The politics of fiction | Elif Shafak

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Prevoditelj: Ana Mikacic Recezent: Nenad Maljković
00:15
I'm a storyteller.
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Ja sam pripovjedačica.
00:17
That's what I do in life -- telling stories,
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Time se bavim u životu - pričam priče,
00:19
writing novels --
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pišem romane.
00:21
and today I would like to tell you a few stories
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Danas bih vam željela ispričati nekoliko priča
00:23
about the art of storytelling
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o umjetnosti pripovijedanja
00:25
and also some supernatural creatures
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i o nekim nadnaravnim bićima
00:27
called the djinni.
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koji se zovu džini.
00:29
But before I go there, please allow me to share with you
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Ali, prije nego počnem, dopustite mi da s vama podijelim
00:32
glimpses of my personal story.
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dijeliće moje osobne životne priče.
00:34
I will do so with the help of words, of course,
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To ću, naravno, učiniti uz pomoć riječi,
00:37
but also a geometrical shape, the circle,
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ali i uz pomoć jednog geometrijskog oblika, kruga.
00:40
so throughout my talk,
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Dakle, tijekom mog izlaganja
00:42
you will come across several circles.
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naići ćete na nekoliko krugova.
00:45
I was born in Strasbourg, France
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Rođena sam u Strasbourgu, u Francuskoj
00:48
to Turkish parents.
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od turskih roditelja.
00:50
Shortly after, my parents got separated,
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Moji se roditelji ubrzo razvode
00:52
and I came to Turkey with my mom.
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i ja s majkom odlazim u Tursku.
00:54
From then on, I was raised
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Od tada me kao jedinicu
00:56
as a single child by a single mother.
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odgaja samohrana majka.
00:58
Now in the early 1970s, in Ankara,
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To je, međutim, u Ankari početkom 70-ih
01:00
that was a bit unusual.
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bilo pomalo neuobičajeno.
01:02
Our neighborhood was full of large families,
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U našem susjedstvu bilo je puno velikih obitelji,
01:04
where fathers were the heads of households,
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u kojima su na čelu domaćinstva bili očevi.
01:07
so I grew up seeing my mother as a divorcee
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Rasla sam, dakle, promatrajući svoju razvedenu majku
01:10
in a patriarchal environment.
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u patrijarhalnoj sredini.
01:12
In fact, I grew up observing
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Ustvari, rasla sam promatrajući
01:14
two different kinds of womanhood.
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dvije različite vrste žena.
01:16
On the one hand was my mother,
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S jedne strane, moja majka,
01:18
a well-educated, secular, modern, westernized, Turkish woman.
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obrazovana, svjetovna, moderna, pozapadnjačena Turkinja.
01:21
On the other hand was my grandmother,
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S druge strane, moja baka,
01:23
who also took care of me
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koja se također brinula o meni
01:25
and was more spiritual, less educated
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i koja je bila duhovnija, manje obrazovana
01:28
and definitely less rational.
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i zasigurno manje racionalna.
01:30
This was a woman who read coffee grounds to see the future
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To je bila žena koja je iz taloga kave predviđala budućnost
01:33
and melted lead into mysterious shapes
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i talila olovo u tajnovite oblike
01:35
to fend off the evil eye.
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kako bi rastjerala uroke.
01:38
Many people visited my grandmother,
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Mnogi su posjećivali moju baku,
01:40
people with severe acne on their faces
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ljudi s gadnim aknama na licu
01:42
or warts on their hands.
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ili s bradavicama na rukama.
01:45
Each time, my grandmother would utter some words in Arabic,
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Baka bi izgovarala riječi na arapskom,
01:48
take a red apple and stab it
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uzela bi crvenu jabuku i u nju zabadala
01:50
with as many rose thorns
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onoliko ružinih trnova
01:52
as the number of warts she wanted to remove.
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koliko je bradavica htjela ukloniti.
01:55
Then one by one, she would
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Tada bi jedan po jedan trn
01:57
encircle these thorns with dark ink.
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ocrtala crnom tintom.
02:00
A week later, the patient would come back
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Tjedan dana nakon toga, pacijent bi se vratio
02:02
for a follow-up examination.
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na kontrolni pregled.
02:04
Now, I'm aware that I should not be saying such things
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Svjesna sam da ne bih trebala ovo govoriti
02:07
in front of an audience of scholars and scientists,
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pred publikom u kojoj sjede učenjaci i znanstvenici,
02:10
but the truth is, of all the people
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ali istina je da od onih
02:12
who visited my grandmother for their skin conditions,
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koji su mojoj baki dolazili zbog problema s kožom
02:15
I did not see anyone go back
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nikoga nisam vidjela da odlazi
02:17
unhappy or unhealed.
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nesretan ili neizliječen.
02:20
I asked her how she did this. Was it the power of praying?
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Pitala sam je kako to čini. Radi li se o snazi molitve?
02:23
In response she said, "Yes, praying is effective,
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Odgovorila mi je, "Da, molitva pomaže.
02:26
but also beware of the power of circles."
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Ali, budi svjesna i snage krugova".
02:29
From her, I learned, amongst many other things,
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Od nje sam dobila, uz puno toga drugoga,
02:32
one very precious lesson --
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jednu jako dragocjenu poduku.
02:34
that if you want to destroy something in this life,
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A ta je - ako želiš nešto na ovom svijetu uništiti,
02:36
be it an acne, a blemish
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bile to akne, mrlje
02:38
or the human soul,
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ili ljudska duša,
02:40
all you need to do is to surround it with thick walls.
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dovoljno je da je opkoliš debelim zidovima.
02:43
It will dry up inside.
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Unutar njih će se sasušiti.
02:45
Now we all live in some kind of a social and cultural circle.
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Svi mi živimo u nekoj vrsti društvenog ili kulturnog kruga.
02:48
We all do.
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Svatko od nas.
02:50
We're born into a certain family, nation, class.
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Rođeni smo unutar jedne obitelji, naroda, klase.
02:53
But if we have no connection whatsoever
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Ali, ukoliko nismo povezani
02:56
with the worlds beyond the one we take for granted,
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sa svjetovima izvan onog kojeg uzimamo zdravo za gotovo,
02:58
then we too run the risk
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tada i mi riskiramo
03:00
of drying up inside.
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da se unutar tog kruga sasušimo.
03:02
Our imagination might shrink;
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Naša mašta se može stisnuti.
03:04
our hearts might dwindle,
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Naša se srca mogu smanjiti.
03:06
and our humanness might wither
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A naša čovječnost može uvenuti
03:08
if we stay for too long
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ako predugo ostanemo
03:10
inside our cultural cocoons.
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unutar vlastitih kulturnih čahura.
03:12
Our friends, neighbors, colleagues, family --
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Naši prijatelji, susjedi, kolege, obitelj --
03:15
if all the people in our inner circle resemble us,
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ako nam svi ljudi u našem unutarnjem krugu nalikuju,
03:17
it means we are surrounded
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to znači da smo okruženi
03:19
with our mirror image.
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svojim odrazima u zrcalu.
03:21
Now one other thing women like my grandma do in Turkey
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Još nešto što žene poput moje bake u Turskoj rade
03:24
is to cover mirrors with velvet
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je prekrivanje ogledala baršunom
03:26
or to hang them on the walls with their backs facing out.
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ili vješaju ogledala na zid tako da su okrenuta prema zidu.
03:29
It's an old Eastern tradition
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To je drevna istočnjačka tradicija
03:31
based on the knowledge that it's not healthy
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koja se temelji na vjerovanju da za ljudsko biće
03:33
for a human being to spend too much time
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nije zdravo previše vremena provoditi
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staring at his own reflection.
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buljeći u vlastiti odraz.
03:38
Ironically, [living in] communities of the like-minded
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Ironično, zajednice istomišljenika
03:41
is one of the greatest dangers
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jedna su od najvećih opasnosti
03:43
of today's globalized world.
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današnjeg globaliziranog svijeta.
03:45
And it's happening everywhere,
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A to se događa svugdje,
03:47
among liberals and conservatives,
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među liberalima i konzervativcima,
03:49
agnostics and believers, the rich and the poor,
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agnosticima i vjernicima, bogatima i siromašnima,
03:51
East and West alike.
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na Istoku, i na Zapadu.
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We tend to form clusters
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Težimo okupljanju u skupine
03:55
based on similarity,
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na temelju sličnosti,
03:57
and then we produce stereotypes
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a potom stvaramo stereotipe
03:59
about other clusters of people.
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o drugim skupinama ljudi.
04:01
In my opinion, one way of transcending
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Smatram da je jedan od puteva nadilaženja
04:03
these cultural ghettos
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ovih kulturoloških getoa
04:05
is through the art of storytelling.
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vodi kroz umjetnost pripovijedanja.
04:07
Stories cannot demolish frontiers,
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Priče ne mogu uništiti granice,
04:10
but they can punch holes in our mental walls.
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ali mogu probijati otvore u našim mentalnim zidovima.
04:13
And through those holes, we can get a glimpse of the other,
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A kroz te otvore možemo opaziti nešto drugo,
04:16
and sometimes even like what we see.
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nešto što nam se možda i svidi.
04:19
I started writing fiction at the age of eight.
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Počela sam pisati priče s osam godina.
04:22
My mother came home one day with a turquoise notebook
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Majka je jednog dana došla kući s tirkiznom bilježnicom
04:25
and asked me if I'd be interested in keeping a personal journal.
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i pitala me bih li željela voditi dnevnik.
04:28
In retrospect, I think she was slightly worried
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Danas mislim da je bila pomalo zabrinuta
04:30
about my sanity.
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za moje mentalno zdravlje.
04:32
I was constantly telling stories at home, which was good,
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Kod kuće sam neprestano pričala priče, što je bilo dobro,
04:35
except I told this to imaginary friends around me,
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jedino što sam ih pričala izmišljenim prijateljima oko sebe,
04:37
which was not so good.
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što i nije bilo tako dobro.
04:39
I was an introverted child,
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Bila sam introvertirano dijete
04:41
to the point of communicating with colored crayons
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do te mjere da sam razgovarala s bojicama
04:44
and apologizing to objects
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i ispričavala se predmetima
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when I bumped into them,
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ako bih u njih udarila.
04:48
so my mother thought it might do me good
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Moja je majka smatrala da bi za mene bilo dobro
04:50
to write down my day-to-day experiences
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da svoja svakidašnja iskustva
04:52
and emotions.
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i osjećaje zapisujem.
04:54
What she didn't know was that I thought my life was terribly boring,
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Ono što ona nije znala jest da se meni moj život činio užasno dosadnim,
04:57
and the last thing I wanted to do
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i da je zadnje što sam željela raditi
04:59
was to write about myself.
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bilo pisati o sebi.
05:01
Instead, I began to write about people other than me
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Umjesto toga, počela sam pisati o drugim ljudima
05:04
and things that never really happened.
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i stvarima koje se nikada nisu dogodile.
05:06
And thus began my life-long passion
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Tako je započela moja dugogodišnja strast
05:08
for writing fiction.
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prema pisanju priča.
05:10
So from the very beginning, fiction for me
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Od samog početka, fikcija je za mene
05:13
was less of an autobiographical manifestation
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bila ne toliko autobiografski izraz
05:16
than a transcendental journey
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koliko transcedentalno putovanje
05:18
into other lives, other possibilities.
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u druge živote, druge mogućnosti.
05:20
And please bear with me:
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Molim vas, pratite me.
05:22
I'll draw a circle and come back to this point.
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Nacrtat ću jedan krug i vratiti se na ovo.
05:25
Now one other thing happened around this same time.
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Otprilike u isto vrijeme dogodilo se još nešto.
05:27
My mother became a diplomat.
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Moja je majka postala diplomatkinja.
05:29
So from this small, superstitious,
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I tako sam iz tog malog, praznovjernog,
05:31
middle-class neighborhood of my grandmother,
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bakinog susjedstva ljudi srednje klase,
05:34
I was zoomed into this
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prebačena u jednu
05:36
posh, international school [in Madrid],
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otmjenu, međunarodnu školu [u Madridu],
05:38
where I was the only Turk.
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gdje sam bila jedina Turkinja.
05:40
It was here that I had my first encounter
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Upravo tu sam se po prvi put susrela
05:42
with what I call the "representative foreigner."
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s onim što nazivam "reprezentativni stranac".
05:45
In our classroom, there were children from all nationalities,
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U našem razredu bilo je djece svih nacionalnosti.
05:48
yet this diversity did not necessarily lead
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Pa ipak, ta različitost nije nužno vodila
05:51
to a cosmopolitan, egalitarian
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u kozmopolitsku, egalitarnu
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classroom democracy.
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razrednu demokraciju.
05:56
Instead, it generated an atmosphere
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Umjesto toga, stvarala je atmosferu
05:58
in which each child was seen --
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u kojoj je svako dijete bilo viđeno,
06:00
not as an individual on his own,
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ne kao zasebna individua,
06:02
but as the representative of something larger.
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već kao predstavnik nečeg većeg.
06:05
We were like a miniature United Nations, which was fun,
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Bili smo poput minijaturnih Ujedinjenih naroda, što je bilo zabavno,
06:08
except whenever something negative,
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osim kada bi se nešto negativno
06:10
with regards to a nation
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dogodilo u vezi s nekom
06:12
or a religion, took place.
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državom ili vjerom.
06:14
The child who represented it was mocked,
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Dijete koje ih je predstavljalo bilo je zadirkivano,
06:17
ridiculed and bullied endlessly.
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ismijavano i beskrajno maltretirano.
06:20
And I should know, because during the time I attended that school,
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Ja to znam, jer se, dok sam bila u toj školi,
06:23
a military takeover happened in my country,
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u mojoj zemlji dogodio vojni udar,
06:26
a gunman of my nationality nearly killed the Pope,
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atentator moje nacionalnosti umalo je ubio Papu,
06:29
and Turkey got zero points in [the] Eurovision Song Contest.
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a Turska je dobila nula bodova na natjecanju za pjesmu Eurovizije.
06:32
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
06:34
I skipped school often and dreamed of becoming a sailor
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Tih sam dana često izostajala iz škole
06:36
during those days.
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i sanjarila da postajem mornar.
06:38
I also had my first taste
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Također sam po prvi puta
06:40
of cultural stereotypes there.
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imala iskustvo kulturnih stereotipa.
06:42
The other children asked me about the movie
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Djeca su me zapitkivala o filmu
06:44
"Midnight Express," which I had not seen;
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"Ponoćni ekspres", kojeg nisam bila gledala.
06:46
they inquired how many cigarettes a day I smoked,
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Pitali su me koliko cigareta dnevno pušim,
06:49
because they thought all Turks were heavy smokers,
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jer su mislili da su svi Turci teški pušači.
06:52
and they wondered at what age
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I htjeli su znati s koliko ću godina
06:54
I would start covering my hair.
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početi pokrivati kosu.
06:56
I came to learn that these were
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Naučila sam da su to
06:58
the three main stereotypes about my country:
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tri glavna stereotipa o mojoj zemlji,
07:00
politics, cigarettes
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politika, cigarete
07:02
and the veil.
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i marame.
07:04
After Spain, we went to Jordan, Germany
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Nakon Španjolske išli smo u Jordan, pa Njemačku
07:06
and Ankara again.
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i ponovo u Ankaru.
07:08
Everywhere I went, I felt like
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Kamo god sam išla, činilo mi se
07:10
my imagination was the only suitcase
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da je moja mašta jedini kovčeg
07:12
I could take with me.
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koji sa sobom mogu ponijeti.
07:14
Stories gave me a sense of center,
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Priče su mi davale smisao središta,
07:16
continuity and coherence,
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stalnosti i suvislosti,
07:18
the three big Cs that I otherwise lacked.
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tri velika S koja inače ne bih imala.
07:21
In my mid-twenties, I moved to Istanbul,
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U mojim srednjim dvadesetima, preselila sam se u Istanbul,
07:23
the city I adore.
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grad koji obožavam.
07:25
I lived in a very vibrant, diverse neighborhood
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Živjela sam u jako živahnom, šarolikom susjedstvu
07:28
where I wrote several of my novels.
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gdje sam napisala nekoliko romana.
07:30
I was in Istanbul when the earthquake hit
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Bila sam u Istanbulu kad ga je
07:32
in 1999.
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1999. pogodio potres.
07:34
When I ran out of the building at three in the morning,
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Kada sam u tri sata ujutro istrčala iz zgrade,
07:37
I saw something that stopped me in my tracks.
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ugledala sam nešto što me prikovalo na mjestu.
07:40
There was the local grocer there --
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Trgovac iz dućana mješovite robe,
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a grumpy, old man who didn't sell alcohol
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mrzovoljni starac koji nije prodavao alkohol
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and didn't speak to marginals.
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niti razgovarao s ljudima s ruba,
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He was sitting next to a transvestite
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sjedio je pored transvestita
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with a long black wig
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s dugom crnom perikom
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and mascara running down her cheeks.
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i maskarom razlivenom niz obraze.
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I watched the man open a pack of cigarettes
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Gledala sam čovjeka kako drhtavim rukama
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with trembling hands
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otvara kutiju cigareta
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and offer one to her,
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i jednu nudi njoj.
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and that is the image of the night of the earthquake
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To je slika noći potresa
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in my mind today --
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koju i danas imam u glavi --
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a conservative grocer and a crying transvestite
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konzervativni prodavač i uplakani transvestit
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smoking together on the sidewalk.
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kako zajedno puše na pločniku.
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In the face of death and destruction,
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Pred smrću i razaranjem,
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our mundane differences evaporated,
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naše su se svjetovne razlike izbrisale,
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and we all became one
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i postali smo jedno
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even if for a few hours.
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makar i na nekoliko sati.
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But I've always believed that stories, too, have a similar effect on us.
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Oduvijek sam vjerovala da priče imaju slično djelovanje.
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I'm not saying that fiction has the magnitude of an earthquake,
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Ne kažem da fikcija ima značaj jednog potresa.
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but when we are reading a good novel,
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Ali, kada čitamo dobar roman,
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we leave our small, cozy apartments behind,
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napuštamo svoje male, udobne stanove,
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go out into the night alone
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odlazimo sami u noć
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and start getting to know people we had never met before
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i počinjemo upoznavati ljude koje nikada prije nismo sreli
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and perhaps had even been biased against.
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i prema kojima smo čak možda gajili i predrasude.
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Shortly after, I went
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Nedugo nakon toga otišla sam
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to a women's college in Boston, then Michigan.
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u ženski koledž u Boston, pa u Michigan.
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I experienced this, not so much as a geographical shift,
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To nisam toliko iskusila kao geografski pomak,
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as a linguistic one.
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koliko kao lingvistički.
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I started writing fiction in English.
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Počela sam pisati romane na engleskom.
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I'm not an immigrant, refugee or exile --
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Nisam imigrantica, izbjeglica ni prognanica.
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they ask me why I do this --
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Pitaju me zašto onda to činim.
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but the commute between languages
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Kretanje između dvaju jezika
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gives me the chance to recreate myself.
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pruža mi priliku da i sebe preoblikujem.
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I love writing in Turkish,
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Volim pisati na turskom,
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which to me is very poetic and very emotional,
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za mene je to jako poetičan i osjećajan jezik.
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and I love writing in English, which to me
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A volim pisati i na engleskom, koji mi je
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is very mathematical and cerebral.
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jako matematičan i intelektualan.
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So I feel connected to each language in a different way.
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Tako da sa svakim jezikom osjećam različitu povezanost.
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For me, like millions of other people
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Za mene, kao i za milijune drugih ljudi
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around the world today,
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širom današnjeg svijeta,
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English is an acquired language.
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engleski je drugi jezik.
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When you're a latecomer to a language,
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Kada si u nekom jeziku pridošlica,
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what happens is you live there
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događa se da tu živiš
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with a continuous
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sa stalnom i
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and perpetual frustration.
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i vječitom frustracijom.
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As latecomers, we always want to say more, you know,
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Kao pridošlice, uvijek želimo reći nešto više,
09:26
crack better jokes, say better things,
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ispaliti bolju šalu, kazivati bolje stvari.
09:29
but we end up saying less
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Međutim, uvijek na koncu kažemo manje
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because there's a gap between the mind and the tongue.
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zbog jaza između uma i govora.
09:33
And that gap is very intimidating.
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A taj je jaz vrlo nelagodan.
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But if we manage not to be frightened by it,
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Ali, ako uspijemo da nas to ne zastraši,
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it's also stimulating.
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to može biti i poticaj.
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And this is what I discovered in Boston --
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Upravo sam to otkrila u Bostonu --
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that frustration was very stimulating.
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da je frustracija jako poticajna.
09:45
At this stage, my grandmother,
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U to je doba moja baka,
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who had been watching the course of my life
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koja je pratila tijek mog života
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with increasing anxiety,
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sa sve većom zabrinutošću,
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started to include in her daily prayers
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u svoje dnevne molitve uključila
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that I urgently get married
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i molitve da se što prije udam
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so that I could settle down once and for all.
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kako bih se konačno i zauvijek smirila.
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And because God loves her, I did get married.
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A kako je Bog voli, ja sam se zaista i udala.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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But instead of settling down,
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Ali, umjesto da se smirim,
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I went to Arizona.
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ja sam otišla u Arizonu.
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And since my husband is in Istanbul,
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A kako je moj suprug u Istanbulu,
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I started commuting between Arizona and Istanbul --
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počela sam putovati između Arizone i Istanbula.
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the two places on the surface of earth
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Dva mjesta na zemlji
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that couldn't be more different.
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koja ne mogu biti različitija nego što jesu.
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I guess one part of me has always been a nomad,
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Mislim da je jedan dio mene oduvijek bio nomadski,
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physically and spiritually.
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u fizičkom i duhovnom smislu.
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Stories accompany me,
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Priče me prate,
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keeping my pieces and memories together,
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držeći na okupu moje dijelove i uspomene,
10:24
like an existential glue.
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poput egzistencijalnog ljepila.
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Yet as much as I love stories,
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Pa ipak, koliko god volim priče,
10:28
recently, I've also begun to think
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u zadnje vrijeme sam počela vjerovati
10:31
that they lose their magic
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da one gube svoju čaroliju
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if and when a story is seen as more than a story.
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ako ih se doživljava za nešto više od samih priča.
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And this is a subject that I would love
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A to je tema o kojoj bih želim
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to think about together.
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da zajedno promislimo.
10:40
When my first novel written in English came out in America,
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Kada je moj prvi roman napisan na engleskom objavljen u Americi,
10:43
I heard an interesting remark from a literary critic.
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dobila sam zanimljivu primjedbu od jednog književnog kritičara.
10:46
"I liked your book," he said, "but I wish you had written it differently."
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"Svidjela mi se vaša knjiga", rekao je, "ali bih volio da ste je dručije napisali".
10:49
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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I asked him what he meant by that.
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Pitala sam ga što mu to znači.
10:55
He said, "Well, look at it. There's so many
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Rekao je, "Pa pogledajte, u romanu je mnogo
10:57
Spanish, American, Hispanic characters in it,
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španjolskih, američkih i latinoameričkih likova,
10:59
but there's only one Turkish character and it's a man."
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ali samo jedan turski, i to muškarac."
11:02
Now the novel took place on a university campus in Boston,
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Radnja se inače odvija na studentskom kampusu u Bostonu,
11:05
so to me, it was normal
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pa mi se činilo normalnim
11:07
that there be more international characters in it
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da ima više međunarodnih likova,
11:09
than Turkish characters,
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nego turskih.
11:11
but I understood what my critic was looking for.
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Ali, shvatila sam što je moj kritičar tražio.
11:13
And I also understood that I
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A shvatila sam i da ću ga
11:15
would keep disappointing him.
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nastaviti razočaravati.
11:17
He wanted to see the manifestation of my identity.
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On je želio vidjeti očitovanje mog identiteta.
11:20
He was looking for a Turkish woman in the book
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U knjizi je tražio Turkinju
11:23
because I happened to be one.
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jer sam to, slučajno, i sama.
11:25
We often talk about how stories change the world,
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Često govorimo o tome kako priče mijenjaju svijet.
11:28
but we should also see how the world of identity politics
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Ali, trebamo uočiti i kako svijet politike identiteta
11:31
affects the way stories
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utječe na način
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are being circulated,
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na koji priče kruže,
11:35
read and reviewed.
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čitaju se i recenziraju.
11:37
Many authors feel this pressure,
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Mnogi pisci osjećaju ovaj pritisak,
11:39
but non-Western authors feel it more heavily.
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ali ne-zapadnjački pisci izloženi su mu još i više.
11:42
If you're a woman writer from the Muslim world, like me,
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Ako si spisateljica iz muslimanskog svijeta, poput mene,
11:45
then you are expected to write
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tada se od tebe očekuje da pišeš
11:47
the stories of Muslim women
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priče o muslimanskim ženama
11:49
and, preferably, the unhappy stories
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i to, najbolje, nesretne priče
11:51
of unhappy Muslim women.
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o nesretnim muslimanskim ženama.
11:53
You're expected to write
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Očekuje se da pišeš
11:55
informative, poignant and characteristic stories
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poučne, dirljive i tipične priče,
11:58
and leave the experimental and avant-garde
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a da eksperimentalne i avangardne priče prepustiš
12:00
to your Western colleagues.
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svojim kolegama sa Zapada.
12:02
What I experienced as a child in that school in Madrid
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Ono što sam kao dijete doživjela u onoj madridskoj školi
12:05
is happening in the literary world today.
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događa se i u današnjem književnom svijetu.
12:08
Writers are not seen
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Pisce se ne doživljava kao
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as creative individuals on their own,
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samostalne kreativne pojedince,
12:12
but as the representatives
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već kao predstavnike
12:14
of their respective cultures:
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svojih kultura.
12:16
a few authors from China, a few from Turkey,
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Nekoliko pisaca iz Kine, nekoliko iz Turske,
12:19
a few from Nigeria.
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nekoliko iz Nigerije.
12:21
We're all thought to have something very distinctive,
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Svih nas se doživljava kao vrlo osobite,
12:23
if not peculiar.
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ako ne i čudnovate.
12:25
The writer and commuter James Baldwin
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Pisac i putnik, James Baldwin,
12:28
gave an interview in 1984
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1984. je dao jedan intervju
12:30
in which he was repeatedly asked about his homosexuality.
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u kojem ga se više puta upitalo za njegovu homoseksualnost.
12:33
When the interviewer tried to pigeonhole him
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Kada ga je novinar pokušao smjestiti u ladicu
12:35
as a gay writer,
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s homoseksualnim piscima,
12:37
Baldwin stopped and said,
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Baldwin je zastao i rekao,
12:39
"But don't you see? There's nothing in me
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"Ali, zar ne vidite? U meni nema ničeg
12:41
that is not in everybody else,
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čega nema i u svakom drugom čovjeku,
12:43
and nothing in everybody else
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i u drugima nema ničeg
12:45
that is not in me."
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čega nema i u meni."
12:47
When identity politics tries to put labels on us,
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Kada nas politika identiteta pokušava etiketirati,
12:50
it is our freedom of imagination that is in danger.
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ugrožena je naša sloboda imaginacije.
12:53
There's a fuzzy category called
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Postoji jedna pomalo nejasna kategorija
12:55
multicultural literature
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poznata kao multikulturalna književnost,
12:57
in which all authors from outside the Western world
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u koju su zajedno ubačeni svi pisci
12:59
are lumped together.
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izvan zapadnjačkog svijeta.
13:01
I never forget my first multicultural reading,
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Nikada neću zaboraviti svoje prvo multikulturalno čitanje,
13:03
in Harvard Square about 10 years ago.
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na trgu Harvard prije 10-ak godina.
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We were three writers, one from the Philippines,
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Bilo nas je troje pisaca, jedan s Filipina,
13:09
one Turkish and one Indonesian --
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jedan iz Turske i jedan iz Indonezije --
13:11
like a joke, you know.
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znate, kao iz viceva...
13:13
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
13:15
And the reason why we were brought together
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A razlog zašto su nas okupili
13:17
was not because we shared an artistic style
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nije bio zato što smo dijelili isti umjetnički stil
13:19
or a literary taste.
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ili književni ukus.
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It was only because of our passports.
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Jedini razlog su bile naše putovnice.
13:23
Multicultural writers are expected to tell real stories,
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Od multikulturalnih pisaca očekuje se da pričaju stvarne priče,
13:26
not so much the imaginary.
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a ne izmišljene.
13:28
A function is attributed to fiction.
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Fikciji je dodijeljena funkcija.
13:31
In this way, not only the writers themselves,
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Na taj način, ne samo pisci
13:33
but also their fictional characters
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već i njihovi likovi
13:36
become the representatives of something larger.
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postaju predstavnici nečeg većeg.
13:39
But I must quickly add
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Ali, moram brzo dodati
13:41
that this tendency to see a story
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da ova sklonost da se priču
13:43
as more than a story
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doživljava kao nešto više od nje same
13:45
does not solely come from the West.
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nije prisutna samo na Zapadu.
13:47
It comes from everywhere.
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Prisutna je svugdje.
13:49
And I experienced this firsthand
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A to sam iz prve ruke doživjela
13:51
when I was put on trial in 2005
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kada sam 2005. sudski optužena
13:54
for the words my fictional characters uttered in a novel.
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zbog riječi koje su moji izmišljeni likovi izgovarali u romanu.
13:57
I had intended to write
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Bila sam namjeravala napisati
13:59
a constructive, multi-layered novel
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konstruktivni, višeslojni roman
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about an Armenian and a Turkish family
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o jednoj armenskoj i jednoj turskoj obitelji
14:04
through the eyes of women.
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iz perspektive jedne žene.
14:06
My micro story became a macro issue
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Moja mikro priča na suđenju je postala
14:09
when I was prosecuted.
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makro problem.
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Some people criticized, others praised me
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Neki su me kritizirali, neki hvalili
14:13
for writing about the Turkish-Armenian conflict.
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zbog toga što sam pisala o tursko-armenskom sukobu.
14:16
But there were times when I wanted to remind both sides
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Ali, u nekim sam trenucima obje strane željela podsjetiti
14:19
that this was fiction.
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da je riječ o fikciji.
14:21
It was just a story.
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Da je to samo priča.
14:23
And when I say, "just a story,"
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A kada kažem "samo priča",
14:25
I'm not trying to belittle my work.
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ne nastojim podcijeniti svoj rad.
14:27
I want to love and celebrate fiction
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Želim voljeti i slaviti fikciju
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for what it is,
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zbog onog što ona jest,
14:31
not as a means to an end.
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a ne kao sredstvo za određeni cilj.
14:33
Writers are entitled to their political opinions,
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Pisci imaju pravo na svoje političke stavove,
14:35
and there are good political novels out there,
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i u svijetu ima dobrih političkih romana,
14:38
but the language of fiction
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ali, jezik fikcije
14:40
is not the language of daily politics.
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nije jezik svakodnevne politike.
14:42
Chekhov said,
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Čehov je rekao,
14:44
"The solution to a problem
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"Rješenje nekog problema
14:46
and the correct way of posing the question
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i ispravan način postavljanja pitanja
14:48
are two completely separate things.
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dvije su potpuno različite stvari.
14:51
And only the latter is an artist's responsibility."
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A umjetnik je odgovoran samo za ovu drugu".
14:55
Identity politics divides us. Fiction connects.
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Politika identiteta nas razdvaja. Fikcija nas spaja.
14:58
One is interested in sweeping generalizations.
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Jednu zanimaju široke generalizacije.
15:01
The other, in nuances.
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Drugu nijanse.
15:03
One draws boundaries.
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Jedna ocrtava granice.
15:05
The other recognizes no frontiers.
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Druga granice ne priznaje.
15:07
Identity politics is made of solid bricks.
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Politika identiteta sačinjena je od tvrde opeke.
15:10
Fiction is flowing water.
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Fikcija je voda tekućica.
15:13
In the Ottoman times, there were itinerant storytellers called "meddah."
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U otomansko doba, postojali su putujući pripovjedači nazvani "meddah".
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They would go to coffee houses,
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Odlazili bi u kavane,
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where they would tell a story in front of an audience,
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gdje bi pred publikom pripovijedali priče,
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often improvising.
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uglavnom improvizirajući.
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With each new person in the story,
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Sa svakim novim likom u priči,
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the meddah would change his voice,
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meddah bi promijenio glas,
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impersonating that character.
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utjelovljujući taj lik.
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Everybody could go and listen, you know --
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Svi su mogli ući i slušati,
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ordinary people, even the sultan, Muslims and non-Muslims.
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obični ljudi, čak i sultan, muslimani i ne-muslimani.
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Stories cut across all boundaries,
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Priče preskaču sve granice.
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like "The Tales of Nasreddin Hodja,"
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Poput "Priča o Nasrudinu Hodži",
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which were very popular throughout the Middle East,
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koje su bile popularne širom Srednjeg Istoka,
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North Africa, the Balkans and Asia.
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Sjeverne Afrike, Balkana i Azije.
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Today, stories continue
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I danas, priče nastavljaju
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to transcend borders.
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prelaziti granice.
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When Palestinian and Israeli politicians talk,
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Kada palestinski i izraleski političari razgovaraju,
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they usually don't listen to each other,
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obično jedni druge ne slušaju.
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but a Palestinian reader
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Ali, palestinski čitatelj
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still reads a novel by a Jewish author,
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i dalje čita roman židovskog pisca
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and vice versa, connecting and empathizing
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i obratno, povezujući se i suosjećajući
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with the narrator.
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s pripovjedačem.
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Literature has to take us beyond.
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Književnost nas mora odvesti onkraj.
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If it cannot take us there,
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Ako nas ne može tamo odvesti,
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it is not good literature.
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to onda nije dobra književnost.
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Books have saved the introverted,
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Knjige su spasile introvertirano,
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timid child that I was -- that I once was.
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sramežljivo dijete kakvo sam bila -- kakvo sam nekoć bila.
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But I'm also aware of the danger
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Ali, svjesna sam i opasnosti
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of fetishizing them.
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doživljavanja knjiga kao fetiša.
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When the poet and mystic, Rumi,
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Kada je pjesnik i mistik Rumi
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met his spiritual companion, Shams of Tabriz,
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sreo svog duhovnog pratitelja, Šemsa iz Tabriza,
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one of the first things the latter did
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jedna od prvih stvari koje je ovaj potonji napravio
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was to toss Rumi's books into water
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bilo je baciti Rumijeve knjige u vodu
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and watch the letters dissolve.
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i gledati kako se slova rastvaraju.
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The Sufis say, "Knowledge that takes you not beyond yourself
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Sufiji kažu: "Znanje koje te ne uzdigne iznad sebe samog
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is far worse than ignorance."
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daleko je gore od neznanja."
16:34
The problem with today's cultural ghettos
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Problem današnjih kulturalnih getoa
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is not lack of knowledge --
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nije manjak znanja.
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we know a lot about each other, or so we think --
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Znamo puno jedni o drugima, ili barem tako mislimo.
16:41
but knowledge that takes us not beyond ourselves:
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Ali, znanje koje nas ne uzdiže iznad nas samih,
16:44
it makes us elitist,
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čini nas elitistima,
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distant and disconnected.
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hladnima i udaljenima.
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There's a metaphor which I love:
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Ima jedna metafora koja mi se sviđa:
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living like a drawing compass.
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živjeti poput šestara.
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As you know, one leg of the compass is static, rooted in a place.
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Kao što znate, jedan kraj šestara je nepomičan, ukorijenjen u jednoj točki.
16:55
Meanwhile, the other leg
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Za to vrijeme, drugi kraj
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draws a wide circle, constantly moving.
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ocrtava veliki krug, i neprestano je u pokretu.
16:59
Like that, my fiction as well.
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I moja je fikcija takva.
17:01
One part of it is rooted in Istanbul,
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Jedan dio nje je ukorijenjen u Istanbulu,
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with strong Turkish roots,
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s jakim turskim korijenjem.
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but the other part travels the world,
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Ali, drugi dio putuje svijetom,
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connecting to different cultures.
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povezujući se s različitim kulturama.
17:10
In that sense, I like to think of my fiction
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U tom smislu, svoju fikciju volim doživljavati
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as both local and universal,
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i kao lokalnu i kao univerzalnu,
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both from here and everywhere.
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koja pripada ovdje i svugdje.
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Now those of you who have been to Istanbul
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Oni među vama koji su bili u Istanbulu,
17:19
have probably seen Topkapi Palace,
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vjerojatno su vidjeli palaču Topkapi
17:21
which was the residence of Ottoman sultans
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koja je bila rezidencija otomanskih sultana
17:23
for more than 400 years.
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više od 400 godina.
17:26
In the palace, just outside the quarters
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U palači, odmah uz prostorije
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of the favorite concubines,
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njihovih najdražih konkubina,
17:30
there's an area called The Gathering Place of the Djinn.
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postoji takozvano 'Okupljalište džina'.
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It's between buildings.
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Nalazi se među zgradama.
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I'm intrigued by this concept.
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Ova ideja me jako zanima.
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We usually distrust those areas
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Često smo nepovjerljivi prema područjima
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that fall in between things.
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koja se nalaze u međuprostoru.
17:41
We see them as the domain
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Vidimo ih kao oblast
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of supernatural creatures like the djinn,
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nadnaravnih bića poput džina,
17:45
who are made of smokeless fire
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koji su načinjeni od vatre bez dima
17:47
and are the symbol of elusiveness.
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i simboliziraju neuhvatljivost.
17:49
But my point is perhaps
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Ali, ono što želim reći je da je možda
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that elusive space
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upravo taj neuhvatljivi prostor
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is what writers and artists need most.
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ono što je piscima i umjetnicima najpotrebnije.
17:56
When I write fiction
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Kada pišem romane,
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I cherish elusiveness and changeability.
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raduje me neuhvatljivost i promjenljivost.
18:00
I like not knowing what will happen 10 pages later.
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Volim ne znati što će se dogoditi 10 stranica iza.
18:03
I like it when my characters surprise me.
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Volim kada me moji likovi iznenade.
18:05
I might write about
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U jednom bi romanu
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a Muslim woman in one novel,
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mogla pisati o muslimanki.
18:09
and perhaps it will be a very happy story,
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I to će možda biti jako sretna priča.
18:11
and in my next book, I might write
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A u sljedećoj bih knjizi mogla pisati
18:13
about a handsome, gay professor in Norway.
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o zgodnom profesoru homoseksualcu u Norveškoj.
18:16
As long as it comes from our hearts,
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Dok god pišemo iz srca,
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we can write about anything and everything.
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možemo pisati o bilo čemu.
18:21
Audre Lorde once said,
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Audre Lorde je rekla:
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"The white fathers taught us to say,
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"Bijeli oci su nas učili da kažemo:
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'I think, therefore I am.'"
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'Mislim, dakle postojim.'"
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She suggested, "I feel, therefore I am free."
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Ona je predložila: "Osjećam, dakle slobodna sam".
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I think it was a wonderful paradigm shift.
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Mislim da je to bila krasna promjena obrasca.
18:34
And yet, why is it that,
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Pa ipak, zašto danas
18:36
in creative writing courses today,
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na tečajevima kreativnog pisanja
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the very first thing we teach students is
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prva stvar koju učimo studente je
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"write what you know"?
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da pišu o onom što poznaju?
18:42
Perhaps that's not the right way to start at all.
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Možda uopće nije dobro tako započeti.
18:45
Imaginative literature is not necessarily about
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Književnost ne znači nužno
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writing who we are or what we know
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pisati o onom što jesmo ili o onome što poznajemo
18:51
or what our identity is about.
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ili o svom identitetu.
18:54
We should teach young people and ourselves
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Trebamo učiti mlade i nas same
18:56
to expand our hearts
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da širimo svoja srca
18:58
and write what we can feel.
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i pišemo o onome što osjećamo.
19:00
We should get out of our cultural ghetto
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Trebamo napustiti svoje kulturne getoe
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and go visit the next one and the next.
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i obići neki drugi geto, i još koji.
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In the end, stories move like whirling dervishes,
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Na koncu, priče se kreću poput derviša u vrtnji,
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drawing circles beyond circles.
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crtajući krugove preko krugova.
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They connect all humanity,
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One povezuju čitavo čovječanstvo,
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regardless of identity politics,
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bez obzira na politiku identiteta.
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and that is the good news.
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I to je dobra vijest.
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And I would like to finish with an old Sufi poem:
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Voljela bih završiti starim sufijskim stihovima.
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"Come, let us be friends for once;
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"Dođi, budimo načas prijatelji;
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let us make life easy on us;
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olakšajmo si život;
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let us be lovers and loved ones;
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budimo ljubavnici i voljeni;
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the earth shall be left to no one."
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zemlja neće ostati nikome."
19:29
Thank you.
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Hvala.
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(Applause)
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