Boyd Varty: What I learned from Nelson Mandela

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Prevoditelj: Katarina Smetko Recezent: Marija Marčetić
00:12
I'm a man who's trying to live from his heart,
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Ja sam čovjek koji nastoji živjeti iz srca
00:16
and so just before I get going,
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i zato, prije nego počnem,
00:19
I wanted to tell you as a South African
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želim vam reći, kao Južnoafrikanac,
00:21
that one of the men who has inspired me most
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da je jedan od ljudi koji su me najviše nadahnuli,
00:24
passed away a few hours ago.
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preminuo prije nekoliko sati.
00:27
Nelson Mandela has come to the end
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Nelson Mandela došao je do kraja
00:30
of his long walk to freedom.
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svojeg dugog puta do slobode.
00:33
And so this talk is going to be for him.
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Ovaj će govor biti za njega.
00:40
I grew up in wonder.
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Odrastao sam zadivljen.
00:43
I grew up amongst those animals.
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Odrastao sam među ovim životinjama.
00:47
I grew up in the wild eastern part of South Africa
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Odrastao sam u divljem istočnom dijelu Južne Afrike
00:51
at a place called Londolozi Game Reserve.
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u Rezervatu za divlje životinje Londolozi.
00:54
It's a place where my family has been
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Ondje moja obitelj
00:57
in the safari business for four generations.
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već četiri generacije organizira safarije.
01:01
Now for as long as I can remember,
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Otkad znam za sebe
01:03
my job has been to take people out into nature,
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posao mi je da ljude vodim u prirodu
01:08
and so I think it's a lovely twist of fate today
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i mislim da sam divnim spletom okolnosti
01:11
to have the opportunity
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dobio priliku
01:13
to bring some of my experiences out in nature
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predstaviti neka od svojih iskustava u prirodi
01:16
in to this gathering.
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na ovom skupu.
01:18
Africa is a place
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Afrika je mjesto
01:20
where people still sit under starlit skies
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gdje ljudi još uvijek sjede pod zvjezdanim nebom
01:23
and around campfires and tell stories,
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i oko vatre i pričaju priče
01:27
and so what I have to share with you today
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pa bih danas s vama podijelio
01:29
is the simple medicine of a few campfire stories,
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jednostavan lijek nekolicine takvih priča,
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stories about heroes of heart.
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priča o junacima u srcu.
01:37
Now my stories are not the stories
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Priče poput mojih
01:39
that you'll hear on the news,
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nećete čuti na vijestima.
01:41
and while it's true that Africa is a harsh place,
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Iako je istina da je Afrika surovo mjesto,
01:44
I also know it to be a place
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znam da je ona i mjesto
01:46
where people, animals and ecosystems
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gdje nas ljudi, životinje i ekosustavi
01:50
teach us about a more interconnected world.
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uče o svijetu koji je međusobno jače povezan.
01:54
When I was nine years old,
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Kad sam imao devet godina,
01:56
President Mandela came to stay with my family.
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predsjednik Mandela boravio je kod moje obitelji.
01:59
He had just been released from his 27 years of incarceration,
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Nedavno je bio pušten nakon 27 godina u zatvoru
02:03
and was in a period of readjustment
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i prilagođavao se
02:06
to his sudden global icon status.
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svojem iznenadnom statusu svjetske ikone.
02:08
Members of the African National Congress
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Članovi Afričkog nacionalnog kongresa
02:11
thought that in the bush
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mislili su da će u divljini
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he would have time to rest and recuperate
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imati vremena odmoriti se i oporaviti
02:15
away from the public eye,
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daleko od očiju javnosti.
02:17
and it's true that lions tend to be
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Istina je da su lavovi
02:20
a very good deterrent to press and paparazzi.
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vrlo dobra zaštita od novinara i paparazza.
02:24
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
02:26
But it was a defining time for me as a young boy.
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Ali to je znatno utjecalo na mene kao dječaka.
02:29
I would take him breakfast in bed,
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Nosio bih mu doručak u krevet,
02:31
and then, in an old track suit and slippers,
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a on bi zatim u staroj trenirci i papučama
02:33
he would go for a walk around the garden.
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išao u šetnju vrtom.
02:36
At night, I would sit with my family
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Navečer bih sa svojom obitelji
02:38
around the snowy, bunny-eared TV,
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gledao lošu sliku na ekranu televizora
02:40
and watch images of that same
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i gledao slike tog istog
02:43
quiet man from the garden
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tihog čovjeka iz vrta
02:45
surrounded by hundreds and thousands of people
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okruženog stotinama tisuća ljudi
02:48
as scenes from his release were broadcast nightly.
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na snimkama njegovog puštanja iz zatvora.
02:51
He was bringing peace
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Donosio je mir
02:53
to a divided and violent South Africa,
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podijeljenoj i nasilnoj Južnoj Africi.
02:56
one man with an unbelievable sense of his humanity.
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Jedan čovjek s nevjerojatnim osjećajem vlastite ljudskosti.
03:01
Mandela said often that the gift of prison
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Mandela je često govorio da je u zatvoru stekao dar
03:04
was the ability to go within and to think,
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da se povuče u sebe i razmišlja,
03:07
to create in himself
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da u sebi stvori
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the things he most wanted for South Africa:
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stvari koje je najviše želio za Južnu Afriku:
03:11
peace, reconciliation, harmony.
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mir, pomirenje i sklad.
03:15
Through this act of immense open-heartedness,
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Tim činom potpunog otvaranja svog srca
03:17
he was to become the embodiment
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postao je utjelovljenje
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of what in South Africa we call "ubuntu."
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onoga što u Južnoj Africi zovemo "ubuntu".
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Ubuntu: I am because of you.
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Ubuntu: ja jesam zbog tebe.
03:26
Or, people are not people
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Ili, ljudi nisu ljudi
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without other people.
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bez drugih ljudi.
03:31
It's not a new idea or value
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To nije nova ideja ni vrijednosti,
03:33
but it's one that I certainly think at these times
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ali svakako mislim da je u ova vremena
03:35
is worth building on.
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vrijedi uzeti za temelj.
03:37
In fact, it is said that in the collective consciousness of Africa,
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Zapravo, kaže se da u kolektivnoj svijesti Afrike
03:40
we get to experience the deepest parts
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možemo iskusiti najdublje dijelove
03:42
of our own humanity
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svoje vlastite ljudskosti
03:43
through our interactions with others.
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kroz interakcije s drugima.
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Ubuntu is at play right now.
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Ubuntu se događa upravo sada.
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You are holding a space for me
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Vi stvarate mjesto na kojem ja mogu
03:50
to express the deepest truth of who I am.
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iznijeti najdublju istinu o tome tko sam.
03:54
Without you, I'm just a guy talking to an empty room,
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Bez vas, razgovarao bih s praznom sobom,
03:56
and I spent a lot of time last week doing that,
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a prošli sam tjedan proveo dosta vremena radeći upravo to,
03:59
and it's not the same as this.
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A to nije isto kao ovo sad.
04:02
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
04:05
If Mandela was the national and international embodiment,
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Ako je Mandela bio nacionalno i međunarodno utjelovljenje ubuntua,
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then the man who taught me the most
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čovjek koji me osobno najviše naučio
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about this value personally was this man,
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o toj vrijednosti ovaj je čovjek,
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Solly Mhlongo.
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Solly Mhlongo.
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Solly was born under a tree
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Solly je rođen ispod drveta
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60 kilometers from where I grew up in Mozambique.
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60 km od mjesta gdje sam odrastao u Mozambiku.
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He would never have a lot of money,
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Nikad nije imao mnogo novca,
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but he was to be
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ali bio je
04:21
one of the richest men I would ever meet.
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jedan od najbogatijih ljudi koje sam znao.
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Solly grew up tending to his father's cattle.
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Solly je odrastao brinući se za očevu stoku.
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Now, I can tell you, I don't know what it is about people who grow up looking after cattle,
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Ne znam što je to u ljudima koji odrastu brinući se za stoku,
04:31
but it makes for über-resourcefulness.
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ali iznimno su snalažljivi.
04:34
The first job that he ever got in the safari business
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Prvi posao koji je imao u safarijima
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was fixing the safari trucks.
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bio je popravljanje džipova za safari.
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Where he had learned to do that out in the bush
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Gdje je u divljini to naučio raditi,
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I have no idea, but he could do it.
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pojma nemam, ali znao je to.
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He then moved across into what we called
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Zatim se preselio u, kako je on to zvao,
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the habitat team.
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tim za stanište.
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These were the people on the reserve
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To su bili ljudi u rezervatu
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who were responsible for its well-being.
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odgovorni za brigu o njemu.
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He fixed roads, he mended wetlands,
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Popravljao je ceste, održavao močvare,
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he did some anti-poaching.
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kontrolirao krivolov.
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And then one day we were out together,
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Jednog dana, kad smo zajedno bili vani,
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and he came across the tracks of where a female leopard had walked.
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ugledao je tragove ženke leoparda.
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And it was an old track,
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To su bili stari tragovi,
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but for fun he turned and he began to follow it,
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ali ih je iz zabave počeo pratiti.
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and I tell you, I could tell by the speed
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Po brzini kojom je pratio te tragove
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at which he moved on those pad marks
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bilo mi je jasno da bi lako mogao imati
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that this man was a Ph.D.-level tracker.
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doktorat iz praćenja tragova.
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If you drove past Solly
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Ako biste autom prošli uz Sollyja
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somewhere out on the reserve,
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negdje u rezervatu
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you look up in your rearview mirror,
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i pogledali u retrovizor,
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you'd see he'd stopped the car
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vidjeli bi ste da je zaustavio auto
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20, 50 meters down the road
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20, 50 metara niz cestu
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just in case you need help with something.
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za slučaj da vam zatreba pomoć oko nečega.
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The only accusation I ever heard leveled at him
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Jedina optužba koju sam ikad čuo da mu je netko uputio
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was when one of our clients said,
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bila je od jednog našeg klijenta:
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"Solly, you are pathologically helpful."
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"Solly, ti imaš patološku potrebu pomagati."
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
05:34
When I started professionally guiding people
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Kad sam profesionalno počeo voditi ljude
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out into this environment,
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u taj okoliš,
05:38
Solly was my tracker.
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Solly je bio moj tragač.
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We worked together as a team.
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Radili smo zajedno kao tim.
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And the first guests we ever got
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Naši prvi gosti
05:44
were a philanthropy group from your East Coast,
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bila je grupa filantropa s američke istočne obale.
05:47
and they said to Solly, on the side, they said,
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Rekli su Sollyju, onako sa strane:
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"Before we even go out to see lions and leopards,
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"Prije nego odemo vidjeti lavove i leoparde,
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we want to see where you live."
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želimo vidjeti gdje ti živiš."
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So we took them up to his house,
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I tako smo ih odveli do njegove kuće,
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and this visit of the philanthropist to his house
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a taj posjet filantropa njegovoj kući
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coincided with a time when Solly's wife,
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dogodio se u isto vrijeme kad je Sollyjeva žena,
06:01
who was learning English,
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koja je učila engleski,
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was going through a phase where she would open the door
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bila u fazi kad bi otvarala vrata
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by saying, "Hello, I love you.
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i govorila: "Bok, volim te!"
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Welcome, I love you." (Laughter)
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Dobro došao, volim te!" (Smijeh)
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And there was something so beautifully African
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Bilo je u tome nečeg predivno afričkog,
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about it to me, this small house
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ta malena kuća
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with a huge heart in it.
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i u njoj veliko srce.
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Now on the day that Solly saved my life,
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Onog dana kad mi je Solly spasio život
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he was already my hero.
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već je bio moj junak.
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It was a hot day,
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Bio je vruć dan
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and we found ourselves down by the river.
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i našli smo se uz rijeku.
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Because of the heat, I took my shoes off,
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Zbog vrućine sam izuo cipele,
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and I rolled up my pants,
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zavrnuo hlače
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and I walked into the water.
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i zagazio u rijeku.
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Solly remained on the bank.
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Solly je ostao na obali.
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The water was clear running over sand,
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Voda je bila bistra, a dno pješčano.
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and we turned and we began to make our way upstream.
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Okrenuli smo se i zaputili uzvodno.
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And a few meters ahead of us,
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Nekoliko metara pred nama
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there was a place where a tree had fallen out of the bank,
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bilo je stablo srušeno s obale
06:48
and its branches were touching the water,
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grane su mu sezale do vode
06:51
and it was shadowy.
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i bacalo je sjenu.
06:52
And if had been a horror movie,
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Da se radilo o horor filmu,
06:55
people in the audience would have started saying,
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ljudi u publici počeli bi govoriti:
06:57
"Don't go in there. Don't go in there." (Laughter)
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"Ne idi tamo, ne idi tamo!" (Smijeh)
07:01
And of course, the crocodile was in the shadows.
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Naravno, u sjeni je bio krokodil.
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Now the first thing that you notice when a crocodile hits you
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Kad vas napadne krokodil, prvo primijetite
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is the ferocity of the bite.
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silinu ugriza.
07:08
Wham! It hits me by my right leg.
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Tres! Udri me po desnoj nozi.
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It pulls me. It turns. I throw my hand up. I'm able to grab a branch.
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Vuče me, okreće. Dižem ruku u zrak i uspijevam uhvatiti jednu granu.
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It's shaking me violently.
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Trese me svom snagom.
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It's a very strange sensation
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Vrlo je to čudan osjećaj
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having another creature try and eat you,
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kad vas drugo biće pokušava pojesti.
07:19
and there are few things that promote vegetarianism like that.
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Nema bolje preporuke za vegetarijanstvo!
07:23
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
07:24
Solly on the bank sees that I'm in trouble.
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Solly s obale vidi da sam u nevolji.
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He turns. He begins to make his way to me.
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Okreće se i kreće prema meni.
07:29
The croc again continues to shake me.
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Krokodil me i dalje trese.
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It goes to bite me a second time.
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Ugrize me i po drugi put.
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I notice a slick of blood in the water around me
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U vodi oko sebe primjećujem trag krvi
07:35
that gets washed downstream.
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kako otječe nizvodno.
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As it bites the second time, I kick.
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Nakon drugog ugriza, udaram ga nogom.
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My foot goes down its throat. It spits me out.
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Moja mu noga zapinje u grlu i ispljune me.
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I pull myself up into the branches,
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Povlačim se gore među grane
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and as I come out of the water, I look over my shoulder.
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i dok izlazim iz vode, pogledam preko ramena.
07:47
My leg from the knee down
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Od koljena na dolje,
07:49
is mangled beyond description.
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noga mi je bila sažvakana.
07:51
The bone is cracked.
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Kost je bila napuknuta,
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The meat is torn up.
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meso razderano.
07:54
I make an instant decision that I'll never look at that again.
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U tom trenu odlučujem da to više nikad neću pogledati.
07:59
As I come out of the water,
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Dok sam izlazio iz vode,
08:01
Solly arrives at a deep section,
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Solly je bio na dubljem dijelu,
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a channel between us.
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i između nas je bio kanal.
08:05
He knows, he sees the state of my leg,
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Vidio je u kakvom mi je stanju noga
08:07
he knows that between him and I
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i znao je da se između njega i mene
08:09
there is a crocodile,
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nalazi krokodil,
08:10
and I can tell you this man doesn't slow down for one second.
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ali taj čovjek nije zastao ni na sekundu.
08:13
He comes straight into the channel.
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Ušao je ravno u taj kanal
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He wades in to above his waist.
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i zagazio u vodu do iznad struka.
08:17
He gets to me. He grabs me.
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Došao je do mene i uhvatio me.
08:18
I'm still in a vulnerable position.
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Još sam uvijek bio u ranjivom položaju.
08:20
He picks me and puts me on his shoulder.
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Uhvatio me i prebacio preko ramena.
08:21
This is the other thing about Solly, he's freakishly strong.
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To je još jedna Sollyjeva osobina, bizarno je snažan.
08:24
He turns. He walks me up the bank.
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Okenuo se i izašao sa mnom na obalu.
08:26
He lays me down. He pulls his shirt off.
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Polegao me, skinuo košulju
08:28
He wraps it around my leg,
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i zamotao mi je oko noge.
08:30
picks me up a second time,
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Zatim me ponovno podigao,
08:31
walks me to a vehicle,
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otišao sa mnom do vozila
08:33
and he's able to get me to medical attention.
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i uspio me odvesti do liječnika.
08:37
And I survive.
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I preživio sam.
08:40
Now — (Applause)
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(Pljesak)
08:44
Now I don't know how many people you know
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Ne znam koliko ljudi poznajete
08:47
that go into a deep channel of water
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koji bi zagazili u dubok kanal,
08:49
that they know has a crocodile in it
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znajući da je ondje krokodil,
08:51
to come and help you,
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kako bi vam pomogli,
08:53
but for Solly, it was as natural as breathing.
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ali Sollyju je to bilo prirodno poput disanja.
08:56
And he is one amazing example
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On je predivan primjer
08:59
of what I have experienced all over Africa.
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onoga što sam doživio u cijeloj Africi.
09:02
In a more collective society,
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U kolektivnijem društvu
09:04
we realize from the inside
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u svojoj nutrini razumijemo
09:07
that our own well-being is deeply tied
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da je naša dobrobit usko povezana
09:10
to the well-being of others.
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s dobrobiti drugih.
09:13
Danger is shared. Pain is shared.
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Opasnost je zajednička. Bol je zajednička.
09:17
Joy is shared. Achievement is shared.
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Radost je zajednička. Postignuća su zajednička.
09:20
Houses are shared. Food is shared.
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Kuće su zajedničke. Hrana je zajednička.
09:24
Ubuntu asks us to open our hearts
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Ubuntu nas traži da otvorimo srca
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and to share,
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i dijelimo jedni s drugima.
09:29
and what Solly taught me that day
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Solly me tog dana naučio
09:31
is the essence of this value,
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samoj biti te vrijednosti
09:33
his animated, empathetic action
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svojim suosjećajnim djelovanjem
09:36
in every moment.
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u svakom trenutku.
09:38
Now although the root word is about people,
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Iako je korijen riječi vezan za ljude,
09:41
I thought that maybe ubuntu was only about people.
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mislio sam da se ubuntu možda odnosi samo na ljude.
09:44
And then I met this young lady.
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Dok nisam susreo ovu mladu damu.
09:48
Her name was Elvis.
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Zvala se Elvis.
09:49
In fact, Solly gave her the name Elvis
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Zapravo joj je Solly dao to ime,
09:51
because he said she walked like she was doing
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rekao je da hoda kao da pleše
09:54
the Elvis the pelvis dance.
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poput Elvisa.
09:57
She was born with very badly deformed back legs and pelvis.
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Rođena je s teško deformiranim stražnjim nogama i zdjelicom.
10:01
She arrived at our reserve from a reserve
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U naš je rezervat stigla iz drugog rezervata,
10:03
east of us on her migratory route.
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istočno od nas, tijekom migracija.
10:05
When I first saw her,
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Kad sam je prvi put vidio,
10:07
I thought she would be dead in a matter of days.
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mislio sam da će biti mrtva za nekoliko dana.
10:10
And yet, for the next five years
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A ipak se idućih pet godina
10:13
she returned in the winter months.
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vraćala tijekom zimskih mjeseci.
10:15
And we would be so excited to be out in the bush
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Bili smo tako uzbuđeni kad bismo
10:17
and to come across this unusual track.
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pronašli njezine neobične tragove.
10:20
It looked like an inverted bracket,
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Izgledali su poput obrnute zagrade.
10:21
and we would drop whatever we were doing and we would follow,
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Ostavili bismo što god da smo radili i pratili te tragove.
10:24
and then we would come around the corner,
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Na kraju bismo zašli za neki ugao
10:26
and there she would be with her herd.
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i vidjeli je s njezinim krdom.
10:28
And that outpouring of emotion
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Taj izljev osjećaja
10:30
from people on our safari trucks
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od ljudi u našim kombijima za safari
10:32
as they saw her, it was this sense of kinship.
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kad bi je ugledali, to je bio taj osjećaj povezanosti.
10:35
And it reminded me
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To me podsjetilo
10:37
that even people who grow up in cities
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da čak i ljudi koji odrastu u gradovima
10:39
feel a natural connection
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osjećaju prirodnu povezanost
10:42
with the natural world and with animals.
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s prirodom i životinjama.
10:45
And yet still I remained amazed that she was surviving.
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A ipak me čudilo što uspijeva preživjeti.
10:48
And then one day we came across them at this small water hole.
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A onda smo ih jednog dana susreli pokraj malene rupe s vodom.
10:51
It was sort of a hollow in the ground.
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To je bila obična udubina u zemlji.
10:53
And I watched as the matriarch drank,
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Gledao sam kako slonica vođa krda pije
10:56
and then she turned in that beautiful slow motion of elephants,
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i zatim se okreće polako kako to slonovi već rade,
10:59
looks like the arm in motion,
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poput ruke koja lebdi zrakom,
11:01
and she began to make her way up the steep bank.
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i kreće uz strmu obalu.
11:04
The rest of the herd turned and began to follow.
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Okrenuo se i ostatak krda i krenuo za njom.
11:08
And I watched young Elvis
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Gledao sam kako se Elvis
11:10
begin to psych herself up for the hill.
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priprema za uspon.
11:13
She got visibly -- ears came forward,
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Uši je pomaknula unaprijed,
11:17
she had a full go of it and halfway up,
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svom snagom je krenula i na pola puta
11:19
her legs gave way, and she fell backwards.
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noge su joj popustile i pala je natrag.
11:21
She attempted it a second time,
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Pokušala je i drugi put,
11:23
and again, halfway up, she fell backwards.
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i opet je na pola puta pala natrag.
11:26
And on the third attempt,
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Pri trećem pokušaju
11:28
an amazing thing happened.
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dogodila se predivna stvar.
11:30
Halfway up the bank,
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Na pola puta uz obalu
11:32
a young teenage elephant came in behind her,
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mladi slon došao je iza nje,
11:35
and he propped his trunk underneath her,
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podupro je svojom surlom
11:38
and he began to shovel her up the bank.
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i počeo je poguravati uz obalu.
11:41
And it occurred to me
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Sinulo mi je
11:42
that the rest of the herd
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da ostatak krda
11:44
was in fact looking after this young elephant.
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zapravo pazi na tu mladu slonicu.
11:46
The next day I watched again
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Idućeg sam dana ponovno gledao
11:49
as the matriarch broke a branch
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kako je slonica vođa krda slomila granu
11:51
and she would put it in her mouth,
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i stavila je u usta,
11:53
and then she would break a second one
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a zatim slomila još jednu granu
11:55
and drop it on the ground.
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i spustila je na pod.
11:58
And a consensus developed between all of us
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Svi mi koji smo vodili ljude tim područjem
12:00
who were guiding people in that area
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zajedno smo zaključili
12:02
that that herd was in fact moving slower
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da se to krdo zapravo kretalo sporije
12:05
to accommodate that elephant.
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zbog te jedne slonice.
12:09
What Elvis and the herd taught me
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Zbog onoga što sam naučio od Elvis i njenog krda
12:11
caused me to expand my definition of ubuntu,
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proširio sam svoju definiciju ubuntua.
12:14
and I believe that in the cathedral of the wild,
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Vjerujem da se u katedrali divljine
12:17
we get to see the most beautiful parts of ourselves
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najdivniji dijelovi nas samih
12:19
reflected back at us.
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odražavaju natrag prema nama.
12:21
And it is not only through other people
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Ne doživljavamo svoju ljudskost
12:25
that we get to experience our humanity
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samo kroz druge ljude,
12:28
but through all the creatures that live on this planet.
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nego kroz sva stvorenja na ovom planetu.
12:32
If Africa has a gift to share,
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Afrika ima dar koji želi podijeliti,
12:34
it's a gift of a more collective society.
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dar kolektivnijeg društva.
12:38
And while it's true that ubuntu is an African idea,
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Iako ubuntu jest afrička ideja,
12:42
what I see is the essence of that value
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vidim kako se bit te vrijednosti
12:47
being invented here.
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upravo rađa i ovdje.
12:49
Thank you.
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Hvala.
12:51
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
13:16
Pat Mitchell: So Boyd,
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Pat Mitchell: Boyde,
13:17
we know that you knew President Mandela
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znamo da si poznavao predsjednika Mandelu
13:22
from early childhood
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od ranog djetinjstva
13:24
and that you heard the news as we all did today,
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i da si čuo vijesti, kao i svi mi danas.
13:27
and deeply distraught
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Duboko smo potreseni
13:30
and know the tragic loss that it is to the world.
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i shvaćamo kakav je to tragičan gubitak za svijet.
13:34
But I just wondered if you wanted
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Želiš li možda
13:36
to share any additional thoughts,
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s nama podijeliti još koju misao,
13:38
because we know that you heard that news
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budući da si vijesti čuo
13:40
just before coming in to do this session.
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tik pred dolazak ovamo.
13:44
Boyd Varty: Well thanks, Pat.
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Boyd Varty: Hvala, Pat.
13:45
I'm so happy because it was time for him to pass on.
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Vrlo sam sretan jer došlo je njegovo vrijeme.
13:48
He was suffering.
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Patio je.
13:50
And so of course there's the mixed emotions.
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Naravno da imam suprotstavljene osjećaje.
13:53
But I just think of so many occurrences
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Ali prisjećam se tolikih događaja,
13:55
like the time he went on the Oprah show
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kao kad je gostovao u Oprah Showu
13:57
and asked her what the show would be about.
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i pitao o čemu će biti riječi u emisiji.
14:00
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
14:01
And she was like, "Well, it'll be about you."
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A ona je rekla: "Pa, o vama."
14:05
I mean, that's just incredible humility.
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To je nevjerojatna skromnost.
14:07
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
14:11
He was the father of our nation
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On je otac našeg naroda
14:14
and we've got a road to walk in South Africa.
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i pred nama u Južnoj Africi stoji put.
14:21
And everything, they used to call it Madiba magic.
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Mi smo to zvali čarolijom Madiba.
14:24
You know, he used to go to a rugby match and we would win.
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On bi otišao na ragbi utakmicu i mi bismo pobijedili.
14:27
Anywhere he went, things went well.
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Gdje god je bio, stvari su išle dobro.
14:30
But I think that magic will be with us,
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Mislim da će ta čarolija ostati s nama,
14:33
and the important thing is that we carry
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a bitno je da se i dalje držimo
14:36
what he stood for.
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onoga što je on zagovarao.
14:38
And so that's what I'm going to try and do,
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To ću i ja nastojati činiti,
14:41
and that's what people all over South Africa are trying to do.
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kao i ljudi u cijeloj Južnoj Africi.
14:44
PM: And that's what you've done today. BV: Oh, thank you.
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PM: To si učinio i danas. BV: Hvala.
14:46
PM: Thank you. BV: Thank you. Thanks very much.
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PM: Hvala tebi. BV: Hvala. Hvala puno.
14:50
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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