This is what it's like to go undercover in North Korea | Suki Kim

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Translator: Núria Brufau Reviewer: Cristina Domínguez Roca
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In 2011, during the final six months of Kim Jong-Il's life,
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El 2011, durant els sis últims mesos
de vida de Kim Jong-II,
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I lived undercover in North Korea.
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vaig viure clandestinament a Corea del Nord.
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I was born and raised in South Korea, their enemy.
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Vaig néixer i créixer a Corea del Sud,
el seu enemic.
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I live in America, their other enemy.
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Visc a Amèrica, el seu altre enemic.
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Since 2002, I had visited North Korea a few times.
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Des del 2002 havia visitat Corea del Nord
algunes vegades.
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And I had come to realize that to write about it with any meaning,
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I m'havia adonat que,
per poder escriure sobre Corea del Nord lliurement,
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or to understand the place beyond the regime's propaganda,
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o per poder entendre el país més enllà
de la propaganda del règim,
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the only option was total immersion.
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l'única opció era la immersió total.
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So I posed as a teacher and a missionary
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Em vaig fer passar per professora i missionera
a una universitat de nois de Pyongyang.
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at an all-male university in Pyongyang.
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The Pyongyang University of Science and Technology
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La Universitat de Ciències i Tecnologia de Pyongyang
va ser fundada per cristians evangèlics
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was founded by Evangelical Christians who cooperate with the regime
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que van cooperar amb el règim
per educar els fills de l'elit nord-coreana,
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to educate the sons of the North Korean elite,
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sense proselitisme, que allà és un crim capital.
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without proselytizing, which is a capital crime there.
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Els estudiants eren 270 nois,
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The students were 270 young men, expected to be the future leaders
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que se suposava que serien els futurs líders
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of the most isolated and brutal dictatorship in existence.
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de la dictadura més aïllada i brutal que existeix.
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When I arrived, they became my students.
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Quan vaig arribar, van esdevenir
els meus estudiants.
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2011 was a special year,
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El 2011 era un any especial
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marking the 100th anniversary of the birth of North Korea's original Great Leader,
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se celebrava el 100è aniversari del naixement del Gran Líder de Corea del Nord,
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Kim Il-Sung.
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Kim-II Sung
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To celebrate the occasion, the regime shut down all universities,
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Per celebrar l'esdeveniment,
el règim va tancar totes les universitats
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and sent students off to the fields
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i va enviar els estudiants al camp
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to build the DPRK's much-heralded ideal
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per elaborar la proclamació del Partit Democràtic de Corea del Nord
com la nació més pròspera i poderosa.
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as the world's most powerful and prosperous nation.
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Els meus estudiants van ser els únics
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My students were the only ones spared from that fate.
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que es van salvar d'aquella sort.
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North Korea is a gulag posing as a nation.
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Corea del Nord és un gulag que es fa passar per nació.
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Everything there is about the Great Leader.
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Tot el que passa allà té a veure amb el Gran Líder.
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Every book, every newspaper article, every song, every TV program --
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Cada llibre, cada article, cada cançó, cada programa televisiu
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there is just one subject.
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té un únic tema.
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The flowers are named after him,
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Les flors duen el seu nom,
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the mountains are carved with his slogans.
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els seus eslògans s'excaven a les muntanyes,
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Every citizen wears the badge of the Great Leader at all times.
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tots els ciutadans porten sempre la insígnia del Gran Líder.
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Even their calendar system begins with the birth of Kim Il-Sung.
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Fins i tot el calendari comença amb el naixement de Kim II-Sung.
La unversitat era una presó totalment vigilada,
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The school was a heavily guarded prison, posing as a campus.
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que es feia passar per campus.
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Teachers could only leave on group outings accompanied by an official minder.
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Els professors només podien sortir en grup,
acompanyats per un escolta oficial.
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Even then, our trips were limited to sanctioned national monuments
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Tanmateix, les nostres excursions es limitaven a
monuments nacionals autoritzats que homenatjaven el Gran Líder.
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celebrating the Great Leader.
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The students were not allowed to leave the campus,
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Els estudiants no tenien permís ni per sortir del campus
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or communicate with their parents.
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ni per comunicar-se amb els seus pares.
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Their days were meticulously mapped out, and any free time they had
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Els seus dies es planificaven meticulosament
i tot el temps lliure que tenien
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was devoted to honoring their Great Leader.
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el dedicaven a homenatjar el Gran Líder.
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Lesson plans had to meet the approval of North Korean staff,
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Les lliçons havien d'estar aprovades per personal de Corea del Nord,
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every class was recorded and reported on, every room was bugged,
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es gravava i declarava cada classe
i hi havia micròfons ocults a cada aula.
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and every conversation, overheard.
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Cada conversa s'escoltava.
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Every blank space was covered with the portraits of Kim Il-Sung and Kim Jong-Il,
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Cada espai buit s'emplenava amb retrats de Kim Il-Sung i Kim Jong-Il,
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like everywhere else in North Korea.
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com a tot arreu a Corea del Nord.
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We were never allowed to discuss the outside world.
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Mai no teníem permís per parlar sobre el món de fora.
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As students of science and technology, many of them were computer majors
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Molts dels estudiants de ciències i tecnologia s'especialitzaven en informàtica,
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but they did not know the existence of the Internet.
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però desconeixien l'existència d'Internet.
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They had never heard of Mark Zuckerberg or Steve Jobs.
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Mai no havien sentit a parlar de Mark Zuckerberg o Steve Jobs.
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Facebook, Twitter -- none of those things would have meant a thing.
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i no sabien què era Facebook o Twitter.
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And I could not tell them.
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I jo no els ho podia explicar.
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I went there looking for truth.
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Me'n vaig anar allà a buscar la veritat,
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But where do you even start when an entire nation's ideology,
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¿però com pots començar quan tota la ideologia d'una nació,
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my students' day-to-day realities,
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la realitat diària dels meus estudiants,
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and even my own position at the universities,
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i fins i tot la meva pròpia posició a la universitat,
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were all built on lies?
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estava basada en mentides?
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I started with a game.
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Vaig començar amb un joc:
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We played "Truth and Lie."
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jugàvem a "Veritat i mentida".
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A volunteer would write a sentence on the chalkboard,
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Un voluntari escrivia una frase a la pissarra
i els altres estudiants havien d'endevinar
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and the other students had to guess
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si es tractava d'una veritat o d'una mentida.
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whether it was a truth or a lie.
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04:51
Once a student wrote, "I visited China last year on vacation,"
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Un dels estudiants va escriure:
"L'any passat me'n vaig anar a la Xina de vacances",
i tothom va cridar: "Mentida!"
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and everyone shouted, "Lie!"
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Tots sabien que era impossible.
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They all knew this wasn't possible.
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05:01
Virtually no North Korean is allowed to leave the country.
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Pràcticament cap nord-coreà te permís per sortir del país.
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Even traveling within their own country requires a travel pass.
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Fins i tot, per viatjar pel país cal un passaport.
Tenia l'esperança que aquell joc revelés alguna veritat sobre els meus estudiants,
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I had hoped that this game would reveal some truth about my students,
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because they lie so often and so easily,
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perquè menteixen molt sovint i molt fàcilment,
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whether about the mythical accomplishments of their Great Leader,
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ja sigui sobre les mítiques proeses del Gran Líder
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or the strange claim that they cloned a rabbit as fifth graders.
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o afirmant que van clonar un conill a Cinquè de Primària.
Per ells, la diferència entre veritat i mentida és borrosa.
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The difference between truth and lies seemed at times hazy to them.
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It took me a while to understand the different types of lies;
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Vaig necessitar temps per entendre els seus tipus de mentides.
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they lie to shield their system from the world,
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Mentien per protegir el seu sistema del món,
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or they were taught lies, and were just regurgitating them.
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o repetien com a lloros mentides que els havien ensenyat.
A vegades, mentien per inèrcia.
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Or, at moments, they lied out of habit.
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Però si tot el que saben són mentides,
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But if all they have ever known were lies,
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how could we expect them to be otherwise?
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¿com podem pretendre que siguin?
Després, els vaig intentar ensenyar a escriure redaccions,
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Next, I tried to teach them essay writing.
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But that turned out to be nearly impossible.
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però va resultar ser gairebé impossible.
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Essays are about coming up with one's own thesis,
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Amb les redaccions cadascú ha d'escriure la seva pròpia tesi,
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and making an evidence-based argument to prove it.
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argumentant-la amb evidència per validar-la.
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These students, however, were simply told what to think,
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Però a aquests estudiants els diuen el què han de pensar
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and they obeyed.
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i ells obeeixen.
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In their world, critical thinking was not allowed.
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Al seu món, el pensament crític no estava permès.
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I also gave them the weekly assignment of writing a personal letter,
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També els vaig donar els deures setmanals
d'escriure una carta a algú.
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to anybody.
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Va caldre molt de temps, però finalment
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It took a long time, but eventually some of them began to write
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alguns d'ells van començar a escriure a la seves mares,
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to their mothers, their friends, their girlfriends.
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als seus amics, a les seves xicotes.
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Although those were just homework,
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Encara que només eren deures, i mai no arribarien als seus destinataris,
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and would never reach their intended recipients,
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els meus alumnes van començar a revelar
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my students slowly began to reveal their true feelings in them.
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els seus sentiments a les cartes.
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They wrote that they were fed up with the sameness of everything.
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Escrivien que estaven farts de la monotonia de tot.
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They were worried about their future.
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Estaven preocupats pel seu futur.
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In those letters, they rarely ever mentioned their Great Leader.
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En aquelles cartes, mencionaven el Gran Líder en molt poques ocasions.
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I was spending all of my time with these young men.
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Passava tot el meu temps amb aquells nois:
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We all ate meals together, played basketball together.
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menjàvem junts, jugàvem a bàsquet junts...
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I often called them gentlemen, which made them giggle.
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Sovint, els anomenava "gentleman",
cosa que els feia riure nerviosament.
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They blushed at the mention of girls.
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Es ruboritzaven si es mencionaven noies.
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And I came to adore them.
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Vaig acabar per adorar-los.
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And watching them open up even in the tiniest of ways,
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I veure'ls obrir-se, encara que molt a poc a poc,
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was deeply moving.
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era, senzillament, emotiu.
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But something also felt wrong.
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Però alguna cosa em feia sentir malament.
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During those months of living in their world,
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Durant aquells mesos en els que vivia al seu món,
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I often wondered if the truth would, in fact, improve their lives.
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em vaig preguntar, sovint,
si la veritat milloraria les seves vides.
Desitjava dir-los la veritat,
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I wanted so much to tell them the truth,
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07:54
of their country and of the outside world,
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la del seu país i la del món exterior,
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where Arab youth were turning their rotten regime inside out,
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on el jovent àrab estava capgirant el seu règim podrit
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using the power of social media,
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amb el poder de les noves tecnologies;
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where everyone except them was connected through the world wide web,
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on tothom, excepte ells, estava connectat a la xarxa.
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which wasn't worldwide after all.
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08:13
But for them, the truth was dangerous.
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Però, per a ells, la veritat era perillosa.
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By encouraging them to run after it, I was putting them at risk --
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Encoratjar-los a buscar la veritat era posar-los
en perill de persecució, d'angoixa.
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of persecution,
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08:26
of heartbreak.
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Quan no tens permís per expressar res obertament,
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When you're not allowed to express anything in the open,
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08:33
you become good at reading what is unspoken.
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aprens a llegir el silenci.
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In one of their personal letters to me, a student wrote that he understood
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En una de les cartes personals, un estudiant
va escriure que entenia perquè jo els anomenava "gentlemen".
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why I always called them gentlemen.
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08:46
It was because I was wishing them to be gentle in life, he said.
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Va dir que era perquè jo els desitjava que fossin tranquils, amables, a la vida.
Al meu últim dia, el desembre de 2011, quan es va anunciar la mort de Kim Jong-II,
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On my last day in December of 2011,
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the day Kim Jong-Il's death was announced,
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09:00
their world shattered.
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el seu món es va trencar en mil bocins.
Vaig haver de marxar sense acomiadar-me com Déu mana,
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I had to leave without a proper goodbye.
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09:08
But I think they knew how sad I was for them.
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però crec que sabien com de trista estava per ells.
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Once, toward the end of my stay, a student said to me,
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Un cop, cap al final de la meva estada, un alumne em digué:
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"Professor, we never think of you as being different from us.
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"Professora, no et considerem diferent de nosaltres.
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Our circumstances are different, but you're the same as us.
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Les nostres circumstàncies són diferents, però ets la mateixa que nosaltres"
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We want you to know that we truly think of you as being the same."
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Volem que sàpigues que realment et veiem com una de nosaltres.
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Today, if I could respond to my students with a letter of my own,
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Avui, si pogués respondre als meus alumnes
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which is of course impossible,
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amb una carta escrita per mi, -cosa impossible, és clar-,
els respondria:
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I would tell them this:
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09:49
"My dear gentlemen,
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"Estimats "gentlemen" meus,
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It's been a bit over three years since I last saw you.
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han passat moltes coses des que us vaig veure
per últim cop ara fa tres anys.
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And now, you must be 22 -- maybe even as old as 23.
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I ara, deveu tenir 22 anys, o fins i tot 23.
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At our final class, I asked you if there was anything you wanted.
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A la nostra última classe, us vaig preguntar
si volíeu alguna cosa.
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The only wish you expressed, the only thing you ever asked of me
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L'únic desig que vau expressar,
l'única cosa que mai em vau demanar
en tots els mesos que vam passar junts,
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in all those months we spent together,
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va ser que us parlés en coreà.
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was for me to speak to you in Korean.
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Només un cop.
10:15
Just once.
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Jo estava allà per ensenyar-vos anglès,
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I was there to teach you English;
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10:19
you knew it wasn't allowed.
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i sabíeu que no es podia fer.
10:22
But I understood then, you wanted to share that bond of our mother tongue.
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Però vaig entendre que volíeu compartir
el lligam de la nostra llengua materna.
Us anomenava "gentlemen" meus,
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I called you my gentlemen,
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però no sé si ser un "gentlemen" a la despietada Corea del Nord de Kim Jong-II
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but I don't know if being gentle in Kim Jong-Un's merciless North Korea
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10:37
is a good thing.
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és quelcom bo.
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I don't want you to lead a revolution --
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No vull que lidereu una revolució.
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let some other young person do it.
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Deixeu que altres joves ho facin.
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The rest of the world might casually encourage or even expect
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La resta del món encoratjarà o esperarà, potser,
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some sort of North Korean Spring,
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algun tipus de "primavera coreana".
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but I don't want you to do anything risky,
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Però no vull que feu res arriscat,
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because I know in your world, someone is always watching.
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perquè sé que al vostre món sempre hi ha algú observant.
No em vull ni imaginar què us podria passar.
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I don't want to imagine what might happen to you.
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Si els meus intents d'arribar a vosaltres
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If my attempts to reach you have inspired something new in you,
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us han inspirat quelcom nou en vosaltres,
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I would rather you forget me.
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preferiria que m'oblidéssiu.
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Become soldiers of your Great Leader, and live long, safe lives.
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Esdeveniu soldats del vostre Gran líder
i tingueu una vida llarga i segura.
Una vegada, em vau preguntar si creia que la vostra ciutat, Pyongyang,
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You once asked me if I thought your city of Pyongyang was beautiful,
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era bonica.
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and I could not answer truthfully then.
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Aquell cop, no vaig poder respondre honradament.
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But I know why you asked.
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Però sé perquè ho vau preguntar.
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I know that it was important for you to hear that I, your teacher,
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Sé que per vosaltres era important que jo,
la vostra professora,
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the one who has seen the world that you are forbidden from,
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la que ha vist el món prohibit per vosaltres,
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declare your city as the most beautiful.
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proclamés la vostra ciutat la més bonica.
Sé que escoltar això us faria més tolerables,
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I know hearing that would make your lives there a bit more bearable,
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11:46
but no, I don't find your capital beautiful.
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però no, no considero la vostra capital bonica.
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Not because it's monotone and concrete,
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No perquè sigui monòtona i de formigó,
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but because of what it symbolizes:
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sinó pel que simbolitza:
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a monster that feeds off the rest of the country,
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un monstre que alimenta la resta del país,
12:00
where citizens are soldiers and slaves.
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on els ciutadans són soldats i esclaus.
Tot el que hi veig és foscor.
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All I see there is darkness.
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Però és casa vostra, i no la puc odiar.
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But it's your home, so I cannot hate it.
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12:13
And I hope instead that you, my lovely young gentlemen,
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En lloc d'això, espero, estimats "gentlemen" meus,
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will one day help make it beautiful.
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que algun dia ajudeu a fer-la bonica.
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Thank you.
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Gràcies.
(Aplaudiments)
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(Applause)
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