Boyd Varty: What I learned from Nelson Mandela

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Translator: Laura Rodríguez López Reviewer: Alicia Ferreiro
00:12
I'm a man who's trying to live from his heart,
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Son un home que intenta vivir seguindo o seu corazón,
00:16
and so just before I get going,
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e antes de que me vaia,
00:19
I wanted to tell you as a South African
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quería contarvos como Sudafricano
00:21
that one of the men who has inspired me most
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que un dos homes que máis me inspirou
00:24
passed away a few hours ago.
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morreu hai poucas horas.
00:27
Nelson Mandela has come to the end
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Nelson Mandela chegou á fin
00:30
of his long walk to freedom.
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do seu longo camiño cara á liberdade.
00:33
And so this talk is going to be for him.
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Polo tanto esta charla vai ser para el.
00:40
I grew up in wonder.
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Eu crecín no paraíso.
00:43
I grew up amongst those animals.
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Crecín entre aqueles animais.
00:47
I grew up in the wild eastern part of South Africa
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Crecín no salvaxe este de Sudáfrica
00:51
at a place called Londolozi Game Reserve.
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nun lugar chamado Reserva Londolozi Game.
00:54
It's a place where my family has been
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É un lugar onde a miña familia se dedicou
00:57
in the safari business for four generations.
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ó negocio dos safaris durante catro xeracións.
01:01
Now for as long as I can remember,
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Agora todo ata cando podo recordar,
01:03
my job has been to take people out into nature,
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o meu traballo foi levar á xente á natureza,
01:08
and so I think it's a lovely twist of fate today
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por iso penso que é unha maravilla este xiro do destino hoxe
01:11
to have the opportunity
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e ter a oportunidade
01:13
to bring some of my experiences out in nature
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de traer algunhas das miñas experiencias na natureza
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in to this gathering.
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a esta reunión.
01:18
Africa is a place
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África é un lugar
01:20
where people still sit under starlit skies
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onde a xente aínda se senta baixo ceos estrelados
01:23
and around campfires and tell stories,
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ó redor de fogueiras e contan historias.
01:27
and so what I have to share with you today
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Por iso, o que teño que compartir con vós hoxe
01:29
is the simple medicine of a few campfire stories,
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é a simple menciña dunhas cantas historias de fogueira,
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stories about heroes of heart.
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historias sobre heroes de corazón.
01:37
Now my stories are not the stories
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As miñas historias non son as historias
01:39
that you'll hear on the news,
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que ides oír nas noticias,
01:41
and while it's true that Africa is a harsh place,
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e aínda que é verdade que África é un lugar duro,
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I also know it to be a place
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tamén sei que é un lugar
01:46
where people, animals and ecosystems
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onde a xente, os animais e os ecosistemas
01:50
teach us about a more interconnected world.
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nos ensínan un mundo máis interconectado.
01:54
When I was nine years old,
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Cando tiña nove anos,
01:56
President Mandela came to stay with my family.
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o presindente Mandela veu a hospedarse coa miña familia.
01:59
He had just been released from his 27 years of incarceration,
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Acababa de ser liberado de 27 anos de encarceramento,
02:03
and was in a period of readjustment
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e estaba nun periodo de reaxuste
02:06
to his sudden global icon status.
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ó seu repentino estatus de icono global.
02:08
Members of the African National Congress
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Membros do Congreso Africano Nacional
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thought that in the bush
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pensaron que no monte
02:13
he would have time to rest and recuperate
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tería tempo de descansar e recuperarse
02:15
away from the public eye,
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lonxe do ollo público,
02:17
and it's true that lions tend to be
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e é verdade que os leóns soen ser
02:20
a very good deterrent to press and paparazzi.
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un moi bó disuasivo para a prensa e os paparazzis.
02:24
(Laughter)
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(Risas)
02:26
But it was a defining time for me as a young boy.
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Pero era para min un momento decisivo como mozo.
02:29
I would take him breakfast in bed,
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Eu levaríalle o almorzo á cama,
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and then, in an old track suit and slippers,
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e logo, cun vello chándal e en zapatillas,
02:33
he would go for a walk around the garden.
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el iría a dar un paseo polo xardín.
02:36
At night, I would sit with my family
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Pola noite, sentaríame coa miña familia
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around the snowy, bunny-eared TV,
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ó redor da tele branquexada con orellas de coello,
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and watch images of that same
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a ver imaxes daquel mesmo
02:43
quiet man from the garden
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home tranquilo do xardín
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surrounded by hundreds and thousands of people
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cercado por centos e miles de persoas
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as scenes from his release were broadcast nightly.
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cando puñan as esceas da súa liberación á noite.
02:51
He was bringing peace
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Estaba traendo paz
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to a divided and violent South Africa,
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a unha dividida e violenta Sudáfrica,
02:56
one man with an unbelievable sense of his humanity.
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un home cun sentido da humanidade incrible.
03:01
Mandela said often that the gift of prison
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Mandela acostumaba dicir que o regalo que lle deu a prisión
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was the ability to go within and to think,
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foi a habilidade de ir máis alá e pensar,
03:07
to create in himself
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crear en el mesmo
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the things he most wanted for South Africa:
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as cousas que máis quería para Sudáfrica:
03:11
peace, reconciliation, harmony.
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paz, reconciliación, harmonía.
03:15
Through this act of immense open-heartedness,
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A través deste acto de inmensa xenerosidade,
03:17
he was to become the embodiment
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estaba a piques de converterse na encarnación
03:20
of what in South Africa we call "ubuntu."
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do que en Sudáfrica chamamos "ubuntu".
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Ubuntu: I am because of you.
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Ubuntu: eu existo grazas a tí.
03:26
Or, people are not people
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Ou, as persoas non son persoas
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without other people.
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sen outras persoas.
03:31
It's not a new idea or value
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Non é unha nova idea ou valor
03:33
but it's one that I certainly think at these times
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pero é un valor no que nestes tempos creo firmemente que
03:35
is worth building on.
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paga a pena aproveitalo.
03:37
In fact, it is said that in the collective consciousness of Africa,
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De feito, dise que na conciencia colectiva de Sudáfrica,
03:40
we get to experience the deepest parts
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chegamos a experimentar o máis profundo
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of our own humanity
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da nosa humanidade
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through our interactions with others.
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a través das nosas interaccións cós outros.
03:46
Ubuntu is at play right now.
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Ubuntu está en xogo neste momento.
03:48
You are holding a space for me
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Vós estades sostindo un espazo para min
03:50
to express the deepest truth of who I am.
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para expresar a verdade máis profunda de quen son.
03:54
Without you, I'm just a guy talking to an empty room,
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Sen vós, só son un tipo falando a unha habitación baleira.
03:56
and I spent a lot of time last week doing that,
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Invertín moitísimo tempo a semana pasada facendo iso
03:59
and it's not the same as this.
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e non é o mesmo que isto.
04:02
(Laughter)
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(Risas)
04:05
If Mandela was the national and international embodiment,
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Se Mandela era a encarnación nacional e internacional,
04:08
then the man who taught me the most
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entón quen máis me ensinou a min
04:10
about this value personally was this man,
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sobre este valor personalmente foi este home,
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Solly Mhlongo.
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Solly Mhlongo.
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Solly was born under a tree
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Solly naceu baixo unha árbore
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60 kilometers from where I grew up in Mozambique.
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a 60 km de onde eu crecín en Mozambique.
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He would never have a lot of money,
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El nunca tería moito diñeiro,
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but he was to be
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pero ía ser
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one of the richest men I would ever meet.
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un dos homes máis ricos que coñecería xamáis.
04:24
Solly grew up tending to his father's cattle.
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Solly creceu coidando o gando do seu pai.
04:27
Now, I can tell you, I don't know what it is about people who grow up looking after cattle,
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Agora, podo decírvolo, non sei que pasa coa xente que medra coidando gando,
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but it makes for über-resourcefulness.
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pero fai algo có enxeño.
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The first job that he ever got in the safari business
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O primeiro emprego que tivo no negocio dos safaris
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was fixing the safari trucks.
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era reparar os camións.
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Where he had learned to do that out in the bush
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Onde aprendeu a facelo alá no monte
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I have no idea, but he could do it.
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non teño nin idea, pero puido facelo.
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He then moved across into what we called
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Despois se trasladou ó que el chamaba
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the habitat team.
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o equipo do hábitat.
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These were the people on the reserve
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Eses eran a xente da reserva
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who were responsible for its well-being.
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que eran responsables do benestar dos camiños.
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He fixed roads, he mended wetlands,
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Amañaba as estradas, remendaba os humidais,
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he did some anti-poaching.
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e fixo algúns traballos contra a caza furtiva.
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And then one day we were out together,
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Un día estabamos fóra xuntos,
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and he came across the tracks of where a female leopard had walked.
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e veu entre os camiños por onde pasara unha leoparda.
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And it was an old track,
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Era un camiño vello,
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but for fun he turned and he began to follow it,
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pero por diversión deu a volta e comezou a seguilo,
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and I tell you, I could tell by the speed
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e vos digo que pola velocidade
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at which he moved on those pad marks
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á que se movía seguindo as marcas das almofadiñas,
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that this man was a Ph.D.-level tracker.
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ese home tiña un máster en persecución.
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If you drove past Solly
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Se conducías por onde estaba Solly
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somewhere out on the reserve,
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nalgún lugar da reserva,
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you look up in your rearview mirror,
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mirabas polo espello retrovisor,
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you'd see he'd stopped the car
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e vías que parara o coche
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20, 50 meters down the road
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20, 50 metros máis abaixo
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just in case you need help with something.
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por se precisabas axuda con algo.
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The only accusation I ever heard leveled at him
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A única acusación que escoitei contra el
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was when one of our clients said,
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foi cando un dos nosos clientes dixo,
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"Solly, you are pathologically helpful."
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"Solly, ti es patoloxicamente útil".
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(Laughter)
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(Risas)
05:34
When I started professionally guiding people
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Cando comecei a guiar xente de forma profesional
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out into this environment,
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por este entorno,
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Solly was my tracker.
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Solly era quen me seguía.
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We worked together as a team.
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Traballabamos xuntos como un equipo.
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And the first guests we ever got
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E os primeiros clientes que tivemos
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were a philanthropy group from your East Coast,
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foron un grupo de filántropos da Costa Este,
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and they said to Solly, on the side, they said,
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e dixéronlle a Solly en privado, dixéronlle,
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"Before we even go out to see lions and leopards,
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"Antes incluso de ir a ver leóns e leopardos,
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we want to see where you live."
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queremos ver onde vives."
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So we took them up to his house,
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Así que os levou ata a súa casa,
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and this visit of the philanthropist to his house
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e esta visita do filántropo á súa casa
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coincided with a time when Solly's wife,
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coincidiu nun momento no que a muller de Solly,
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who was learning English,
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que estaba aprendendo inglés,
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was going through a phase where she would open the door
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estaba pasando por unha fase onde abriría a porta
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by saying, "Hello, I love you.
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dicindo, "Hola, quérote.
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Welcome, I love you." (Laughter)
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Benvido, quérote." (Risas)
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And there was something so beautifully African
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Para min había algo marabillosamente africano
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about it to me, this small house
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niso, esa pequena casa
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with a huge heart in it.
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cun gran corazón dentro.
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Now on the day that Solly saved my life,
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O dia que Solly me salvou a vida,
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he was already my hero.
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xa era o meu heroe.
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It was a hot day,
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Era un día caluroso,
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and we found ourselves down by the river.
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e nos atopabamos no río.
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Because of the heat, I took my shoes off,
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Debido á calor quiteime os zapatos,
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and I rolled up my pants,
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remangueime os pantalóns
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and I walked into the water.
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e entrei na auga.
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Solly remained on the bank.
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Solly quedou na ribeira.
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The water was clear running over sand,
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A auga corría clara sobre a area,
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and we turned and we began to make our way upstream.
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dimos a volta e comezamos o noso camiño río arriba.
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And a few meters ahead of us,
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A poucos metros diante de nós,
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there was a place where a tree had fallen out of the bank,
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había un lugar onde unha árbore caera da ribeira,
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and its branches were touching the water,
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as súas pólas estaban tocando a auga
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and it was shadowy.
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e era sombrío.
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And if had been a horror movie,
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E se fora unha película de terror,
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people in the audience would have started saying,
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a xente da sala comezaría a dicir
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"Don't go in there. Don't go in there." (Laughter)
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"Non entredes aí. Non entredes aí." (Risas)
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And of course, the crocodile was in the shadows.
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E por suposto, o crocodilo estaba nas sombras.
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Now the first thing that you notice when a crocodile hits you
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A primeira cousa da que te das de conta cando un crocodilo te golpea
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is the ferocity of the bite.
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é da ferocidade da dentada.
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Wham! It hits me by my right leg.
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Bam! Deume na perna dereita.
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It pulls me. It turns. I throw my hand up. I'm able to grab a branch.
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Empúxame. Xira. Lanzo a miña man. Son capaz de coller unha póla.
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It's shaking me violently.
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Estame a sacudir violentamente.
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It's a very strange sensation
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É unha sensación moi extraña
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having another creature try and eat you,
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a de que outra criatura o intente e che coma,
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and there are few things that promote vegetarianism like that.
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e hai certas cousas como esa que promoven o vexetarianismo.
07:23
(Laughter)
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(Risas)
07:24
Solly on the bank sees that I'm in trouble.
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Solly na ribeira ve que estou en perigo.
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He turns. He begins to make his way to me.
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Dáse a volta. Empeza a camiñar cara a min.
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The croc again continues to shake me.
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O crocodilo segue a sacudirme.
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It goes to bite me a second time.
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Vai trabarme unha segunda vez.
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I notice a slick of blood in the water around me
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Atopo un regueiro de sangue na auga ó meu redor
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that gets washed downstream.
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que se vai lavando río abaixo.
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As it bites the second time, I kick.
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Cando traba por segunda vez, dou unha patada.
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My foot goes down its throat. It spits me out.
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O meu pé baixa pola súa gorxa. Escúpeme.
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I pull myself up into the branches,
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Impúlsome cara as pólas,
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and as I come out of the water, I look over my shoulder.
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e mentres saio da auga, miro por enriba do meu ombro.
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My leg from the knee down
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A miña perna de xeonllo para abaixo
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is mangled beyond description.
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está destrozada máis alá da descrición.
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The bone is cracked.
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O óso está roto.
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The meat is torn up.
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A carne está desgarrada.
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I make an instant decision that I'll never look at that again.
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Tomo a decisión nese intre de non volver a mirala nunca máis.
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As I come out of the water,
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Mentres saio da auga,
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Solly arrives at a deep section,
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Solly chega a unha zona profunda,
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a channel between us.
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unha canle entre nós.
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He knows, he sees the state of my leg,
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Sabe, ve o estado da miña perna,
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he knows that between him and I
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sabe que entre el e máis eu
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there is a crocodile,
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hai un crocodilo,
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and I can tell you this man doesn't slow down for one second.
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e podo dicirvos que ese home non baixa o ritmo nin por un segundo.
08:13
He comes straight into the channel.
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Ven directo á canle.
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He wades in to above his waist.
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Métese ata a cintura.
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He gets to me. He grabs me.
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Chega ata min. Agárrame.
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I'm still in a vulnerable position.
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Eu sigo nunha posición vulnerable.
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He picks me and puts me on his shoulder.
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Cólleme e ponme sobre o seu ombro.
08:21
This is the other thing about Solly, he's freakishly strong.
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Esta é a outra característica de Solly, é monstruosamente forte.
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He turns. He walks me up the bank.
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Dá a volta. Lévame ó máis alto da ribeira.
08:26
He lays me down. He pulls his shirt off.
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Ponme no chan. Quítase a camiseta.
08:28
He wraps it around my leg,
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Envolve a miña perna con ela,
08:30
picks me up a second time,
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cólleme por segunda vez,
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walks me to a vehicle,
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lévame a un vehículo,
08:33
and he's able to get me to medical attention.
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e é capaz de conseguirme atención médica.
08:37
And I survive.
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E sobrevivín.
08:40
Now — (Applause)
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Agora - (Aplausos)
08:44
Now I don't know how many people you know
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Agora non sei a canta xente coñeceredes
08:47
that go into a deep channel of water
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que se meta nun profundo canal de auga
08:49
that they know has a crocodile in it
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no que saben que hai un crocodilo
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to come and help you,
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para ir a axudarte,
08:53
but for Solly, it was as natural as breathing.
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pero para Solly, iso era tan natural como respirar.
08:56
And he is one amazing example
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El é un exemplo incrible
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of what I have experienced all over Africa.
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do que eu experimentei por toda África.
09:02
In a more collective society,
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Nunha sociedade máis colectiva,
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we realize from the inside
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dámonos conta dende dentro
09:07
that our own well-being is deeply tied
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de que o noso propio benestar está profundamente unido
09:10
to the well-being of others.
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ó benestar dos outros.
09:13
Danger is shared. Pain is shared.
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Compartimos o perigo. Compartimos a dor.
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Joy is shared. Achievement is shared.
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Compartimos a alegría. Compartimos os logros.
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Houses are shared. Food is shared.
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Compartimos as casas. Compartimos a comida.
09:24
Ubuntu asks us to open our hearts
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Ubuntu pídenos que abramos os nosos corazóns
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and to share,
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e compartamos,
09:29
and what Solly taught me that day
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e o que Solly me ensinou aquel día
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is the essence of this value,
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é a esencia dese valor,
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his animated, empathetic action
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a súa vigorosa, empática acción
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in every moment.
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en todo momento.
09:38
Now although the root word is about people,
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Agora aínda que a raíz da palabra é sobre a xente,
09:41
I thought that maybe ubuntu was only about people.
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crin que quizáis ubuntu só se refería á xente.
09:44
And then I met this young lady.
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Entón coñecín a esta xoven rapaza.
09:48
Her name was Elvis.
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Chamábase Elvis.
09:49
In fact, Solly gave her the name Elvis
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De feito, Solly deulle o nome de Elvis
09:51
because he said she walked like she was doing
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porque dicía que camiñaba como se estivera facendo
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the Elvis the pelvis dance.
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o baile de pelve de Elvis.
09:57
She was born with very badly deformed back legs and pelvis.
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Naceu cunha grave deformación nas patas de atrás e na pelve.
10:01
She arrived at our reserve from a reserve
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Chegou á nosa reserva dende outra reserva
10:03
east of us on her migratory route.
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ó este da nosa, na súa ruta migratoria.
10:05
When I first saw her,
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A primeira vez que a vin
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I thought she would be dead in a matter of days.
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pensei que morrería en cuestión de días.
10:10
And yet, for the next five years
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Con todo, durante os seguintes cinco anos
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she returned in the winter months.
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volveu nos meses de inverno.
10:15
And we would be so excited to be out in the bush
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E nós estabamos emocionadísimos de estar fóra no campo
10:17
and to come across this unusual track.
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e atopar este inusual rastro
10:20
It looked like an inverted bracket,
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Parecía un garfo invertido.
10:21
and we would drop whatever we were doing and we would follow,
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Nós deixariamos o que estiveramos facendo,
10:24
and then we would come around the corner,
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dariamos a volta á esquina
10:26
and there she would be with her herd.
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e alí estaba ela coa súa manada.
10:28
And that outpouring of emotion
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E ese derrame de emoción
10:30
from people on our safari trucks
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da xente que estaba nos camiños do noso safari
10:32
as they saw her, it was this sense of kinship.
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ó vela, era un sentimento de parentesco.
10:35
And it reminded me
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Iso recordoume
10:37
that even people who grow up in cities
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que incluso a xente que medra nas cidades
10:39
feel a natural connection
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sente unha conexión natural
10:42
with the natural world and with animals.
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coa natureza e os animais.
10:45
And yet still I remained amazed that she was surviving.
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Eu seguía asombrado de que seguira viva.
10:48
And then one day we came across them at this small water hole.
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Un día achegámonos a eles nun pequeno burato con auga.
10:51
It was sort of a hollow in the ground.
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Era como un oco no chan.
10:53
And I watched as the matriarch drank,
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Vin como a matriarca bebía,
10:56
and then she turned in that beautiful slow motion of elephants,
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e logo deuse a volta cós movementos lentos e preciosos dos elefantes,
10:59
looks like the arm in motion,
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parece un brazo en movemento,
11:01
and she began to make her way up the steep bank.
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e comezou o seu camiño cara ó penedo.
11:04
The rest of the herd turned and began to follow.
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O resto da manada deu a volta e comezou a seguila.
11:08
And I watched young Elvis
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Eu miraba á xoven Elvis
11:10
begin to psych herself up for the hill.
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comezar a mentalizarse do camiño cara a colina.
11:13
She got visibly -- ears came forward,
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Volveuse visible -- as orellas foron cara atrás,
11:17
she had a full go of it and halfway up,
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intentouno con todas as súas forzas e, a medio camiño,
11:19
her legs gave way, and she fell backwards.
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as súas patas cederon, e caeu de costas.
11:21
She attempted it a second time,
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Intentouno unha segunda vez,
11:23
and again, halfway up, she fell backwards.
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e de novo, a medio camiño, caeu de costas.
11:26
And on the third attempt,
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No terceiro intento
11:28
an amazing thing happened.
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sucedeu unha cousa incrible.
11:30
Halfway up the bank,
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A medio camiño do penedo,
11:32
a young teenage elephant came in behind her,
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un xoven elefante adolescente púxose detrás de ela,
11:35
and he propped his trunk underneath her,
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apoiou o seu corpo debaixo de ela,
11:38
and he began to shovel her up the bank.
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e comezou a arrastrala cara ó alto do penedo.
11:41
And it occurred to me
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E dinme conta
11:42
that the rest of the herd
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de que o resto da manada
11:44
was in fact looking after this young elephant.
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estaba, de feito, coidando a este xoven elefante.
11:46
The next day I watched again
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Ó día seguinte observei outra vez
11:49
as the matriarch broke a branch
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como a matriarca rompía unha póla,
11:51
and she would put it in her mouth,
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poñíaa na súa boca,
11:53
and then she would break a second one
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logo rompería unha segunda
11:55
and drop it on the ground.
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e a tiraría ó chan.
11:58
And a consensus developed between all of us
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Creceu un consenso entre todos
12:00
who were guiding people in that area
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os que guiábamos á xente por esa zona,
12:02
that that herd was in fact moving slower
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sobre o feito de que a manada estaba movéndose máis despacio
12:05
to accommodate that elephant.
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para adaptar a ese elefante.
12:09
What Elvis and the herd taught me
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O que Elvis e a manada me ensinaron
12:11
caused me to expand my definition of ubuntu,
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fixo que ampliara a miña definición de ubuntu,
12:14
and I believe that in the cathedral of the wild,
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e creo que na catedral da natureza,
12:17
we get to see the most beautiful parts of ourselves
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conseguimos ver as partes máis bonitas de nós mesmos
12:19
reflected back at us.
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reflexadas nela.
12:21
And it is not only through other people
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E non é só a través de outra xente
12:25
that we get to experience our humanity
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como chegamos a experimentar a nosa humanidade
12:28
but through all the creatures that live on this planet.
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senón a través de todas as criaturas que viven neste planeta.
12:32
If Africa has a gift to share,
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Se África ten un regalo que compartir,
12:34
it's a gift of a more collective society.
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é un regalo dunha sociedade máis colectiva.
12:38
And while it's true that ubuntu is an African idea,
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E aínda que é certo que ubuntu é unha idea africana,
12:42
what I see is the essence of that value
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o que eu vexo é a esencia dese valor
12:47
being invented here.
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inventádose aquí.
12:49
Thank you.
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Grazas.
12:51
(Applause)
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(Aplausos)
13:16
Pat Mitchell: So Boyd,
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Pat Mitchell: Entón Boyd,
13:17
we know that you knew President Mandela
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sabemos que coñecías ó Presidente Mandela
13:22
from early childhood
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dende moi pequeno
13:24
and that you heard the news as we all did today,
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e que oíches as noticias hoxe como todos nós,
13:27
and deeply distraught
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profundamente angustiados,
13:30
and know the tragic loss that it is to the world.
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sabendo a tráxica perda que isto supón para o mundo.
13:34
But I just wondered if you wanted
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Pero eu preguntábame se ti quererías
13:36
to share any additional thoughts,
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compartir algún pensamento máis,
13:38
because we know that you heard that news
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porque sabemos que oíches esa noticia
13:40
just before coming in to do this session.
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xusto antes de vir a facer esta sesión.
13:44
Boyd Varty: Well thanks, Pat.
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Boyd Varty: Ben, grazas Pat.
13:45
I'm so happy because it was time for him to pass on.
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Estou moi contento porque era o seu momento de irse.
13:48
He was suffering.
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Estaba sufrindo.
13:50
And so of course there's the mixed emotions.
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E por suposto hai sentimentos enfrontados.
13:53
But I just think of so many occurrences
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Só penso nas tantas aparicións
13:55
like the time he went on the Oprah show
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como a vez que foi ó show de Oprah
13:57
and asked her what the show would be about.
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e lle preguntou de que ía a ir o programa.
14:00
(Laughter)
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(Risas)
14:01
And she was like, "Well, it'll be about you."
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E ela estaba como, "Ben, vai ir sobre ti".
14:05
I mean, that's just incredible humility.
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Quero dicir, isto é dunha humildade incrible.
14:07
(Laughter)
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(Risas)
14:11
He was the father of our nation
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Foi o pai da nosa nación
14:14
and we've got a road to walk in South Africa.
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e temos unha estrada por onde andar en Sudáfrica.
14:21
And everything, they used to call it Madiba magic.
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E de todo. Adoitaban chamalo maxia Madiba.
14:24
You know, he used to go to a rugby match and we would win.
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Xa sabedes, se ía a un partido de rugby gañaríamos nós.
14:27
Anywhere he went, things went well.
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Alá onde ía, as cousas ían ben.
14:30
But I think that magic will be with us,
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Pero creo que esa maxia estará con nós,
14:33
and the important thing is that we carry
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e o importante é que nós sigamos
14:36
what he stood for.
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o que el defendía.
14:38
And so that's what I'm going to try and do,
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Iso é o que vou a intentar e vou facer,
14:41
and that's what people all over South Africa are trying to do.
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e isto é o que a xente de toda Sudáfrica está intentando facer.
14:44
PM: And that's what you've done today. BV: Oh, thank you.
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PM: E iso é o que fixeches hoxe. BV: Oh, grazas.
14:46
PM: Thank you. BV: Thank you. Thanks very much.
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PM: Grazas BV: Grazas. Moitas grazas
14:50
(Applause)
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(Aplauso)
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