Boyd Varty: What I learned from Nelson Mandela

Translator: Heda Adamisinova Reviewer: Ivana Kopisova

I'm a man who's trying to live from his heart,

Som človek, ktorý sa snaží žiť podľa svojho srdca,

and so just before I get going,

a preto skôr ako začnem,

I wanted to tell you as a South African

by som Vám ako Juhoafričan chcel povedať,

that one of the men who has inspired me most

že jeden z ľudí, ktorí ma najviac inšpirovali,

passed away a few hours ago.

zomrel pred pár hodinami.

Nelson Mandela has come to the end

Nelson Mandela prišiel ku koncu

of his long walk to freedom.

svojej cesty za slobodou.

And so this talk is going to be for him.

A preto bude táto reč venovaná venovaná jemu.

I grew up in wonder.

Vyrastal som v úžase.

I grew up amongst those animals.

Vyrastal som medzi týmito zvieratami.

I grew up in the wild eastern part of South Africa

Vyrastal som v divokej východnej časti Južnej Afriky,

at a place called Londolozi Game Reserve.

na mieste zvanom Prírodná rezervácia Londolozi.

It's a place where my family has been

Je to miesto, kde moja rodina podnikala

in the safari business for four generations.

po štyri generácie v odvetví safari.

Now for as long as I can remember,

Odkedy mi pamäť siaha,

my job has been to take people out into nature,

mojou prácou bolo brať ľudí von do prírody,

and so I think it's a lovely twist of fate today

a tak si myslím, že je to roztomilý vrtoch osudu

to have the opportunity

dostať dnes možnosť

to bring some of my experiences out in nature

priniesť niektoré moje skúseností z prírody

in to this gathering.

tomuto zhromaždeniu.

Africa is a place

Afrika je miesto,

where people still sit under starlit skies

kde ľudia ešte stále sedia pod hviezdnou oblohou

and around campfires and tell stories,

a okolo táboráka si rozprávajú príbehy,

and so what I have to share with you today

a tak to, s čím sa s vami dnes podelím,

is the simple medicine of a few campfire stories,

je jednoduchý liek niekoľkých táborákových príbehov.

stories about heroes of heart.

Príbehov o hrdinstve srdca.

Now my stories are not the stories

Moje príbehy nie su príbehy,

that you'll hear on the news,

ktoré môžete počuť v správach,

and while it's true that Africa is a harsh place,

a i keď je pravda, že Afrika je neľútostné miesto,

I also know it to be a place

ja ju poznám aj ako miesto,

where people, animals and ecosystems

kde nás ľudia, zvieratá a ekosystémy

teach us about a more interconnected world.

učia o užšom prepojení sveta.

When I was nine years old,

Keď som mal 9 rokov,

President Mandela came to stay with my family.

prezident Mandela prišiel bývať k mojej rodine.

He had just been released from his 27 years of incarceration,

Bolo to práve po jeho oslobodení z 27-ročného väzenia

and was in a period of readjustment

a bolo to obdobie prispôsobenia sa

to his sudden global icon status.

jeho náhlemu statusu globálnej ikony.

Members of the African National Congress

Členovia Afrického národného kongresu

thought that in the bush

si mysleli, že v divočine

he would have time to rest and recuperate

bude mať čas si odpočinúť a zotaviť sa

away from the public eye,

ďaleko od dohľadu verejnosti,

and it's true that lions tend to be

a je pravdou, že levy zvyknú byť

a very good deterrent to press and paparazzi.

veľmi účinným odstrašujúcim prostriedkom pre tlač a paparazzov.

(Laughter)

(smiech)

But it was a defining time for me as a young boy.

No pre mňa, ako mladého chlapca, to bolo kľúčové obdobie.

I would take him breakfast in bed,

Nosil som mu raňajky do postele,

and then, in an old track suit and slippers,

a potom, v rozťahaných teplákoch a papučiach,

he would go for a walk around the garden.

sa chodil prechádzať po záhrade.

At night, I would sit with my family

Po večeroch som sedával s rodinou

around the snowy, bunny-eared TV,

pred snežiacou anténovou televíziou,

and watch images of that same

a pozeral sa na obraz toho istého

quiet man from the garden

tichého muža zo záhrady

surrounded by hundreds and thousands of people

obklopeného stovkami a tisíckami ľudí.

as scenes from his release were broadcast nightly.

Scény z jeho oslobodenia sa vysielali každý večer.

He was bringing peace

Prinášal mier

to a divided and violent South Africa,

do rozdelenej a násilnej Južnej Afriky,

one man with an unbelievable sense of his humanity.

jeden muž s neuveriteľným citom pre ľudskosť.

Mandela said often that the gift of prison

Mandela často hovorieval, že darom väzenia

was the ability to go within and to think,

bola schopnosť obrátiť sa do seba a myslieť,

to create in himself

tvoriť vo svojom vnútri

the things he most wanted for South Africa:

veci, ktoré chcel najviac pre Južnú Afriku:

peace, reconciliation, harmony.

mier, udobrenie, harmóniu.

Through this act of immense open-heartedness,

Prostredníctvom tohto ohromného činu so srdcom na dlani

he was to become the embodiment

sa stal stelesnením

of what in South Africa we call "ubuntu."

toho, čo v Južnej Afrike nazývame „ubuntu“.

Ubuntu: I am because of you.

Ubuntu: Som, pretože si.

Or, people are not people

Alebo ľudia nie sú ľuďmi

without other people.

bez iných ľudí.

It's not a new idea or value

Nie je to nová idea alebo hodnota,

but it's one that I certainly think at these times

ale je to niečo, na čom, myslím, sa v týchto časoch

is worth building on.

rozhodne oplatí stavať.

In fact, it is said that in the collective consciousness of Africa,

V skutočnosti sa hovorí, že v kolektívnom vedomí Afriky

we get to experience the deepest parts

prežijeme najhlbšie poznanie

of our own humanity

našej vlastnej ľudskosti

through our interactions with others.

prostredníctvom našej interakcie s ostatnými.

Ubuntu is at play right now.

Ubuntu je v hre aj teraz.

You are holding a space for me

Ponúkate mi priestor na to,

to express the deepest truth of who I am.

aby som vyjadril najhlbšiu pravdu o tom, kto som.

Without you, I'm just a guy talking to an empty room,

Bez vás som len chlapík, ktorý sa snaží rozprávať v prázdnej izbe,

and I spent a lot of time last week doing that,

tak som strávil veľa času minulý týždeň

and it's not the same as this.

a nie je to to isté.

(Laughter)

(smiech)

If Mandela was the national and international embodiment,

Ak bol Mandela národným a medzinárodným stelesnením,

then the man who taught me the most

potom muž, ktorý ma osobne naučil

about this value personally was this man,

najviac o tejto hodnote, bol tento muž,

Solly Mhlongo.

Solly Mhlongo.

Solly was born under a tree

Solly sa narodil pod stromom

60 kilometers from where I grew up in Mozambique.

60 km od Mozambiku, miesta, kde som vyrastal.

He would never have a lot of money,

Nikdy nemal veľa peňazí,

but he was to be

ale bol

one of the richest men I would ever meet.

jedným z najbohatších ľudí, ktorých som stretol.

Solly grew up tending to his father's cattle.

Solly vyrastal starajúc sa o otcov dobytok.

Now, I can tell you, I don't know what it is about people who grow up looking after cattle,

Môžem vám povedať, že neviem, čo je na ľuďoch, ktorí sa vyrastajúc starajú o dobytok,

but it makes for über-resourcefulness.

ale je to niečo ako super-vynaliezavosť.

The first job that he ever got in the safari business

Jeho prvou prácou v safari podnikaní

was fixing the safari trucks.

bolo opravovať safari nákladiaky.

Where he had learned to do that out in the bush

Kde sa to v tej divočine naučil,

I have no idea, but he could do it.

nemám predstavu, ale dokázal to.

He then moved across into what we called

Potom prešiel k takzvanému

the habitat team.

tímu prirodzeného prostredia.

These were the people on the reserve

Boli to ľudia rezervácie,

who were responsible for its well-being.

ktorí sa o ňu starali.

He fixed roads, he mended wetlands,

Opravoval cesty, dohliadal na bažiny,

he did some anti-poaching.

bojoval proti pytliactvu.

And then one day we were out together,

A potom sme jeden deň boli spolu vonku

and he came across the tracks of where a female leopard had walked.

a natrafil sme na stopy leopardej samice, ktorá tadiaľ prešla.

And it was an old track,

A bola to stará stopa,

but for fun he turned and he began to follow it,

ale pre srandu sa otočil a začal ju sledovať,

and I tell you, I could tell by the speed

a poviem vám, že podľa rýchlosti,

at which he moved on those pad marks

akou sa pohyboval po tých stopách,

that this man was a Ph.D.-level tracker.

by som povedal, že tento človek mal doktorát zo stopovania.

If you drove past Solly

Ak ste prešli okolo Sollyho

somewhere out on the reserve,

niekde vonku v rezervácii,

you look up in your rearview mirror,

pozreli ste sa do spätného zrkadla,

you'd see he'd stopped the car

videli ste zastaviť auto

20, 50 meters down the road

20, 50 metrov za vami

just in case you need help with something.

len pre prípad, že by ste potrebovali s niečím pomôcť.

The only accusation I ever heard leveled at him

Jediné obvinenie, ktoré som kedy počul na jeho adresu

was when one of our clients said,

bolo, keď jeden z našich klientov povedal,

"Solly, you are pathologically helpful."

„Solly, ty si patologicky nápomocný.“

(Laughter)

(smiech)

When I started professionally guiding people

Keď som začal profesionálne sprevádzať ľudí

out into this environment,

do tohto prostredia,

Solly was my tracker.

Solly bol môj stopár.

We worked together as a team.

Pracovali sme spolu ako tím.

And the first guests we ever got

Našimi prvými hosťami

were a philanthropy group from your East Coast,

bola filantropická spoločnosť z vášho Východného pobrežia,

and they said to Solly, on the side, they said,

a oni povedali Sollymu,

"Before we even go out to see lions and leopards,

„Predtým ako sa vyberieme von pozrieť sa na levov a leopardov,

we want to see where you live."

chceli by sme vidieť, kde bývaš .“

So we took them up to his house,

Tak sme ich vzali k nemu domov,

and this visit of the philanthropist to his house

a táto návšteva filantrópov v jeho dome

coincided with a time when Solly's wife,

bola zhodou okolností v dobe, keď sa Sollyho manželka

who was learning English,

učila anglicky.

was going through a phase where she would open the door

Prechádzala obdobím, keď otvárala dvere

by saying, "Hello, I love you.

hovoriac, „Ahoj, ľúbim vás.

Welcome, I love you." (Laughter)

Vitajte, ľúbim vás.“ (smiech)

And there was something so beautifully African

A pre mňa na tom bolo niečo krásne africké

about it to me, this small house

v tomto malom dome

with a huge heart in it.

s tak veľkým srdcom vo vnútri.

Now on the day that Solly saved my life,

Už dávno pred dňom, keď mi Solly zachránil život,

he was already my hero.

bol mojim hrdinom.

It was a hot day,

Bol teplý deň

and we found ourselves down by the river.

a my sme sa ocitli dole pri rieke.

Because of the heat, I took my shoes off,

Pre horúčavu som si vyzul topánky,

and I rolled up my pants,

vykasal nohavice

and I walked into the water.

a vošiel som do vody.

Solly remained on the bank.

Solly ostal na brehu.

The water was clear running over sand,

Priezračná voda tiekla po piesku

and we turned and we began to make our way upstream.

a my sme otočili a vyrazili hore prúdom.

And a few meters ahead of us,

Pár metrov pred nami

there was a place where a tree had fallen out of the bank,

bolo miesto, na ktorom bol spadnutý strom,

and its branches were touching the water,

jeho konáre sa dotýkali vody

and it was shadowy.

a bol tam tieň.

And if had been a horror movie,

A keby sme boli v hororovom filme,

people in the audience would have started saying,

ľuďia v publiku by začali vravieť,

"Don't go in there. Don't go in there." (Laughter)

„Nechoď tam. Nechoď tam.“ (smiech)

And of course, the crocodile was in the shadows.

A samozrejme, krokodíl bol v tieni.

Now the first thing that you notice when a crocodile hits you

Prvé, čo si všimnete, keď na vás zaútočí krokodíl,

is the ferocity of the bite.

je dravosť jeho hryznutia.

Wham! It hits me by my right leg.

Ham! Kusol do mojej pravej nohy.

It pulls me. It turns. I throw my hand up. I'm able to grab a branch.

Ťahal ma. Otočil ma. Rozhodil som rukami. Dokážem sa zachytiť o konár.

It's shaking me violently.

Zúrivo mnou trasie.

It's a very strange sensation

Je to veľmi divný pocit,

having another creature try and eat you,

keď sa vás iné stvorenie snaží zjesť

and there are few things that promote vegetarianism like that.

a existuje len málo vecí, ktoré podporujú vegetariástvo takýmto spôsobom.

(Laughter)

(smiech)

Solly on the bank sees that I'm in trouble.

Solly na brehu zbadal, že som v kaši.

He turns. He begins to make his way to me.

Otočil sa. Vybral sa mojím smerom.

The croc again continues to shake me.

Krokodíl naďalej so mnou trasie.

It goes to bite me a second time.

Chystal sa do mňa zahryznúť druhý krát.

I notice a slick of blood in the water around me

Zbadal som krvavú škvrnu vo vode,

that gets washed downstream.

ktorá sa zmývala dole prúdom.

As it bites the second time, I kick.

Vo chvíli, keď ma pohrýzol druhýkrát, kopol som.

My foot goes down its throat. It spits me out.

Moja noha mu vošla až do hrdla. Vypľuľ ma.

I pull myself up into the branches,

Vytiahol som sa po konároch,

and as I come out of the water, I look over my shoulder.

a ako som vychádzal z vody, obzrel som sa cez plece.

My leg from the knee down

Moja noha od kolena dole

is mangled beyond description.

je neopísateľne znetvorená.

The bone is cracked.

Kosť je zlomená.

The meat is torn up.

Mäso roztrhané.

I make an instant decision that I'll never look at that again.

Spravil som okamžité rozhodnutie, že sa už na to nikdy nepozriem.

As I come out of the water,

Keď som vyliezal z vody,

Solly arrives at a deep section,

Solly došiel k hlbokému úseku,

a channel between us.

ku žľabu medzi nami.

He knows, he sees the state of my leg,

On vie, videl moju nohu,

he knows that between him and I

vie, že medzi ním a mnou

there is a crocodile,

je krokodíl,

and I can tell you this man doesn't slow down for one second.

a môžem vám povedať, že tento muž nespomalil ani na sekundu.

He comes straight into the channel.

Prišiel priamo do žľabu.

He wades in to above his waist.

Brodil sa až po pás.

He gets to me. He grabs me.

Došiel až ku mne. Schmatol ma.

I'm still in a vulnerable position.

Ešte stále som vo veľmi zraniteľnej pozícii.

He picks me and puts me on his shoulder.

Zdvihne ma a prehodí si ma cez plece.

This is the other thing about Solly, he's freakishly strong.

To je ďalší fakt o Sollym, je obludne silný.

He turns. He walks me up the bank.

Obráti sa. A prenesie ma na breh.

He lays me down. He pulls his shirt off.

Položí ma. Vyzlečie si tričko.

He wraps it around my leg,

Previaže mi ním nohu,

picks me up a second time,

dvihne ma druhýkrát,

walks me to a vehicle,

odnáša ma do auta

and he's able to get me to medical attention.

a nakoniec zoženie lekársku pomoc.

And I survive.

A ja som prežil.

Now — (Applause)

Teraz - (potlesk)

Now I don't know how many people you know

Ja neviem koľko ľudí, ktorých poznáte,

that go into a deep channel of water

by šlo do hlbokého žľabu,

that they know has a crocodile in it

keby vedeli, že je tam krokodíl,

to come and help you,

aby vám pomohli,

but for Solly, it was as natural as breathing.

ale pre Sollyho, to bolo také prirodzené ako dýchanie.

And he is one amazing example

A on je jeden úžasný príklad toho,

of what I have experienced all over Africa.

čo som zakúsil po celej Afrike.

In a more collective society,

V kolektívnejšej spoločnosti

we realize from the inside

si z hĺbky uvedomíme,

that our own well-being is deeply tied

že naše blaho je úzko prepojené

to the well-being of others.

s blahom ostatných.

Danger is shared. Pain is shared.

Nebezpečenstvo je spoločné. Bolesť je spoločná.

Joy is shared. Achievement is shared.

Radosť je spoločná. Úspech je spoločný.

Houses are shared. Food is shared.

Domy sú spoločné. Jedlo je spoločné.

Ubuntu asks us to open our hearts

Ubuntu nám vraví, aby sme otvorili srdcia

and to share,

a rozdelili sa

and what Solly taught me that day

a to, čo ma naučil Solly v ten deň,

is the essence of this value,

je podstata tejto hodnoty.

his animated, empathetic action

Jeho oduševnelé, empatické konanie

in every moment.

v každom momente.

Now although the root word is about people,

Pretože koreň slova je o ľuďoch,

I thought that maybe ubuntu was only about people.

myslel som si, že asi aj ubuntu bude len o ľuďoch.

And then I met this young lady.

A potom som stretol túto mladú dámu.

Her name was Elvis.

Volala sa Elvis.

In fact, Solly gave her the name Elvis

V skutočnosti ju tak pomenoval Solly,

because he said she walked like she was doing

pretože vraj chodila akoby

the Elvis the pelvis dance.

tancovala Elvisov panvový tanec.

She was born with very badly deformed back legs and pelvis.

Narodila sa s veľmi škaredo zdeformovanými nohami a panvou.

She arrived at our reserve from a reserve

Došla do našej rezervácie počas migrovania

east of us on her migratory route.

z východnej rezervácie.

When I first saw her,

Keď som ju prvýkrát zbadal,

I thought she would be dead in a matter of days.

myslel som si, že zomrie a je to len otázka dní.

And yet, for the next five years

A predsa. Počas nasledujúcich piatich rokov

she returned in the winter months.

sa vracala v zimných mesiacoch.

And we would be so excited to be out in the bush

A my sme boli tak nadšení, keď sme boli v divočine

and to come across this unusual track.

a natrafili sme na túto nezvyčajnú stopu.

It looked like an inverted bracket,

Podobalo sa to na obrátené zátvorky,

and we would drop whatever we were doing and we would follow,

a my sme nechali tak čokoľvek sme robili a pustili sme sa do sledovania

and then we would come around the corner,

a potom niekde za rohom

and there she would be with her herd.

bola ona so svojim stádom.

And that outpouring of emotion

A ten príliv emócií

from people on our safari trucks

z ľudí na našich safari nákladiakoch,

as they saw her, it was this sense of kinship.

keď ju videli – to bol ten pocit spriaznenosti.

And it reminded me

A to mi pripomínalo,

that even people who grow up in cities

že i keď ľudia vyrastajú v mestách,

feel a natural connection

predsa len cítia to spojenie

with the natural world and with animals.

s prirodzeným svetom a so zvieratami.

And yet still I remained amazed that she was surviving.

A predsa som v úžase nad tým, že prežila.

And then one day we came across them at this small water hole.

Na ďalší deň sme ich stretli pri malom napájadle.

It was sort of a hollow in the ground.

Bola to iba taká priehlbina v zemi.

And I watched as the matriarch drank,

A pozeral som ako sa napája vodkyňa stáda,

and then she turned in that beautiful slow motion of elephants,

a potom sa otočila tým krásnym pomalým pohybom slonov,

looks like the arm in motion,

ktorý vyzerá ako pohyb ramenom,

and she began to make her way up the steep bank.

a vybrala sa smerom hore po strmom brehu.

The rest of the herd turned and began to follow.

Zvyšok stáda sa otočil a nasledoval ju.

And I watched young Elvis

A ja som sa díval na mladú Elvis,

begin to psych herself up for the hill.

ako sa odhodláva na strmý kopec.

She got visibly -- ears came forward,

Viditeľne dvihla uši,

she had a full go of it and halfway up,

išlo jej to do polovice cesty,

her legs gave way, and she fell backwards.

jej nohy to vzdali a ona sa zosunula dole.

She attempted it a second time,

Skúsila to druhýkrát

and again, halfway up, she fell backwards.

a opäť v polovičke cesty hore sa zosunula dole.

And on the third attempt,

Na tretí pokus,

an amazing thing happened.

sa stala úžasná vec.

Halfway up the bank,

Na pol ceste hore brehom

a young teenage elephant came in behind her,

sa za ňu postavil mladý slon

and he propped his trunk underneath her,

a postrčil ju svojím chobotom,

and he began to shovel her up the bank.

a tak ju popostrkoval hore brehom.

And it occurred to me

A vtedy mi napadlo,

that the rest of the herd

že zvyšok stáda

was in fact looking after this young elephant.

vlastne dohliadal nad týmto mladým slonom.

The next day I watched again

Na druhý deň som sa opäť pozeral,

as the matriarch broke a branch

ako vodkyňa stáda zlomila konár

and she would put it in her mouth,

a dala jej ho do úst

and then she would break a second one

a potom zlomila druhý

and drop it on the ground.

a pustila ho na zem.

And a consensus developed between all of us

Medzi nami – sprievodcami v tejto oblasti – zavládol

who were guiding people in that area

všeobecný súhlas,

that that herd was in fact moving slower

že toto stádo sa vlastne pohybovalo pomalšie,

to accommodate that elephant.

aby sa prispôsobilo tomu slonovi.

What Elvis and the herd taught me

Čo ma Elvis so svojim stádom naučila,

caused me to expand my definition of ubuntu,

zapríčinilo, že som rozšíril moju definíciu ubuntu

and I believe that in the cathedral of the wild,

a verím, že vo svätyni divočiny

we get to see the most beautiful parts of ourselves

sa odzrkadľujú naše

reflected back at us.

najkrajšie vlastnosti.

And it is not only through other people

A nie je to len prostredníctvom iných ľudí,

that we get to experience our humanity

že zažívame našu ľudskú prirodzenosť,

but through all the creatures that live on this planet.

ale prostredníctvom všetkých stvorení, ktoré žijú na tejto planéte.

If Africa has a gift to share,

Ak má Afrika dar,

it's a gift of a more collective society.

tak je to dar kolektívnejšej spoločnosti.

And while it's true that ubuntu is an African idea,

A i keď je pravda, že ubuntu je africká myšlienka,

what I see is the essence of that value

dôležitá je práve podstata tejto hodnoty,

being invented here.

ktorá tu bola objavená.

Thank you.

Ďakujem.

(Applause)

(potlesk)

Pat Mitchell: So Boyd,

Pat Mitchell: Tak Boyd,

we know that you knew President Mandela

vieme, že si poznal prezidenta Mandelu

from early childhood

od útleho detstva

and that you heard the news as we all did today,

a že si dnes počul správy, tak ako my,

and deeply distraught

a si hlboko rozrušený

and know the tragic loss that it is to the world.

a vieš o tragickej strate, ktorú to pre tento svet znamená.

But I just wondered if you wanted

Ale rozmýšľala som, či by si sa nechcel

to share any additional thoughts,

podeliť o nejaké ďalšie dodatočné myšlienky,

because we know that you heard that news

lebo vieme, že si sa o tej správe dozvedel

just before coming in to do this session.

tesne pred tým, ako si prišiel na javisko.

Boyd Varty: Well thanks, Pat.

Boyd Varty: Ďakujem, Pat.

I'm so happy because it was time for him to pass on.

Som šťastný, lebo prišiel jeho čas.

He was suffering.

Trpel.

And so of course there's the mixed emotions.

A tak samozrejme, mám zmiešané pocity.

But I just think of so many occurrences

Ale si pamätám toľko veľa príhod.

like the time he went on the Oprah show

Ako keď bol hosťom v Oprah show

and asked her what the show would be about.

a spýtal sa jej, o čom táto show bude.

(Laughter)

(smiech)

And she was like, "Well, it'll be about you."

A ona odpovedala: „No, bude o vás.“

I mean, that's just incredible humility.

Chcem povedať, že to je neuveriteľná pokora.

(Laughter)

(smiech)

He was the father of our nation

On bol otcom nášho národa

and we've got a road to walk in South Africa.

a my v Južnej Afrike máme pred sebou cestu.

And everything, they used to call it Madiba magic.

A všetko, čo nazývajú Madiba kúzlom.

You know, he used to go to a rugby match and we would win.

Viete, keď šiel na zápas ragby, vyhrali sme.

Anywhere he went, things went well.

Kamkoľvek šiel, darilo sa.

But I think that magic will be with us,

Ale myslím si, že toto kúzlo bude s nami,

and the important thing is that we carry

a dôležité je, aby sme uchovali to,

what he stood for.

čo symbolizoval.

And so that's what I'm going to try and do,

A preto sa tak aj ja budem snažiť konať,

and that's what people all over South Africa are trying to do.

a snažia sa o to ľudia z celej Južnej Afriky.

PM: And that's what you've done today. BV: Oh, thank you.

PM: A to si dnes aj spravil. BV: O, ďakujem.

PM: Thank you. BV: Thank you. Thanks very much.

PM: Ďakujem. BV: Ďakujem. Ďakujem pekne.

(Applause)

(potlesk)