The politics of fiction | Elif Shafak

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Translator: Armin Talic Reviewer: Ivana Korom
00:15
I'm a storyteller.
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Ja sam pripovjedačica.
00:17
That's what I do in life -- telling stories,
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To je ono što radim u životu -
pripovjedam priče.
00:19
writing novels --
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pišem novele -
00:21
and today I would like to tell you a few stories
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i danas bih vam željela ispričati par priča
00:23
about the art of storytelling
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o umjetnosti pripovjedanja
00:25
and also some supernatural creatures
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i također o natprirodnim stvorenjima
00:27
called the djinni.
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zvanim džini.
00:29
But before I go there, please allow me to share with you
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Ali prije nego dođem do toga,
dopustite mi da podijelim sa vama
00:32
glimpses of my personal story.
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posebne trenutke iz mog privatnog života.
00:34
I will do so with the help of words, of course,
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Naravno to ću uraditi pomoću riječi
00:37
but also a geometrical shape, the circle,
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ali također i geometrijskog oblika - kruga
00:40
so throughout my talk,
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tako da ćete se kroz moju priču
00:42
you will come across several circles.
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susresti sa nekoliko krugova.
00:45
I was born in Strasbourg, France
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Rođena sam u Strasbourgu u Francuskoj
00:48
to Turkish parents.
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kao dijete turskih roditelja.
00:50
Shortly after, my parents got separated,
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Nedugo nakon mog rođenja roditelji su mi se razveli,
00:52
and I came to Turkey with my mom.
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i preselila sam se u Tursku sa majkom.
00:54
From then on, I was raised
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Od tada sam odgajana
00:56
as a single child by a single mother.
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kao jedino dijete samohrane majke.
00:58
Now in the early 1970s, in Ankara,
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U ranim 1970-im, u Ankari,
01:00
that was a bit unusual.
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to je bilo dosta neuobičajeno.
01:02
Our neighborhood was full of large families,
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U našem komšiluku je bilo puno velikih porodica,
01:04
where fathers were the heads of households,
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gdje su očevi biti glave porodice,
01:07
so I grew up seeing my mother as a divorcee
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tako da sam odrasla gledajući svoju samohranu majku
01:10
in a patriarchal environment.
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u patrijahalnom okruženju.
01:12
In fact, I grew up observing
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U stvari, odrasla sam posmatrajući
01:14
two different kinds of womanhood.
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dva različita svijeta žena.
01:16
On the one hand was my mother,
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Na jednoj strani je moja majka,
obrazovana, moderna, turska žena zapadnjačkih i sekularnih shvatanja.
01:18
a well-educated, secular, modern, westernized, Turkish woman.
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01:21
On the other hand was my grandmother,
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Na drugoj strani je moja nana,
01:23
who also took care of me
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koja se također brinula o meni,
01:25
and was more spiritual, less educated
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i koja je bila više spiritualna, a manje obrazovana
01:28
and definitely less rational.
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i zasigurno manje racionalna.
01:30
This was a woman who read coffee grounds to see the future
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Ona je bila žena koja je proricala
budućnost iz taloga kafe iz šolje
01:33
and melted lead into mysterious shapes
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i otapala olovo u mistične oblike
01:35
to fend off the evil eye.
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da stvori zaštitu od đavoljeg oka.
01:38
Many people visited my grandmother,
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Puno ljudi je posjećivalo moju nanu.
01:40
people with severe acne on their faces
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Ljudi sa problemima s aknama na licu,
01:42
or warts on their hands.
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ili bradavicama na rukama.
01:45
Each time, my grandmother would utter some words in Arabic,
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Svaki put, moja nana bi promumljala neke riječi na arapskom,
01:48
take a red apple and stab it
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uzela crvenu jabuku i probola je
sa toliko trnja ruža
01:50
with as many rose thorns
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01:52
as the number of warts she wanted to remove.
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koliko bi bradavica željela ukloniti.
01:55
Then one by one, she would
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Onda bi jedan po jedan
01:57
encircle these thorns with dark ink.
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trn okružila tamnom tintom.
02:00
A week later, the patient would come back
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Sedmicu kasnije, bolesnik bi se vratio
02:02
for a follow-up examination.
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na kontrolu.
02:04
Now, I'm aware that I should not be saying such things
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Svjesna sam da ne bih trebala reći ove stvari
02:07
in front of an audience of scholars and scientists,
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pred publikom obrazovanih ljudi i naučnika,
02:10
but the truth is, of all the people
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ali istina je da su svi ovi ljudi
02:12
who visited my grandmother for their skin conditions,
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koji bi posjetili moju nanu zbog problema sa kožom
02:15
I did not see anyone go back
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nisam vidjela nikoga da bi otišao
02:17
unhappy or unhealed.
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nezadovoljan ili neizlječen.
02:20
I asked her how she did this. Was it the power of praying?
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Pitala sam je kako to radi. Da li je to moć molitve?
02:23
In response she said, "Yes, praying is effective,
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Odgovorila bi mi "Da, molitva je efikasna,
02:26
but also beware of the power of circles."
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ali također moraš biti svjesna moći koju krugovi imaju."
02:29
From her, I learned, amongst many other things,
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Između ostalog od nje sam naučila
02:32
one very precious lesson --
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jednu vrijednu lekciju -
02:34
that if you want to destroy something in this life,
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ako želiš nešto uništiti u životu,
02:36
be it an acne, a blemish
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bila to akna, nedostatak,
02:38
or the human soul,
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ili ljudska duša,
02:40
all you need to do is to surround it with thick walls.
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sve što trebaš uraditi je da to okružiš zidovima.
02:43
It will dry up inside.
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Ono će se osušiti unutra.
02:45
Now we all live in some kind of a social and cultural circle.
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Trenutno svi živimo u društvenim i kulturalnim krugovima u nekom smislu.
02:48
We all do.
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Svi mi.
02:50
We're born into a certain family, nation, class.
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Rođeni smo u određenoj porodici, naciji ili klasi.
Ali ako nemamo nikakvog dodira
02:53
But if we have no connection whatsoever
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sa svijetom izvan našeg, koji uzimamo zdravo za gotovo,
02:56
with the worlds beyond the one we take for granted,
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02:58
then we too run the risk
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onda također postoji rizik
03:00
of drying up inside.
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da ćemo presušiti.
03:02
Our imagination might shrink;
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Naša imaginacija će se sasušiti,
03:04
our hearts might dwindle,
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srca će nam splasnuti,
03:06
and our humanness might wither
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i naša ljudskost može uvenuti,
03:08
if we stay for too long
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u našim kulturalnim čahurama.
03:10
inside our cultural cocoons.
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03:12
Our friends, neighbors, colleagues, family --
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Naši prijatelji, komšije, kolege, porodice -
ako bi svi ti ljudi unutar naših krugova bili slični nama
03:15
if all the people in our inner circle resemble us,
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03:17
it means we are surrounded
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to znači da smo okruženi
03:19
with our mirror image.
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slikom nas samih.
03:21
Now one other thing women like my grandma do in Turkey
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Još jedna stvar koju žene kao moja nana rade u Turskoj
je prekrivanje ogledala baršunom,
03:24
is to cover mirrors with velvet
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03:26
or to hang them on the walls with their backs facing out.
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ili vješanje ogledala na zidove tako da im se vidi poleđina.
03:29
It's an old Eastern tradition
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To je stara istočna tradicija
03:31
based on the knowledge that it's not healthy
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zasnovana na vjerovanjima da nije zdravo
03:33
for a human being to spend too much time
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za čovjeka da provodi previše vremena
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staring at his own reflection.
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gledajući u svoju refleksiju.
03:38
Ironically, [living in] communities of the like-minded
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Ironično, društva istomišljenika
03:41
is one of the greatest dangers
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su jedna od najvećih opasnosti
03:43
of today's globalized world.
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današnjeg društva.
03:45
And it's happening everywhere,
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I to se dešava svuda,
03:47
among liberals and conservatives,
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među liberalim i konzervativnim ljudima,
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agnostics and believers, the rich and the poor,
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agnosticima i vjernicima, bogatim i siromašnim,
03:51
East and West alike.
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na Istoku i Zapadu.
03:53
We tend to form clusters
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Težimo da stvorimo grupe
03:55
based on similarity,
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zasnovane na sličnostima,
i onda stvaramo stereotipe
03:57
and then we produce stereotypes
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o drugim grupama ljudi.
03:59
about other clusters of people.
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04:01
In my opinion, one way of transcending
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Po mom mišljenu, jedan od načina prevazilaženja
04:03
these cultural ghettos
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ovih kulturalnih geta
04:05
is through the art of storytelling.
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je kroz umjetnost pripovjedanja.
04:07
Stories cannot demolish frontiers,
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Priče ne mogu uništiti granice,
04:10
but they can punch holes in our mental walls.
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ali mogu probiti rupe u našim mentalnim zidovima.
04:13
And through those holes, we can get a glimpse of the other,
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I kroz te rupe možemo dobiti uvid u druge,
04:16
and sometimes even like what we see.
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i ponekad nam se može dopasti ono što vidimo.
04:19
I started writing fiction at the age of eight.
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Počela sam pisati fikciju kad mi je bilo osam godina.
04:22
My mother came home one day with a turquoise notebook
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Moja majka se vratila kući jedan dan
noseći tirkiznu svesku
i pitala me da li bih željela da vodim privatni dnevnik.
04:25
and asked me if I'd be interested in keeping a personal journal.
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04:28
In retrospect, I think she was slightly worried
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Gledajući iz ovog ugla
mislim da je bila blago zabrinuta
04:30
about my sanity.
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za moje mentalno zdravlje.
04:32
I was constantly telling stories at home, which was good,
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Stalno sam kod kuće pričala priče, što je bilo dobro,
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except I told this to imaginary friends around me,
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osim što sam ih pričala svojim imaginarnim prijateljima,
04:37
which was not so good.
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što nije bilo tako dobro.
04:39
I was an introverted child,
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Bila sam introvertno dijete,
04:41
to the point of communicating with colored crayons
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toliko da sam komunicirala sa bojicama
04:44
and apologizing to objects
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i izvinjavala se objektima,
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when I bumped into them,
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kad bi se sudarila s njima,
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so my mother thought it might do me good
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tako da je moja majka mislila da bi bilo dobro
04:50
to write down my day-to-day experiences
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da zapisujem svakodnevne doživljaje
04:52
and emotions.
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i emocije.
04:54
What she didn't know was that I thought my life was terribly boring,
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Ono što ona nije znala je da sam mislila da je moj život
04:57
and the last thing I wanted to do
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užasno dosadan
i zadnja stvar koju bih željela da radim
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was to write about myself.
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je da pišem o sebi.
05:01
Instead, I began to write about people other than me
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Umjesto toga, počela sam da pišem o drugim ljudima
i stvarima koje se nikada u stvari nisu desile.
05:04
and things that never really happened.
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05:06
And thus began my life-long passion
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I tako je započela moja doživotna strast
05:08
for writing fiction.
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za pisanjem fikcije.
05:10
So from the very beginning, fiction for me
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Od početka za mene je fikcija
bila manje autobiografska manifestacija
05:13
was less of an autobiographical manifestation
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nego što je bila transcedentalno putovanje
05:16
than a transcendental journey
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05:18
into other lives, other possibilities.
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u druge živote i mogućnosti.
05:20
And please bear with me:
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Molim vas budite strpljivi:
05:22
I'll draw a circle and come back to this point.
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sada ću napraviti krug i kasnije ću se vratiti na ovu priču.
05:25
Now one other thing happened around this same time.
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Druga stvar se desila u ovo vrijeme.
05:27
My mother became a diplomat.
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Moja majka je postala diplomata.
05:29
So from this small, superstitious,
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Iz malog, sujevjernog,
05:31
middle-class neighborhood of my grandmother,
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srednjoklasnog komšiluka,
došla sam
05:34
I was zoomed into this
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do otmjene internationalne škole u Madridu,
05:36
posh, international school [in Madrid],
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05:38
where I was the only Turk.
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gdje sam bila jedina Turkinja.
Tad sam se prvi put susrela
05:40
It was here that I had my first encounter
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sa onim što nazivam "strancem predstavnikom."
05:42
with what I call the "representative foreigner."
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05:45
In our classroom, there were children from all nationalities,
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U našem razredu je bilo djece svih nacionalnosti,
05:48
yet this diversity did not necessarily lead
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ali ipak ova različitost nije uvijek stvarala
05:51
to a cosmopolitan, egalitarian
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kozmopolitsku, egalitarnu i demokratsku atmosferu u razredu.
05:54
classroom democracy.
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05:56
Instead, it generated an atmosphere
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U biti, stvorilo je atmosferu u kojoj svako dijete
05:58
in which each child was seen --
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nije bilo posmartano kao individualac
06:00
not as an individual on his own,
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nego kao predstavnik nečeg većeg.
06:02
but as the representative of something larger.
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06:05
We were like a miniature United Nations, which was fun,
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Bili smo kao male Ujedinjene nacije, što je bilo zanimljivo,
06:08
except whenever something negative,
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sve dok se ne dogodi nešto negativno
06:10
with regards to a nation
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vezano za državu
06:12
or a religion, took place.
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ili religiju.
06:14
The child who represented it was mocked,
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Dijete kao predstavnik bi bilo ismijavano
06:17
ridiculed and bullied endlessly.
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i zlostavljano do beskraja.
06:20
And I should know, because during the time I attended that school,
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Znam kako je to, jer tokom vremena koje sam provela u toj školi,
06:23
a military takeover happened in my country,
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desio se vojni udar u mojoj državi
06:26
a gunman of my nationality nearly killed the Pope,
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i naoružani napadač moje nacionalnosti je pokušao ubiti Papu,
06:29
and Turkey got zero points in [the] Eurovision Song Contest.
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i Turska je dobila nula bodova na Evroviziji.
06:32
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
06:34
I skipped school often and dreamed of becoming a sailor
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Često nisam išla u školu, i sanjala bih da ću postati mornar
06:36
during those days.
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u tim danima.
06:38
I also had my first taste
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Također, tamo sam prvi put iskusila
06:40
of cultural stereotypes there.
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kulturalne stereotipe.
06:42
The other children asked me about the movie
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Druga djeca bi me pitala o filmu
06:44
"Midnight Express," which I had not seen;
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"Ponoćni ekspres", koji nisam ni pogledala.
06:46
they inquired how many cigarettes a day I smoked,
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Pitali bi me koliko cigareta dnevnom pušim
06:49
because they thought all Turks were heavy smokers,
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jer su mislili da su svi Turci strastveni pušači,
06:52
and they wondered at what age
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i zanimalo ih je s koliko godina
06:54
I would start covering my hair.
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ću početi pokrivati kosu.
06:56
I came to learn that these were
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Shvatila sam da su
ovo glavna tri stereotipa vezana za moju državu:
06:58
the three main stereotypes about my country:
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07:00
politics, cigarettes
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politika, cigarete,
07:02
and the veil.
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i marama.
07:04
After Spain, we went to Jordan, Germany
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Poslije Španije, preselili smo u Jordan, pa Njemačku
07:06
and Ankara again.
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i opet Ankaru.
07:08
Everywhere I went, I felt like
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Gdje god da sam bila, osjećala sam
07:10
my imagination was the only suitcase
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da mi je imaginacija jedini kofer
07:12
I could take with me.
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koji sam mogla ponijeti sa sobom.
07:14
Stories gave me a sense of center,
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Priče su mi pružile smisao za središte,
07:16
continuity and coherence,
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stalnost i dosljednost,
07:18
the three big Cs that I otherwise lacked.
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tri bitne stvari koje inače ne bih imala.
07:21
In my mid-twenties, I moved to Istanbul,
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Sredinom mojih dvadesetih
07:23
the city I adore.
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preselila sam se Istanbul
grad koji obožavam.
07:25
I lived in a very vibrant, diverse neighborhood
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Živjela sam u jako živahnom
i raznolikom naselju
07:28
where I wrote several of my novels.
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gdje sam napisala neke od svojih romana.
07:30
I was in Istanbul when the earthquake hit
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Bila sam u Istanbulu
kada se dogodio zemljotres
07:32
in 1999.
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1999.
07:34
When I ran out of the building at three in the morning,
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Kada sam istrčala iz zgrade u tri ujutru,
07:37
I saw something that stopped me in my tracks.
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vidjela sam nešto što me je šokiralo.
Vidjela sam lokalnog prodavca -
07:40
There was the local grocer there --
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mrzovoljni, stari čovjek koji nije htio prodavati alkohol
07:42
a grumpy, old man who didn't sell alcohol
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07:44
and didn't speak to marginals.
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i nije pričao s marginalcima.
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He was sitting next to a transvestite
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Sada je sjedio sa transvestitom
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with a long black wig
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sa dugom, crnom perikom
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and mascara running down her cheeks.
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i maskarom koja se slijevala po obrazima.
07:53
I watched the man open a pack of cigarettes
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Vidjela sam čovjeka kako otvara kutiju cigara
07:55
with trembling hands
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dok mu drhte ruke
07:57
and offer one to her,
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i nudi joj jednu,
07:59
and that is the image of the night of the earthquake
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i to je slika od noći kada se desio zemljotres
08:01
in my mind today --
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koju još uvijek imam glavi -
08:03
a conservative grocer and a crying transvestite
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konzervativni prodavač i rasplakani transvestit
08:06
smoking together on the sidewalk.
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puše zajedno na pločniku.
08:08
In the face of death and destruction,
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U trenutku smrti i razaranja
08:11
our mundane differences evaporated,
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jedna svakodnevna razlika je nestala,
08:13
and we all became one
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i svi smo postali ujedinjeni
08:15
even if for a few hours.
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barem na par sati.
08:17
But I've always believed that stories, too, have a similar effect on us.
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Ali također sam uvijek vjerovala da priče mogu imati sličan utjecaj na nas.
08:20
I'm not saying that fiction has the magnitude of an earthquake,
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Ne kažem da fikcija ima jačinu zemljotresa
08:23
but when we are reading a good novel,
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ali kada čitamo dobru novelu,
08:25
we leave our small, cozy apartments behind,
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ostavljamo mali, skučeni prostor iza nas,
08:28
go out into the night alone
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izlazimo sami u noć
i upoznajemo ljude kakve do tad nismo znali,
08:30
and start getting to know people we had never met before
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08:33
and perhaps had even been biased against.
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i prema kojima smo možda čak i stvarali predrasude.
08:36
Shortly after, I went
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Nedugo nakon toga otišla sam
08:38
to a women's college in Boston, then Michigan.
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na ženski koledž u Bostonu, a onda u Mičigen.
08:41
I experienced this, not so much as a geographical shift,
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Doživjela sam, ne toliko promjenu lokacije
08:44
as a linguistic one.
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kao lingvističku promjenu.
08:46
I started writing fiction in English.
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Počela sam pisati fikciju na engleskom.
08:48
I'm not an immigrant, refugee or exile --
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Nisam imigrant, izbjeglica ili prognanik -
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they ask me why I do this --
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pitaju me zašto ovo radim -
08:52
but the commute between languages
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ali smjena jezika
08:54
gives me the chance to recreate myself.
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mi je omogućila da se ponovo stvorim.
08:57
I love writing in Turkish,
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Volim pisati na turskom,
08:59
which to me is very poetic and very emotional,
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koji je za mene jako poetičan i emocionalan,
09:02
and I love writing in English, which to me
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i volim pisati na engleskom, koji je za mene
09:04
is very mathematical and cerebral.
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jako proračunat i cerebralan.
09:06
So I feel connected to each language in a different way.
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Tako da sam osjetila povezanost s oba jezika na različit način.
09:09
For me, like millions of other people
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Za mene, kao i za milione drugih ljudi
09:11
around the world today,
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širom svijeta,
09:13
English is an acquired language.
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engleski je prisvojen jezik.
09:15
When you're a latecomer to a language,
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Kada ga naučiš u kasnijoj dobi,
09:17
what happens is you live there
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desi se da živiš
sa stalnom
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with a continuous
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09:22
and perpetual frustration.
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frustracijom.
09:24
As latecomers, we always want to say more, you know,
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Uvijek želimo reći više,
09:26
crack better jokes, say better things,
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smisliti bolje šale, i reći bolje stvari
ali uvijek kažemo manje
09:29
but we end up saying less
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zato što imamo rupu u mislima i jeziku.
09:31
because there's a gap between the mind and the tongue.
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09:33
And that gap is very intimidating.
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I ta rupa je zastrašujuća.
09:36
But if we manage not to be frightened by it,
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Ali ako uspijemo da se ne preplašimo,
ona također može djelovati stimulirajuće
09:38
it's also stimulating.
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To sam otkrila u Bostonu -
09:40
And this is what I discovered in Boston --
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09:42
that frustration was very stimulating.
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frustracije su jako stimulirajuće.
09:45
At this stage, my grandmother,
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U to doba moja nana,
09:46
who had been watching the course of my life
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koja je promatrala tok mog života,
09:48
with increasing anxiety,
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sa rastućom anksioznošću,
09:50
started to include in her daily prayers
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počela je da se dnevno moli
09:52
that I urgently get married
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da se ubrzo udam
09:54
so that I could settle down once and for all.
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da bih se smirila jednom za uvijek.
09:57
And because God loves her, I did get married.
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I zbog toga što je Bog voli, ja sam se udala.
10:00
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
10:02
But instead of settling down,
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Ali umjesto da se smirim,
10:04
I went to Arizona.
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otišla sam u Arizonu.
10:06
And since my husband is in Istanbul,
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Pošto mi je muž u Istanbulu,
10:08
I started commuting between Arizona and Istanbul --
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počela sam putovati između Arizone i Istanbula -
10:11
the two places on the surface of earth
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dva mjesta na zemlji
10:13
that couldn't be more different.
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koja ne mogu biti više različita.
10:15
I guess one part of me has always been a nomad,
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Pretpostavljam da sam dijelom uvijek bila nomad,
10:18
physically and spiritually.
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fizički i spiritualno.
10:20
Stories accompany me,
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Priče mi prave društvo,
10:22
keeping my pieces and memories together,
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drže dijelove i sjećanja zajedno
10:24
like an existential glue.
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poput egzistencijalnog ljepila.
10:26
Yet as much as I love stories,
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Ipak koliko god voljela priče,
10:28
recently, I've also begun to think
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u skorije vrijeme sam počela razmišljati
kako gube svoju magiju
10:31
that they lose their magic
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ako se na priče počne gledati kao na nešto više nego priče.
10:33
if and when a story is seen as more than a story.
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10:36
And this is a subject that I would love
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I voljela bih da svi
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to think about together.
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razmislimo o ovome.
10:40
When my first novel written in English came out in America,
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Kada je moj prvi roman na engleskom izašla u Americi,
dobila sam zanimljivu primjedbu od jednog književnog kritičara.
10:43
I heard an interesting remark from a literary critic.
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rekao je
10:46
"I liked your book," he said, "but I wish you had written it differently."
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"Sviđa mi se tvoja knjiga, ali bih volio da si je napisala drugačije."
10:49
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
10:53
I asked him what he meant by that.
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Pitala sam ga kako to misli.
10:55
He said, "Well, look at it. There's so many
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Rekao je "Pa vidi, toliko je
Španaca, Amerikanaca, Latino Amerikanaca u knjizi,
10:57
Spanish, American, Hispanic characters in it,
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10:59
but there's only one Turkish character and it's a man."
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a samo jedan lik iz Turske
i on je muškarac."
11:02
Now the novel took place on a university campus in Boston,
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Radnja romana se dešava
na kampusu u Bostonu,
11:05
so to me, it was normal
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tako da mi je bilo normalno
11:07
that there be more international characters in it
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da će biti više internacionalnih likova
11:09
than Turkish characters,
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nego Turaka,
11:11
but I understood what my critic was looking for.
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ali sam razumjela šta je mislio sa kritikom.
11:13
And I also understood that I
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I razumjela sam da ću ga opet razočarati.
11:15
would keep disappointing him.
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11:17
He wanted to see the manifestation of my identity.
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On je želio da vidi ispoljavanje mog identiteta.
11:20
He was looking for a Turkish woman in the book
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Htio je da vidi Turkinju u knjizi,
11:23
because I happened to be one.
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kao što sam ja.
11:25
We often talk about how stories change the world,
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Često kažemo kako priče mogu promijeniti svijet,
11:28
but we should also see how the world of identity politics
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ali isto tako trebamo da vidimo kako svijet politike identiteta
11:31
affects the way stories
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utječe na način na koji priče
11:33
are being circulated,
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kruže,
11:35
read and reviewed.
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čitaju se i recenziraju.
11:37
Many authors feel this pressure,
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Puno pisaca osjeća pritisak,
11:39
but non-Western authors feel it more heavily.
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ali nezapadnjački pisci to osjete više.
11:42
If you're a woman writer from the Muslim world, like me,
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Ako ste književnica
iz muslimanskog svijeta kao ja,
11:45
then you are expected to write
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od vas se očekuje da pišete
11:47
the stories of Muslim women
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priče o muslimanskim ženama,
11:49
and, preferably, the unhappy stories
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i po mogućnosti, da to budu nesretne priče
11:51
of unhappy Muslim women.
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o nesretnim muslimankama.
11:53
You're expected to write
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Očekuje se da pišete
informativne, dirljive
11:55
informative, poignant and characteristic stories
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i karakteristične priče
11:58
and leave the experimental and avant-garde
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i ostavite eksperimentalne i avangardne
12:00
to your Western colleagues.
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vašim kolegama sa Zapada.
12:02
What I experienced as a child in that school in Madrid
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Ono što sam iskusila u školi u Madridu,
12:05
is happening in the literary world today.
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sada se dešava u književnosti.
12:08
Writers are not seen
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Pisci više ne predstavljaju
12:10
as creative individuals on their own,
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kreativne individualce,
12:12
but as the representatives
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nego ih se posmatra kao predstavnike
12:14
of their respective cultures:
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svojih kultura:
12:16
a few authors from China, a few from Turkey,
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nekoliko pisaca iz Kine, Turske,
Nigerije.
12:19
a few from Nigeria.
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12:21
We're all thought to have something very distinctive,
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Svi misle da mi imamo nešto različito,
12:23
if not peculiar.
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ako ne i čudno.
12:25
The writer and commuter James Baldwin
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Pisac i putnik, James Baldwin,
12:28
gave an interview in 1984
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dao je intervju u 1984,
12:30
in which he was repeatedly asked about his homosexuality.
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u kojem je više puta pitan o svojoj homoseksualnosti.
12:33
When the interviewer tried to pigeonhole him
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Kada ga je novinar pokušao smjestiti u koš
12:35
as a gay writer,
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sa drugim gay piscima
12:37
Baldwin stopped and said,
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Baldwin je odgovorio:
12:39
"But don't you see? There's nothing in me
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"Zar ne vidiš da u meni nema
12:41
that is not in everybody else,
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ništa drugačije nego u drugima,
12:43
and nothing in everybody else
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i ništa u drugima što nema u meni."
12:45
that is not in me."
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Kada politički identitet pokuša da nas etiketira,
12:47
When identity politics tries to put labels on us,
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12:50
it is our freedom of imagination that is in danger.
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naša sloboda imaginacije je u opasnosti.
12:53
There's a fuzzy category called
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Postoji jedna nejasna kategorija
12:55
multicultural literature
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zvana multikulturala kniževnost
12:57
in which all authors from outside the Western world
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u kojoj svi pisci izvan Zapada
12:59
are lumped together.
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ubačeni zajedno.
Nikad neću zaboraviti moje prvo iskustvo
13:01
I never forget my first multicultural reading,
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sa čitanjem multikulturalne književnosti
13:03
in Harvard Square about 10 years ago.
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na Harvard trgu pije desetak godina.
13:06
We were three writers, one from the Philippines,
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Bilo nas je troje, pisci sa Filipina,
13:09
one Turkish and one Indonesian --
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Turske i Indonezije -
13:11
like a joke, you know.
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kao u vicu, znate.
13:13
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
13:15
And the reason why we were brought together
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I razlog što su nas svrstali zajedno
13:17
was not because we shared an artistic style
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nije zato što smo dijelili umjetnički stil
13:19
or a literary taste.
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ili ukus u književnosti.
13:21
It was only because of our passports.
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To su uradili samo zbog naših pasoša.
13:23
Multicultural writers are expected to tell real stories,
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Očekuje se da multikulturalni pisci
pričaju istinite priče
13:26
not so much the imaginary.
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i da ne koriste previše imaginacije.
13:28
A function is attributed to fiction.
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Fikciji je dodijeljena funkcija.
13:31
In this way, not only the writers themselves,
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Na ovaj način
ne samo pisci
13:33
but also their fictional characters
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nego i njihovi likovi,
13:36
become the representatives of something larger.
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postaju reprezentativci nečeg većeg.
13:39
But I must quickly add
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I moram brzo da dodam
13:41
that this tendency to see a story
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da ova tendencija da se priča sagleda
13:43
as more than a story
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kao više nego priča
13:45
does not solely come from the West.
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nije prisutna samo na Zapadu.
13:47
It comes from everywhere.
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Prisutna je svugdje.
13:49
And I experienced this firsthand
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Ovo sam osjetila iz prve ruke
kada sam bila na suđenju 2005.
13:51
when I was put on trial in 2005
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zbog riječi koje je lik iz mog romana rekao.
13:54
for the words my fictional characters uttered in a novel.
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Željela sam da napišem
13:57
I had intended to write
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13:59
a constructive, multi-layered novel
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konstruktivni, višeslojni roman
14:02
about an Armenian and a Turkish family
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o armenskoj i turskoj porodici
14:04
through the eyes of women.
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kroz oči žena.
14:06
My micro story became a macro issue
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Moja mala priča je postala veliki problem
14:09
when I was prosecuted.
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kada sam optužena.
14:11
Some people criticized, others praised me
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Neki su me kritikovali, drugi hvalili
14:13
for writing about the Turkish-Armenian conflict.
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zbog toga što sam pisala o tursko-armenskom sukobu.
14:16
But there were times when I wanted to remind both sides
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Ali htjela sam podsjetiti obje strane
14:19
that this was fiction.
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da je ovo samo fikcija.
14:21
It was just a story.
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To je bila samo priča.
14:23
And when I say, "just a story,"
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Kada kažem "samo priča"
14:25
I'm not trying to belittle my work.
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ne želim da obezvrijedim svoj rad.
14:27
I want to love and celebrate fiction
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Želim da volim i slavim fikciju
14:29
for what it is,
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zbog onoga što ona jeste,
14:31
not as a means to an end.
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a ne kao sredstvo za neki cilj.
14:33
Writers are entitled to their political opinions,
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Pisci imaju pravo na svoje političke stavove,
14:35
and there are good political novels out there,
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i ima jako puno dobrih političkih romana,
14:38
but the language of fiction
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ali jezik fikcije
14:40
is not the language of daily politics.
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nije isti kao jezik svakodnevne politike.
14:42
Chekhov said,
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Chekhov je rekao:
14:44
"The solution to a problem
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"Rješenje za problem
14:46
and the correct way of posing the question
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i ispravan način postavljanja pitanja
14:48
are two completely separate things.
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su dvije potpuno različite stvari.
14:51
And only the latter is an artist's responsibility."
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I umjetnikova dužnost je samo ova druga."
14:55
Identity politics divides us. Fiction connects.
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Politički identitet na razdvaja. Fikcija spaja.
14:58
One is interested in sweeping generalizations.
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Jednu interesuju generalizacije,
15:01
The other, in nuances.
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drugu nijanse.
15:03
One draws boundaries.
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Jedna pravi zidove.
15:05
The other recognizes no frontiers.
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Druga ne poznaje granice.
15:07
Identity politics is made of solid bricks.
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Politički identitet je napravljen od čvrstih cigli.
15:10
Fiction is flowing water.
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Fikcija je tekuća voda.
U vijeme Osmanlija, postojali su putnici pripovjedači zvani "meddah."
15:13
In the Ottoman times, there were itinerant storytellers called "meddah."
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15:16
They would go to coffee houses,
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Išli bi u kafane,
15:18
where they would tell a story in front of an audience,
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gdje bi pričali priče pred publikom,
15:20
often improvising.
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često imporovizirajući.
15:22
With each new person in the story,
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Za svaku osobu u priči,
15:24
the meddah would change his voice,
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meddah bi promjenio svoj glas,
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impersonating that character.
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oponašajući tog lika.
15:28
Everybody could go and listen, you know --
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Svi bi mogli ići i slušati -
obični ljudi, ili čak sultani, muslimani i nemuslimani.
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ordinary people, even the sultan, Muslims and non-Muslims.
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15:33
Stories cut across all boundaries,
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Priče prodiru kroz sve granice,
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like "The Tales of Nasreddin Hodja,"
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kao priče o Nasretin Hodži,
15:38
which were very popular throughout the Middle East,
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koje su bile jako popularne na Srednjem istoku,
15:40
North Africa, the Balkans and Asia.
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Sjevernoj Africi, Balkanu i Aziji.
15:43
Today, stories continue
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U današnje vrijeme, priče
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to transcend borders.
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i dalje prevazilaze granice.
15:47
When Palestinian and Israeli politicians talk,
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Kada palestinski i izraelski poilitičari govore,
obično ni ne slušaju jedni druge,
15:50
they usually don't listen to each other,
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ali Palestinci
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but a Palestinian reader
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još uvijek čitaju romane izraelskih autora,
15:54
still reads a novel by a Jewish author,
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15:56
and vice versa, connecting and empathizing
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i obrnuto, spajajući i suosjećajući
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with the narrator.
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sa naratorom.
16:01
Literature has to take us beyond.
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Književnost nas uzdiže.
16:03
If it cannot take us there,
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Ako to ne uspijeva,
16:05
it is not good literature.
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onda to nije dobra književnost.
16:07
Books have saved the introverted,
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Knjige su spasile introvertno,
16:09
timid child that I was -- that I once was.
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stidljivo djete koje sam ja nekad bila.
16:12
But I'm also aware of the danger
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Ali sam također svjesna opasnosti
16:14
of fetishizing them.
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stvaranja fetiša prema knjigama.
16:16
When the poet and mystic, Rumi,
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Kada je Rumi, pisac i mistik,
16:18
met his spiritual companion, Shams of Tabriz,
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upoznao svog duhovnog prijatelja, Šemsa iz Tabriza,
16:21
one of the first things the latter did
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jedna stvar koju je kasnije uradio,
16:23
was to toss Rumi's books into water
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bacio je Rumijeve knjige u vodu
16:25
and watch the letters dissolve.
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i gledao kako se slova rastapaju.
16:27
The Sufis say, "Knowledge that takes you not beyond yourself
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Sufije kažu: "Znanje koje vas ne uzdiže
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is far worse than ignorance."
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je gore nego neznanje."
Problem s današnjim kulturalnim getima
16:34
The problem with today's cultural ghettos
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16:36
is not lack of knowledge --
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nije manjak znanja -
mi znamo puno jedni o drugima, ili tako mislimo -
16:38
we know a lot about each other, or so we think --
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16:41
but knowledge that takes us not beyond ourselves:
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ali znanje koje nas ne uzdiže
16:44
it makes us elitist,
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stvara od nas elitiste,
16:46
distant and disconnected.
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distancirane i isključene.
16:48
There's a metaphor which I love:
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Volim ovu metaforu:
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living like a drawing compass.
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živjeti poput šestara.
16:52
As you know, one leg of the compass is static, rooted in a place.
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Kao što znate, jedna strana šestara je statična, ukorjenjena u mjestu,
16:55
Meanwhile, the other leg
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dok druga strana
16:57
draws a wide circle, constantly moving.
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pravi krug, stalno se pomjerajući.
16:59
Like that, my fiction as well.
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Isto kao moja fikcija.
17:01
One part of it is rooted in Istanbul,
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Jedna strana je ukorjenjena u Istanbulu,
17:03
with strong Turkish roots,
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sa snažnim turskim korjenima,
17:06
but the other part travels the world,
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ali druga strana putuje svjetom,
17:08
connecting to different cultures.
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spaja se s drugim kulturama.
17:10
In that sense, I like to think of my fiction
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U tom smislu, volim misliti o svojoj fikciji
17:12
as both local and universal,
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kao lokalnoj i univerzanloj,
17:15
both from here and everywhere.
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kao odavde i bilo gjde drugo.
17:17
Now those of you who have been to Istanbul
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Vi koji ste bili u Istanbulu
17:19
have probably seen Topkapi Palace,
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vjerovatno ste vidjeli Topkapi Saraj,
17:21
which was the residence of Ottoman sultans
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u kojoj su živjeli osmanski sultani
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for more than 400 years.
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preko 400 godina.
17:26
In the palace, just outside the quarters
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U toj palači, odmah uz prostorije
17:28
of the favorite concubines,
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njihovih najdražih konkubina,
17:30
there's an area called The Gathering Place of the Djinn.
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postoji mjesto zvano Mjesto gdje se sastaju Džini.
Ono je između građevina.
17:33
It's between buildings.
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Intrigirana sam ovim konceptom.
17:35
I'm intrigued by this concept.
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Obično ne vjerujemo ovim mjestima
17:37
We usually distrust those areas
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17:39
that fall in between things.
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koja se nalaze među drugim stvarima.
17:41
We see them as the domain
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Smatramo ih područjima
gdje se nalaze nadnaravna bića kao što su džini.
17:43
of supernatural creatures like the djinn,
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17:45
who are made of smokeless fire
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Oni se sastoje od vatre bez dima,
17:47
and are the symbol of elusiveness.
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i simbol su nedokučivosti.
17:49
But my point is perhaps
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Ali moja poenta je
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that elusive space
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da nedokučivo mjesto
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is what writers and artists need most.
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je ono što pisci i umjetnici najviše trebaju.
17:56
When I write fiction
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Kada pišem fikciju
ja gajim nedokučivost i promjenljivost.
17:58
I cherish elusiveness and changeability.
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18:00
I like not knowing what will happen 10 pages later.
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Volim da ne znam šta će se desiti nakon deset stranica.
18:03
I like it when my characters surprise me.
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Volim kada me moji likovi iznenade.
18:05
I might write about
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Možda ću da pišem
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a Muslim woman in one novel,
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u jednom romanu o ženi muslimanki,
18:09
and perhaps it will be a very happy story,
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i to će vjerovatno biti sretna priča,
18:11
and in my next book, I might write
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i u sljedećoj knjizi možda ću pisati
18:13
about a handsome, gay professor in Norway.
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o zgodnom gay profesoru u Norveškoj.
Dok god dolazi od srca,
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As long as it comes from our hearts,
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možemo da pišemo o bilo čemu.
18:18
we can write about anything and everything.
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18:21
Audre Lorde once said,
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Audre Lorde je jednom rekla:
18:23
"The white fathers taught us to say,
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"Bijeli očevi su nas naučili da kažemo,
'Mislim, dakle postojim.'"
18:26
'I think, therefore I am.'"
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Ona dodaje: "Osjećam, dakle slobodna sam."
18:28
She suggested, "I feel, therefore I am free."
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18:31
I think it was a wonderful paradigm shift.
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Mislim da je ovo divna promjena paradigme.
18:34
And yet, why is it that,
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I ipak, zašto
u današnje vrijeme na kursevima kreativnog pisanja
18:36
in creative writing courses today,
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18:38
the very first thing we teach students is
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prva stvar koju nas nauče je
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"write what you know"?
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"pišite o onome što znate"?
18:42
Perhaps that's not the right way to start at all.
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To nije dobar način da se počne.
18:45
Imaginative literature is not necessarily about
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Književnost nije obavezno
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writing who we are or what we know
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pisanje o nama ili onome što znamo
18:51
or what our identity is about.
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ili predstavljanje našeg dentiteta.
18:54
We should teach young people and ourselves
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Trebamo učiti mlade ljude da i nas same
18:56
to expand our hearts
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da proširujemo naša srca
i pišemo o onome kako se osjećamo.
18:58
and write what we can feel.
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19:00
We should get out of our cultural ghetto
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Trebamo izaći iz svog kulturalnog geta
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and go visit the next one and the next.
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i posjetiti druga.
19:05
In the end, stories move like whirling dervishes,
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Na kraju, priče su kao derviši koji plešu,
19:08
drawing circles beyond circles.
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prave krugove izvan krugova.
19:11
They connect all humanity,
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Oni spajaju humanost,
bez obzira na politički identitet,
19:13
regardless of identity politics,
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i to je dobra stvar.
19:15
and that is the good news.
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Željela bih da završim sa starom sufijskom pjesmom:
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And I would like to finish with an old Sufi poem:
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19:19
"Come, let us be friends for once;
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"Dođi, budimo prijatelji na trenutak
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let us make life easy on us;
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olakšajmo živote jedni drugom
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let us be lovers and loved ones;
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budimo ljubavnici i voljeni
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the earth shall be left to no one."
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zemlja neće ostati nikome."
19:29
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
19:31
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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