The walk from "no" to "yes" | William Ury

Prevoditelj: Martina Mijuskovic Recezent: Tilen Pigac - EFZG

Tema kompliciranih pregovora

Well, the subject of difficult negotiation

reminds me of one of my favorite stories from the Middle East,

podsjeća me na jednu od meni najdražih priča

s Bliskog Istoka,

of a man who left to his three sons, 17 camels.

o čovjeku koji je trojici svojih sinova ostavio 17 deva.

Prvom sinu ostavio je polovicu deva;

To the first son, he left half the camels;

to the second son, he left a third of the camels;

drugom sinu trećinu;

and to the youngest son, he left a ninth of the camels.

a najmlađem sinu devetinu deva.

Trojca sinova počeli su pregovore.

The three sons got into a negotiation -- 17 doesn't divide by two.

17 nije djeljivo s dva.

Nije djeljivo niti s tri.

It doesn't divide by three.

It doesn't divide by nine.

Niti s devet.

Brotherly tempers started to get strained.

Raspoloženje braće postalo je napeto.

Finally, in desperation,

Napokon, u očaju,

they went and they consulted a wise old woman.

odlučili su potražiti savjet mudre stare žene.

The wise old woman thought about their problem for a long time,

Mudra stara žena razmišljala je dugo o njihovom problemu,

a kad se vratila, rekla je:

and finally she came back and said, "Well, I don't know if I can help you,

"Ne znam mogu li vam pomoći,

ali barem, ako želite, možete uzeti moju devu."

but at least, if you want, you can have my camel."

Tako su dobili ukupno 18 deva.

So then, they had 18 camels.

Prvi sin uzeo je svoju polovicu -- pola od 18 je devet.

The first son took his half -- half of 18 is nine.

Drugi sin uzeo je svoju trećinu -- trećina od 18 je šest.

The second son took his third -- a third of 18 is six.

The youngest son took his ninth -- a ninth of 18 is two.

Najmlađi sin uzeo je svoju devetinu --

Devetina od 18 je dva.

You get 17.

Ukupno, to je 17.

They had one camel left over.

Jedna deva im je ostala.

They gave it back to the wise old woman.

Nju su vratili mudroj staroj ženi.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

Now, if you think about that story for a moment,

Ako na trenutak razmislite o ovoj priči,

I think it resembles a lot of the difficult negotiations

čini se da sliči

mnogim teškim pregovorima u koje smo upleteni.

we get involved in.

They start off like 17 camels, no way to resolve it.

Ti pregovori počinju poput 17 deva -- nema načina da se riješe.

Somehow, what we need to do

Ono što moramo učiniti

is step back from those situations, like that wise old woman,

je zakoračiti izvan tih situacija, poput te stare mudre žene,

promotriti situaciju novim očima

look at the situation through fresh eyes

i pronaći 18.-tu devu.

and come up with an 18th camel.

Finding that 18th camel in the world's conflicts

Pronalaženje 18.-te deve u svjetskim sukobima

has been my life passion.

moja je životna strast.

I basically see humanity a bit like those three brothers.

Ja vidim čovječanstvo poput ta tri brata;

We're all one family.

svi smo mi jedna obitelj.

We know that scientifically,

Znanost je pokazala,

thanks to the communications revolution,

to znamo zahvaljujući revoluciji u komunikacijama,

all the tribes on the planet -- all 15,000 tribes --

da su sva plemena na svijetu, svih 15 000,

are in touch with each other.

međusobno povezana.

And it's a big family reunion.

To je veliko obiteljsko okupljanje.

And yet, like many family reunions,

A opet, poput mnogih obiteljskih okupljanja,

it's not all peace and light.

nije uvijek mirno i lagano.

There's a lot of conflict,

Ima puno sukoba.

and the question is: How do we deal with our differences?

Pitanje je,

kako se nositi s našim razlikama?

How do we deal with our deepest differences,

Kako se nositi s našim najdubljim razlikama,

given the human propensity for conflict

uzevši u obzir ljudsku sklonost sukobu

i ljudskom geniju

and the human genius at devising weapons of enormous destruction?

koji je razvio oružja ogromne moći uništavanja?

That's the question.

To je veliko pitanje.

As I've spent the last better part of three decades, almost four,

Kako sam proveo veći dio posljednja tri desetljeća --

skoro četiri --

traveling the world,

putujući po svijetu,

trying to work, getting involved in conflicts

pokušavajući raditi na sukobima

ranging from Yugoslavia to the Middle East

od Jugoslavije do Bliskog Istoka

od Čečenije do Venezuele,

to Chechnya to Venezuela --

some of the most difficult conflicts on the face of the planet --

nekih od najtežih sukoba na planetu,

I've been asking myself that question.

postavljao sam si to pitanje.

I mislim da sam pronašao, na neki način,

And I think I've found, in some ways, what is the secret to peace.

što je tajna mira.

It's actually surprisingly simple.

To je zapravo iznenađujuće jednostavno.

It's not easy, but it's simple.

Nije lako, ali je jednostavno.

It's not even new.

Ta ideja čak nije ni nova.

It may be one of our most ancient human heritages.

Možda je jedna od najstarijih ljudskih naslijeđa.

Tajna mira smo mi.

The secret to peace is us.

It's us who act as a surrounding community around any conflict,

Mi koji djelujemo

kao zajednica koja okružuje

svaki sukob,

who can play a constructive role.

koja može igrati konstruktivnu ulogu.

Let me give you just a story, an example.

Dat ću vam jednu priču kao primjer.

About 20 years ago,

Prije 20 godina bio sam u Južnoj Africi

I was in South Africa, working with the parties in that conflict,

radeći sa stranama uključenima u taj sukob,

and I had an extra month,

i imao sam mjesec dana viška,

so I spent some time living with several groups of San Bushmen.

kojeg sam proveo živeći

s nekoliko grupa San Bushmana.

I was curious about them, about the way in which they resolve conflict.

Bio sam znatiželjan i želio sam znati više o njima i načinu na koji rješavaju sukobe.

Because, after all, within living memory, they were hunters and gatherers,

Jer, naposlijetku, unutar cijele povijesti,

oni su bili lovci i sakupljači,

living pretty much like our ancestors lived

i živjeli su jednako kao naši preci

for maybe 99 percent of the human story.

kroz možda 99% ljudske prošlosti.

And all the men have these poison arrows that they use for hunting --

Svi muškarci imaju otrovne strelice koje koriste za lov --

absolutely fatal.

apsolutno su smrtonosne.

So how do they deal with their differences?

Kako su se oni nosili sa svojim razlikama?

Well, what I learned is, whenever tempers rise in those communities,

Naučio sam da

kad god dođe do svađe u tim zajednicama,

someone goes and hides the poison arrows out in the bush,

netko ode sakriti otrovne strelice u grmlje,

and then everyone sits around in a circle like this,

i svi sjednu u krug ovako,

and they sit and they talk and they talk.

i sjede, i razgovaraju, i razgovaraju.

It may take two days, three days, four days,

Može trajati dva dana, tri dana, četiri dana,

but they don't rest until they find a resolution

ali oni ne miruju

dok ne nađu rješenje,

or better yet -- a reconciliation.

ili još bolje, pomirenje.

And if tempers are still too high,

Ako je raspoloženje još uvijek napeto,

then they send someone off to visit some relatives,

onda nekoga pošalju van da posjeti rođake

as a cooling-off period.

ne bi li se smirio.

Well, that system is, I think, probably the system

Taj sustav nas je,

ja mislim, vjerojatno održao na životu do ovog trenutka,

that kept us alive to this point,

given our human tendencies.

uzevši u obzir naše ljudske sklonosti.

Taj sustav ja zovem treća strana.

That system, I call "the third side."

Ako razmislite o tome,

Because if you think about it, normally when we think of conflict,

kad opisujemo sukob,

when we describe it,

there's always two sides --

uvijek su tu dvije strane.

it's Arabs versus Israelis, labor versus management,

Arapi protiv Izraelaca, radnici protiv menadžmenta,

husband versus wife, Republicans versus Democrats.

muž protiv žene, republikanci protiv demokrata,

But what we don't often see

ali ono što često ne vidimo

is that there's always a third side,

je da je tu uvijek treća strana.

Ta treća strana sukoba smo mi,

and the third side of the conflict is us, it's the surrounding community,

okolna zajednica,

it's the friends, the allies,

prijatelji, saveznici,

the family members, the neighbors.

članovi obitelji, susjedi.

And we can play an incredibly constructive role.

I mi možemo igrati vrlo konstruktivnu ulogu.

Perhaps the most fundamental way in which the third side can help

Najosnovniji način

na koji treća strana može pomoći

is to remind the parties of what's really at stake.

je podsjetiti strane što mogu izgubiti.

For the sake of the kids, for the sake of the family,

Zbog djece, zbog obitelji,

zbog zajednice, zbog budućnosti,

for the sake of the community, for the sake of the future,

let's stop fighting for a moment and start talking.

prekinimo borbu na trenutak i započnimo razgovor.

Jer, naime,

Because, the thing is,

when we're involved in conflict,

kad smo upleteni u sukob,

it's very easy to lose perspective.

vrlo lako zaboravimo što je važno.

It's very easy to react.

Vrlo lako reagiramo.

Human beings -- we're reaction machines.

Ljudska bića: mi smo strojevi za reakciju.

And as the saying goes,

I kako kaže izreka,

when angry, you will make the best speech

kad si ljut, održat ćeš najbolji govor

you will ever regret.

koji ćeš ikada požaliti.

(Laughter)

And so the third side reminds us of that.

I tako nas treća strana podsjeća na to.

The third side helps us go to the balcony,

Treća strana pomaže nam da "odemo na balkon",

which is a metaphor for a place of perspective,

što je metafora za mjesto s kojeg imamo drugu perspektivu,

where we can keep our eyes on the prize.

gdje možemo vidjeti ono što je doista važno.

Let me tell you a little story from my own negotiating experience.

Dopustite da vam ispričam priču iz svog vlastitog pregovaračkog iskustva.

Some years ago, I was involved as a facilitator in some very tough talks

Prije par godina, bio sam uključen kao podupiratelj

u nekim teškim pregovorima

between the leaders of Russia and the leaders of Chechnya.

između vođa Rusije

i vođa Čečenije.

There was a war going on, as you know.

U tijeku je bio rat, kao što znate.

Sastali smo se u Haagu,

And we met in the Hague, in the Peace Palace,

u Palači mira,

in the same room where the Yugoslav war-crimes tribunal was taking place.

u istoj sobi gdje se odvijalo suđenje

za ratne zločine počinjene na teritoriju bivše Jugoslavije.

And the talks got off to a rather rocky start

Pregovori su započeli loše

jer je podpredsjednik Čečenije

when the vice president of Chechnya began by pointing at the Russians

počeo upirati prstom u Ruse i rekao,

and said, "You should stay right here in your seats,

"Ostanite radije ovdje u svojim stolicama,

because you're going to be on trial for war crimes."

jer ćete završiti na suđenju za ratne zločine."

I onda je nastavio, i okrenuo se meni i rekao,

And then he turned to me and said,

"You're an American.

"Vi ste Amerikanac.

Look at what you Americans are doing in Puerto Rico."

Pogledajte što vi Amerikanci radite u Puerto Ricu."

And my mind started racing, "Puerto Rico? What do I know about Puerto Rico?"

I ja sam u panici pomislio, "Puerto Rico? Što znam o Puerto Ricu?"

I počeo sam reagirati,

I started reacting.

(Laughter)

ali onda sam se prisjetio da treba "otići na balkon".

But then, I tried to remember to go to the balcony.

I onda, kad je on zastao,

And then when he paused

and everyone looked at me for a response,

i svi su čekali moj odgovor,

from a balcony perspective, I was able to thank him for his remarks

iz perspektive balkona, ja sam mu uspio zahvaliti na njegovim primjedbama

and say, "I appreciate your criticism of my country

i reći, "Cijenim vaše kritike moje zemlje,

and I take it as a sign that we're among friends

i uzimam to kao znak da smo prijatelji

i da možemo otvoreno razgovarati.

and can speak candidly to one another."

(Laughter)

Ovdje smo ne da bismo pričali o Puerto Ricu ili o prošlosti.

"And what we're here to do is not to talk about Puerto Rico or the past.

Ovdje smo da vidimo možemo li naći načina

We're here to see if we can figure out a way

to stop the suffering and the bloodshed in Chechnya."

da zaustavimo patnje i krvoproliće u Čečeniji."

Razgovor se vratio na početnu temu.

The conversation got back on track.

That's the role of the third side,

To je uloga treće strane,

to help the parties go to the balcony.

pomoći dvjema stranama da odu na balkon.

Pođimo sad na trenutak

Now let me take you, for a moment,

to what's widely regarded as the world's most difficult conflict,

na mjesto gdje se smatra da vlada najteži sukob na svijetu,

ili sukob koji je nemoguće razriješiti,

or the most impossible conflict, the Middle East.

Bliski Istok.

Question is: where's the third side there?

Pitanje je: Gdje je tamo treća strana?

How could we possibly go to the balcony?

Kako bismo mogli "otići na balkon"?

Now, I don't pretend to have an answer to the Middle East conflict,

Neću se pretvarati da imam odgovor

na pitanje sukoba na Bliskom Istoku,

but I think I've got a first step -- literally, a first step --

ali mislim da imam prvi korak,

doslovno prvi korak,

something that any one of us could do as third-siders.

nešto što bilo tko od nas može učiniti kao treća strana.

Let me just ask you one question first.

Prvo bih vam postavio jedno pitanje.

How many of you in the last years

Koliko se vas,

poslijednjih godina,

zabrinulo zbog Bliskog Istoka

have ever found yourself worrying about the Middle East

pitajući se što bi itko mogao učiniti?

and wondering what anyone could do?

Just out of curiosity, how many of you?

Samo iz znatiželje, koliko vas?

OK, so the great majority of us.

OK, znači velika većina.

And here, it's so far away.

I to ovdje, tako daleko.

Why do we pay so much attention to this conflict?

Zašto poklanjamo toliko pažnje tom sukobu?

Is it the number of deaths?

Je li zbog broja poginulih?

There are a hundred times more people who die in a conflict in Africa

Stotinu puta više ljudi umire

u sukobima u Africi nego na Bliskom Istoku.

than in the Middle East.

No, it's because of the story,

Ne, to je zbog priče,

because we feel personally involved in that story.

jer se osjećamo osobno upletenima

u tu priču.

Whether we're Christians, Muslims or Jews, religious or non-religious,

Bili mi kršćani, muslimani ili židovi,

religiozni ili ne-religiozni,

we feel we have a personal stake in it.

osjećamo da imamo osobni udio u tome.

Stories matter;

Priče su važne. Kao antropolog, ja to znam.

as an anthropologist, I know that.

Stories are what we use to transmit knowledge.

Priče su ono što koristimo da bismo prenijeli znanje.

One daju značenje našim životima.

They give meaning to our lives.

That's what we tell here at TED, we tell stories.

To je ono što radimo na TED-u, pričamo priče.

Priče su ključne.

Stories are the key.

And so my question is --

I moje pitanje je,

yes, let's try and resolve the politics there in the Middle East,

da, idemo pokušati razriješiti politiku

tamo na Bliskom Istoku,

but let's also take a look at the story.

ali idemo i pogledati priču.

Let's try to get at the root of what it's all about.

Pokušajmo vidjeti o čemu se radi u korijenu.

Let's see if we can apply the third side to it.

Idemo vidjeti možemo li primijeniti treću stranu.

Što bi to značilo? Koja je tamo priča?

What would that mean? What is the story there?

Kao antropolozi, mi znamo

Now, as anthropologists, we know that every culture has an origin story.

da svaka kultura ima priču o svom nastanku.

What's the origin story of the Middle East?

Koja je priča o nastanku na Bliskom Istoku?

In a phrase, it's:

U jednoj frazi, to je:

Four thousand years ago,

Prije 4000 godina, čovjek i njegova obitelj

a man and his family walked across the Middle East,

prepješačili su preko Bliskog Istoka,

and the world has never been the same since.

i svijet više nikada nije bio isti.

Taj čovjek, naravno,

That man, of course, was Abraham.

bio je Abraham.

And what he stood for was unity, the unity of the family;

I on znači jedinstvo,

jedinstvo obitelji.

he's the father of us all.

On je otac svih nas.

But it's not just what he stood for, it's what his message was.

Ali nije samo što je on značio, bitna je i njegova poruka.

Njegova osnovna poruka je također jedinstvo,

His basic message was unity too,

the interconnectedness of it all, the unity of it all.

međupovezanost svega i jedinstvo svega.

And his basic value was respect,

I njegova osnovna vrijednost je bila poštovanje,

was kindness toward strangers.

ljubaznost prema strancima.

That's what he's known for, his hospitality.

Po tome je on poznat, po gostoljubivosti.

I u tom smislu,

So in that sense,

he's the symbolic third side of the Middle East.

on je simbolička treća strana

na Bliskom Istoku.

He's the one who reminds us that we're all part of a greater whole.

On je taj koji nas podsjeća

da smo svi dio veće cjeline.

Now, think about that for a moment.

Kako biste sada --

razmislite o tome na trenutak.

Today, we face the scourge of terrorism.

Danas smo suočeni s terorizmom.

What is terrorism?

Što je terorizam?

Terrorism is basically taking an innocent stranger

Terorizam u principu znači da uzmete nevinog stranca

and treating them as an enemy whom you kill in order to create fear.

i tretirate ga kao neprijatelja kojeg ubijete

da biste proširili strah.

What's the opposite of terrorism?

Što je suprotno terorizmu?

Uzeti nevinog stranca

It's taking an innocent stranger

and treating them as a friend whom you welcome into your home,

i tretirati ga kao prijatelja

koga ugostite u svom domu

in order to sow and create understanding

da biste proširili razumijevanje,

ili poštovanje, ili ljubav.

or respect, or love.

So what if, then, you took the story of Abraham,

I što kad biste onda

uzeli priču o Abrahamu,

which is a third-side story,

što je priča o "trećoj strani",

what if that could be --

što kad bi to bilo --

because Abraham stands for hospitality --

jer Abraham predstavlja gostoljubivost --

what if that could be an antidote to terrorism?

što kad bi to bio serum protiv terorizma?

What if that could be a vaccine against religious intolerance?

Što kad bi to bilo cjepivo

protiv religijske netolerancije?

How would you bring that story to life?

Kako biste tu priču preveli u stvarnost?

Now, it's not enough just to tell a story.

No, nije dovoljno samo ispričati priču --

to je moćno --

That's powerful, but people need to experience the story.

ali ljudi moraju iskusiti tu priču.

They need to be able to live the story.

Oni moraju biti u mogućnosti živjeti tu priču. Kako biste to postigli?

How would you do that?

And that was my thinking of how would you do that.

I to je moje razmišljanje kako to postići.

And that's what comes to the first step here.

I što je ovdje prvi korak.

Because the simple way to do that is:

Jednostavan način da se to postigne

je da krenete u šetnju.

you go for a walk.

You go for a walk in the footsteps of Abraham.

Da krenete koracima Abrahama.

You retrace the footsteps of Abraham.

Da ponovo pronađete njegove stope.

Because walking has a real power.

Jer u šetnji je prava moć.

You know, as an anthropologist, walking is what made us human.

Kao antropolozi, znamo da nas je hod učinio ljudima.

It's funny -- when you walk, you walk side-by-side,

Zanimljivo je da, kad hodate,

idete bok uz bok

in the same common direction.

u istom zajedničkom smjeru.

Now if I were to come to you face-to-face

Kad bih vam prišao licem u lice

and come this close to you,

i došao ovako blizu,

you would feel threatened.

osjećali biste se ugroženima.

But if I walk shoulder-to-shoulder,

Ali ako hodamo rame uz rame,

čak dodirujući se ramenima,

even touching shoulders,

it's no problem.

to nije problem.

Who fights while they walk?

Tko se svađa dok hoda?

That's why in negotiations, often, when things get tough,

Zato prilikom pregovora, kad se oni zaoštre,

people go for walks in the woods.

ljudi idu u šetnju u šumu.

So the idea came to me of, what about inspiring a path,

Tako sam došao na ideju

za inspiraciju

puta, rute --

a route -- think the Silk Route, think the Appalachian Trail --

poput puta svile, poput rute Appalacha --

that followed in the footsteps of Abraham?

koji bi slijedio korake

Abrahama.

Ljudi su rekli, "To je ludost. Ne možeš.

People said, "That's crazy. You can't.

You can't retrace the footsteps of Abraham -- it's too insecure,

Ne možeš proći koracima Abrahama. Nije sigurno.

you've got to cross all these borders,

Morao bi prijeći sve te granice.

it goes across 10 different countries in the Middle East,

On ide preko 10 različitih zemalja Bliskog Istoka,

jer ih sve ujedinjuje."

because it unites them all."

I onda smo proučavali tu ideju na Harvardu.

And so we studied the idea at Harvard.

Potrudili smo se.

We did our due diligence.

And then a few years ago,

I potom smo, prije nekoliko godina, grupa nas,

a group of us, about 25 of us from 10 different countries,

oko 25 iz 10 različitih zemalja,

decided to see if we could retrace the footsteps of Abraham,

odlučili doznati možemo li poći tragom Abrahama,

krenuvši iz njegovog rodnog grada Urfe

going from his initial birthplace in the city of Urfa

u južnoj Turskoj, sjevernoj Mezopotamiji.

in Southern Turkey, Northern Mesopotamia.

And we then took a bus and took some walks

I potom smo sjeli na autobus i hodali

and went to Harran, where, in the Bible, he sets off on his journey.

i dosli u Harran,

gdje, u Bibliji, on kreće na svoj put.

Then we crossed the border into Syria, went to Aleppo,

Prešli smo granicu i ušli u Siriju, u Aleppo,

which, turns out, is named after Abraham.

koji se ispostavilo da je nazvan po Abrahamu.

We went to Damascus,

Otišli smo u Damask,

which has a long history associated with Abraham.

koji ima dugu povijest povezanu s Abrahamom.

Potom smo došli u sjeverni Jordan,

We then came to Northern Jordan,

to Jerusalem -- which is all about Abraham -- to Bethlehem,

u Jeruzalem,

koji je sav o Abrahamu, pa u Betlehem,

and finally, to the place where he's buried, in Hebron.

i naposlijetku na mjesto gdje je pokopan,

u Hebron.

So effectively, we went from womb to tomb.

Išli smo iz maternice u grobnicu.

We showed it could be done.

Pokazali smo da je moguće. Bilo je to nevjerojatno putovanje.

It was an amazing journey.

Let me ask you a question.

Postavio bih vam pitanje.

How many of you have had the experience of being in a strange neighborhood

Koliko je vas imalo iskustvo

biti u stranom susjedstvu,

or strange land,

stranoj zemlji,

and a total stranger, perfect stranger,

i potpuni stranac,

dođe do vas i pokaže vam ljubaznost,

comes up to you and shows you some kindness --

maybe invites you into their home, gives you a drink,

možda vas pozove u svoj dom, ponudi piće,

dade vam kavu, obrok?

gives you a coffee, gives you a meal?

Koliko vas je imalo to iskustvo?

How many of you have ever had that experience?

To je bit

That's the essence of the Abraham Path.

Abrahamovog puta.

That's what you discover as you go into these villages in the Middle East

Ali to je ono što otkrijete, kad idete u ta sela na Bliskom Istoku

gdje očekujete neprijateljsvo,

where you expect hostility,

a dobijete nevjerojatnu gostoljubivost,

and you get the most amazing hospitality,

sve vezano uz Abrahama.

all associated with Abraham:

"U ime oca Abrahama,

"In the name of Father Ibrahim, let me offer you some food."

mogu li vam ponuditi nešto hrane."

So what we discovered

Ono što smo otkrili

is that Abraham is not just a figure out of a book for those people;

jest da, za te ljude, Abraham nije samo lik iz knjige,

he's alive, he's a living presence.

on je živ, i zaista prisutan.

And to make a long story short,

Da skratim priču,

in the last couple of years now,

u zadnje dvije godine,

thousands of people have begun to walk parts of the path of Abraham

tisuće ljudi

počele su hodati putem Abrahama

na Bliskom Istoku

in the Middle East,

enjoying the hospitality of the people there.

uživajući u gostoljubivosti tamošnjih ljudi.

They've begun to walk in Israel and Palestine,

Počeli su hodati

u Izraelu i Palestini,

in Jordan, in Turkey, in Syria.

Jordanu, Turskoj, Siriji.

To je nevjerojatno iskustvo.

It's an amazing experience.

Men, women, young people, old people --

Muškarci, žene, mladi, stari --

more women than men, actually, interestingly.

više žena nego muškaraca zapravo, zanimljivo.

For those who can't walk,

Za one koji ne mogu hodati,

who are unable to get there right now,

koji ne mogu trenutno ići tamo,

people started to organize walks in cities, in their own communities.

počele su se organizirati šetnje

u gradovima, u njihovim vlastitim zajednicama.

In Cincinnati, for instance, they organized a walk

U Cincinnatiju, na primjer, organizirali su šetnju

od crkve do džamije pa do sinagoge

from a church to a mosque to a synagogue and all had an Abrahamic meal together.

i onda su svi zajedno pojeli Abrahamov obrok.

It was Abraham Path Day.

Bio je to dan Abrahamovog puta.

In São Paulo, Brazil, it's become an annual event

U Sao Paulu, Brazil, to je postao godišnji događaj

for thousands of people to run in a virtual Abraham Path Run,

kad tisuće ljudi trče

u trci virtualnog Abrahamovog puta,

uniting the different communities.

ujedinjujući različite zajednice.

The media love it; they really adore it.

Mediji to vole, zaista to obožavaju.

They lavish attention on it because it's visual

Posvećuju im puno pažnje

jer je vizualno,

and it spreads the idea,

i jer širi ideju,

this idea of Abrahamic hospitality, of kindness towards strangers.

ideju o Abrahamskoj gostoljubivosti

i ljubaznosti prema strancima.

And just a couple weeks ago, there was an NPR story on it.

I samo prije par tjedana

NPR (nacionalni radio) je o tome napravio reportažu.

Last month,

Prošli mjesec,

there was a piece in the Manchester Guardian about it,

bio je članak u Guardianu,

u Manchester Guardianu, o tome --

two whole pages.

pune dvije stranice.

And they quoted a villager

Citirali su seljaka

who said, "This walk connects us to the world."

koji je rekao, "Ova šetnja povezuje nas sa svijetom."

He said, "It was like a light that went on in our lives --

Rekao je da je to bilo poput svjetla koje se upalilo u našim životima.

it brought us hope."

Donijelo nam je nadu.

And so that's what it's about.

O tome se radi.

But it's not just about psychology;

Ali nije to samo psihologija,

it's about economics.

to je ekonomija,

Because as people walk, they spend money.

jer kako ljudi hodaju, tako troše novac.

And this woman right here, Um Ahmad,

Ova žena ovdje, Um Ahmad,

is a woman who lives on the path in Northern Jordan.

ona živi na putu u Sjevernom Jordanu.

She's desperately poor.

Očajno je siromašna.

She's partially blind, her husband can't work,

Dijelom je slijepa, njezin muž ne može raditi,

she's got seven kids.

ima sedmoro djece.

But what she can do is cook.

Ali može kuhati.

And so she's begun to cook for some groups of walkers

I tako je počela kuhati za neke grupe šetača

who come through the village and have a meal in her home.

koji su prolazili kroz selo i jeli u njezinom domu.

Sjedili su na podu.

They sit on the floor -- she doesn't even have a tablecloth.

Ona nema niti stolnjak.

She makes the most delicious food,

Ali kuha najukusniju hranu

that's fresh from the herbs in the surrounding countryside.

sa svježim biljem iz okolne prirode.

And so more and more walkers have come,

I tako je počelo dolaziti sve više ljudi.

and lately she's begun to earn an income to support her family.

Nedavno je počela zarađivati dovoljno

da uzdržava svoju obitelj.

And so she told our team there, she said,

Rekla je našem timu,

"You have made me visible

"Učinili ste me vidljivom

in a village where people were once ashamed to look at me."

u selu gdje su se ljudi sramili

u mene pogledati."

To je potencijal Abrahamovog puta.

That's the potential of the Abraham Path.

There are literally hundreds of those kinds of communities

Ima doslovce na stotine takvih zajednica

na Bliskom Istoku, uz taj put.

across the Middle East, across the path.

The potential is basically to change the game.

Potencijal je zapravo, promijeniti igru.

And to change the game, you have to change the frame, the way we see things --

A da bismo promijenili igru, morate promijeniti okvir,

način na koji gledamo na stvari --

to change the frame from hostility to hospitality,

da bismo promijenili okvir razmišljanja

od neprijateljstva do gostoprimstva,

from terrorism to tourism.

od terorizma do turizma.

And in that sense, the Abraham Path

I u tom smislu, Abrahamov put

mijenja igru.

is a game-changer.

Dozvolite da vam pokažem jednu stvar.

Let me just show you one thing.

I have a little acorn here

Imam ovdje mali žir

that I picked up while I was walking on the path earlier this year.

koji sam pokupio dok sam hodao tim putem

početkom ove godine.

Now, the acorn is associated with the oak tree, of course --

Žir dolazi od hrastovog stabla, naravno --

on izrasta u hrast,

grows into an oak tree, which is associated with Abraham.

koji je vezan uz Abrahama.

The path right now is like an acorn;

Put je trenutno poput žira;

it's still in its early phase.

još je u ranoj fazi.

What would the oak tree look like?

Kako će izgledati hrast?

When I think back to my childhood,

Prisjećam se svog djetinjstva,

a good part of which I spent, after being born here in Chicago,

čiji sam veći dio proveo, nakon što sam se rodio u Chicagu,

proveo sam ga u Europi.

I spent in Europe.

Ako ste bili

If you had been in the ruins of, say, London in 1945, or Berlin,

recimo, među ruševinama Londona

1945., ili Berlina,

and you had said,

i rekli ste,

"Sixty years from now,

"Za 60 godina,

this is going to be the most peaceful, prosperous part of the planet,"

ovo će biti najmirniji i najrazvijeniji dio planeta,"

ljudi bi pomislili

people would have thought you were certifiably insane.

da ste definitivno ludi.

But they did it, thanks to a common identity, Europe,

Ali oni su to učinili zahvaljujući zajedničkom identitetu -- Europi --

and a common economy.

i zajedničkom gospodarstvu.

So my question is, if it can be done in Europe,

Moje pitanje je, ako se to moglo učiniti u Europi,

why not in the Middle East?

zašto ne na Bliskom Istoku?

Why not, thanks to a common identity, which is the story of Abraham,

Zašto ne, zahvaljujući zajedničkom identitetu --

a to je priča o Abrahamu --

and thanks to a common economy that would be based, in good part, on tourism?

i zahvaljujući zajedničkom gospodarstvu

koje bi se većim dijelom temeljio na turizmu?

So let me conclude, then,

Dozvolite da zaključim

by saying that in the last 35 years,

tako što ću reći da u zadnjih 35 godina,

koliko sam radio

as I've worked in some of the most dangerous,

na nekim od najopasnijih, najtežih i najtvrdoglavijih

difficult and intractable conflicts around the planet,

sukoba na planetu,

I have yet to see one conflict that I felt could not be transformed.

još uvijek nisam vidio onaj sukob

za kojeg sam mislio da se ne može transformirati.

It's not easy, of course.

Nije lako, naravno,

But it's possible.

ali je moguće.

It was done in South Africa.

Dogodilo se u Južnoafričkoj Republici.

It was done in Northern Ireland.

Dogodilo se Sjevernoj Irskoj.

It could be done anywhere.

Može se postići bilo gdje.

It simply depends on us.

To jednostavno ovisi o nama.

It depends on us taking the third side.

Ovisi o nama da postanemo treća strana.

I dozvolite mi da vas pozovem

So let me invite you to consider taking the third side,

da pokušate zauzeti treću stranu,

even as a very small step.

čak i kao vrlo mali korak.

We're about to take a break in a moment.

Uskoro ćemo imati pauzu.

Just go up to someone

Jednostavno priđite nekome

who's from a different culture, a different country,

tko je iz druge kulture, druge zemlje,

a different ethnicity -- some difference --

drugog etniciteta, nešto različit,

and engage them in a conversation.

i popričajte s njima; poslušajte ih.

Listen to them.

That's a third-side act.

To je čin treće strane.

That's walking Abraham's Path.

To znači hodati putem Abrahama.

After a TED Talk,

Nakon TED govora,

why not a TED Walk?

zašto ne TED šetnja?

(Laughter)

Dopustite da vas ostavim

So let me just leave you with three things.

s tri stvari.

Jedna je, da je tajna mira

One is, the secret to peace is the third side.

ta treća strana.

The third side is us.

Treća strana smo mi,

svatko od nas,

Each of us, with a single step,

malim korakom,

can take the world, can bring the world

može dovesti svijet

a step closer to peace.

korak bliže miru.

There's an old African proverb that goes:

Stara afrička poslovica glasi:

"When spiderwebs unite,

"Kad se pauci ujedine,

they can halt even the lion."

mogu zadržati čak i lava."

If we're able to unite our third-side webs of peace,

Ako uspijemo ujediniti

mreže mira naše treće strane,

moći ćemo zaustaviti čak i lava rata.

we can even halt the lion of war.

Puno vam hvala.

Thank you very much.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)