Suzanne Talhouk: Don't kill your language

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Translator: khalid marbou Reviewer: Anwar Dafa-Alla
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Prevodilac: Stefan Zrnović Lektor: Mile Živković
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Good morning!
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Dobro jutro!
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Are you awake?
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Da li ste budni?
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They took my name tag, but I wanted to ask you,
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Uzeli su mi akreditaciju, ali sam želela da vas pitam
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did anyone here write their name on the tag in Arabic?
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da li neko ovde ima napisano svoje ime na akreditaciji na arapskom?
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Anyone! No one? All right, no problem.
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Bilo ko! Niko? U redu, nema problema.
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Once upon a time, not long ago,
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Nekada davno, ne previše davno,
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I was sitting in a restaurant with my friend, ordering food.
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sedela sam u restoranu sa prijateljicom i naručivala hranu.
00:38
So I looked at the waiter and said,
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Pogledala sam u konobara i rekla:
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"Do you have a menu (Arabic)?"
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"Da li imate jelovnik (arapski)?"
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He looked at me strangely, thinking that he misheard.
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Pogledao me je čudno, misleći da nije dobro čuo.
00:49
He said, "Sorry? (English)."
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Rekao je: "Pardon (engleski)."
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I said, "The menu (Arabic), please."
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Rekla sam: "Jelovnik (arapski), molim vas."
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He replied, "Don't you know what they call it?"
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Odgovorio je: "Zar ne znate kako to zovu?"
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"I do."
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"Znam."
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He said, "No! It's called "menu" (English), or "menu" (French)."
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Rekao je: "Ne! Zove se "jelovnik" (engleski) ili " meni" (francuski)".
01:04
Is the French pronunciation correct?
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Da li je francuski izgovor tačan?
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"Come, come, take care of this one!" said the waiter.
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"Dođi, dođi, pobrini se za ovu!" rekao je konobar.
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He was disgusted when talking to me, as if he was saying to himself,
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Bio je zgađen kad je razgovarao sa mnom, kao da je govorio u sebi:
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"If this was the last girl on Earth, I wouldn't look at her!"
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"Da je ovo poslednja žena na planeti, ne bih je pogledao!"
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What's the meaning of saying "menu" in Arabic?
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Koje je značenje reči " jelovnik" na arapskom jeziku?
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Two words made a Lebanese young man judge a girl as being backward
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Dve reči su učinile da mladi Libanac devojku smatra zaostalom
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and ignorant.
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i neznalicom.
01:30
How could she speak that way?
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Kako ona može tako da govori?
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At that moment, I started thinking.
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U tom trenutku, počela sam da razmišljam.
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It made me mad.
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Naljutilo me je.
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It definitely hurts!
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Definitvno boli!
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I'm denied the right to speak my own language in my own country?
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Nemam pravo da govorim svoj jezik u svojoj sopstvenoj zemlji?
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Where could this happen?
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Gde bi se ovo moglo desiti?
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How did we get here?
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Kako je došlo do ovoga?
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Well, while we are here, there are many people like me,
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Dok smo mi ovde, postoji mnogo ljudi poput mene,
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who would reach a stage in their lives, where they involuntarily give up
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koji bi dospeli do tog nivoa u svojim životima, gde nevoljno odustaju
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everything that has happened to them in the past,
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od svega što im se desilo u prošlosti,
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just so they can say that they're modern
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samo da bi mogli da kažu da su moderni
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and civilized.
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i civilizovani.
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Should I forget all my culture, thoughts,
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Treba li da zaboravim svu svoju kulturu, misli,
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intellect and all my memories?
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intelekt i svoja sećanja?
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Childhood stories might be the best memories we have of the war!
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Priče iz detinjstva mogu biti najbolja sećanja koja nosimo iz rata!
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Should I forget everything I learned in Arabic, just to conform?
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Treba li da zaboravim sve što sam naučila na arapskom, samo da bih se prilagodila?
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To be one of them?
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Da bi bila jedna od njih?
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Where's the logic in that?
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Gde je tu logika?
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Despite all that, I tried to understand him.
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Uprkos svemu tome, pokušala sam da ga razumem.
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I didn't want to judge him with the same cruelty that he judged me.
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Nisam htela da ga osuđujem sa istom surovošću kao što je to on meni učinio.
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The Arabic language doesn't satisfy today's needs.
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Arapski jezik ne zadovoljava današnje potrebe.
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It's not a language for science,
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Nije jezik za nauku,
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research,
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istraživanje,
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a language we're used to in universities,
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jezik koji smo koristili na univerzitetima,
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a language we use in the workplace,
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jezik koji korisitmo na radnim mestima,
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a language we rely on if we were to perform an advanced research project,
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na koji se oslanjamo jedino kada izvodimo napredne istraživačke projekte,
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and it definitely isn't a language we use at the airport.
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i to definitivno nije jezik koji koristimo na aerodromima.
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If we did so, they'd strip us of our clothes.
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Da to radimo, skinuli bi nam odeću.
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Where can I use it, then? We could all ask this question!
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Gde ga onda mogu korisiti? Mogli bismo da postavimo ovo pitanje!
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So, you want us to use Arabic. Where are we to do so?
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Dakle, želite da koristite arapski. Gde to da činimo?
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This is one reality.
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Ovo je stvarnost.
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But we have another more important reality that we ought to think about.
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Ali imamo drugu važniju stvarnost o kojoj moramo da mislimo.
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Arabic is the mother tongue.
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Arapski je maternji jezik.
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Research says that mastery of other languages
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Istraživanje kaže da znanje drugih jezika
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demands mastery of the mother tongue.
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zahteva veštinu znanja maternjeg jezika.
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Mastery of the mother tongue is a prerequisite for creative expression in other languages.
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Znanje sopstvenog jezika je preduslov za kreativno izražavanje na drugim jezicima.
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How?
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Kako?
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Gibran Khalil Gibran,
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Gibran Kalil Gibran,
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when he first started writing, he used Arabic.
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kada je prvi put počeo da piše, koristio je arapski.
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All his ideas, imagination and philosophy
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Sve njegove ideje, mašta i filozofija
su bili inspirisani ovim dečakom u selu
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were inspired by this little boy in the village
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03:54
where he grew up, smelling a specific smell,
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kada je odrastao i mirisao određeni miris,
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hearing a specific voice,
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slušao poseban glas
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and thinking a specific thought.
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i mislio posebne misli.
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So, when he started writing in English, he had enough baggage.
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Kada je počeo da piše na engleskom, imao je dovoljno materijala.
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Even when he wrote in English,
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Čak kada je pisao na engleskom,
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when you read his writings in English, you smell the same smell,
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kada čitate njegove spise na engleskom, osećate isti miris
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sense the same feeling.
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imate isti osećaj.
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You can imagine that that's him writing in English,
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Možete da zamislite da je to on koji piše na engleskom,
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the same boy who came from the mountain. From a village on Mount Lebanon.
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isti dečak ko je došao sa planine. Iz sela na Mont Libanu.
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So, this is an example no one can argue with.
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Ovo je primer koji niko ne može da ospori.
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Second, it's often said that if you want to kill a nation,
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Drugo, često se kaže da ako želite da ubijete naciju,
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the only way to kill a nation,
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jedini način da to uradite,
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is to kill its language.
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je da ubijete njen jezik.
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This is a reality that developed societies are aware of.
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Ovo je stvarnost koje su razvijena društva svesna.
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The Germans, French, Japanese and Chinese, all these nations are aware of this.
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Nemci, Francuzi, Japanci i Kinezi, svi ti narodi su svesni toga.
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That's why they legislate to protect their language.
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Zato imaju zakone koji štite njihove jezike.
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They make it sacred.
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Učinili su ga svetim.
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That's why they use it in production, they pay a lot of money to develop it.
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Zato ih koriste u svom stvaranju, plaćaju mnogo novca da bi ga razvili.
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Do we know better than them?
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Da li mi znamo bolje od njih?
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All right,
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U redu,
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we aren't from the developed world,
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mi ne potičemo iz razvijenog sveta,
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this advanced thinking hasn't reached us yet,
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ovo napredno mišljenje nije doprlo do nas još uvek,
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and we would like to catch up with the civilized world.
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i voleli bismo da ispratimo civilizovani svet.
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Countries that were once like us, but decided to strive for development,
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Zemlje koje su nekad bile poput nas, odlučile su da se okrenu razvoju,
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do research,
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urade istraživanje,
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and catch up with those countries,
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i dostignu te zemlje,
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such as Turkey, Malaysia and others,
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kao što su Turska, Malezija i ostale.
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they carried their language with them as they were climbing the ladder,
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Nosile su svoj jezik sa sobom kako su se uspinjale na lestvici,
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protected it like a diamond.
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zaštićen kao dijamant.
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They kept it close to them.
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Držale su ga blizu sebe.
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Because if you get any product from Turkey or elsewhere
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Jer ako dobijete bilo koji proizvod iz Turske ili bilo gde
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and it's not labeled in Turkish,
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a nije označen na turskom,
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then it isn't a local product.
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to onda nije lokalni proizvod.
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You wouldn't believe it's a local product.
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Ne biste verovali da je lokalni proizvod.
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They'd go back to being consumers,
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Vratili biste se nazad mušterijama,
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clueless consumers, like we are most of the time.
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neobaveštenim potrošačima, kakvi smo svi većinom vremena.
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So, in order for them to innovate and produce, they had to protect their language.
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U cilju uvođenja novina i stvaranja, morali su da štite svoj jezik.
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If I say, "Freedom, sovereignty, independence (Arabic),"
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Ako kažem: "Sloboda, suverenitet, nezavisnost (arapski)",
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what does this remind you of?
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na šta vas to podseća?
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It doesn't ring a bell, does it?
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Ne pali vam lampicu, zar ne?
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Regardless of the who, how and why.
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Bez obzira na koga, kako i zašto.
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Language isn't just for conversing, just words coming out of our mouths.
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Jezik nije samo za razgovor, samo reči koje izlaze iz usta.
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Language represents specific stages in our lives,
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Jezik predstavlja posebne stadijume u našim životima,
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and terminology that is linked to our emotions.
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i terminologiju koja je povezana sa našim životima.
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So when we say, "Freedom, sovereignty, independence,"
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Kada kažemo "sloboda, suverenitet, nezavisnost",
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each one of you draws a specific image in their own mind,
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svako od vas slika posebnu sliku u sopstvenom umu,
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there are specific feelings
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tu su posebna osećanja
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of a specific day in a specific historical period.
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posebnog dana u posebnom istorijskom periodu.
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Language isn't one, two or three words or letters put together.
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Jezik nije jedna, dve ili tri reči ili slova zajedno sastavljena.
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It's an idea inside that relates to how we think,
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To je unutrašnja ideja koja se povezuje sa načinom na koji mislimo,
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and how we see each other and how others see us.
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i kako vidimo jedni druge i kako drugi vide nas.
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What is our intellect?
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Šta je naš intelekt?
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How do you say whether this guy understands or not?
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Kako reći da li nas ovaj čovek razume ili ne?
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So, if I say, "Freedom, sovereignty, independence (English),"
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Ako kažem: "Sloboda, suverenitet, nezavisnost (engleski)",
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or if your son came up to you and said,
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ili ako vam priđe sin i kaže
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"Dad, have you lived through the period of the freedom (English) slogan?"
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"Tata, da li si živeo u periodu slogana freedom (engleski)?"
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How would you feel?
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Kako biste se osećali?
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If you don't see a problem,
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Ako ne vidite problem,
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then I'd better leave, and stop talking in vain.
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onda je bolje da odem i prestanem da pričam uzalud.
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The idea is that these expressions remind us of a specific thing.
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Poenta je da nas ova očekivanja podsećaju na određenu stvar.
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I have a francophone friend who's married to a French man.
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Imam frankofonu prijateljicu koja je udata za Francuza.
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I asked her once how things were going.
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Pitala sam je jednom kako joj ide.
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She said, "Everything is fine,
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Rekla je: "Sve je dobro,
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but once, I spent a whole night asking and trying to translate
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ali sam jednom provela čitavu noć pitajući se i tražeći prevod
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the meaning of the word 'toqborni' for him."
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značenja reči "toqborni" za njega."
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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The poor woman had mistakenly told him "toqborni,"
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Sirotica mu je greškom rekla "toqborni",
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and then spent the whole night trying to explain it to him.
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i onda provela čitavu noć pokušavajući da mu je objasni.
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He was puzzled by the thought: "How could anyone be this cruel?
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Bio je zbunjen mišlju: "Kako neko može biti tako okrutan?"
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Does she want to commit suicide?
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Da li želi da izvrši samoubistvo?
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'Bury me?' (English)"
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"Zakopa me? (engleski)"
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This is one of the few examples.
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Ovo je jedan od primera.
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It made us feel that she's unable to tell that word to her husband,
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Učinilo je da smatramo da ne zna da kaže tu reč svom mužu,
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since he won't understand,
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jer je neće razumeti
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and he's right not to; his way of thinking is different.
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i u pravu je što je ne razume; njegov način razmišljanja je drugačiji.
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She said to me, "He listens to Fairuz with me,
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Rekla mi je: "Sluša Fairuzu sa mnom,
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and one night, I tried to translate for him
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i jedne noći pokušala sam da mu prevedem
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so he can feel what I feel when I listen to Fairuz."
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da bi i on mogao da oseti isto što i ja kada slušam Fairuzu."
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The poor woman tried to translate this for him:
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Sirotica je pokušala da mu prevede:
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"From them I extended my hands and stole you --"
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"Od njih sam pružila svoje ruke i ukrala te -"
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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And here's the pickle:
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Ali evo problema:
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"And because you belong to them, I returned my hands and left you."
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"A pošto im pripadaš, vratila sam svoje ruke i napustila te."
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
08:54
Translate that for me.
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Prevedite mi to.
08:56
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
09:03
So, what have we done to protect the Arabic language?
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I šta smo uradili da zaštitimo arapski jezik?
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We turned this into a concern of the civil society,
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Preokrenuli smo ovo u brigu građanskog društva,
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and we launched a campaign to preserve the Arabic language.
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i lansirali smo kampanju da sačuvamo arapski jezik.
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Even though many people told me, "Why do you bother?
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Iako mi je mnogo ljudi reklo: "Zašto se brineš?
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Forget about this headache and go have fun."
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Zaboravi na tu glavobolju i idi zabavi se."
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No problem!
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Nema problema!
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The campaign to preserve Arabic launched a slogan that says,
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Kampanja očuvanja arapskog jezika sastavila je slogan koji kaže:
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"I talk to you from the East, but you reply from the West."
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"Govorim ti sa Istoka, a ti odgovori sa Zapada."
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We didn't say, "No! We do not accept this or that."
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Nismo rekli: "Ne! Ne prihvatamo ovo ili ono."
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We didn't adopt this style because that way, we wouldn't be understood.
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Nismo usvojili ovaj stil jer tako ne bismo bili shvaćeni.
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And when someone talks to me that way, I hate the Arabic language.
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I kada mi neko govori na taj način, mrzim arapski jezik.
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We say--
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Kažemo -
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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We want to change our reality,
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Želimo da promenimo svoju stvarnost
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and be convinced in a way that reflects our dreams, aspirations and day-to-day life.
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i budemo uvereni na način koji izražava naše snove, nadanja i svakodnevni život.
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In a way that dresses like us and thinks like we do.
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Na način na koji se ponaša i misli kao i mi.
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So, "I talk to you from the East, but you reply from the West"
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Stoga je "govorim ti sa Istoka, a ti odgovori sa Zapada."
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has hit the spot.
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pogodilo cilj.
10:06
Something very easy, yet creative and persuasive.
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Nešto veoma jednostavno, ali i kreativno i ubedljivo.
10:10
After that, we launched another campaign
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Nakon toga, pokrenuli smo drugu kampanju
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with scenes of letters on the ground.
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sa scenama slova na zemlji.
10:17
You've seen an example of it outside,
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Videli ste taj primer napolju,
10:20
a scene of a letter surrounded by black and yellow tape
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prizor slova okruženih crnom i žutom trakom
10:24
with "Don't kill your language!" written on it.
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sa ispisanim "nemojte ubiti svoj jezik".
10:27
Why? Seriously, don't kill your language.
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Zašto? Ozbiljno, ne ubijajte svoj jezik.
10:31
We really shouldn't kill our language.
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Zaista ne bi trebalo da ubijamo svoj jezik.
10:34
If we were to kill the language, we'd have to find an identity.
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Ako bismo ga ubijali, trebalo bi da nađemo identitet.
10:39
We'd have to find an existence.
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Trebalo bi da nađemo postojanje.
10:41
We'd go back to the beginning.
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Trebalo bi da se vratimo nazad na početak.
10:43
This is beyond just missing our chance of being modern and civilized.
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Ovde se ne radi o tome da gubimo priliku da budemo moderni i civilizovani.
10:51
After that we released photos of guys and girls wearing the Arabic letter.
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Nakon toga smo objavili slike momaka i devojaka koji nose arapska slova.
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Photos of "cool" guys and girls.
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Slike "kul" momaka i devojaka.
11:00
We are very cool!
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Veoma smo kul!
11:02
And to whoever might say, "Ha! You used an English word!"
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I onima koji bi rekli: "Ha, upotrebili ste englesku reč!"
11:07
I say, "No! I adopt the word 'cool.'"
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kažem: "Ne! Usvajam reč kul."
11:11
Let them object however they want, but give me a word that's nicer
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Pustite ih da sude kako žele, ali mi dajte lepšu reč
11:14
and matches the reality better.
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i koja se slaže bolje sa stvarnošću.
11:17
I will keep on saying "Internet"
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Nastaviću da govorim "internet",
11:19
I wouldn't say: "I'm going to the world wide web"
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ne bih rekla: "Idem na svetsku mrežu."
11:22
(Laughs)
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(Smeh)
11:24
Because it doesn't fit! We shouldn't kid ourselves.
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Jer se ne uklapa! Ne bi trebalo da se zavaravamo.
11:27
But to reach this point, we all have to be convinced
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Ali da bi se dostigla ova tačka, svi treba da budemo uvereni
11:31
that we shouldn't allow anyone who is bigger
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da ne bi trebalo da dozvolimo nikome ko je veći
11:34
or thinks they have any authority over us when it comes to language,
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ili misli da ima bilo kakav autoritet nad nama kada je jezik u pitanju,
11:37
to control us or make us think and feel what they want.
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da nas kontroliše ili da nas uveri da mislimo i osećamo ono što on želi.
11:43
Creativity is the idea.
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Kreativnost je ideja.
Ako ne možemo da dostignemo svemir ili napravimo raketu i tako dalje,
11:47
So, if we can't reach space or build a rocket and so on,
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11:50
we can be creative.
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možemo da budemo kreativni.
11:52
At this moment, every one of you is a creative project.
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U ovom trenutku, svako od vas je kreativni projekat.
11:55
Creativity in your mother tongue is the path.
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Kreativnost u vašem maternjem jeziku je putanja.
11:58
Let's start from this moment.
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Počnimo od ovog trenutka.
12:02
Let's write a novel or produce a short film.
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Počnimo da pišemo roman ili stvaramo kratki film.
12:04
A single novel could make us global again.
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Jedan roman bi mogao da nas ponovo učini globalnim.
12:07
It could bring the Arabic language back to being number one.
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Mogao bi da vrati arapski jezik na prvo mesto.
12:12
So, it's not true that there's no solution; there is a solution!
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Nije istina da nema rešenja - postoji rešenje!
12:16
But we have to know that, and be convinced that a solution exists,
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Ali moramo to da znamo i da budemo uvereni da rešenje postoji,
12:20
that we have a duty to be part of that solution.
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da imamo obavezu da budemo deo tog rešenja.
12:23
In conclusion, what can you do today?
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Da zaključim, šta možemo da uradimo danas?
12:26
Now, tweets, who's tweeting?
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Sad, tvitovi, ko tvituje?
12:32
Please, I beg of you, even though my time has finished,
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Molim vas, preklinjem vas, iako mi je vreme isteklo,
12:37
either Arabic, English, French or Chinese.
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bilo da je na arapskom, engleskom, francuskom ili kineskom.
12:42
But don't write Arabic with Latin characters mixed with numbers!
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Ali ne pišite arapski latiničnim slovima mešanim sa brojevima!
12:48
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
12:52
It's a disaster! That's not a language.
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To je užasno! To nije jezik.
12:55
You'd be entering a virtual world with a virtual language.
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Ulazite u virtuelni svet sa virtuelnim jezikom.
12:59
It's not easy to come back from such a place and rise.
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Nije lako vratiti se nazad iz takvog mesta i uzdići.
13:02
That's the first thing we can do.
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To je prva stvar koju možemo da uradimo.
13:04
Second, there are many other things that we can do.
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Druga je da postoji mnogo drugih stvari koje možemo da učinimo.
13:07
We're not here today to convince each other.
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Nismo danas ovde da bismo ubeđivali jedni druge.
13:09
We're here to bring attention to the necessity of preserving this language.
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Ovde smo da bismo privukli pažnju na neophodnost čuvanja ovog jezika.
13:13
Now I will tell you a secret.
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Odaću vam tajnu.
13:17
A baby first identifies its father
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Beba se prvo identifikuje sa ocem
13:22
through language.
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putem jezika.
13:24
When my daughter is born, I'll tell her, "This is your father, honey (Arabic)."
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Kada se rodila moja ćerka, rekla sam joj: "Ovo je tvoj otac, dušo (arapski)".
13:29
I wouldn't say, "This is your dad, honey (English)."
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Nisam rekla: "Ovo je tvoj otac, dušo (engleski)."
13:34
And in the supermarket, I promise my daughter Noor,
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U supermarketu, obećavam svojoj ćerki Nor,
13:37
that if she says to me, "Thanks (Arabic),"
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da ako mi kaže: "Hvala (arapski)", neću joj reći
13:40
I won't say, "Dis, 'Merci, Maman,'" and hope no one has heard her.
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"Reci 'Hvala mama' (francuski)", nadajući se da je niko nije čuo.
13:44
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
13:55
Let's get rid of this cultural cringe.
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Hajde da se rešimo ovog kulturnog ropstva.
14:01
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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