Boyd Varty: What I learned from Nelson Mandela

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฒˆ์—ญ: K Bang ๊ฒ€ํ† : Gemma Lee
00:12
I'm a man who's trying to live from his heart,
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์ €๋Š” ๋งˆ์Œ์—์„œ ์šฐ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜์˜ค๋Š” ์‚ถ์„ ์‚ด๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:16
and so just before I get going,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ์•ž์„œ
00:19
I wanted to tell you as a South African
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๋‚จ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด ๊ณตํ™”๊ตญ ๊ตญ๋ฏผ์˜ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„์œผ๋กœ์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฑด๋ฐ
00:21
that one of the men who has inspired me most
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ์˜๊ฐ์„ ์ฃผ์‹  ๋ถ„ ๊ฐ€์šด๋ฐ ํ•œ ๋ถ„์ด
00:24
passed away a few hours ago.
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๋ช‡ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ „์— ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์…จ์Œ์„ ์•Œ๋ ค๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:27
Nelson Mandela has come to the end
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๋„ฌ์Šจ ๋งŒ๋ธ๋ผ๊ฐ€ ์ž์œ ๋ฅผ ํ–ฅํ•œ
00:30
of his long walk to freedom.
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๊ธฐ๋‚˜๊ธด ์—ฌ์ •์„ ๋๋งˆ์ณค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:33
And so this talk is going to be for him.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด ๊ฐ•์—ฐ์„ ๊ทธ๋ถ„๊ป˜ ๋ฐ”์นฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:40
I grew up in wonder.
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์ €๋Š” ์˜๊ตฌ์‹ฌ์— ๊ฐ€๋“์ฐฌ ์œ ๋…„ ์‹œ์ ˆ์„ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:43
I grew up amongst those animals.
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๊ทธ ๋งŽ์€ ๋™๋ฌผ๋“ค ์‚ฌ์ด์—์„œ ์ž๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:47
I grew up in the wild eastern part of South Africa
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์ €๋Š” ๋‚จ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด์˜ ๋™๋ถ€์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ ์ž๋ž๋Š”๋ฐ
00:51
at a place called Londolozi Game Reserve.
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๊ทธ๊ณณ์€ ๋ก ๋Œ๋กœ์น˜ ๋™๋ฌผ ๋ณดํ˜ธ ๊ตฌ์—ญ์ด๋ž€ ๊ณณ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:54
It's a place where my family has been
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๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์ €ํฌ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์€
00:57
in the safari business for four generations.
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4์„ธ๋Œ€์— ๊ฑธ์ณ ์‚ฌํŒŒ๋ฆฌ ์‚ฌ์—…์„ ์šด์˜ํ•ด ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:01
Now for as long as I can remember,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜๋Š” ํ•œ,
01:03
my job has been to take people out into nature,
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์ œ ์ง์—…์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์ž์—ฐ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ๋ ค๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
01:08
and so I think it's a lovely twist of fate today
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋ชจ์ธ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ป˜
01:11
to have the opportunity
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์ž์—ฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
01:13
to bring some of my experiences out in nature
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์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์šด๋ช…์˜ ์žฅ๋‚œ๊ณผ๋„ ๊ฐ™์€
01:16
in to this gathering.
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๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:18
Africa is a place
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์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด๋Š”
01:20
where people still sit under starlit skies
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์ง€๊ธˆ๋„ ๋ณ„๋น› ๊ฐ€๋“ํ•œ ํ•˜๋Š˜ ์•„๋ž˜
01:23
and around campfires and tell stories,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ชจ๋‹ฅ๋ถˆ์„ ํ”ผ์šฐ๊ณ  ์•‰์•„ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๋ฉฐ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ณณ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:27
and so what I have to share with you today
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
01:29
is the simple medicine of a few campfire stories,
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๋ชจ๋‹ฅ๋ถˆ ์ฃผ๋ณ€์—์„œ ํ”ํžˆ ์˜ค๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:34
stories about heroes of heart.
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๋งˆ์Œ ์† ์˜์›…์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
01:37
Now my stories are not the stories
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋Š”
01:39
that you'll hear on the news,
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๋‰ด์Šค์— ๋‚˜์˜ฌ ๋ฒ•ํ•œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:41
and while it's true that Africa is a harsh place,
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์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด๊ฐ€ ์‚ด๊ธฐ ํž˜๋“  ๊ณณ์ด๊ธด ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
01:44
I also know it to be a place
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๊ทธ๊ณณ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋™๋ฌผ๋“ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
01:46
where people, animals and ecosystems
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์ƒํƒœ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ๋”์šฑ ๋ฐ€์ ‘ํ•œ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ
01:50
teach us about a more interconnected world.
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๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์ณ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ณณ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:54
When I was nine years old,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„ํ™‰์‚ด ๋•Œ,
01:56
President Mandela came to stay with my family.
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๋งŒ๋ธ๋ผ ๋Œ€ํ†ต๋ น์ด ์ œ ๊ฐ€์กฑ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋Ÿฌ ์˜ค์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:59
He had just been released from his 27 years of incarceration,
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๊ทธ ๋•Œ ๊ทธ ๋ถ„์€ 27๋…„๊ฐ„์˜ ํˆฌ์˜ฅ์„ ๋งˆ์น˜๊ณ  ์„๋ฐฉ๋˜์‹  ์งํ›„์˜€๊ณ 
02:03
and was in a period of readjustment
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๊ธ‰์ž‘์Šค๋ ˆ ์ „์„ธ๊ณ„์ ์ธ ์šฐ์ƒ์ด ๋˜๋ฒ„๋ฆฐ ์ž์‹ ์—
02:06
to his sudden global icon status.
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์ ์‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์‹œ๊ธฐ์˜€์ง€์š”.
02:08
Members of the African National Congress
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์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด ๋ฏผ์กฑ ํšŒ์˜์˜ ํšŒ์›๋“ค์€
02:11
thought that in the bush
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๊ทธ ๋ถ„์ด ์ˆฒ ์†์—์„œ
02:13
he would have time to rest and recuperate
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์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋ฉฐ ๋Œ€์ค‘์˜ ์‹œ์„ ์—์„œ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚˜
02:15
away from the public eye,
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์ ์‘ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ฑฐ์น  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:17
and it's true that lions tend to be
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์‚ฌ์ž๋Š” ๊ธฐ์ž์™€ ํŒŒํŒŒ๋ผ์น˜๋“ค์„
02:20
a very good deterrent to press and paparazzi.
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๋ฌผ๋ฆฌ์น˜๋Š”๋ฐ ํƒ์›”ํ•œ ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:24
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
02:26
But it was a defining time for me as a young boy.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์†Œ๋…„์œผ๋กœ์„œ์˜ ์ € ์ž์‹ ์„ ์ •์˜ํ•˜๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:29
I would take him breakfast in bed,
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋ถ„์˜ ์นจ๋Œ€๋กœ ์•„์นจ ์‹์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๋‹ค ๋“œ๋ ธ๊ณ 
02:31
and then, in an old track suit and slippers,
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๊ทธ๋•Œ ๋‚ก์€ ์šด๋™๋ณต์— ์‹ค๋‚ดํ™” ์ฐจ๋ฆผ์œผ๋กœ
02:33
he would go for a walk around the garden.
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๊ทธ ๋ถ„์€ ์ •์› ์ฃผ๋ณ€์„ ์‚ฐ์ฑ…ํ•˜์‹œ๊ณค ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
02:36
At night, I would sit with my family
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๋ฐค์— ์ €๋Š” ๊ฐ€์กฑ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜
02:38
around the snowy, bunny-eared TV,
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์‹ค๋‚ด์•ˆํ…Œ๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ๋‹ฌ๋ฆฐ ํฐ์ƒ‰ ํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ์ด ์ฃผ๋ณ€์— ์•‰์•„
02:40
and watch images of that same
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์ •์›์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜จ ์กฐ์šฉํ•œ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ถ„์ด
02:43
quiet man from the garden
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์ˆ˜๋ฐฑ ์ˆ˜์ฒœ๋ช…์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋‘˜๋Ÿฌ์‹ธ์—ฌ
02:45
surrounded by hundreds and thousands of people
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์„๋ฐฉ๋˜๋Š” ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋‚ ๋งˆ๋‹ค
02:48
as scenes from his release were broadcast nightly.
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๋ฐฉ์†ก๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ง€์ผœ๋ณด๊ณค ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:51
He was bringing peace
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๊ทธ ๋ถ„์€ ๋ถ„๋‹จ๋˜๊ณ  ํญ๋ ฅ์ ์ธ ๋‚จ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด์—
02:53
to a divided and violent South Africa,
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ํ‰ํ™”๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:56
one man with an unbelievable sense of his humanity.
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๋ฏฟ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ์ธ๊ฐ„์„ฑ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์ธ๋ฌผ์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
03:01
Mandela said often that the gift of prison
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๋งŒ๋ธ๋ผ๋Š” ์ข…์ข… ํˆฌ์˜ฅ์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์–ป์€ ์„ ๋ฌผ์€
03:04
was the ability to go within and to think,
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์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋‚ด๋ฉด์œผ๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ 
03:07
to create in himself
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๋งˆ์Œ ์†์—์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋‚จ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ ์›ํ•˜๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„
03:08
the things he most wanted for South Africa:
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์ฐฝ์กฐํ•ด๋‚ด๋Š” ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ด์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹œ๊ณค ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:11
peace, reconciliation, harmony.
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ํ‰ํ™”์™€ ํƒ€ํ˜‘, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์กฐํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:15
Through this act of immense open-heartedness,
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์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ปค๋‹ค๋ž—๊ฒŒ ์—ด๋ฆฐ ๋งˆ์Œ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ํ–‰๋™์„ ํ†ตํ•˜์—ฌ
03:17
he was to become the embodiment
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๊ทธ ๋ถ„์€ ๋‚จ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
03:20
of what in South Africa we call "ubuntu."
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"์šฐ๋ถ„ํˆฌ"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์˜ ํ™”์‹ ์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:23
Ubuntu: I am because of you.
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์šฐ๋ถ„ํˆฌ: ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ์— ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:26
Or, people are not people
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ํ˜น์€, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์—†์ด๋Š”
03:29
without other people.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:31
It's not a new idea or value
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด๋‚˜ ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
03:33
but it's one that I certainly think at these times
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๊ณ„์† ์Œ“์•„๋‚˜๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ 
03:35
is worth building on.
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์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:37
In fact, it is said that in the collective consciousness of Africa,
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์‚ฌ์‹ค, ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด์˜ ์ง‘๋‹จ์  ์ธ์‹ ์†์—๋Š”
03:40
we get to experience the deepest parts
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ์ƒํ˜ธ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•˜์—ฌ
03:42
of our own humanity
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์ธ๊ฐ„์  ๋‚ด๋ฉด์„
03:43
through our interactions with others.
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๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์–ธ๊ธ‰๋˜๊ณค ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:46
Ubuntu is at play right now.
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์šฐ๋ถ„ํˆฌ๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ ์‹คํ–‰๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:48
You are holding a space for me
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์ง€๊ธˆ
03:50
to express the deepest truth of who I am.
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ํ˜„์žฌ ์ € ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๊นŠ์€ ๋‚ด๋ฉด์„ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณต๊ฐ„์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:54
Without you, I'm just a guy talking to an empty room,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ์ € ํ……๋นˆ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์— ๋Œ€๊ณ  ์ง€๊ป„์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์— ๋ถˆ๊ณผํ•˜์ฃ .
03:56
and I spent a lot of time last week doing that,
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์ง€๋‚œ ์ฃผ์— ์ €๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
03:59
and it's not the same as this.
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์ง€๊ธˆ๊ณผ๋Š” ์ „ํ˜€ ๋‹ฌ๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:02
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
04:05
If Mandela was the national and international embodiment,
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๋งŒ๋ธ๋ผ๊ฐ€ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€์ ์ธ ๋˜ ๊ตญ์ œ์ ์ธ ํ™”์‹ ์ด์—ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
04:08
then the man who taught me the most
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์ œ๊ฒŒ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฐ€์น˜๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ž˜ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์‹  ๋ถ„์€
04:10
about this value personally was this man,
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๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ด ๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:12
Solly Mhlongo.
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์†”๋ฆฌ ์Œ๋กฑ๊ณ ๋ผ๋Š” ๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:14
Solly was born under a tree
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์†”๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ์ž ๋น„ํฌ์—์„œ ์ž๋ž๋˜ ๊ณณ์—์„œ
04:16
60 kilometers from where I grew up in Mozambique.
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60ํ‚ฌ๋กœ๋ฏธํ„ฐ ๋–จ์–ด์ง„ ๊ณณ์˜ ์–ด๋Š ๋‚˜๋ฌด ์•„๋ž˜์—์„œ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:18
He would never have a lot of money,
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๊ทธ ๋ถ„์€ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
04:20
but he was to be
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๊ทธ ๋ถ„์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋Š” ํ•œ
04:21
one of the richest men I would ever meet.
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋ถ€์œ ํ•œ ๋ถ„ ์ค‘์— ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:24
Solly grew up tending to his father's cattle.
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์†”๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ถ€์นœ์˜ ์†Œ๋ฅผ ๋Œ๋ณด๋ฉฐ ์ž๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:27
Now, I can tell you, I don't know what it is about people who grow up looking after cattle,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์†Œ๋–ผ๋ฅผ ๋Œ๋ณด๋ฉฐ ์ž๋ผ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋–ค์ง€๋ฅผ
04:31
but it makes for รผber-resourcefulness.
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์ €๋Š” ์•Œ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ด๊ธด ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๋งŽ์€ ์ง€๋žต์„ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:34
The first job that he ever got in the safari business
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์‚ฌ๋ผํ”ผ ์‚ฌ์—…์—์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์กŒ๋˜ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ง์—…์€
04:36
was fixing the safari trucks.
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์‚ฌํŒŒ๋ฆฌ ํŠธ๋Ÿญ์„ ์ˆ˜๋ฆฌํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:39
Where he had learned to do that out in the bush
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์ˆฒ ์† ์–ด๋””์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์› ๋Š”์ง€
04:41
I have no idea, but he could do it.
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์ €๋Š” ์•Œ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ๋ถ„์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:43
He then moved across into what we called
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ๋ถ„์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ”ํžˆ
04:45
the habitat team.
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์„œ์‹์ง€ ํŒ€์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ฎ๊ฒผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:47
These were the people on the reserve
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๊ทธ ํŒ€์€ ๋ณดํ˜ธ ๊ตฌ์—ญ์—์„œ
04:49
who were responsible for its well-being.
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๋™๋ฌผ๋“ค์ด ์ž˜ ์ง€๋‚ด๋Š”์ง€๋ฅผ ์ฑ…์ž„์ง€๋Š” ์ž„๋ฌด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์ฃ .
04:51
He fixed roads, he mended wetlands,
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๊ทธ ๋ถ„์€ ๋„๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ณ ์น˜๊ณ  ์Šต์ง€๋ฅผ ๊ฐœ๋Ÿ‰ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
04:53
he did some anti-poaching.
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๋ฐ€๋ ต์„ ๋ง‰๋Š” ์ผ๋„ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
04:55
And then one day we were out together,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋Š ๋‚  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ฐ–์— ๋‚˜๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:57
and he came across the tracks of where a female leopard had walked.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์•”์ปท ํ‘œ๋ฒ”์ด ๊ฑธ์–ด๊ฐ„ ๊ธธ์„ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:01
And it was an old track,
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๊ทธ ๊ธธ์€ ์˜ค๋ž˜๋œ ๊ธธ์ด์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
05:02
but for fun he turned and he began to follow it,
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์žฌ๋ฏธ์‚ผ์•„ ๊ธธ์„ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ” ํ‘œ๋ฒ”์„ ๋”ฐ๋ผ๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:05
and I tell you, I could tell by the speed
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๋‚จ๊ธด ๋ฐœ์ž๊ตญ์„ ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๊ทธ ๋ถ„์ด ์›€์ง์ด๋Š”
05:06
at which he moved on those pad marks
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์†๋„๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๊ทธ ๋ถ„์€ ๊ฑฐ์˜
05:08
that this man was a Ph.D.-level tracker.
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๋ฐ•์‚ฌ๊ธ‰์˜ ์ถ”์ ์ž์˜€์–ด์š”.
05:12
If you drove past Solly
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๋ณดํ˜ธ ๊ตฌ์—ญ ์–ด๋”˜๊ฐ€์—์„œ
05:14
somewhere out on the reserve,
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์†”๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ถ”์›”ํ•ด ์ง€๋‚˜๊ฐ€์„œ
05:16
you look up in your rearview mirror,
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๋ฐฑ๋ฏธ๋Ÿฌ์„ ์˜ฌ๋ ค๋‹ค ๋ณด๋ฉด,
05:17
you'd see he'd stopped the car
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20, 50๋ฏธํ„ฐ๋„ ์ง€๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„์„œ
05:19
20, 50 meters down the road
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ํ˜น์‹œ ๋„์›€์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•œ์ง€ ์•Œ์•„๋ณด๋ ค๊ณ 
05:21
just in case you need help with something.
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์†”๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฐจ๋ฅผ ์„ธ์šธ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:24
The only accusation I ever heard leveled at him
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๊ทธ๋ฅผ ํ–ฅํ•ด ์ œ๊ธฐ๋˜์—ˆ๋˜ ์œ ์ผํ•œ ๋ถˆ๋งŒ์€
05:27
was when one of our clients said,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์†๋‹˜ ์ค‘์— ํ•œ ๋ถ„์ด
05:28
"Solly, you are pathologically helpful."
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"์†”๋ฆฌ, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ณ‘์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋„์›€์„ ์ฃผ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด์•ผ." ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
05:31
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
05:34
When I started professionally guiding people
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ง์—…์ ์œผ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์œผ๋กœ
05:37
out into this environment,
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์•ˆ๋‚ดํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ,
05:38
Solly was my tracker.
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์†”๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ œ ํŒ€์˜ ์ผ์›์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:40
We worked together as a team.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํŒ€์œผ๋กœ ์ผํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
05:42
And the first guests we ever got
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋งž์€ ์ฒซ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์€
05:44
were a philanthropy group from your East Coast,
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋™๋ถ€ ํ•ด์•ˆ์˜ ์ž์„  ํ™œ๋™๊ฐ€ ๋‹จ์ฒด์˜€๋Š”๋ฐ
05:47
and they said to Solly, on the side, they said,
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ํ˜„์žฅ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:49
"Before we even go out to see lions and leopards,
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"์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ์ž๋‚˜ ํ‘œ๋ฒ”์„ ๋ณด๋Ÿฌ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๊ธฐ ์ „์—
05:52
we want to see where you live."
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ณณ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด์š”."
05:54
So we took them up to his house,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์†”๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ง‘์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ๋ ค๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:55
and this visit of the philanthropist to his house
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์ด ์ž์„  ํ™œ๋™๊ฐ€ ๋‹จ์ฒด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ์˜ ์ง‘์„ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋Š”
05:58
coincided with a time when Solly's wife,
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์šฐ์—ฐํžˆ๋„ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋˜
06:01
who was learning English,
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์†”๋ฆฌ์˜ ์•„๋‚ด๊ฐ€
06:02
was going through a phase where she would open the door
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ์˜€์ฃ . ๋ฌธ์„ ์—ด๋ฉด์„œ
06:05
by saying, "Hello, I love you.
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"์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:07
Welcome, I love you." (Laughter)
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ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."๋ผ๊ณ ์š”. (์›ƒ์Œ)
06:09
And there was something so beautifully African
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์ด ์ƒํ™ฉ์—๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ต๊ณ  ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด๋‹ค์šด
06:12
about it to me, this small house
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๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์ž‘์€ ์ง‘์—๋Š”
06:14
with a huge heart in it.
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์—„์ฒญ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๋”ฐ๋“ฏํ•œ ๋งˆ์Œ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:16
Now on the day that Solly saved my life,
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์†”๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ œ ๋ชฉ์ˆจ์„ ๊ฑด์กŒ๋˜ ๋‚ 
06:23
he was already my hero.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ์ €์˜ ์˜์›…์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
06:25
It was a hot day,
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์•„์ฃผ ๋”์šด ๋‚ ์ด์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
06:27
and we found ourselves down by the river.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฐ•๊ฐ€์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€์š”.
06:29
Because of the heat, I took my shoes off,
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋”์›Œ์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์‹ ๋ฐœ์„ ๋ฒ—๊ณ 
06:31
and I rolled up my pants,
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๋ฐ”์ง€๋ฅผ ๊ฑท์–ด ์˜ฌ๋ฆฐ ์ฑ„
06:33
and I walked into the water.
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๋ฌผ์— ๊ฑธ์–ด๋“ค์–ด ๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:35
Solly remained on the bank.
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์†”๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฐ•๋‘‘์— ๋‚จ์•„์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€์š”.
06:37
The water was clear running over sand,
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๊ฐ•๋ฌผ์€ ๋ชจ๋ž˜์œ„๋กœ ํˆฌ๋ช…ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ๋ฅด๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
06:40
and we turned and we began to make our way upstream.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ” ์ƒ๋ฅ˜ ์ชฝ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฑฐ์Šฌ๋Ÿฌ ์˜ค๋ฅด๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
06:43
And a few meters ahead of us,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๋ช‡ ๋ฏธํ„ฐ ์•ž์—
06:45
there was a place where a tree had fallen out of the bank,
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๊ฐ•๊ฐ€์—์„œ ์“ฐ๋Ÿฌ์ง„ ๋‚˜๋ฌด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:48
and its branches were touching the water,
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๋‚˜๋ญ‡๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋ฌผ์— ๋‹ฟ์•„ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
06:51
and it was shadowy.
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๊ทธ๋Š˜์„ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:52
And if had been a horror movie,
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๊ณตํฌ ์˜ํ™”์˜€๋‹ค๋ฉด
06:55
people in the audience would have started saying,
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๊ด€๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:57
"Don't go in there. Don't go in there." (Laughter)
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"๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋งˆ. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๋ฉด ์•ˆ๋ผ." (์›ƒ์Œ)
07:01
And of course, the crocodile was in the shadows.
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๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ์•…์–ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์ž ๋’ค์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:04
Now the first thing that you notice when a crocodile hits you
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์•…์–ด๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๊ณต๊ฒฉํ•  ๋•Œ, ์ฒ˜์Œ ๊ฒ์— ์งˆ๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ
07:06
is the ferocity of the bite.
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์•…์–ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฒฉ๋ ฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
07:08
Wham! It hits me by my right leg.
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์ฟต! ์•…์–ด๊ฐ€ ์ œ ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
07:10
It pulls me. It turns. I throw my hand up. I'm able to grab a branch.
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์ €๋ฅผ ๋Œ์–ด๋‹น๊ธฐ๋ฉฐ ๋•๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ์†์„ ์˜ฌ๋ ค ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ์žก์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
07:14
It's shaking me violently.
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๊ทธ ๋†ˆ์€ ์ €๋ฅผ ๊ฒฉ๋ ฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ”๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:16
It's a very strange sensation
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ƒ๋ช…์ฒด๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์žก์•„๋จน์œผ๋ ค ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
07:17
having another creature try and eat you,
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์•„์ฃผ ์ด์ƒํ•œ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:19
and there are few things that promote vegetarianism like that.
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์ฑ„์‹์ฃผ์˜๋ฅผ ๊ด‘๊ณ ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ทธ๋ณด๋‹ค ์ € ์ข‹์€ ์ผ์€ ์—†์„๊ฑฐ์—์š”.
07:23
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
07:24
Solly on the bank sees that I'm in trouble.
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๊ฐ•๋‘‘์— ์žˆ๋˜ ์†”๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์œ„ํ—˜์— ์ฒ˜ํ•œ ์ €๋ฅผ ๋ดค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:27
He turns. He begins to make his way to me.
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ” ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๊ฐ€์˜ค๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
07:29
The croc again continues to shake me.
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์•…์–ด๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ์ €๋ฅผ ๋’คํ”๋“ค๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
07:31
It goes to bite me a second time.
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๊ทธ ๋†ˆ์ด ์ €๋ฅผ ๋˜๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:33
I notice a slick of blood in the water around me
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์ €๋Š” ์ œ ์ฃผ๋ณ€์ด ํ”ผ๋กœ ๋ฌผ๋“ค์—ฌ์ง„ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์•˜๊ณ 
07:35
that gets washed downstream.
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ํ”ผ๋Š” ๋ฌผ์— ํœฉ์“ธ๋ ค ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐ”์–ด์š”.
07:36
As it bites the second time, I kick.
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๊ทธ ๋†ˆ์ด ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ ์ €๋ฅผ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ, ์ €๋Š” ๋ฐœ๊ธธ์งˆ์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:39
My foot goes down its throat. It spits me out.
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์ œ ๋ฐœ์ด ๊ทธ ๋†ˆ์˜ ๋ชฉ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐ€์ž ์ €๋ฅผ ๋ฑ‰์–ด๋ƒˆ์–ด์š”.
07:41
I pull myself up into the branches,
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์ €๋Š” ๋‚˜๋ญ‡๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ์žก๊ณ  ์œ„๋กœ ๊ธฐ์–ด ์˜ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ”๊ณ 
07:43
and as I come out of the water, I look over my shoulder.
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๋ฌผ์—์„œ ๋น ์ ธ๋‚˜์™€ ์–ด๊นจ๋„ˆ๋จธ๋กœ ๋‚ด๋ ค๋‹ค ๋ดค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:47
My leg from the knee down
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๋ฌด๋ฆŽ ์•„๋ž˜๋กœ ์ œ ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๋Š”
07:49
is mangled beyond description.
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ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์„ ๋งŒํผ ์—‰๋ง์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
07:51
The bone is cracked.
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๋ผˆ๋Š” ๋ถ€์„œ์ง€๊ณ 
07:52
The meat is torn up.
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์‚ด์ ์ด ๋–จ์–ด์ ธ ๋‚˜๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:54
I make an instant decision that I'll never look at that again.
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์ €๋Š” ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ค์‹œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ๋ณด์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ๋กœ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
07:59
As I come out of the water,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌผ์—์„œ ๋น ์ ธ๋‚˜์˜ฌ ๋•Œ ์ฏค,
08:01
Solly arrives at a deep section,
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์†”๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‚ฌ์ด๋กœ
08:04
a channel between us.
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๋ฌผ์ด ๊นŠ์–ด์ง€๋Š” ๊ณณ์— ๋‹น๋„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:05
He knows, he sees the state of my leg,
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ . ์ œ ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ ์ƒํƒœ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์•˜๊ณ 
08:07
he knows that between him and I
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๊ทธ์™€ ์ € ์‚ฌ์ด์—๋Š”
08:09
there is a crocodile,
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์•…์–ด๊ฐ€ ์ž‡์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:10
and I can tell you this man doesn't slow down for one second.
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์†”๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹จ 1์ดˆ๋„ ๋จธ๋ญ‡๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ 
08:13
He comes straight into the channel.
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๊ทธ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ฌ๋ ค์™”์–ด์š”.
08:15
He wades in to above his waist.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ฐ€์Šด๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ฌผ์— ์ฐฌ ์ฑ„๋กœ ๋‹ค๊ฐ€์™€์„œ
08:17
He gets to me. He grabs me.
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์ €๋ฅผ ๋ถ™์žก์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:18
I'm still in a vulnerable position.
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์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ตฌ์š”.
08:20
He picks me and puts me on his shoulder.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ €๋ฅผ ์žก์•„ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์–ด๊นจ ์œ„๋กœ ์ €๋ฅผ ๊ฑธ์ณค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:21
This is the other thing about Solly, he's freakishly strong.
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์ด๊ฑด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์ธ๋ฐ, ์†”๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—„์ฒญ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํž˜์ด ์„ธ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
08:24
He turns. He walks me up the bank.
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์„ ๋Œ๋ ค ์ €๋ฅผ ๊ฐ•๋‘‘์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ๋ ค๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:26
He lays me down. He pulls his shirt off.
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์ €๋ฅผ ๋ˆ•ํžˆ๊ณ  ์ž๊ธฐ ์œ—์˜ท์„ ๋ฒ—์–ด
08:28
He wraps it around my leg,
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์ œ ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ŒŒ์–ด์š”.
08:30
picks me up a second time,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋Š” ์ €๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์—…๊ณ 
08:31
walks me to a vehicle,
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์ฐจ๋กœ ๋ฐ๋ ค๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:33
and he's able to get me to medical attention.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์น˜๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
08:37
And I survive.
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์ €๋Š” ์‚ด์•„๋‚จ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:40
Now โ€” (Applause)
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์Œ - (๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
08:44
Now I don't know how many people you know
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ์ค‘์— ์•…์–ด๊ฐ€ ์ˆจ์–ด์žˆ๋Š”
08:47
that go into a deep channel of water
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๊นŠ์€ ๋ฌผ์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€
08:49
that they know has a crocodile in it
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๋„์›€์„ ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„
08:51
to come and help you,
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๋ช‡ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋‚˜ ์•Œ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ
08:53
but for Solly, it was as natural as breathing.
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์†”๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ˆจ์‰ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋‹น์—ฐํ•œ ์ผ์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
08:56
And he is one amazing example
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด ์ „์ฒด์—์„œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ–ˆ๋˜
08:59
of what I have experienced all over Africa.
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๋†€๋ผ์šด ์˜ˆ ๊ฐ€์šด๋ฐ ํ•˜๋‚˜์—์š”.
09:02
In a more collective society,
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์ง‘๋‹จ์  ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์˜ ์‚ฌํšŒ์ผ์ˆ˜๋ก
09:04
we realize from the inside
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ํ–‰๋ณต์ด
09:07
that our own well-being is deeply tied
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ด๋“ค์˜ ํ–‰๋ณต๊ณผ ๊นŠ์€ ์—ฐ๊ด€์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„
09:10
to the well-being of others.
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๋‚ด๋ถ€๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:13
Danger is shared. Pain is shared.
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์œ„ํ—˜๋„ ๊ณ ํ†ต๋„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:17
Joy is shared. Achievement is shared.
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๊ธฐ์จ๋„ ์„ฑ๊ณต๋„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜์ง€์š”.
09:20
Houses are shared. Food is shared.
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์ง‘์ด๋‚˜ ์Œ์‹๋„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:24
Ubuntu asks us to open our hearts
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์šฐ๋ถ„ํˆฌ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งˆ์Œ์„ ์—ด๊ณ 
09:27
and to share,
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๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์นฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:29
and what Solly taught me that day
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๊ทธ๋‚  ์†”๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ œ๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์ณ ์ค€ ๊ฒƒ์€
09:31
is the essence of this value,
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ฐ€์น˜์˜ ์ •์ˆ˜์˜€์–ด์š”.
09:33
his animated, empathetic action
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๋งค ์ˆœ๊ฐ„ ํ™œ๊ธฐ์ฐจ๊ณ  ์ดํ•ด์‹ฌ ๊นŠ์€
09:36
in every moment.
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๊ทธ์˜ ํ–‰๋™๋„ ํฌํ•จํ•ด์„œ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
09:38
Now although the root word is about people,
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์ด์ œ ๊ทผ๋ณธ์ด ๋˜๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด์ง€๋งŒ
09:41
I thought that maybe ubuntu was only about people.
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ถ„ํˆฌ๋Š” ๋‹จ์ง€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:44
And then I met this young lady.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋Š” ์ €๋Š” ์ด ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์•„๊ฐ€์”จ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:48
Her name was Elvis.
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๊ทธ ๋…€์„์˜ ์ด๋ฆ„์€ ์—˜๋น„์Šค์—์š”.
09:49
In fact, Solly gave her the name Elvis
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์†”๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง€์–ด์ค€ ์ด๋ฆ„์ธ๋ฐ์š”.
09:51
because he said she walked like she was doing
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์†”๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋…€์„์ด ์—˜๋น„์Šค ํ”„๋ ˆ์Šฌ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€
09:54
the Elvis the pelvis dance.
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์ถค์ถ”๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ฑท๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ง€์–ด์ค€ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:57
She was born with very badly deformed back legs and pelvis.
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๊ทธ ๋…€์„์€ ๊ณจ๋ฐ˜๊ณผ ๋’ท๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‹ฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํœœ ์ƒํƒœ๋กœ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:01
She arrived at our reserve from a reserve
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๊ทธ ๋…€์„์€ ์ด๋™ ์ค‘์—, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋˜ ๋ณดํ˜ธ ๊ตฌ์—ญ์˜
10:03
east of us on her migratory route.
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๋™์ชฝ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ณดํ˜ธ ๊ตฌ์—ญ์—์„œ ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:05
When I first saw her,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ๋…€์„์„ ์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ ๋ดค์„ ๋•Œ
10:07
I thought she would be dead in a matter of days.
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๋ฉฐ์น  ๋‚ด๋กœ ์ฃฝ์„๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
10:10
And yet, for the next five years
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ 5๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ
10:13
she returned in the winter months.
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๊ทธ ๋…€์„์€ ๊ฒจ์šธ๋งˆ๋‹ค ๋˜๋Œ์•„ ์™”์–ด์š”.
10:15
And we would be so excited to be out in the bush
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ˆฒ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€
10:17
and to come across this unusual track.
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ๋…€์„์„ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ํฅ๋ถ„ํ•˜๊ณค ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
10:20
It looked like an inverted bracket,
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๊ทธ ๋…€์„์€ ๋งˆ์น˜ ๋’ค์ง‘์–ด์ง„ ๊ด„ํ˜ธ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ƒ๊ฒผ๋Š”๋ฐ
10:21
and we would drop whatever we were doing and we would follow,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋˜ ์ผ์„ ์ œ์ณ๋†“๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๋…€์„์„ ๋”ฐ๋ผ๊ฐ€๊ณค ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
10:24
and then we would come around the corner,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋Š” ๊ธธ๋ชจํ‰์ด๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ฐ€๋ฉด
10:26
and there she would be with her herd.
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๊ทธ ๋…€์„์€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฌด๋ฆฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ๊ณค ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
10:28
And that outpouring of emotion
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํƒ„ ์‚ฌํŒŒ๋ฆฌ ํŠธ๋Ÿญ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
10:30
from people on our safari trucks
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๊ทธ๋…€์„์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์• ์ž”ํ•œ ๋งˆ์Œ์„ ์Ÿ์•„๋‚ด๊ณค ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
10:32
as they saw her, it was this sense of kinship.
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์—ฐ๋Œ€๊ฐ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
10:35
And it reminded me
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ œ๊ฒŒ
10:37
that even people who grow up in cities
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์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ๋„์‹œ์—์„œ ์ž๋ž€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋„
10:39
feel a natural connection
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์ž์—ฐ ์„ธ๊ณ„๋‚˜ ๋™๋ฌผ๊ณผ ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฐ ์—ฐ๋Œ€๊ฐ์„ ๋Š๋‚€๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„
10:42
with the natural world and with animals.
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์ œ๊ฒŒ ์ผ๊นจ์›Œ ์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:45
And yet still I remained amazed that she was surviving.
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์–ด์จŒ๋“  ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋…€์„์ด ์•„์ง ์‚ด์•„์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋†€๋ผ์›€์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
10:48
And then one day we came across them at this small water hole.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ค ์–ด๋Š ๋‚ , ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋ฌด๋ฆฌ์™€ ์ด ์ž‘์€ ์ƒ˜์—์„œ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
10:51
It was sort of a hollow in the ground.
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์ง€๋ฉด์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์›…๋ฉ์ด ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
10:53
And I watched as the matriarch drank,
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์ €๋Š” ๋ฌด๋ฆฌ์˜ ์šฐ๋‘๋จธ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌผ ๋งˆ์‹œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ดค๋Š”๋ฐ
10:56
and then she turned in that beautiful slow motion of elephants,
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๊ทธ ๋…€์„์ด ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์ฝ”๋ผ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋Š๋ฆฐ ์›€์ง์ž„์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
10:59
looks like the arm in motion,
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๋งˆ์น˜ ํŒ”์ด ์›€์ง์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•˜์ฃ .
11:01
and she began to make her way up the steep bank.
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๊ทธ ๋…€์„์€ ๊ฐ€ํŒŒ๋ฅธ ๋น„ํƒˆ์„ ์˜ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ€๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
11:04
The rest of the herd turned and began to follow.
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๋ฌด๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋‚˜๋จธ์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋”ฐ๋ฅด๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:08
And I watched young Elvis
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์ €๋Š” ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์—˜๋น„์Šค๊ฐ€
11:10
begin to psych herself up for the hill.
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์–ธ๋•์„ ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์˜ค๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ดค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:13
She got visibly -- ears came forward,
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๊ทธ ๋…€์„์€ ๋ˆˆ์— ๋„์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ๊ท€๋ฅผ ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜๊ณ 
11:17
she had a full go of it and halfway up,
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์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ ๊ฑธ์–ด ๋ฐ˜์ฏค ์˜ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ”๋Š”๋ฐ
11:19
her legs gave way, and she fell backwards.
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๊ทธ๋งŒ ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ’€๋ ค ๋’ค๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:21
She attempted it a second time,
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๊ทธ ๋…€์„์€ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์‹œ๋„ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
11:23
and again, halfway up, she fell backwards.
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๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ์ค‘๊ฐ„ ์ฏค์—์„œ ๋’ค๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:26
And on the third attempt,
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์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์‹œ๋„์—์„œ
11:28
an amazing thing happened.
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๋†€๋ผ์šด ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ์ฃ .
11:30
Halfway up the bank,
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๋น„ํƒˆ์„ ๋ฐ˜์ฏค ์˜ฌ๋ž์„ ๋•Œ,
11:32
a young teenage elephant came in behind her,
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์ Š์€ ์ฝ”๋ผ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ๋…€์„์˜ ๋’ค๋กœ ๊ฐ€์„œ
11:35
and he propped his trunk underneath her,
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๊ทธ ๋…€์„์˜ ์•„๋ž˜์ชฝ์œผ๋กœ ์ฝ”๋ฅผ ๋ฐ€์–ด๋„ฃ๋”๋‹ˆ
11:38
and he began to shovel her up the bank.
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๋น„ํƒˆ ์œ„์ชฝ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ€์–ด ์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
11:41
And it occurred to me
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์ œ๊ฒŒ ๋“  ์ƒ๊ฐ์€
11:42
that the rest of the herd
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๋ฌด๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ฝ”๋ผ๋ฆฌ๋“ค์ด
11:44
was in fact looking after this young elephant.
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์ด ์–ด๋ฆฐ ๊ผฌ๋ผ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ƒ ๋Œ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:46
The next day I watched again
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๋‹ค์Œ ๋‚  ์ €๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ
11:49
as the matriarch broke a branch
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๋ฌด๋ฆฌ์˜ ์šฐ๋‘๋จธ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜๋ญ‡๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ๊บฝ์–ด
11:51
and she would put it in her mouth,
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์ž์‹ ์˜ ์ž…์— ๋„ฃ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ดค๋Š”๋ฐ
11:53
and then she would break a second one
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์šฐ๋‘๋จธ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‘๋ฒˆ์งธ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ๊บฝ์–ด
11:55
and drop it on the ground.
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๊ทธ๊ฑธ ๋•…์— ๋†“์•„ ์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:58
And a consensus developed between all of us
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๊ทธ ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์•ˆ๋‚ดํ•˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋‘ ์‚ฌ์ด์—๋Š”
12:00
who were guiding people in that area
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์ผ์ข…์˜ ํ•ฉ์˜๊ฐ€ ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ์–ด์š”.
12:02
that that herd was in fact moving slower
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๊ทธ ๋ฌด๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ƒ ๊ทธ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์ฝ”๋ผ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ
12:05
to accommodate that elephant.
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๋ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋Š๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ์ด๋™ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
12:09
What Elvis and the herd taught me
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์—˜๋น„์Šค์™€ ๊ทธ ๋ฌด๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ œ๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์ณ ์ค€ ๊ฒƒ์€
12:11
caused me to expand my definition of ubuntu,
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์šฐ๋ถ„ํˆฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ œ ์ •์˜๋ฅผ ๋„“ํ˜€์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:14
and I believe that in the cathedral of the wild,
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์ €๋Š” ์•ผ์ƒ์˜ ์™•๊ตญ์—์„œ
12:17
we get to see the most beautiful parts of ourselves
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋ชจ์Šต์ด ํˆฌ์˜๋œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์žฅ๋ฉด์„ ๋ณธ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ 
12:19
reflected back at us.
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๋ฏฟ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:21
And it is not only through other people
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ธ๊ฐ„์„ฑ์„ ๋Š๋ผ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
12:25
that we get to experience our humanity
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ด๋“ค์„ ํ†ตํ•ด์„œ ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
12:28
but through all the creatures that live on this planet.
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์ด ์ง€๊ตฌ์ƒ์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ƒ๋ช…์ฒด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด์„œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:32
If Africa has a gift to share,
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์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด์— ๊ณต์œ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์„ ๋ฌผ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
12:34
it's a gift of a more collective society.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ณด๋‹ค ์ง‘๋‹จ์ ์ธ ์‚ฌํšŒ๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์ด์—์š”.
12:38
And while it's true that ubuntu is an African idea,
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์šฐ๋ถ„ํˆฌ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด์˜ ์ •์‹ ์ด๊ธฐ๋Š” ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
12:42
what I see is the essence of that value
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณธ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด์ง€๋Š”
12:47
being invented here.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฐ€์น˜์˜ ์ •์ˆ˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:49
Thank you.
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:51
(Applause)
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(๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
13:16
Pat Mitchell: So Boyd,
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ํŒป ๋ฏธ์ฒผ: ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ๋ณด์ด๋“œ,
13:17
we know that you knew President Mandela
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งŒ๋ธ๋ผ ๋Œ€ํ†ต๋ น๊ณผ
13:22
from early childhood
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์•„๋ฆด ๋•Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์•„๋Š” ์‚ฌ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•Œ๊ฒ ๋Š”๋ฐ
13:24
and that you heard the news as we all did today,
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ๊ทธ ๋‰ด์Šค๋„ ๋“ค์œผ์…จ๊ฒ ์ฃ .
13:27
and deeply distraught
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ •๋ง ์‹ฌ๋ž€ํ•˜๊ณ 
13:30
and know the tragic loss that it is to the world.
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์„ธ์ƒ์—๋Š” ๋น„๊ทน์ ์ธ ์†์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:34
But I just wondered if you wanted
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€
13:36
to share any additional thoughts,
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๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์œผ์‹  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:38
because we know that you heard that news
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๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ์ด ๊ฐ•์—ฐ์— ์˜ค๊ธฐ ์ง์ „์—
13:40
just before coming in to do this session.
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๊ทธ ๋‰ด์Šค๋ฅผ ๋“ค์œผ์…จ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
13:44
Boyd Varty: Well thanks, Pat.
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๋ณด์ด๋“œ ๋ฐ”๋ฅดํ‹ฐ: ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ํŒป.
13:45
I'm so happy because it was time for him to pass on.
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๊ทธ ๋ถ„์ด ์ง์„ ๋„˜๊ฒจ์ค„ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๋˜์–ด์„œ ๋งˆ์Œ์ด ๋†“์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:48
He was suffering.
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๊ทธ ๋ถ„์€ ๊ณ ํ†ต๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ์…จ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
13:50
And so of course there's the mixed emotions.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ฐ์ •์ด ๊ต์ฐจํ•˜๋Š” ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด์—์š”.
13:53
But I just think of so many occurrences
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
13:55
like the time he went on the Oprah show
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๊ทธ ๋ถ„์ด ์˜คํ”„๋ผ ์‡ผ์— ๋‚˜๊ฐ€์…”์„œ
13:57
and asked her what the show would be about.
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๊ทธ ์‡ผ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ค ํ˜•์‹์˜ ์‡ผ์ธ์ง€ ๋ฌผ์œผ์…จ๋˜ ์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋“ฑ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:00
(Laughter)
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14:01
And she was like, "Well, it'll be about you."
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์˜คํ”„๋ผ๊ฐ€ "๋‹น์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์‡ผ์—์š”."๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
14:05
I mean, that's just incredible humility.
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋†€๋ผ์šธ ์ •๋„์˜ ๊ฒธ์†ํ•จ์ด์—์š”.
14:07
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
14:11
He was the father of our nation
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๊ทธ๋ถ„์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋‚˜๋ผ์˜ ๊ตญ๋ถ€์˜€๊ณ 
14:14
and we've got a road to walk in South Africa.
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๋‚จ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์•„๊ฐˆ ๊ธธ์„ ์ฃผ์‹ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
14:21
And everything, they used to call it Madiba magic.
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๊ทธ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋งˆ๋””๋ฐ”(๋งŒ๋ธ๋ผ์˜ ์• ์นญ)์˜ ๋งˆ์ˆ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:24
You know, he used to go to a rugby match and we would win.
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๊ทธ ๋ถ„์ด ๋Ÿญ๋น„ ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐ€์‹ค ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์Šน๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ณค ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:27
Anywhere he went, things went well.
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๊ทธ ๋ถ„์ด ์–ด๋””์— ๊ฐ€์‹œ๋“  ์ผ์ด ์ž˜ ํ’€๋ ธ์–ด์š”.
14:30
But I think that magic will be with us,
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋งˆ์ˆ ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:33
and the important thing is that we carry
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ ๋ถ„์ด ํ–‰ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์„
14:36
what he stood for.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด์–ด๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์ด์ฃ .
14:38
And so that's what I'm going to try and do,
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉด ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋žŒ์ด๊ณ  ๋˜ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:41
and that's what people all over South Africa are trying to do.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๋‚จ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด ์ „์—ญ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ด๋ฃจ๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ”์ด๊ฒ ์ง€์š”.
14:44
PM: And that's what you've done today. BV: Oh, thank you.
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ํŒป ๋ฏธ์ฒผ: ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์˜ค๋Š˜ ํ•˜์‹  ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ณด์ด๋“œ ๋งˆ๋ฅดํŠธ: ์•„, ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:46
PM: Thank you. BV: Thank you. Thanks very much.
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ํŒป ๋ฏธ์ฒผ: ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ณด์ด๋“œ ๋งˆ๋ฅดํŠธ: ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ€๋‹จํžˆ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:50
(Applause)
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์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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