Janine di Giovanni: What I saw in the war

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This is how war starts.
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Keshtu fillon lufta.
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One day you're living your ordinary life,
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Nje dite je duke jetuar jeten tende te zakonshme,
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you're planning to go to a party,
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je duke planifikuar te shkosh ne nje feste,
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you're taking your children to school,
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je duke shpene femijet ne shkolle,
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you're making a dentist appointment.
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je duke caktuar nje takim tek dentisti.
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The next thing, the telephones go out,
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Dhe papritur, telefoni nderpritet,
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the TVs go out, there's armed men on the street,
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Televizoret po ashtu, ka burra te armatosur neper rruge,
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there's roadblocks.
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ka postoblloqe.
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Your life as you know it goes into suspended animation.
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Jeta jote papritur kthehet ne nje levizje te pezulluar.
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It stops.
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Ajo ndalon.
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I'm going to steal a story from a friend of mine,
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Une do vjedh nje histori te nje mikesheje,
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a Bosnian friend, about what happened to her,
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nje mikeshe nga Bosnia, per ate cka i ndodhi asaj,
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because I think it will illustrate for you exactly what it feels like.
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sepse mendoj se do sjelle tek you ndjenjen e vertete.
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She was walking to work one day in April, 1992,
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Ajo ishte duke vajtur ne pune nje dite ne Prill te 1992,
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in a miniskirt and high heels. She worked in a bank.
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e veshur me minifund dhe me taka te larta. Ajo punonte ne nje banke.
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She was a young mother. She was someone who liked to party.
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Ishte nje nene e re. Asaj i pelqenin festat.
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Great person.
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Njeri shume i mire.
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And suddenly she sees a tank
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Dhe papritur shikon nje tank
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ambling down the main road of Sarajevo
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duke ecur ne rrugen kryesore te Sarajevos
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knocking everything out of its path.
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duke goditur gjithcka rruge.
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She thinks she's dreaming, but she's not.
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Ajo mendon se eshte duke enderruar, por nuk ishte.
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And she runs as any of us would have done
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Dhe vrapon ashtu sikurse do bente cdokush nga ne
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and takes cover, and she hides behind a trash bin,
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duke u mbrojtur pas nje koshi plehrash,
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in her high heels and her miniskirt.
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ne takat e saja te larta dhe me minifund.
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And as she's hiding there, she's feeling ridiculous,
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Dhe ndersa fshihej aty, po ndjehesh qesharake,
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but she's seeing this tank go by with soldiers
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por po shikonte tankun duke kaluar me ushtaret
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and people all over the place and chaos
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dhe njerez gjithandej ne nje kaos
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and she thinks, "I feel like Alice in Wonderland
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dhe ajo mendon, "Me duket vetja si Liza ne Boten e Cudirave
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going down the rabbit hole,
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duke hyre ne gropen e lepurit,
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down, down, down into chaos,
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thelle, thelle, thelle ne kaos,
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and my life will never be the same again."
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dhe jeta ime nuk do jete kurre e njejta."
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A few weeks later, my friend was in a crowd of people
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Pas disa javesh, mikesha ime ishte ne nje grumbull njerezish
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pushing with her infant son in her arms
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duke shtyre me djalin e saj foshnje ne krahe
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to give him to a stranger on a bus,
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per ta dhene ate ne nje te huaj ne autobuz,
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which was one of the last buses leaving Sarajevo
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i cili ishte nje nga te fundit qe po largohej nga Sarajevo
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to take children out so they could be safe.
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i cili nxirrte femijet jashte per te qene te sigurte.
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And she remembers struggling with her mother to the front,
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Dhe ajo kujton luften me te emen ne rrjeshtin e pare,
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crowds and crowds of people, "Take my child! Take my child!"
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turma e turma njerezish, "Merr femijen tim! Merr femijen tim!"
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and passing her son to someone through a window.
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dhe pasimin e djalit te saj tek dikush nga dritarja.
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And she didn't see him for years.
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Dhe ajo nuk e pa ate per shume vite.
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The siege went on for three and a half years,
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Rrethimi vazhdoi per tre vite e gjysem,
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and it was a siege without water,
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nje rrethim pa uje,
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without power, without electricity, without heat, without food,
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pa energji, pa elektricitet, pa ngrohtesi, pa ushqim,
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in the middle of Europe, in the middle of the 20th century.
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ne mes te Europes, ne mes te shekullit te 20-te.
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I had the honor of being one of those reporters
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Kisha nderin te isha nje ata reportere
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that lived through that siege,
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qe jetonin ndermjet atij rrethimi,
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and I say I have the honor and the privilege of being there
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dhe them qe kam nderin dhe privilegjin qe ndodhesha aty
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because it's taught me everything,
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sepse ajo me mesoi gjithcka,
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not just about being a reporter, but about being a human being.
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jo vetem si nje reportere, por si nje qenie njerezore.
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I learned about compassion.
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Mesova per dhembshurine.
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I learned about ordinary people who could be heroes.
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Mesova per njerezit e zakonshem, heronjte e mundshem.
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I learned about sharing. I learned about camaraderie.
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Mesova per ndarjen. Mesova per bashkejetesen.
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Most of all, I learned about love.
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Por mbi te gjitha mesova per dashurine.
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Even in the midst of terrible destruction and death and chaos,
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Edhe ne mes te shkaterrimit te tmerrshem, vdekjes dhe kaosit,
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I learned how ordinary people could help their neighbors,
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mesova se si njerez te zakonshem mund te ndihmonin miqte e tyre,
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share food, raise their children,
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te ndanin ushqim, te rrisnin femijet e tyre,
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drag someone who's being sniped at from the middle of the road
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te terhiqnin dike i cili ishte i qelluar nga mesi i rruges
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even though you yourself were endangering your life,
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edhe pse ti vete ishte duke rrezikur jeten tende,
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helping people get into taxis who were injured
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te ndihmonin njerez te plagosur per ti futur ne nje taxi
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to try to take them to hospitals.
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dhe ti dergonin neper spitale.
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I learned so much about myself.
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Mesova shume per veten time.
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Martha Gellhorn, who's one of my heroes, once said,
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Martha Gellhorn, e cila eshte nje nga heroinat e mia, dikur ka thene,
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"You can only love one war. The rest is responsibility."
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"Ti mund te duash vetem nje lufte. Te tjerat jane pergjegjesi."
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I went on to cover many, many, many wars after that,
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Kam vajtur te mbuloj shume e shume lufte pas kesaj,
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so many that I lost count,
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kaq shume sa e kam humbur numerimin,
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but there was nothing like Sarajevo.
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por asnjera nuk krahasohej me Sarajevon.
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Last April, I went back to a very strange --
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Prillin e kaluar, u ktheva atje ne nje --sic e quajta une
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what I called a deranged high school reunion.
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takim trondites gjimnazi.
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What it was, was the 20th anniversary of the siege,
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Ishte pervjetori i 20te i rrethimit,
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the beginning of the siege of Sarajevo,
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te fillim rrethimit te Sarajevos,
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and I don't like the word "anniversary," because it sounds like a party,
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dhe nuk me pelqen fjala "pervjetor", sepse duket si nje feste,
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and this was not a party.
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dhe kjo nuk ishte nje feste.
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It was a very somber gathering of the reporters
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Ishte nje mbledhje e zymte e reportereve
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that worked there during the war, humanitarian aid workers,
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qe punonin atje gjate luftes, punonjes te ndihmave humanitare,
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and of course the brave and courageous people of Sarajevo themselves.
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dhe sigurisht njerezit e guximshem dhe kurajoze te Sarajevos.
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And the thing that struck me the most,
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Dhe ajo cka me goditi me shume,
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that broke my heart,
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dhe me theu zemren,
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was walking down the main street of Sarajevo,
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ishte ecja ne rrugen kryesore te Sarajevos,
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where my friend Aida saw the tank coming 20 years ago,
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aty ku mikesha ime Aida pa tankun para 20 viteve,
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and in that road were more than 12,000 red chairs,
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dhe ne ate rruge kishte me shume se 12.000 karrige te kuqe,
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empty,
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bosh,
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and every single one of them symbolized
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dhe secila nga ato simbolizonte
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a person who had died during the siege,
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nje person qe kishte vdekur gjate rrethimit,
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just in Sarajevo, not in all of Bosnia,
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vetem ne Sarajevo, jo ne gjithe Bosnjen,
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and it stretched from one end of the city
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ajo shtrihej nga njeri fund i qytetit
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to a large part of it,
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ne nje pjese te madhe te saj,
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and the saddest for me were the tiny little chairs
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me e trishtueshme per mua ishin kariget e vogla
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for the children.
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per femijet.
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I now cover Syria,
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Une tani mbuloj Sirine,
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and I started reporting it because I believed that
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dhe nisa ta raportoj ate sepse ndjeva qe
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it needs to be done.
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duhej bere.
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I believe a story there has to be told.
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Besoj se duhet thene nje histori.
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I see, again, a template of the war in Bosnia.
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Po shoh, perseri nje shabllon te luftes ne Bosnje.
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And when I first arrived in Damascus,
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Kur arrita fillimisht ne Damascus,
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I saw this strange moment where people
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Pash kete momentin e cuditshem ku njerezit
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didn't seem to believe that war was going to descend,
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nuk donin te besonin se lufta do filloje,
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and it was exactly the same in Bosnia
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dhe ishte pikerisht e njejta situate ne Bosnje
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and nearly every other country I've seen where war comes.
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dhe pak a shume ne cdo shtet qe kam pare duke i ardhur lufta.
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People don't want to believe it's coming,
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Njerezit nuk duan te besojne se ajo po vjen,
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so they don't leave, they don't leave before they can.
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dhe per kete arsye ata nuk largohen, nuk ikin para se te munden.
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They don't get their money out.
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Nuk i nxjerrin parate jashte.
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They stay because you want to stay in your home.
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Ata qendrojne sepse ti do te qendrosh ne shtepi.
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And then war and chaos descend.
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Dhe pastaj lufta dhe kaosi zbresin.
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Rwanda is a place that haunts me a lot.
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Rwanda eshte nje vend i cili me ka lene shume gjurme.
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In 1994, I briefly left Sarajevo to go report the genocide in Rwanda.
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Ne 1994, per nje kohe te shkurter u largova nga Sarajevo per te vajtur dhe raportuar mbi genocidin te Rwanda.
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Between April and August, 1994,
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Ndermjet Prillit dhe Gushtit, 1994,
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one million people were slaughtered.
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nje milion njerez u theren.
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Now if those 12,000 chairs freaked me out
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Nese ato 12.000 karrige me frikesonin
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with the sheer number,
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me numer absolut,
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I want you just for a second to think of a million people.
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Dua thjesht per nje sekond te imagjinoni per nje milion njerez.
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And to give you some example, I remember
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Dhe per t'ju dhene nje shembull, me kujtohet
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standing and looking down a road as far as I could see,
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qe qendroja ne nje rruge dhe shikoja sa me larg te mundesha
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at least a mile, and there were bodies piled twice my height
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te pakten nje milje, ku aty kishte trupa te stivosur dy here mbi gjatesine time
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of the dead.
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te pajeteve.
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And that was just a small percentage of the dead.
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Dhe ajo ishte vetem nje perqindje e vogel te pajeteve.
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And there were mothers holding their children
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Aty kishte nena qe mbanin femijet e tyre
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who had been caught in their last death throes.
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te cilat ishin kapur ne grahmen e fundit te vdekjes.
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So we learn a lot from war,
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Pra mesuam shume nga lufta,
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and I mention Rwanda
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dhe une permenda Rwanden
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because it is one place, like South Africa,
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sepse eshte nje vend, si Afrika e Jugut,
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where nearly 20 years on, there is healing.
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kur per gati 20 vite e ne vazhdim, ka sherim.
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Fifty-six percent of the parliamentarians are women,
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Pesedhjete e gjashte perqind e parlamentareve jane gra,
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which is fantastic,
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e cila eshte fantastike,
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and there's also within the national constitution now,
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gjithashtu ne kushtetutun nacionale sot,
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you're actually not allowed to say Hutu or Tutsi.
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nuk te lejohet te thuash Hutu apo Tutsi.
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You're not allowed to identify anyone by ethnicity,
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Nuk te lejohet te identifikosh dike nga kombesia,
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which is, of course, what started the slaughter in the first place.
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e cila eshte, sigurisht, ajo cka e filloi masakren.
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And an aid worker friend of mine told me the most beautiful story,
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Nje punonjes i ndihmes, mik i imi, me tregoi historine me te bukur,
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or I find it beautiful.
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ose mua me duket e bukur.
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There was a group of children, mixed Hutus and Tutsis,
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Ishte nje grup femijesh, te perzier Hutus dhe Tutsis,
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and a group of women who were adopting them,
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dhe nje grup grash te cilat po i adoptonin ata.
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and they lined up and one was just given to the next.
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te rrjeshtuar jepeshin njeri pas tjetrit.
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There was no kind of compensation for, you're a Tutsi,
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Nuk kishte asnje lloj kompesimi se ishe nje Tutsi
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you're a Hutu, you might have killed my mother,
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apo nje Hutu, mund te kesh vrare mamane time,
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you might have killed my father.
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mund te kesh vrare vellane tim.
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They were just brought together in this kind of reconciliation,
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Ata ishin afruar ne kete lloj pajtimi,
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and I find this remarkable.
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dhe mua me duket e mrekullueshme.
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So when people ask me how I continue to cover war,
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Pra kur njerezit me pyesin se si vazhdoj te mbuloj luften,
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and why I continue to do it,
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dhe pse vazhdoj ta bej,
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this is why.
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kjo eshte arsyeja.
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When I go back to Syria, next week in fact,
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Kur kthehem ne Siri, javen tjeter ne fakt,
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what I see is incredibly heroic people,
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ajo cka shoh, eshte njerez jashtezakonisht te guximshem,
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some of them fighting for democracy,
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disa nga ata luftojne per demokraci,
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for things we take for granted every single day.
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per gjera qe ne i marrim te sigurta cdo dite.
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And that's pretty much why I do it.
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Dhe kjo eshte pak a shume arsyeja pse e bej.
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In 2004, I had a little baby boy,
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Ne 2004, kisha nje djale te vogel,
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and I call him my miracle child,
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dhe une e quaj ate femija mrekulli,
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because after seeing so much death
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sepse pasi kam pare kaq shume vdekje
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and destruction and chaos and darkness in my life,
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shkaterrime, kaos dhe erresire ne jeten time,
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this ray of hope was born.
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lindi kjo rreze shprese.
08:41
And I called him Luca, which means "The bringer of light,"
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Dhe une e quajta ate Luca qe do te thote "Derguesi i drites"
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because he does bring light to my life.
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sepse ai sjell drite ne jeten time.
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But I'm talking about him because when he was four months old,
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Por po flas per ate sepse kur ai ishte kater muajsh,
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my foreign editor forced me to go back to Baghdad
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redaktori im i huaj me detyroi te kthehesha ne Baghdad
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where I had been reporting all throughout the Saddam regime
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aty ku kisha raportuar gjate gjithe regimit te Saddamit
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and during the fall of Baghdad and afterwards,
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dhe gjate renies se Baghdadit dhe me pas,
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and I remember getting on the plane in tears,
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me kujtohet qe hyra ne avion duke qare,
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crying to be separated from my son,
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qaja sepse po ndahesha nga im bir,
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and while I was there,
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dhe ndersa isha aty,
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a quite famous Iraqi politician who was a friend of mine
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nje politikan i famshem Irakian i cili ishte mik i imi
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said to me, "What are you doing here?
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me tha, "Cfare po ben ketu?
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Why aren't you home with Luca?"
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Pse nuk je ne shtepi me Luca?"
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And I said, "Well, I have to see." It was 2004
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Dhe une i thash, "E pra, mua me duhet ta shoh." Ishte 2004
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which was the beginning of the incredibly bloody time in Iraq,
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qe do te thote ishte fillimi i nje kohe teper te pergjakshme ne Irak,
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"I have to see, I have to see what is happening here.
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"Me duhet te shoh, me duhet te shoh cfare po ndodh ketu.
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I have to report it."
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me duhet te raportoj."
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And he said, "Go home,
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Dhe ai me tha. "Kthehu ne shtepi,
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because if you miss his first tooth,
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sepse po e humbe dhembin e tij te pare,
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if you miss his first step, you'll never forgive yourself.
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po i humbe hapat e tij te para, nuk do e falesh kurre veten.
09:42
But there will always be another war."
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Por do kete perhere nje lufte tjeter."
09:46
And there, sadly, will always be wars.
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Dhe atje, fatkeqeshisht, do kete perhere lufte.
09:50
And I am deluding myself if I think, as a journalist,
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Dhe do mashtroja veten nese mendoja, si nje gazetare,
09:54
as a reporter, as a writer,
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si nje reportere, si nje shkrimtare,
09:55
what I do can stop them. I can't.
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qe ajo cka po bej mund ta ndaloje. Nuk mundem.
10:00
I'm not Kofi Annan. He can't stop a war.
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Une nuk jam Kofi Annan. Ai nuk mund te ndaloje nje lufte.
10:03
He tried to negotiate Syria and couldn't do it.
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Ai u perpoq te negocioje Sirine por nuk e arriti.
10:06
I'm not a U.N. conflict resolution person.
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Une nuk jam nje person i K.B te zgjidhjen e konflikteve.
10:10
I'm not even a humanitarian aid doctor,
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Une nuk jam as doktoreshe e ndihmes humanitare,
10:12
and I can't tell you the times of how helpless I've felt
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dhe nuk mund ti pershkruaj se sa here jam ndjere e paafte
10:15
to have people dying in front of me, and I couldn't save them.
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te shpetoj njerez qe kane qene duke vdekur para meje.
10:18
All I am is a witness.
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Gjithcka jam, eshte nje deshmitare.
10:22
My role is to bring a voice to people who are voiceless.
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Roli im eshte te sjell nje ze tek njerezit qe jane te pa ze.
10:27
A colleague of mine described it as to shine a light
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Nje kolegu im e pershkroi ate si te ndezesh nje drite
10:30
in the darkest corners of the world.
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ne cepat me te erret te botes.
10:33
And that's what I try to do.
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Dhe kete perpiqem te bej.
10:36
I'm not always successful,
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Nuk jam gjithmone e suksesshme,
10:39
and sometimes it's incredibly frustrating,
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dhe shpesh here eshte shume frustruese,
10:41
because you feel like you're writing into a void,
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sepse ndihesh sikur po shkruan ne nje boshllek,
10:44
or you feel like no one cares.
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ose ndihesh sikur asnjerit nuk i intereson.
10:46
Who cares about Syria? Who cares about Bosnia?
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Kujt i intereson per Sirine? Kujt i intereson per Bosnjen?
10:48
Who cares about the Congo,
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Kush interesohet per Kongon,
10:50
the Ivory Coast, Liberia, Sierra Leone,
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per Bregun e Fildishte, Liberine, Sierra Leonen,
10:52
all of these strings of places that
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te gjithe keto vargje vendesh qe
10:55
I will remember for the rest of my life?
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une do kujtoj per pjesen tjeter te jetes time?
10:58
But my métier is to bear witness
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Por profesioni im eshte te mbart deshmite
11:02
and that is the crux, the heart of the matter,
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dhe ky eshte thelbi, zemra e ceshtjes,
11:05
for us reporters who do this.
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per ne reporteret qe bejme kete.
11:07
And all I can really do is hope,
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Dhe ajo cka mund te bej eshte te shpresoj,
11:11
not to policymakers or politicians,
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jo te politike beresit ose politikanet,
11:14
because as much as I'd like to have faith
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sepse sado te dua te kem besim
11:16
that they read my words and do something,
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qe ata te lexojne fjalet e mia dhe bejne dicka,
11:19
I don't delude myself.
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une nuk e mashtroj veten.
11:22
But what I do hope is that if you remember anything I said
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Por shpresa ime eshte se nese do mbani mend dicka nga ato qe thashe
11:26
or any of my stories tomorrow morning over breakfast,
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ose kedo nga historite e mia neser gjate mengjesit,
11:29
if you can remember the story of Sarajevo,
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nese do kujtoni historine e Sarajevos,
11:32
or the story of Rwanda,
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ose historine e Ruandes,
11:36
then I've done my job.
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atehere une e kam kryer punen time.
11:38
Thank you very much.
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Faleminderit shume.
11:40
(Applause)
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