Boyd Varty: What I learned from Nelson Mandela

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翻译人员: Tingyu Qiu 校对人员: Samson Zhong
00:12
I'm a man who's trying to live from his heart,
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此刻的我只想表达内心的感觉
所以在切入主题之前
00:16
and so just before I get going,
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00:19
I wanted to tell you as a South African
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身为南非人的我要告诉你们
00:21
that one of the men who has inspired me most
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一位鼓舞我至深的人
00:24
passed away a few hours ago.
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几小时前去世了
00:27
Nelson Mandela has come to the end
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纳尔逊•曼德拉(Nelson Mandela)毕生为自由奋斗
00:30
of his long walk to freedom.
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终告躹躬尽粹
00:33
And so this talk is going to be for him.
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因此我以这场演说向他致敬
00:40
I grew up in wonder.
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我的成长经历充满惊奇
00:43
I grew up amongst those animals.
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从小就与动物相伴
00:47
I grew up in the wild eastern part of South Africa
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因为我在南非东部的荒野中长大
00:51
at a place called Londolozi Game Reserve.
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在一个叫伦多洛兹(Londolozi)的保育区
00:54
It's a place where my family has been
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我们家在当地经营生态游猎
00:57
in the safari business for four generations.
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已有四代之久
01:01
Now for as long as I can remember,
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就我记忆所及
01:03
my job has been to take people out into nature,
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我的工作就是带人走进大自然
01:08
and so I think it's a lovely twist of fate today
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所以我觉得今天因缘际会
01:11
to have the opportunity
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让我有机会
01:13
to bring some of my experiences out in nature
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把我在大自然中的经验
01:16
in to this gathering.
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在此分享
01:18
Africa is a place
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非洲是一处
01:20
where people still sit under starlit skies
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人们可在星空下
01:23
and around campfires and tell stories,
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围坐篝火边讲故事的地方
01:27
and so what I have to share with you today
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所以今天我要与各位分享的
01:29
is the simple medicine of a few campfire stories,
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是几段简单的「围炉夜语」
01:34
stories about heroes of heart.
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都与勇敢的好汉相关
01:37
Now my stories are not the stories
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我要讲的故事
01:39
that you'll hear on the news,
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不是新闻会播报的那种
01:41
and while it's true that Africa is a harsh place,
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非洲确实是个艰困的地方
01:44
I also know it to be a place
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但我也知道此处的
01:46
where people, animals and ecosystems
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人类、 动物和生态系统
01:50
teach us about a more interconnected world.
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让我们见识了更紧密相连的脉络
01:54
When I was nine years old,
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我九岁的时候
01:56
President Mandela came to stay with my family.
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曼德拉总统来我家住
01:59
He had just been released from his 27 years of incarceration,
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那时他刚从27年的监禁中获释
02:03
and was in a period of readjustment
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还无法完全适应自己
02:06
to his sudden global icon status.
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突然变成全球注目的焦点
02:08
Members of the African National Congress
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非洲民族议会的议员以为
02:11
thought that in the bush
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在丛林中
02:13
he would have time to rest and recuperate
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他会有休养生息的机会
02:15
away from the public eye,
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摆脱众人的眼光
02:17
and it's true that lions tend to be
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而狮群确能有效吓阻
02:20
a very good deterrent to press and paparazzi.
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媒体和狗仔队
02:24
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
02:26
But it was a defining time for me as a young boy.
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对年幼的我来说,当时的影响至关重大
02:29
I would take him breakfast in bed,
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我会送早餐到他床边,
02:31
and then, in an old track suit and slippers,
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之后穿着旧运动服和拖鞋
02:33
he would go for a walk around the garden.
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他会在花园里散步
02:36
At night, I would sit with my family
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晚上,我和家人则围坐在
02:38
around the snowy, bunny-eared TV,
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画面有杂纹的天线电视旁
02:40
and watch images of that same
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花园里那个沉默的身影
02:43
quiet man from the garden
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就是我们在电视上看到
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surrounded by hundreds and thousands of people
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那个被人海包围的人
02:48
as scenes from his release were broadcast nightly.
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晚间播出的是他获释的镜头
02:51
He was bringing peace
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那时他正以非凡的仁心
02:53
to a divided and violent South Africa,
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为动荡分歧的南非
02:56
one man with an unbelievable sense of his humanity.
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带来和平
03:01
Mandela said often that the gift of prison
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曼德拉常说,坐牢的好处就是
03:04
was the ability to go within and to think,
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有办法内省、思考
03:07
to create in himself
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并在心中擘划
03:08
the things he most wanted for South Africa:
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他最想为南非做的事情:
03:11
peace, reconciliation, harmony.
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和平、 和解、 和谐
03:15
Through this act of immense open-heartedness,
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透过这种极为宽厚的胸怀
03:17
he was to become the embodiment
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他后来注定要成为
03:20
of what in South Africa we call "ubuntu."
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南非当地所谓「ubuntu」的象征
03:23
Ubuntu: I am because of you.
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意思是「是你造就了我!」
03:26
Or, people are not people
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也可以说,若没有彼此
03:29
without other people.
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人无法成就自己
03:31
It's not a new idea or value
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这不是新的概念或价值观
03:33
but it's one that I certainly think at these times
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却是我最近认为
03:35
is worth building on.
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值得加以阐扬的理念
03:37
In fact, it is said that in the collective consciousness of Africa,
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事实上有此一说,非洲人都相信
03:40
we get to experience the deepest parts
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透过与他人的互动
03:42
of our own humanity
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我们得以体认
03:43
through our interactions with others.
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自己最深切的人性
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Ubuntu is at play right now.
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我们现场就体现了Ubuntu
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You are holding a space for me
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你们创造了这个场合
03:50
to express the deepest truth of who I am.
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让我得以表达最真切的自己
03:54
Without you, I'm just a guy talking to an empty room,
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没有各位,我不过是空房独语
03:56
and I spent a lot of time last week doing that,
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尽管上礼拜我常这样做
03:59
and it's not the same as this.
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但表现差多了!
04:02
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
04:05
If Mandela was the national and international embodiment,
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若国内和国际性的Ubuntu代表是曼德拉
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then the man who taught me the most
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那关于这种价值
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about this value personally was this man,
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教我最多的是这个人
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Solly Mhlongo.
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萨利 穆朗戈 (Solly Mhlongo)
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Solly was born under a tree
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萨利是在树下出生的
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60 kilometers from where I grew up in Mozambique.
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离我长大的莫桑比克的60 公里远
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He would never have a lot of money,
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他向来不怎么富裕
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but he was to be
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但我遇过最富足的人当中
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one of the richest men I would ever meet.
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他是其中一位
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Solly grew up tending to his father's cattle.
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萨利从小就为父亲照顾牛只
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Now, I can tell you, I don't know what it is about people who grow up looking after cattle,
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我无法体会自小放牧的生活
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but it makes for über-resourcefulness.
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但这种成长环境造就顶尖的本领
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The first job that he ever got in the safari business
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他在游猎这行的首份工作
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was fixing the safari trucks.
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是修理游猎车(safari trucks)
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Where he had learned to do that out in the bush
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至于在丛林长大的他怎么会这个
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I have no idea, but he could do it.
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我无从得知,但他确实能修理
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He then moved across into what we called
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后来他转行到我们所谓的
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the habitat team.
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栖地团队
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These were the people on the reserve
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也就是维持
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who were responsible for its well-being.
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保护区完善的一群人
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He fixed roads, he mended wetlands,
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他修整道路,复育湿地
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he did some anti-poaching.
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也参与防堵盗猎
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And then one day we were out together,
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有天我们一起出去
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and he came across the tracks of where a female leopard had walked.
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他看到一只雌豹
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And it was an old track,
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留下的旧足迹
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but for fun he turned and he began to follow it,
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为了好玩,他转身追踪
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and I tell you, I could tell by the speed
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我告诉你,从他循迹追踪的速度
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at which he moved on those pad marks
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我看得出来
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that this man was a Ph.D.-level tracker.
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这家伙是博士级的追踪者
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If you drove past Solly
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如果你在保护区开车
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somewhere out on the reserve,
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与萨利擦身而过
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you look up in your rearview mirror,
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抬头看一下后照镜
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you'd see he'd stopped the car
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就会发现他往前开20或50米
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20, 50 meters down the road
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就会停在路边
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just in case you need help with something.
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看看你有无不时之需
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The only accusation I ever heard leveled at him
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我所听过,针对他的唯一指控
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was when one of our clients said,
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就是我们的一位游客说:
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"Solly, you are pathologically helpful."
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「萨利,你乐于助人的毛病就是改不了!」
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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When I started professionally guiding people
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当我成为专业的
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out into this environment,
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本地导览员时
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Solly was my tracker.
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萨利是我的追踪者
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We worked together as a team.
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我俩团队合作
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And the first guests we ever got
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我们的第一批客人
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were a philanthropy group from your East Coast,
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是美东来的一个慈善团体
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and they said to Solly, on the side, they said,
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他们悄悄对萨利说:
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"Before we even go out to see lions and leopards,
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「在我们出去看狮子和猎豹前,
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we want to see where you live."
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我们想先看看你住的地方。」
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So we took them up to his house,
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所以我们就带他们去
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and this visit of the philanthropist to his house
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他们到萨利家拜访时,
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coincided with a time when Solly's wife,
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正好萨利的妻子
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who was learning English,
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在家学英语
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was going through a phase where she would open the door
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她正处于练习开门问候语的阶段:
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by saying, "Hello, I love you.
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「你好,我爱你。
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Welcome, I love you." (Laughter)
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欢迎,我爱你。」(笑声)
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And there was something so beautifully African
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在我看来,非洲的美在于
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about it to me, this small house
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住家虽小
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with a huge heart in it.
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但主人慷慨大气
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Now on the day that Solly saved my life,
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话说从救我的那天后
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he was already my hero.
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我就把萨利当英雄
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It was a hot day,
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那天很热
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and we found ourselves down by the river.
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我们在一条河边
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Because of the heat, I took my shoes off,
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由于太热,我脱掉鞋子
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and I rolled up my pants,
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卷起裤管
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and I walked into the water.
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走入水中
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Solly remained on the bank.
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萨利仍待在岸边
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The water was clear running over sand,
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清澈的河水流过沙滩
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and we turned and we began to make our way upstream.
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我们转身溯河而上
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And a few meters ahead of us,
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在前方几米处
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there was a place where a tree had fallen out of the bank,
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岸边有棵树倒落河滨
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and its branches were touching the water,
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枝干已没入水面
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and it was shadowy.
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形成一片阴影
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And if had been a horror movie,
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若是恐怖片
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people in the audience would have started saying,
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观众里会冒出这样的话:
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"Don't go in there. Don't go in there." (Laughter)
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「别去!不要啊!」(笑声)
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And of course, the crocodile was in the shadows.
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果然,暗处有鳄鱼藏身
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Now the first thing that you notice when a crocodile hits you
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被鳄鱼袭击的话,首先感到的
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is the ferocity of the bite.
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是牠凶残的撕咬
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Wham! It hits me by my right leg.
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一声巨响! 我感觉右腿被咬了
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It pulls me. It turns. I throw my hand up. I'm able to grab a branch.
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牠甩头拉扯,我一手攀住树干
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It's shaking me violently.
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这时鳄鱼也剧烈地摇晃我,
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It's a very strange sensation
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另一种生物想要吃你时
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having another creature try and eat you,
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那感觉难以言喻
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and there are few things that promote vegetarianism like that.
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若要提倡素食,很少有比这效果更好的!
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
07:24
Solly on the bank sees that I'm in trouble.
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岸上的萨利见我身陷险境
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He turns. He begins to make his way to me.
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急忙转身赶来救我
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The croc again continues to shake me.
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这时鳄鱼再度摆头摇晃
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It goes to bite me a second time.
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并咬我
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I notice a slick of blood in the water around me
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我发现河面一抹血迹
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that gets washed downstream.
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顺流而下
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As it bites the second time, I kick.
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鳄鱼再度咬我时,我踢了一下
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My foot goes down its throat. It spits me out.
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一脚深入鳄鱼喉咙,牠才松口
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I pull myself up into the branches,
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我攀上树枝
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and as I come out of the water, I look over my shoulder.
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离开水面后,我回头一看
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My leg from the knee down
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我被咬的那脚,膝盖以下
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is mangled beyond description.
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伤势惨不忍睹
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The bone is cracked.
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除了骨折
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The meat is torn up.
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肌肉组织也遭撕裂
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I make an instant decision that I'll never look at that again.
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我当机立断不要再看
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As I come out of the water,
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我离开水面时
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Solly arrives at a deep section,
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萨利也来到我们之间
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a channel between us.
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水位较深的地方
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He knows, he sees the state of my leg,
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他明白是怎么回事,包括我的腿伤
08:07
he knows that between him and I
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也知道我们之间
08:09
there is a crocodile,
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有一条鳄鱼
08:10
and I can tell you this man doesn't slow down for one second.
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说来你也许不信,他毫不迟疑
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He comes straight into the channel.
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就直接进入深水区
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He wades in to above his waist.
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他涉水而来时,水位过腰
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He gets to me. He grabs me.
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接着到我身边抓住我
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I'm still in a vulnerable position.
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当时我仍在鳄鱼的攻击范围内
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He picks me and puts me on his shoulder.
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抱起我后,他把我背在肩上
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This is the other thing about Solly, he's freakishly strong.
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萨利的另一项特质就是极其强壮
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He turns. He walks me up the bank.
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他转身带我上岸
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He lays me down. He pulls his shirt off.
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放下我后,他脱下衬衫
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He wraps it around my leg,
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来包扎我的伤腿
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picks me up a second time,
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然后再把我抱起
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walks me to a vehicle,
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走到车上
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and he's able to get me to medical attention.
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并送我就医
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And I survive.
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我才大难不死
08:40
Now — (Applause)
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(掌声)
08:44
Now I don't know how many people you know
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我不知各位认识的人当中
08:47
that go into a deep channel of water
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有多少即使知道水中有鳄鱼
08:49
that they know has a crocodile in it
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仍愿冒险犯难
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to come and help you,
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去帮你一把
08:53
but for Solly, it was as natural as breathing.
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但对萨利来说,这是稀松平常的道理
08:56
And he is one amazing example
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他是我在非洲的经历中
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of what I have experienced all over Africa.
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一个令人惊异的榜样
09:02
In a more collective society,
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在群体关系更紧密的社会中
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we realize from the inside
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人们打从心底明白
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that our own well-being is deeply tied
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彼此的幸福
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to the well-being of others.
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是密切相关的
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Danger is shared. Pain is shared.
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危险与痛苦一起承担
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Joy is shared. Achievement is shared.
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喜悦和成就也要共享
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Houses are shared. Food is shared.
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住所和食物也不例外
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Ubuntu asks us to open our hearts
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Ubuntu 就是要人敞开心房
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and to share,
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与人分享
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and what Solly taught me that day
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那天我从萨利身上学到的
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is the essence of this value,
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正是Ubuntu的本质
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his animated, empathetic action
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他行动间总是活力充沛
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in every moment.
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且善体人意
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Now although the root word is about people,
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虽然ubuntu的字根舆人有关
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I thought that maybe ubuntu was only about people.
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我也曾以为这是唯一的解释
09:44
And then I met this young lady.
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直到我遇见这头
09:48
Her name was Elvis.
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名叫猫王(Elvis)的母象
09:49
In fact, Solly gave her the name Elvis
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事实上,萨利给她取这名字
09:51
because he said she walked like she was doing
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据他说是因为她的步伐
09:54
the Elvis the pelvis dance.
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就像猫王的扭臀舞
09:57
She was born with very badly deformed back legs and pelvis.
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她的后腿和骨盆先天严重变形
10:01
She arrived at our reserve from a reserve
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是从我们这个保护区的东边
10:03
east of us on her migratory route.
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另一个在她迁徙路径上的保护区来的
10:05
When I first saw her,
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我第一次看到这头母象
10:07
I thought she would be dead in a matter of days.
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一度认为她来日无多
10:10
And yet, for the next five years
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然而,往后的五年
10:13
she returned in the winter months.
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她都会在冬季回来
10:15
And we would be so excited to be out in the bush
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那时我们会因为在野外发现
10:17
and to come across this unusual track.
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她与众不同的足迹而兴奋不已
10:20
It looked like an inverted bracket,
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那足迹像是反向的括号
10:21
and we would drop whatever we were doing and we would follow,
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这时我们定会放下手边的事
10:24
and then we would come around the corner,
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前往她和所属象群
10:26
and there she would be with her herd.
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所在的地方
10:28
And that outpouring of emotion
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游猎车上的人看到「猫王」时
10:30
from people on our safari trucks
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都洋溢着感情
10:32
as they saw her, it was this sense of kinship.
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就是这种亲切感
10:35
And it reminded me
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提醒了我一件事
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that even people who grow up in cities
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即使是在城市长大的人
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feel a natural connection
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对自然界及其中的生物
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with the natural world and with animals.
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仍会本能地感到亲切
10:45
And yet still I remained amazed that she was surviving.
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直到那时我仍很讶异她能活下来
10:48
And then one day we came across them at this small water hole.
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有天我们在这小水塘边遇到该象群
10:51
It was sort of a hollow in the ground.
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那水塘陷入地表
10:53
And I watched as the matriarch drank,
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为首的母象喝水时,我在旁看着
10:56
and then she turned in that beautiful slow motion of elephants,
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然后她以大象优雅缓慢的动作转身
10:59
looks like the arm in motion,
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摆动的象鼻宛如挥舞的手臂
11:01
and she began to make her way up the steep bank.
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只见她奋力爬上陡峭的边坡
11:04
The rest of the herd turned and began to follow.
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其他成员也转身跟进
11:08
And I watched young Elvis
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我注视着年纪尙轻的「猫王」
11:10
begin to psych herself up for the hill.
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开始为爬坡作好准备
11:13
She got visibly -- ears came forward,
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她双耳明显前翻
11:17
she had a full go of it and halfway up,
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奋力一试,爬至半途
11:19
her legs gave way, and she fell backwards.
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腿力不济,又滑了下来。
11:21
She attempted it a second time,
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于是她再试一次
11:23
and again, halfway up, she fell backwards.
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但也是无功而返
11:26
And on the third attempt,
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就在她第三度尝试时
11:28
an amazing thing happened.
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不可思议的事发生了
11:30
Halfway up the bank,
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就在她爬到半途时
11:32
a young teenage elephant came in behind her,
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一只年轻的大象来到她身后
11:35
and he propped his trunk underneath her,
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用象鼻托住她
11:38
and he began to shovel her up the bank.
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然后把她送上岸
11:41
And it occurred to me
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我还想到一件事
11:42
that the rest of the herd
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就是其他象群成员
11:44
was in fact looking after this young elephant.
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其实也在照顾「猫王」
11:46
The next day I watched again
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隔天我又观察到
11:49
as the matriarch broke a branch
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带头的母象折了一根树枝
11:51
and she would put it in her mouth,
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放进嘴里后
11:53
and then she would break a second one
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会再折一枝
11:55
and drop it on the ground.
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扔在地上
11:58
And a consensus developed between all of us
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我们那里的向导
12:00
who were guiding people in that area
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一致认为
12:02
that that herd was in fact moving slower
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象群为顾及这头小母象
12:05
to accommodate that elephant.
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实际上减缓了行进速度
12:09
What Elvis and the herd taught me
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我从牠们身上得到的领悟
12:11
caused me to expand my definition of ubuntu,
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让我对ubuntu有更广泛的定义
12:14
and I believe that in the cathedral of the wild,
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我相信在神圣的荒野中
12:17
we get to see the most beautiful parts of ourselves
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我们会有机会
12:19
reflected back at us.
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看见自己最良善的特质
12:21
And it is not only through other people
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透过他人
12:25
that we get to experience our humanity
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我们可体认自身的人性
12:28
but through all the creatures that live on this planet.
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但所有地球生物也能让我们有此体悟
12:32
If Africa has a gift to share,
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如果非洲有值得分享的地方
12:34
it's a gift of a more collective society.
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那就是更紧密共荣的社会
12:38
And while it's true that ubuntu is an African idea,
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Ubuntu 确实是非洲的价值观
12:42
what I see is the essence of that value
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但我目睹这个价值的精髓
12:47
being invented here.
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在此形成
12:49
Thank you.
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谢谢大家
12:51
(Applause)
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(掌声)
13:16
Pat Mitchell: So Boyd,
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帕特 • 米切尔(Pat Mitchell): 博伊德(Boyd)
13:17
we know that you knew President Mandela
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我们知道你自小
13:22
from early childhood
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就认识曼德拉总统
13:24
and that you heard the news as we all did today,
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今天你我都听到了那条新闻
13:27
and deeply distraught
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大家同样深感难过又茫然
13:30
and know the tragic loss that it is to the world.
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明白这对世界而言是一大损失
13:34
But I just wondered if you wanted
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但我想知道你是否
13:36
to share any additional thoughts,
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还有其他要说的?
13:38
because we know that you heard that news
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因为我们知道你在演讲前
13:40
just before coming in to do this session.
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才听到噩耗
13:44
Boyd Varty: Well thanks, Pat.
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博伊德•瓦提(Boyd Varty):帕特
13:45
I'm so happy because it was time for him to pass on.
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我很庆幸他终于解脱
13:48
He was suffering.
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毕竟他受尽折磨
13:50
And so of course there's the mixed emotions.
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不用说我也是五味杂陈
13:53
But I just think of so many occurrences
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但我回想起无数情景
13:55
like the time he went on the Oprah show
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比如当他上奥普拉(Oprah)的谈话秀
13:57
and asked her what the show would be about.
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还问她该集节目内容
14:00
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
14:01
And she was like, "Well, it'll be about you."
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奥普拉回答:「会跟你有关!」
14:05
I mean, that's just incredible humility.
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我的意思是这问题多谦卑!
14:07
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
14:11
He was the father of our nation
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他是南非国父
14:14
and we've got a road to walk in South Africa.
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而南非未来的路还很长
14:21
And everything, they used to call it Madiba magic.
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南非人曾称诸如此类的事叫「曼德拉奇迹」
14:24
You know, he used to go to a rugby match and we would win.
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他去看橄榄球比赛我们就赢了
14:27
Anywhere he went, things went well.
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他所到之处,万事如意
14:30
But I think that magic will be with us,
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但我相信这奇迹将长伴我们
14:33
and the important thing is that we carry
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最重要的是
14:36
what he stood for.
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我们都背负他所坚持的信念
14:38
And so that's what I'm going to try and do,
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那不仅是我要尝试的
14:41
and that's what people all over South Africa are trying to do.
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也是全体南非人想要做的
14:44
PM: And that's what you've done today. BV: Oh, thank you.
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帕特:你今天就做到了! 博伊德::喔,谢谢你!
14:46
PM: Thank you. BV: Thank you. Thanks very much.
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帕特: 谢谢你。 博伊德:非常感谢你。感激不尽!
14:50
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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