Joy Sun: Should you donate differently?

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Prevoditelj: Martina Bertić Recezent: Ivan Stamenković
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I suspect that
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Pretpostavljam da
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every aid worker in Africa
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svaka humanitarna radnica u Africi
dođe do trenutka u svojoj karijeri kad
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comes to a time in her career
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when she wants to take all the money for her project —
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poželi pokupiti sav novac za svoj projekt —
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maybe it's a school or a training program —
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bilo to za školu ili program osposobljavanja —
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pack it in a suitcase,
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spakirati ga u torbu
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get on a plane flying over the poorest villages in the country,
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sjesti na avion koji leti iznad najsiromašnijih sela u zemlji
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and start throwing that money out the window.
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i početi rasipati novac kroz prozor.
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Because to a veteran aid worker,
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Jer humanitarnom radniku veteranu
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the idea of putting cold, hard cash
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ideja stavljanja gotovog novca
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into the hands of the poorest people on Earth
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u ruke najsiromašnijih ljudi na svijetu
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doesn't sound crazy,
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uopće ne zvuči suludo,
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it sounds really satisfying.
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zapravo zvuči vrlo zadovoljavajuće.
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I had that moment right about the 10-year mark,
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Taj sam trenutak doživjela oko desete obljetnice svog rada
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and luckily, that's also when I learned
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i srećom, u isto vrijeme saznala
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that this idea actually exists,
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da ova ideja uistinu postoji
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and it might be just what the aid system needs.
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i da bi ona mogla biti baš ono što sustavu humanitarne pomoći nedostaje.
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Economists call it an unconditional cash transfer,
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Ekonomisti to zovu bezuvjetnim transferom novca
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and it's exactly that: It's cash given
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i to je upravo ono što to jest: novac dan
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with no strings attached.
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bez ikakvih uvjeta.
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Governments in developing countries
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Vlade država u razvoju
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have been doing this for decades,
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radile su ovo destljećima,
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and it's only now, with more evidence
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ali tek je sada, uz više dokaza
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and new technology that it's possible
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i novu tehnologiju, moguće
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to make this a model for delivering aid.
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učiniti ju modelom dostavljanja pomoći.
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It's a pretty simple idea, right?
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Prilično jednostavna ideja, zar ne?
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Well, why did I spend a decade doing other stuff
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Pa zašto sam onda provela desetljeće radeći druge stvari
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for the poor?
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za siromašne?
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Honestly, I believed that I could do more good
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Iskreno, vjerovala sam da mogu učiniti više dobra
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with money for the poor
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novcem za siromašne
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than the poor could do for themselves.
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nego što bi to oni mogli učiniti sami za sebe.
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I held two assumptions:
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Imala sam dvije pretpostavke:
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One, that poor people are poor in part
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Prva, da su siromašni jednim dijelom
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because they're uneducated and
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siromašni jer su neobrazovani i
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don't make good choices;
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jer ne donose dobre odluke;
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two is that we then need people like me
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i druga, da trebamo ljude poput mene
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to figure out what they need and get it to them.
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kako bismo shvatili što oni trebaju i kako bismo im to dali.
01:51
It turns out, the evidence says otherwise.
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Ispada da dokazi kažu drugačije.
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In recent years, researchers have been studying
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Posljednjih godina istraživači su proučavali
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what happens when we give poor people cash.
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što se događa kad damo novac siromašnima.
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Dozens of studies show across the board
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Deseci studija potvrđuju
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that people use cash transfers
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da ljudi koriste dobiveni novac
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to improve their own lives.
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kako bi unaprijedili vlastite živote.
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Pregnant women in Uruguay buy better food
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Trudnice iz Urugvaja kupuju bolju hranu
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and give birth to healthier babies.
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i rađaju zdravije bebe.
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Sri Lankan men invest in their businesses.
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Muškarci iz Šri Lanke ulažu u svoja poduzeća.
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Researchers who studied our work in Kenya
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Istraživači koji su proučavali naš rad u Keniji
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found that people invested in a range of assets,
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saznali su da ljudi ulažu u različite stvari:
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from livestock to equipment to home improvements,
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od stoke preko opreme do kućanskih adaptacija,
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and they saw increases in income
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i vidjeli su rast u prihodima
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from business and farming
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preko poslova i poljoprivrede
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one year after the cash was sent.
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samo godinu dana nakon što su primili novac.
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None of these studies found that people
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Nijedno od ovih istraživanja nije utvrdilo
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spend more on drinking or smoking
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trošenje novca na alkohol ili cigarete
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or that people work less.
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ili smanjenje količine rada.
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In fact, they work more.
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Štoviše, radi se i više.
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Now, these are all material needs.
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Ovdje se radi o materijalnim potrebama.
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In Vietnam, elderly recipients used
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Stariji primatelji pomoći u Vijetnamu koristili su novac
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their cash transfers to pay for coffins.
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za svoje lijesove.
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As someone who wonders if Maslow got it wrong,
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Kao netko tko se pita je li Maslow pogrešno shvatio,
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I find this choice to prioritize spiritual needs
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smatram da davanje prioriteta duhovnim potrebama
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deeply humbling.
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uči skromnosti.
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I don't know if I would have chosen to give food
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Ne znam bih li odabrala davati hranu,
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or equipment or coffins,
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opremu ili lijesove,
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which begs the question:
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što nameće pitanje:
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How good are we at allocating resources
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Koliko nam dobro ide raspoređivanje sredstava
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on behalf of the poor?
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u ime siromašnih?
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Are we worth the cost?
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Smijemo li preuzeti takvu odgovornost?
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Again, we can look at empirical evidence
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Ponavljam, možemo sagledati empirijske dokaze
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on what happens when we give people stuff
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o tome što ljudi čine s onime što smo im dali
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of our choosing.
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po našem izboru.
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One very telling study looked at a program in India
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Jedno vrlo znakovito istraživanje bavi se programom u Indiji
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that gives livestock to the so-called ultra-poor,
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koji daje stoku takozvanim ultra-siromašnima
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and they found that 30 percent of recipients
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i utvrđeno je da je 30 posto primatelja pomoći
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had turned around and sold the livestock they had been given
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prodalo stoku koju su dobili
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for cash.
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u zamjenu za gotovinu.
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The real irony is,
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Ironija je u tome
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for every 100 dollars worth of assets
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što za svakih 100 $ sredstava
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this program gave someone,
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koje je program dodijelio nekome,
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they spent another 99 dollars to do it.
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oni potroše još 99 $ kako bi to uradili.
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What if, instead, we use technology to put cash,
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Što ako bismo umjesto toga koristili tehnologiju kako bismo davali gotovinu
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whether from aid agencies or from any one of us
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od humanitarnih agencija ili od bilo koga od nas
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directly into a poor person's hands.
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izravno u ruke siromašnima?
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Today, three in four Kenyans use mobile money,
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Danas troje od četvero ljudi u Keniji koristi mobilni novac,
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which is basically a bank account that can run
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što je zapravo bankovni račun koji se može koristiti
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on any cell phone.
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s bilo kojeg mobilnog telefona.
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A sender can pay a 1.6 percent fee
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Pošiljatelj može platiti 1.6 posto od iznosa
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and with the click of a button
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i pritiskom gumba
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send money directly to a recipient's account
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poslati novac izravno na primateljev račun
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with no intermediaries.
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bez posrednika.
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Like the technologies that are disrupting industries
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Poput tehnologije koja mijenja industriju
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in our own lives,
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u našim životima,
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payments technology in poor countries
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tehnologija plaćanja u siromašnim zemljama
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could disrupt aid.
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također može promijeniti način na koji pomoć stiže.
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It's spreading so quickly that it's possible
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Širi se tolikom brzinom da je moguće
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to imagine reaching billions
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zamisliti dosezanje milijardi
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of the world's poor this way.
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siromašnih u svijetu na ovaj način.
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That's what we've started to do at GiveDirectly.
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To je ono s čime smo započeli u GiveDirectly (DajIzravno).
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We're the first organization
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Mi smo prva organizacija
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dedicated to providing cash transfers to the poor.
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posvećena transferu novca u gotovini siromašnima.
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We've sent cash to 35,000 people across rural Kenya
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Poslali smo novac u gotovini 35,000 ljudi ruralne Kenije
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and Uganda
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i Ugande
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in one-time payments of 1,000 dollars
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jednokratnim uplatama od 1,000 $
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per family.
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po obitelji.
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So far, we've looked for the poorest people
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Do sada smo tražili najsiromašnije
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in the poorest villages, and in this part of the world,
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u najsiromašnijim selima, a u ovom su dijelu svijeta
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they're the ones living in homes
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takvi smješteni u kućama
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made of mud and thatch,
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od blata i trske,
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not cement and iron.
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a ne cementa i željeza.
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So let's say that's your family.
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Pretpostavimo da se radi o vašoj obitelji.
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We show up at your door with an Android phone.
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Pojavit ćemo se pred vašim vratima s Android telefonom.
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We'll get your name, take your photo
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Uzet ćemo vaše ime i fotografirati vas
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and a photo of your hut
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i vašu brvnaru
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and grab the GPS coordinates.
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te uzeti GPS koordinate.
Iste ćemo noći poslati podatke u oblak,
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That night, we send all the data to the cloud,
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and each piece gets checked
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gdje svaki podatak provjerava
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by an independent team
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neovisan tim stručnjaka
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using, for one example, satellite images.
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koristeći, primjerice, satelitske snimke.
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Then, we'll come back,
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Zatim ćemo se vratiti
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we'll sell you a basic cell phone
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i prodati vam običan mobilni telefon
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if you don't have one already,
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ako ga već nemate
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and a few weeks later,
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i nakon nekoliko tjedana
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we send money to it.
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uplatiti vam novac.
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Something that five years ago
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Nešto što bi prije pet godina
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would have seemed impossible
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bilo nezamislivo
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we can now do efficiently
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sada možemo obaviti učinkovito
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and free of corruption.
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i bez korupcije.
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The more cash we give to the poor,
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Što više novca u gotovini damo siromašnima
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and the more evidence we have that it works,
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i što više dokaza o tome da to radi imamo,
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the more we have to reconsider
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više moramo razmisliti
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everything else we give.
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o svemu ostalome što dajemo.
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Today, the logic behind aid is too often,
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Danas pod davanjem humanitarne pomoći često
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well, we do at least some good.
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mislimo nešto kao, pa bar nešto dobroga činimo.
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When we're complacent
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Ako smo zadovoljni
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with that as our bar,
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time kao svojim najvećim dosegom,
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when we tell ourselves that giving aid
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kada se uvjeravamo da je išta
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is better than no aid at all,
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bolje nego ništa,
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we tend to invest inefficiently,
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često nerazumno ulažemo
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in our own ideas that strike us as innovative,
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u vlastite ideje koje nam se čine inovativnima,
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on writing reports,
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u pisanje izvještaja.
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on plane tickets and SUVs.
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u avionske karte i terenska vozila.
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What if the logic was,
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Što ako bismo pošli od pitanja:
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will we do better than cash given directly?
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Možemo li učiniti nešto bolje od izravnog davanja novca?
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Organizations would have to prove
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Organizacije bi morale dokazati
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that they're doing more good for the poor
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da čine više za siromašne
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than the poor can do for themselves.
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nego što to oni mogu učiniti sami za sebe.
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Of course, giving cash won't create public goods
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Naravno, davanje novca neće stvoriti javna dobra
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like eradicating disease or building strong institutions,
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kao iskorjenjivanje zaraza ili gradnju čvrstih institucija,
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but it could set a higher bar
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ali možemo postaviti ljestvicu više
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for how we help individual families
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u smislu pomaganja pojedinačnim obiteljima
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improve their lives.
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u unaprjeđivanju njihovih života.
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I believe in aid.
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Vjerujem u humanitarnu pomoć.
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I believe most aid is better than just
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Vjerujem da je većina humanitarne pomoći bolja
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throwing money out of a plane.
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od samog rasipanja novca iz aviona.
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I am also absolutely certain
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Također sam apsolutno uvjerena
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that a lot of aid today
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da veliki dio humanitarne pomoći
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isn't better than giving directly to the poor.
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nije bolji od izravnog davanja siromašnima.
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I hope that one day, it will be.
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Nadam se da će jednoga dana ipak biti.
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Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
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(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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