 99 dollars to do it.
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oni potrošili ostalih 99 dolara da to urade.
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What if, instead, we use technology to put cash,
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Šta ako umesto toga koristimo tehnologiju da bismo stavili novac
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whether from aid agencies or from any one of us
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od agencija za pomoć ili bilo koga od nas
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directly into a poor person's hands.
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direktno u ruke siromašne osobe?
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Today, three in four Kenyans use mobile money,
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Danas, tri od četiri Kenijca koriste mobilni novac,
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which is basically a bank account that can run
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koji je zapravo bankovni račun kojim može da se upravlja
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on any cell phone.
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sa bilo kog mobilnog telefona.
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A sender can pay a 1.6 percent fee
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Pošiljalac može da plati uslugu transfera od 1,6%
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and with the click of a button
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i klikom na dugme
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send money directly to a recipient's account
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pošalje novac direktno na račun primaoca
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with no intermediaries.
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bez posrednika.
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Like the technologies that are disrupting industries
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Poput tehnologija koje menjaju privredu
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in our own lives,
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u našim životima,
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payments technology in poor countries
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tehnologija plaćanja u siromašnim zemljama
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could disrupt aid.
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može da promeni pomoć.
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It's spreading so quickly that it's possible
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Širi se toliko brzo da je moguće
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to imagine reaching billions
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zamisliti dostizanje milijarde
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of the world's poor this way.
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najsiromašnijih ljudi na svetu na ovaj način.
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That's what we've started to do at GiveDirectly.
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To smo mi počeli da radimo u "GiveDirectly".
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We're the first organization
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Mi smo prva organizacija
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dedicated to providing cash transfers to the poor.
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koja omogućava prebačaj novca siromašnima.
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We've sent cash to 35,000 people across rural Kenya
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Poslali smo novac za 35 000 ljudi širom ruralne Kenije
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and Uganda
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i Ugande
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in one-time payments of 1,000 dollars
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u jednostrukim isplatama od 1000 dolara,
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per family.
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po porodici.
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So far, we've looked for the poorest people
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Do sada smo tražili najsiromašnije ljude
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in the poorest villages, and in this part of the world,
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u najsiromašnijim selima i u ovom delu sveta,
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they're the ones living in homes
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to su oni koji žive u kućama
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made of mud and thatch,
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od blata i trske,
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not cement and iron.
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a ne cementa i čelika.
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So let's say that's your family.
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Recimo da je to vaša porodica.
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We show up at your door with an Android phone.
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Mi se pojavimo na vašim vratima sa android telefonom.
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We'll get your name, take your photo
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Uzmemo vaše ime, slikamo vas
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and a photo of your hut
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i vašu brvnaru
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and grab the GPS coordinates.
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i uzmemo GPS koordinate.
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That night, we send all the data to the cloud,
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Iste noći, pošaljemo sve podatke u oblak
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and each piece gets checked
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i svaki deo proverava
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by an independent team
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nezavisni tim
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using, for one example, satellite images.
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koristeći, na primer, satelitske snimke.
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Then, we'll come back,
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Zatim, mi se vratimo,
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we'll sell you a basic cell phone
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prodamo vam običan mobilni telefon
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if you don't have one already,
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ako ga već nemate,
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and a few weeks later,
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i nekoliko nedelja kasnije,
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we send money to it.
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pošaljemo vam novac na njega.
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Something that five years ago
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Nešto što je pre pet godina
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would have seemed impossible
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delovalo nemoguće,
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we can now do efficiently
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danas možemo da uradimo efikasno
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and free of corruption.
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i bez korupcije.
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The more cash we give to the poor,
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Što više novca dajemo siromašnima,
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and the more evidence we have that it works,
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i što više dokaza imamo da to funkcioniše,
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the more we have to reconsider
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to više moramo da uzmemo u obzir
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everything else we give.
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sve ostalo što dajemo.
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Today, the logic behind aid is too often,
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Danas je logika kod pomoći previše često to
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well, we do at least some good.
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da činimo makar nešto dobro.
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When we're complacent
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Kada smo popustljivi
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with that as our bar,
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sa time kao svojim standardom,
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when we tell ourselves that giving aid
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kada kažemo sebi da je davanje pomoći
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is better than no aid at all,
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bolje nego ne davati ništa,
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we tend to invest inefficiently,
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težimo da ulažemo neefikasno,
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in our own ideas that strike us as innovative,
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u sopstvene ideje za koje mislimo da su inovativne,
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on writing reports,
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u pisanje izveštaja,
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on plane tickets and SUVs.
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u avionske karte i terenska vozila.
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What if the logic was,
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Šta ako bi logika bila:
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will we do better than cash given directly?
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da li bismo učinili bolje od davanja novca direktno?
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Organizations would have to prove
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Organizacije bi trebalo da dokažu
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that they're doing more good for the poor
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da rade više dobrog za siromašne
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than the poor can do for themselves.
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nego što siromašni mogu da urade za sebe.
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Of course, giving cash won't create public goods
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Naravno, davanje novca neće stvoriti javna dobra
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like eradicating disease or building strong institutions,
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poput iskorenjivanja bolesti ili građenja jakih institucija,
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but it could set a higher bar
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ali bi moglo da postavi viši standard
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for how we help individual families
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za načine na koji pomažemo porodicama
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improve their lives.
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da poboljšaju svoje živote.
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I believe in aid.
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Verujem u pomoć.
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I believe most aid is better than just
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Verujem da je većina pomoći bolja od običnog
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throwing money out of a plane.
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bacanja novca iz aviona.
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I am also absolutely certain
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Potpuno sam sigurna
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that a lot of aid today
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da većina pomoći danas
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isn't better than giving directly to the poor.
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nije bolja od direktnog davanja novca siromašnima.
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I hope that one day, it will be.
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Nadam se da će biti jednog dana.
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Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
07:29
(Applause)
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