Boyd Varty: What I learned from Nelson Mandela

Prevodilac: Ivana Krivokuća Lektor: Tijana Mihajlović

I'm a man who's trying to live from his heart,

Ja sam čovek koji pokušava da živi vođen srcem,

and so just before I get going,

a pre nego što krenem,

I wanted to tell you as a South African

hteo bih da vam kažem, kao Južnoafrikanac,

that one of the men who has inspired me most

da je jedan od ljudi koji su me najviše inspirisali

passed away a few hours ago.

preminuo pre nekoliko sati.

Nelson Mandela has come to the end

Nelson Mandela je priveo kraju

of his long walk to freedom.

svoj dug put ka slobodi.

And so this talk is going to be for him.

Ovaj govor biće posvećen njemu.

I grew up in wonder.

Odrastao sam u čudu.

I grew up amongst those animals.

Odrastao sam među životinjama,

I grew up in the wild eastern part of South Africa

u divljem istočnom delu Južne Afrike

at a place called Londolozi Game Reserve.

u mestu zvanom rezervat Londolozi Gejm.

It's a place where my family has been

To je mesto gde je moja porodica bila angažovana u poslu sa safarijem

in the safari business for four generations.

tokom četiri generacije.

Now for as long as I can remember,

Otkad znam za sebe,

my job has been to take people out into nature,

moj posao je bio da odvodim ljude u prirodu,

and so I think it's a lovely twist of fate today

tako da smatram da je divan preokret

to have the opportunity

to što danas imam priliku

to bring some of my experiences out in nature

da iznesem neka svoja iskustva iz prirode

in to this gathering.

na ovom okupljanju.

Africa is a place

Afrika je mesto

where people still sit under starlit skies

gde ljudi još sede pod zvezdanim nebom

and around campfires and tell stories,

oko logorske vatre i pričaju priče,

and so what I have to share with you today

tako da je ono što želim da danas podelim sa vama

is the simple medicine of a few campfire stories,

jednostavno lečenje pomoću nekoliko priča uz logorsku vatru,

stories about heroes of heart.

priča o herojima srca.

Now my stories are not the stories

Moje priče nisu priče

that you'll hear on the news,

koje ćete čuti na vestima

and while it's true that Africa is a harsh place,

i mada je istina da je Afrika surovo mesto,

I also know it to be a place

takođe znam da je to mesto

where people, animals and ecosystems

na kome nas ljudi, životinje i ekosistemi

teach us about a more interconnected world.

uče o svetu koji je bolje povezan.

When I was nine years old,

Kada sam imao devet godina,

President Mandela came to stay with my family.

predsednik Mandela je odseo u mojoj porodici.

He had just been released from his 27 years of incarceration,

Upravo su ga bili pustili nakon 27 godina u zatvoru

and was in a period of readjustment

i bio je u periodu prilagođavanja

to his sudden global icon status.

na svoj iznenadni status svetske ikone.

Members of the African National Congress

Članovi afričkog nacionalnog kongresa

thought that in the bush

mislili su da će na selu

he would have time to rest and recuperate

imati vremena da se odmori i oporavi

away from the public eye,

daleko od očiju javnosti,

and it's true that lions tend to be

a tačno je da lavovi umeju da posluže

a very good deterrent to press and paparazzi.

da vrlo lepo obeshrabre novinare i paparacije.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

But it was a defining time for me as a young boy.

To je bilo vreme koje je mene, kao dečaka, definisalo.

I would take him breakfast in bed,

Odneo bih mu doručak u krevet,

and then, in an old track suit and slippers,

a zatim bi on, u staroj trenerci i papučama,

he would go for a walk around the garden.

krenuo u šetnju po bašti.

At night, I would sit with my family

Noću bih sedeo sa svojom porodicom

around the snowy, bunny-eared TV,

okupljenom oko televizora sa snegom i zečjim ušima

and watch images of that same

i gledao bih prizore

tog istog tihog čoveka iz bašte

quiet man from the garden

surrounded by hundreds and thousands of people

okruženog stotinama i hiljadama ljudi,

as scenes from his release were broadcast nightly.

jer su scene njegovog puštanja na slobodu emitovane svake noći.

He was bringing peace

Donosio je mir

to a divided and violent South Africa,

podeljenoj i nasilnoj Južnoj Africi;

one man with an unbelievable sense of his humanity.

jedan čovek sa neverovatnim smislom za čovečnost.

Mandela said often that the gift of prison

Mandela je često govorio da je dar zatvora

was the ability to go within and to think,

bila sposobnost da uđe u sebe i da razmišlja,

to create in himself

da stvori u sebi

the things he most wanted for South Africa:

stvari koje je najviše želeo za Južnu Afriku:

peace, reconciliation, harmony.

mir, pomirenje, harmoniju.

Through this act of immense open-heartedness,

Kroz ovaj čin neizmernog pokazivanja otvorenog srca,

he was to become the embodiment

postaće otelotvorenje

of what in South Africa we call "ubuntu."

onoga što u Južnoj Africi nazivamo „ubuntu“.

Ubuntu: I am because of you.

„Ubuntu„ - „ja postojim zbog tebe“,

Or, people are not people

ili „ljudi nisu ljudi bez drugih ljudi“.

without other people.

It's not a new idea or value

To nije nova ideja ili vrednost,

but it's one that I certainly think at these times

ali svakako jeste nešto što smatram da u ovim vremenima

is worth building on.

vredi graditi.

In fact, it is said that in the collective consciousness of Africa,

Zapravo, govori se da u kolektivnoj svesti Afrike,

we get to experience the deepest parts

imamo mogućnost da iskusimo najdublje delove sopstvene ljudskosti

of our own humanity

through our interactions with others.

kroz interakciju sa drugima.

Ubuntu is at play right now.

Ubuntu se dešava upravo sada.

You are holding a space for me

Vi mi dajete prostora

to express the deepest truth of who I am.

da izrazim najdublju istinu onoga što jesam.

Without you, I'm just a guy talking to an empty room,

Bez vas sam samo tip koji priča pred praznom prostorijom,

and I spent a lot of time last week doing that,

a proveo sam dosta vremena prošle nedelje radeći to

and it's not the same as this.

i nije isto kao ovo.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

If Mandela was the national and international embodiment,

Ako je Mandela bio nacionalno i internacionalno otelotvorenje,

then the man who taught me the most

onda je čovek koji me je najviše naučio lično o ovoj vrednosti bio ovaj čovek,

about this value personally was this man,

Solly Mhlongo.

Soli Mhlongo.

Solly was born under a tree

Soli je rođen pod drvetom

60 kilometers from where I grew up in Mozambique.

60 kilometra od mesta na kome sam ja odrastao u Mozambiku.

He would never have a lot of money,

On nikada neće imati mnogo novca,

but he was to be

ali je jedan od najbogatijih ljudi koje ću ikada sresti.

one of the richest men I would ever meet.

Solly grew up tending to his father's cattle.

Soli je odrastao starajući se o stoci svog oca.

Now, I can tell you, I don't know what it is about people who grow up looking after cattle,

Mogu vam reći, ne znam šta je to

kod ljudi koji su odrasli brinući se o stoci,

but it makes for über-resourcefulness.

ali daje im nadljudsku snalažljivost.

The first job that he ever got in the safari business

Prvi posao koji je dobio u poslu sa safarijem

was fixing the safari trucks.

bio je popravljanje safari kamiona.

Where he had learned to do that out in the bush

Gde je to naučio da radi u šumi,

I have no idea, but he could do it.

nemam pojma, ali umeo je to da radi.

He then moved across into what we called

Zatim je prešao u ono što nazivamo

the habitat team.

tim za staništa.

These were the people on the reserve

Tu su bili ljudi iz rezervata

koji su bili odgovorni za to da on bude u dobrom stanju.

who were responsible for its well-being.

He fixed roads, he mended wetlands,

Popravljao je puteve, sređivao močvare,

he did some anti-poaching.

borio se protiv krivolova.

And then one day we were out together,

Zatim je, jednog dana kada smo izašli zajedno,

and he came across the tracks of where a female leopard had walked.

naišao na tragove kuda je hodala ženka leoparda.

And it was an old track,

Bili su to stari tragovi,

but for fun he turned and he began to follow it,

ali je razonode radi počeo da ih prati,

and I tell you, I could tell by the speed

i mogu vam reći,

mogao sam da primetim po brzini kojom se kretao po tim otiscima,

at which he moved on those pad marks

that this man was a Ph.D.-level tracker.

da ovaj čovek može da doktorira na traganju.

If you drove past Solly

Ako biste prošli kolima pored Solija

somewhere out on the reserve,

negde u okviru rezervata

you look up in your rearview mirror,

i pogledali u retrovizor,

you'd see he'd stopped the car

videli biste da je zaustavio auto

20, 50 meters down the road

20, 50 metara niz put

just in case you need help with something.

za slučaj da vam treba neka pomoć.

The only accusation I ever heard leveled at him

Jedina pritužba koju sam ikada čuo da mu je neko uputio

je kada je jedan od naših klijenata rekao:

was when one of our clients said,

"Solly, you are pathologically helpful."

„Soli, ti si patološki uslužan.“

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

When I started professionally guiding people

Kada sam počeo da profesionalno vodim ljude

out into this environment,

kroz ovu sredinu,

Solly was my tracker.

Soli je bio moj tragač.

We worked together as a team.

Radili smo zajedno kao tim.

And the first guests we ever got

Prvi gosti koje smo imali

were a philanthropy group from your East Coast,

bila je grupa filantropa sa vaše istočne obale,

and they said to Solly, on the side, they said,

a oni su rekli Soliju, nezvanično:

"Before we even go out to see lions and leopards,

„Pre nego što krenemo da vidimo lavove i leoparde,

we want to see where you live."

hoćemo da vidimo gde živiš.“

So we took them up to his house,

Stoga smo ih odveli u njegovu kuću,

and this visit of the philanthropist to his house

a ta poseta filantropa njegovoj kući

coincided with a time when Solly's wife,

podudarila se sa periodom kada je Solijeva žena,

who was learning English,

koja je učila engleski,

was going through a phase where she would open the door

prolazila kroz fazu gde bi otvorila vrata rečima:

by saying, "Hello, I love you.

„Zdravo, volim te.

Welcome, I love you." (Laughter)

Dobrodošao, volim te.“ (Smeh)

And there was something so beautifully African

Za mene je u vezi sa tim postojalo nešto tako prelepo afrički,

about it to me, this small house

ta mala kuća sa velikim srcem u sebi.

with a huge heart in it.

Now on the day that Solly saved my life,

Na dan kada mi je Soli spasio šivot,

he was already my hero.

već je bio moj heroj.

It was a hot day,

Bio je vreo dan

and we found ourselves down by the river.

i našli smo se pokraj reke.

Because of the heat, I took my shoes off,

Zbog vrućine sam skinuo cipele,

and I rolled up my pants,

zavrnuo pantalone

and I walked into the water.

i zakoračio u vodu.

Solly remained on the bank.

Soli je ostao na obali.

The water was clear running over sand,

Voda je bila bistra dok je oticala preko peska.

and we turned and we began to make our way upstream.

Okrenuli smo se i počeli da se krećemo uzvodno.

And a few meters ahead of us,

Nekoliko metara ispred nas

there was a place where a tree had fallen out of the bank,

nalazilo se mesto gde je drvo palo sa obale,

and its branches were touching the water,

grane su mu dodirivale vodu

and it was shadowy.

i bilo je senovito.

And if had been a horror movie,

Da je to bio horor film,

people in the audience would have started saying,

ljudi iz publike bi počeli da govore:

"Don't go in there. Don't go in there." (Laughter)

„Ne idi tamo. Ne idi tamo.“ (Smeh)

And of course, the crocodile was in the shadows.

Naravno, krokodil je bio u senci.

Now the first thing that you notice when a crocodile hits you

Prva stvar koju primetite kada vas krokodil dohvati

is the ferocity of the bite.

je silina ujeda.

Wham! It hits me by my right leg.

Dohvatio mi je desnu nogu.

It pulls me. It turns. I throw my hand up. I'm able to grab a branch.

Vuče me. Okreće se. Dižem ruku gore. Uspevam da uhvatim granu.

It's shaking me violently.

Trese me žestoko.

It's a very strange sensation

Vrlo je čudan osećaj

having another creature try and eat you,

kada drugo stvorenje pokušava da vas pojede,

and there are few things that promote vegetarianism like that.

a retko šta može toliko da podstakne vegetarijanstvo.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

Solly on the bank sees that I'm in trouble.

Soli na obali vidi da sam u nevolji.

He turns. He begins to make his way to me.

Okreće se. Uspeva da dopre do mene.

The croc again continues to shake me.

Krokodil nastavlja da me trese.

It goes to bite me a second time.

Ujeda me po drugi put.

I notice a slick of blood in the water around me

Primećujem mrlju od krvi u vodi oko sebe

that gets washed downstream.

kako se ispira niz vodu.

As it bites the second time, I kick.

Pri drugom ujedu, šutiram.

My foot goes down its throat. It spits me out.

Stopalo mi kreće ka njegovom vratu. Ispljune me.

I pull myself up into the branches,

Povučem se u granje,

and as I come out of the water, I look over my shoulder.

a dok izlazim iz vode, gledam preko svog ramena.

My leg from the knee down

Noga mi je od kolena naniže

is mangled beyond description.

neopisivo unakažena.

The bone is cracked.

Kost je slomljena.

The meat is torn up.

Meso je pokidano.

I make an instant decision that I'll never look at that again.

U momentu donosim odluku da to neću ponovo da pogledam.

As I come out of the water,

Dok izlazim iz vode,

Solly arrives at a deep section,

Soli stiže u dublji deo,

a channel between us.

prolaz između nas.

He knows, he sees the state of my leg,

Vidi u kakvom je stanju moja noga,

he knows that between him and I

zna da se između njega i mene

there is a crocodile,

nalazi krokodil

and I can tell you this man doesn't slow down for one second.

i mogu vam reći da nije usporio ni sekundu.

He comes straight into the channel.

Ulazi pravo u prolaz.

He wades in to above his waist.

Zagazio je preko pojasa.

He gets to me. He grabs me.

Stiže do mene. Uzima me.

I'm still in a vulnerable position.

Još sam u ranjivom položaju.

He picks me and puts me on his shoulder.

Podiže me i stavlja na svoje rame.

This is the other thing about Solly, he's freakishly strong.

To je druga stvar vezana za Solija, nenormalno je jak.

He turns. He walks me up the bank.

Okreće se. Donosi me na obalu.

He lays me down. He pulls his shirt off.

Polaže me da legem. Skida svoju košulju.

He wraps it around my leg,

Obavija mi je oko noge,

picks me up a second time,

podiže me po drugi put,

walks me to a vehicle,

nosi me u vozilo,

and he's able to get me to medical attention.

uspeva da me odvede da dobijem medicinsku pomoć

And I survive.

i ja preživim.

Now — (Applause)

(Aplauz)

Now I don't know how many people you know

Ne znam koliko ljudi znate

that go into a deep channel of water

koji ulaze u duboko vodeno korito

that they know has a crocodile in it

u kome znaju da je krokodil

to come and help you,

da bi došli da vam pomognu,

but for Solly, it was as natural as breathing.

ali za Solija je to bilo prirodno koliko i disanje.

And he is one amazing example

On je jedan od sjajnih primera

of what I have experienced all over Africa.

onoga što sam doživeo kroz celu Afriku.

In a more collective society,

U društvu koje je više kolektivno,

we realize from the inside

shvatamo iznutra

that our own well-being is deeply tied

da je naša dobrobit duboko vezana

to the well-being of others.

za dobrobit drugih.

Danger is shared. Pain is shared.

Delimo opasnost. Delimo bol.

Joy is shared. Achievement is shared.

Delimo radost. Delimo uspeh.

Houses are shared. Food is shared.

Delimo kuće. Delimo hranu.

Ubuntu asks us to open our hearts

Ubuntu traži od nas da otvorimo srce

and to share,

i da delimo,

and what Solly taught me that day

a ono čemu me je Soli naučio tog dana

is the essence of this value,

je suština te vrednosti,

his animated, empathetic action

njegovi životni, empatijski postupci

in every moment.

u svakom trenutku.

Now although the root word is about people,

Mada se koren reči odnosi na ljude,

I thought that maybe ubuntu was only about people.

mislio sam da je ubuntu vezan samo za ljude.

And then I met this young lady.

Onda sam upoznao ovu mladu damu.

Her name was Elvis.

Zove se Elvis.

In fact, Solly gave her the name Elvis

Zapravo, Soli joj je dao ime Elvis

because he said she walked like she was doing

zato što je govorio da hoda kao da izvodi

the Elvis the pelvis dance.

Elvisov karlični ples.

She was born with very badly deformed back legs and pelvis.

Rođena je sa vrlo deformisanim zadnjim nogama i karlicom.

She arrived at our reserve from a reserve

Stigla je u naš rezervat iz rezervata

east of us on her migratory route.

istočno od nas, na svom migracionom putu.

When I first saw her,

Kada sam je prvi put video,

I thought she would be dead in a matter of days.

mislio sam da je pitanje dana kada će umreti.

And yet, for the next five years

Ipak, narednih pet godina

she returned in the winter months.

vraćala se u zimskim mesecima.

And we would be so excited to be out in the bush

Bili smo tako uzbuđeni kada smo u šumi

and to come across this unusual track.

i kada naiđemo na taj neobičan trag.

It looked like an inverted bracket,

Izgledao je kao obrnuta zagrada.

and we would drop whatever we were doing and we would follow,

Ostavili bismo šta god da smo radili i pratili bismo ga,

and then we would come around the corner,

a onda bismo došli iza ćoška,

and there she would be with her herd.

gde je ona bila sa krdom.

And that outpouring of emotion

Taj izliv emocija

from people on our safari trucks

ljudi u safari vozilima

as they saw her, it was this sense of kinship.

kada bi je videli, to je bio taj osećaj bliskosti.

And it reminded me

To me je podsetilo

that even people who grow up in cities

da čak i ljudi koji odrastu u gradovima

feel a natural connection

osećaju prirodnu povezanost

with the natural world and with animals.

sa svetom prirode i životinjama.

And yet still I remained amazed that she was surviving.

Međutim, i dalje sam bio zapanjen time što je preživela.

And then one day we came across them at this small water hole.

Zatim smo jednog dana naišli na njih pokraj male rupe sa vodom.

It was sort of a hollow in the ground.

To je bilo nekakvo udubljenje u zemlji.

And I watched as the matriarch drank,

Posmatrao sam kako matrijarh pije,

and then she turned in that beautiful slow motion of elephants,

a tada se okrenula onim prelepim usporenim pokretom slonova,

looks like the arm in motion,

izgleda kao da se ruka kreće,

and she began to make her way up the steep bank.

i počela da se uspinje uz strmu obalu.

The rest of the herd turned and began to follow.

Ostatak krda se okrenuo i počeo da je sledi.

And I watched young Elvis

Gledao sam kako mlada Elvis

begin to psych herself up for the hill.

počinje da se priprema za penjanje.

She got visibly -- ears came forward,

Videlo se na njoj - uši su postale isturene napred,

she had a full go of it and halfway up,

krenula je svom snagom do pola puta,

her legs gave way, and she fell backwards.

kada su je noge izdale i pala je pozadi.

She attempted it a second time,

Pokušala je drugi put

and again, halfway up, she fell backwards.

i opet je pala unazad na pola puta.

And on the third attempt,

Pri trećem pokušaju,

an amazing thing happened.

nešto neverovatno se dogodilo.

Halfway up the bank,

Na pola puta uz obalu,

a young teenage elephant came in behind her,

mladi slon tinejdžer je prišao iza nje,

and he propped his trunk underneath her,

podupreo surlu ispod nje

and he began to shovel her up the bank.

i krenuo da je nosi uz obalu.

And it occurred to me

Sinulo mi je

that the rest of the herd

da je ostatak krda

zapravo brinuo o toj mladoj slonici.

was in fact looking after this young elephant.

The next day I watched again

Sledećeg dana sam ponovo posmatrao

as the matriarch broke a branch

kako matrijarh lomi granu

and she would put it in her mouth,

i stavlja je u usta,

and then she would break a second one

a zatim lomi drugu

and drop it on the ground.

i baca je na zemlju.

And a consensus developed between all of us

Svi mi koji smo vodili ljude u toj oblasti bili smo saglasni

who were guiding people in that area

that that herd was in fact moving slower

da se to krdo zapravo sporije kreće

to accommodate that elephant.

da bi se prilagodili toj slonici.

What Elvis and the herd taught me

Ono što sam naučio od Elvis i krda

caused me to expand my definition of ubuntu,

dovelo je do toga da proširim svoju definiciju ubuntua,

and I believe that in the cathedral of the wild,

a verujem da na svetom prostoru divljine

we get to see the most beautiful parts of ourselves

imamo mogućnost da vidimo najlepše delove sebe

reflected back at us.

kako se odbijaju ka nama.

And it is not only through other people

Ne doživljavamo našu čovečnost samo kroz druge ljude,

that we get to experience our humanity

but through all the creatures that live on this planet.

već kroz sva stvorenja koja žive na ovoj planeti.

If Africa has a gift to share,

Ako Afrika ima dar koji može da podeli,

it's a gift of a more collective society.

to je dar kolektivnijeg društva.

And while it's true that ubuntu is an African idea,

Iako je tačno da je ubuntu afrička ideja,

what I see is the essence of that value

ja smatram da je suština te vrednosti

being invented here.

osmišljena ovde.

Thank you.

Hvala.

(Aplauz)

(Applause)

Pat Mitchell: So Boyd,

Pet Mičel: Dakle, Bojd,

we know that you knew President Mandela

znamo da si poznavao predsednika Mandelu

from early childhood

od ranog detinjstva

and that you heard the news as we all did today,

i da si čuo vesti, kao i svi mi danas,

and deeply distraught

da si duboko uzrujan

and know the tragic loss that it is to the world.

i da znaš kakav to tragični gubitak predstavlja za svet.

But I just wondered if you wanted

Samo sam se pitala da li želiš

to share any additional thoughts,

da dodatno podeliš neke misli,

because we know that you heard that news

jer svi znamo da si čuo te vesti

just before coming in to do this session.

par trenutaka pre dolaska na ovu sesiju.

Boyd Varty: Well thanks, Pat.

Bojd Varti: Pa, hvala, Pet.

I'm so happy because it was time for him to pass on.

Srećan sam jer je bilo vreme da on nastavi dalje.

He was suffering.

Patio je.

And so of course there's the mixed emotions.

Naravno, tu su pomešana osećanja.

But I just think of so many occurrences

Mislim na toliko mnogo situacija,

like the time he went on the Oprah show

kao onda kada je gostovao u Oprinoj emisiji

and asked her what the show would be about.

i pitao je o čemu će emisija biti.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

And she was like, "Well, it'll be about you."

A ona je rekla: „Pa, biće o tebi.“

I mean, that's just incredible humility.

Mislim, to je zaista neverovatno skromno.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

He was the father of our nation

Bio je otac naše nacije

and we've got a road to walk in South Africa.

i pred nama u Južnoj Africi je put.

And everything, they used to call it Madiba magic.

Sve to, nekada su to nazivali „Madibina magija“.

You know, he used to go to a rugby match and we would win.

Znate, on bi otišao na ragbi meč i mi bismo pobedili.

Anywhere he went, things went well.

Gde god bi otišao, sve bi išlo dobro.

But I think that magic will be with us,

Ipak, mislim da će ta magija biti sa nama

and the important thing is that we carry

i da je važno da nosimo u sebi

what he stood for.

ono za šta se on zalagao.

And so that's what I'm going to try and do,

To je ono što ću pokušati da uradim,

and that's what people all over South Africa are trying to do.

i to je ono što ljudi širom Južne Afrike pokušavaju da urade.

PM: And that's what you've done today. BV: Oh, thank you.

PM: I to je ono što si uradio danas. BV: O, hvala.

PM: Thank you. BV: Thank you. Thanks very much.

PM: Hvala. BV: Hvala. Hvala vam puno.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)