Why 30 is not the new 20 | Meg Jay

Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast

Translator: Anja Pogacnik Reviewer: Rok Krulec

When I was in my 20s,

Ko sem bila v svojih dvajsetih

I saw my very first psychotherapy client.

sem imela prvo psihoterapevtsko stranko.

I was a Ph.D. student in clinical psychology at Berkeley.

Jaz sem bila doktorska študentka klinične psihologije na Berkeleyju.

Ona je bila 26-letnica po imenu Alex.

She was a 26-year-old woman named Alex.

Now Alex walked into her first session wearing jeans and a big slouchy top,

Alex je prišla na svojo prvo seanso

oblečena v kavbojke in veliko, visečo majico

and she dropped onto the couch in my office

in se vrgla na kavč v moji pisarni,

and kicked off her flats

brcnila z nog svoje natikače

and told me she was there to talk about guy problems.

in mi rekla, da se hoče pogovarjati o svojih težavah s fanti.

Now when I heard this, I was so relieved.

Ko sem to slišala, mi je res odleglo.

Moja sošolka je dobila za svojo prvo stranko požigalca.

My classmate got an arsonist for her first client.

(Laughter)

(smeh)

And I got a twentysomething who wanted to talk about boys.

In jaz sem dobila dvajset-in-nekaj-letnico, ki se je hotela pogovarjati o fantih.

This I thought I could handle.

Mislila sem, da bom to zmogla.

But I didn't handle it.

A nisem zmogla.

With the funny stories that Alex would bring to session,

S smešnimi zgodbami, ki jih je Alex pripovedovala na seansah,

je bilo lahko samo prikimavati,

it was easy for me just to nod my head

medtem ko sva se vrteli kot mački okoli vrele kaše.

while we kicked the can down the road.

"Thirty's the new 20," Alex would say,

"Trideseta so nova dvajseta," je govorila Alex,

and as far as I could tell, she was right.

in če ste vprašali mene, je imela prav.

Work happened later, marriage happened later,

Služba se je dogajala kasneje, zakoni so se dogajali kasneje,

kids happened later, even death happened later.

otroci so se zgodili kasneje, celo smrt se je zgodila kasneje.

Twentysomethings like Alex and I had nothing but time.

Dvajset-in-nekaj-letniki kot Alex in jaz niso imeli drugega kot čas.

But before long, my supervisor pushed me to push Alex about her love life.

A kmalu je moj nadzornik zahteval,

da se z Alex pogovorim o njenem ljubezenskem življenju.

I pushed back.

Uprla sem se.

Rekla sem: "Seveda, hodi s slabšimi od sebe,

I said, "Sure, she's dating down,

she's sleeping with a knucklehead,

spi z navadnim butcem,

but it's not like she's going to marry the guy."

ampak saj se ne bo poročila z njim."

And then my supervisor said,

In potem je moj nadzornik rekel:

"Not yet, but she might marry the next one.

"Ne še, a morda se bo poročila z naslednjim.

Besides, the best time to work on Alex's marriage

Poleg tega, najboljši čas, da delaš z Alex na njenem zakonu,

is before she has one."

je preden ga ima."

That's what psychologists call an "Aha!" moment.

To je to, kar psihologi imenujejo "Aha!" trenutek.

That was the moment I realized, 30 is not the new 20.

To je bil trenutek, ko sem spoznala, da trideseta niso nova dvajseta.

Yes, people settle down later than they used to,

Res je, ljudje se ustalijo kasneje kot v preteklosti,

but that didn't make Alex's 20s a developmental downtime.

a to še ne pomeni, da so Alexina dvajseta razvojni premor.

That made Alex's 20s a developmental sweet spot,

To je pomenilo, da so Alexina dvajseta najboljši razvoji trenutek

and we were sitting there, blowing it.

in midve sva tam sedeli in ga zapravljali.

That was when I realized that this sort of benign neglect

Takrat sem spoznala, da je takšno nedolžno zanemarjanje

was a real problem, and it had real consequences,

resnični problem z resničnimi posledicami,

not just for Alex and her love life

ne samo za Alex in njeno ljubezensko življenje,

but for the careers and the families and the futures

temveč tudi za kariere, družine in prihodnosti

of twentysomethings everywhere.

dvajset-in-nekaj-letnikov vsepovsod.

There are 50 million twentysomethings in the United States right now.

Kar 50 milijonom dvajset-in-nekaj-letnikov

je v Združenih državah Amerike.

We're talking about 15 percent of the population,

Govorimo o 15 % prebivalstva

or 100 percent if you consider

oziroma o 100 %, če upoštevamo,

that no one's getting through adulthood without going through their 20s first.

da nihče ni odrasel,

ne da bi šel najprej skozi svoja dvajseta.

(Laughter)

Raise your hand if you're in your 20s.

Dvignite roko, če ste v svojih dvajsetih.

I really want to see some twentysomethings here.

Res bi rada videla nekaj dvajset-in-nekaj-letnikov tukaj.

O, juhej! Vi vsi ste super!

Oh, yay! You are all awesome.

If you work with twentysomethings, you love a twentysomething,

Če delate z dvajset-in-nekaj-letniki, imate radi dvajset-in-nekaj-letnika,

you're losing sleep over twentysomethings, I want to see —

izgubljate spanec zaradi dvajset-in-nekaj-letnika, dvignite...

Okay. Awesome, twentysomethings really matter.

V redu. Odlično, dvajset-in-nekaj-letniki so res pomembni.

Specializiram se za dvajset-in-nekaj-letnike, ker verjamem,

So, I specialize in twentysomethings because I believe

that every single one of those 50 million twentysomethings

da si čisto vsak izmed tistih 50 milijonov dvajset-in-nekaj-letnikov

deserves to know what psychologists,

zasluži vedeti, kar psihologi,

sociologists, neurologists and fertility specialists

sociologi, nevrologi in plodnostni strokovnjaki

already know:

že vedo:

that claiming your 20s is one of the simplest,

da je prilaščanje svojih dvajsetih najenostavnejša,

yet most transformative, things you can do

a vseeno najbolj transformativna stvar, ki jo lahko naredite

for work, for love, for your happiness,

za svoje delo, ljubezen, za svojo srečo,

maybe even for the world.

morda celo za svet.

This is not my opinion.

To ni moje mnenje. To so dejstva.

These are the facts.

We know that 80 percent of life's most defining moments

Vemo, da se 80 % najpomembnejših življenjskih dogodkov

take place by age 35.

zgodi pred 35. letom.

That means that eight out of 10

To pomeni, da se bo 8 izmed 10. odločitev,

of the decisions and experiences and "Aha!" moments

izkušenj in "Aha!" trenutkov,

that make your life what it is

ki naredijo vaše življenje to kar je,

will have happened by your mid-30s.

zgodilo do sredine vaših tridesetih let.

People who are over 40, don't panic.

Tisti, ki ste čez 40, ne paničarite.

This crowd is going to be fine, I think.

Mislim, da tejle množici ne bo hudega.

We know that the first 10 years of a career

Vemo, da ima prvih 10 let kariere

has an exponential impact on how much money you're going to earn.

eksponentni vpliv

na količino denarja, ki jo boste zaslužili.

We know that more than half of Americans

Vemo, da je več kot polovica Američanov

are married or are living with or dating their future partner by 30.

poročena, živi ali hodi

s svojim bodočim partnerjem do 30. leta.

We know that the brain caps off

Vemo, da možgani izbruhnejo v drugi

its second and last growth spurt in your 20s

in zadnji rasti v vaših dvajsetih,

as it rewires itself for adulthood,

ko se pripravljajo za odraslost,

which means that whatever it is you want to change about yourself,

kar pomeni, da karkoli želite spremeniti na sebi,

now is the time to change it.

je zdaj pravi trenutek za to.

We know that personality changes more during your 20s

Vemo, da se osebnost spremeni bolj v vaših dvajsetih,

than at any other time in life,

kot v katerem koli drugem življenjskem obdobju,

and we know that female fertility peaks at age 28,

ter vemo, da ženska plodnost doseže vrhunec pri 28. letu,

and things get tricky after age 35.

in da se stvari zapletejo po 35. letu.

Vaša dvajseta so torej čas, da se izobrazite

So your 20s are the time to educate yourself

about your body and your options.

o vašem telesu in vaših možnostih.

So when we think about child development,

Ko torej pomislimo na otroški razvoj

we all know that the first five years are a critical period

vsi vemo, da je prvih pet let kritičnih

for language and attachment in the brain.

za razvoj jezika in navezanosti v možganih.

It's a time when your ordinary, day-to-day life

To je čas, ko ima vaše običajno, vsakodnevno življenje

has an inordinate impact on who you will become.

neobičajen vpliv na to kar boste postali.

A manj pogosto slišimo, da obstaja

But what we hear less about is that there's such a thing

as adult development,

odrasli razvoj, in da so naša dvajseta

and our 20s are that critical period of adult development.

kritično obdobje odraslega razvoja.

But this isn't what twentysomethings are hearing.

A dvajset-in-nekaj-letniki tega ne slišijo pogosto.

Newspapers talk about the changing timetable of adulthood.

Časopisi pišejo o spremenjenem razporedu odraslosti.

Researchers call the 20s an extended adolescence.

Raziskovalci imenujejo dvajseta podaljšana mladost.

Journalists coin silly nicknames for twentysomethings

Novinarji si zmišljujejo smešne vzdevke za dvajset-in-nekaj-letnike,

like "twixters" and "kidults."

kot so "tviksterji" in "otrokodrasli."

(Laughing) It's true!

Zares.

As a culture, we have trivialized

Kot kultura smo pripisali nepomembnost nečemu,

what is actually the defining decade of adulthood.

kar je odločilno desetletje odraslosti.

Leonard Bernstein said that to achieve great things,

Leonard Bernstein je rekel, da za dosego velikih stvari,

you need a plan and not quite enough time.

potrebuješ načrt in ravno premalo časa.

(Laughing) Isn't that true?

Kaj ni to res?

So what do you think happens

Torej kaj mislite, da se zgodi,

when you pat a twentysomething on the head and you say,

ko potrepljaš dvajset-in-nekaj-letnika po glavi in rečeš,

"You have 10 extra years to start your life"?

"Imaš 10 dodatnih let, da začneš svoje življenje"?

Nič se ne zgodi.

Nothing happens.

To osebo ste oropali občutka nuje in ambicije

You have robbed that person of his urgency and ambition,

and absolutely nothing happens.

in zgodi se popolnoma nič.

And then every day, smart, interesting twentysomethings

Tako vsak dan pametni, zanimivi dvajset-in-nekaj-letniki,

like you or like your sons and daughters

kot ste vi, vaši sinovi ali hčere,

come into my office and say things like this:

pridejo v mojo pisarno in govorijo takšne stvari:

"I know my boyfriend's no good for me,

"Vem, da moj fant ni primeren zame,

but this relationship doesn't count. I'm just killing time."

ampak to razmerje se ne šteje. Samo zapravljam čas."

Or they say, "Everybody says as long as I get started

Ali rečejo, "Vsi pravijo, da dokler začnem

on a career by the time I'm 30, I'll be fine."

s kariero do 30. leta, bo vse v redu."

But then it starts to sound like this:

Ampak potem začne zveneti bolj kot:

"My 20s are almost over, and I have nothing to show for myself.

"Moja dvajseta so skoraj že za mano in nič nimam kar bi lahko pokazala.

I had a better résumé the day after I graduated from college."

Imela sem boljši življenjepis na dan, ko sem diplomirala."

And then it starts to sound like this:

In potem se spremeni v:

"Dating in my 20s was like musical chairs.

"Zmenkarjenje v mojih dvajsetih je bilo kot 'ples s stoli.'

Everybody was running around and having fun,

Vsi smo se podili naokrog in se zabavali,

but then sometime around 30 it was like the music turned off

potem pa je okoli 30. glasba ugasnila

and everybody started sitting down.

in vsi so se začeli usedati.

I didn't want to be the only one left standing up,

Nisem hotela biti edina brez stola,

so sometimes I think I married my husband

zato včasih mislim, da sem se poročila s svojim možem,

because he was the closest chair to me at 30."

ker je bil najbližji stol, ko sem dopolnila 30."

Where are the twentysomethings here?

Kje so dvajset-in-nekaj-letniki?

Do not do that.

Ne delajte tega!

(Laughter)

Okay, now that sounds a little flip, but make no mistake,

V redu, to se sliši nekoliko pretirano, ampak nikar se ne slepite,

the stakes are very high.

tveganja so velika.

Ko se približujete tridesetim,

When a lot has been pushed to your 30s,

there is enormous thirtysomething pressure

se pojavi gromozanski pritisk tridesetih,

to jump-start a career, pick a city, partner up,

da začnete svojo kariero, si izberete mesto, partnerja

and have two or three kids in a much shorter period of time.

in imate dva ali tri otroke v veliko krajšem času.

Many of these things are incompatible,

Veliko teh stvari je nezdružljivih

and as research is just starting to show,

in raziskave začenjajo kazati,

simply harder and more stressful to do all at once in our 30s.

da jih je veliko težje in bolj stresno

opravljati vse naenkrat v naših tridesetih.

The post-millennial midlife crisis isn't buying a red sports car.

Kriza srednjih let v novem tisočletju

ni kupovanje rdečega športnega avtomobila.

It's realizing you can't have that career you now want.

Je spoznanje, da ne morete imeti kariere, ki si jo sedaj želite.

It's realizing you can't have that child you now want,

Je spoznanje, da ne morete imeti otroka, ki si ga sedaj želite,

or you can't give your child a sibling.

ali da svojemu otroku ne morete dati brata ali sestre.

Too many thirtysomethings and fortysomethings

Preveč trideset- in štirideset-in-nekaj-letnikov

look at themselves, and at me, sitting across the room,

gleda sebe in mene, ki sedim nasproti njih,

and say about their 20s,

in rečejo o svojih dvajsetih:

"What was I doing? What was I thinking?"

"Kaj sem delala? Kaj sem razmišljala?"

I want to change what twentysomethings are doing and thinking.

Želim spremeniti kar dvajset-in-nekaj-letniki

delajo in razmišljajo.

Here's a story about how that can go.

Povem vam zgodbo kako se lahko to spremeni.

It's a story about a woman named Emma.

Zgodbo o ženski po imenu Emma.

At 25, Emma came to my office

Kot 25-letnica je Emma prišla v mojo pisarno,

because she was, in her words, having an identity crisis.

ker je imela, kot je rekla sama, krizo identitete.

Rekla je, da bi morda rada delala v umetnosti

She said she thought she might like to work in art or entertainment,

ali zabavni industriji, vendar se še ni odločila,

but she hadn't decided yet,

so she'd spent the last few years waiting tables instead.

zato je preteklih nekaj let delala kot natakarica.

Ker je bilo ceneje, je živela s fantom,

Because it was cheaper, she lived with a boyfriend

who displayed his temper more than his ambition.

ki je bolj razkazoval svojo vzkipljivost kot ambicije.

And as hard as her 20s were,

Njena dvajseta so bila težka,

her early life had been even harder.

a še bolj težko je bilo njeno otroštvo.

Pogosto je jokala na najinih seansah,

She often cried in our sessions,

but then would collect herself by saying,

potem pa se je ponavadi zbrala z besedami:

"You can't pick your family, but you can pick your friends."

"Ne moreš si izbrati družine, lahko pa si izbereš prijatelje."

Well one day, Emma comes in and she hangs her head in her lap,

Nekega dne Emma vstopi,

položi glavo v svoje naročje

and she sobbed for most of the hour.

in joče večino najine ure.

She'd just bought a new address book,

Ravnokar je kupila novi žepni imenik

and she'd spent the morning filling in her many contacts,

in jutro je preživela ob vpisovanju svojih številnih kontaktov,

but then she'd been left staring at that empty blank

potem pa je strmela v prazni prostor,

that comes after the words

ki pride po besedah

"In case of emergency, please call ..."

"V nujnem primeru pokličite..."

She was nearly hysterical when she looked at me and said,

Bila je skoraj histerična, ko me je pogledala in rekla:

"Who's going to be there for me if I get in a car wreck?

"Kdo bo prišel, če me bo zbil avto?

Who's going to take care of me if I have cancer?"

Kdo bo skrbel zame, če bom imela raka?"

Now in that moment, it took everything I had

V tistem trenutku sem mogla zbrati vso svojo moč,

not to say, "I will."

da nisem rekla "Jaz."

Vendar Emma ni potrebovala terapevta,

But what Emma needed wasn't some therapist who really, really cared.

ki ga resnično skrbi.

Emma needed a better life, and I knew this was her chance.

Emma je potrebovala boljše življenje in vedela sem, da je bila to njena priložnost.

I had learned too much since I first worked with Alex

Odkar sem prvič delala z Alex, sem se naučila preveč,

to just sit there while Emma's defining decade

da bi samo sedela in pustila, da gre Emmino odločilno desetletje

s fanfarami mimo naju.

went parading by.

So over the next weeks and months,

Tekom naslednjih tednov in mesecev

I told Emma three things

sem povedala Emmi

tri stvari, ki si jih vsak dvajset-in-nekaj-letnik, naj bo moški ali ženska,

that every twentysomething, male or female,

deserves to hear.

zasluži vedeti.

First, I told Emma to forget about having an identity crisis

Najprej sem ji rekla, naj pozabi na krizo identitete

and get some identity capital.

in si raje pridobi nekaj identitetnega kapitala.

By "get identity capital,"

Z identitetnim kapitalom mislim na stvari,

I mean do something that adds value to who you are.

ki dodajo vrednost tvoji osebnosti.

Do something that's an investment

Naredi nekaj, kar bo investicija

in who you might want to be next.

v osebo, ki morda želiš postati.

I didn't know the future of Emma's career,

Nisem poznala prihodnosti Emmine kariere

and no one knows the future of work,

in nihče ne pozna prihodnosti dela, a vem to:

but I do know this:

Identity capital begets identity capital.

Identitetni kapital poraja identitetni kapital.

So now is the time for that cross-country job,

Zdaj je torej čas za tisto službo nekje daleč,

that internship, that startup you want to try.

tisto pripravništvo, tisto podjetje, ki ga želiš začeti.

I'm not discounting twentysomething exploration here,

Ne zavračam raziskovanja dvajset-in-nekaj-letnikov,

but I am discounting exploration that's not supposed to count,

zavračam pa raziskovanje, ki ni namenjeno ničemur,

ki tako ali tako ni raziskovanje.

which, by the way, is not exploration.

That's procrastination.

To je zavlačevanje.

I told Emma to explore work and make it count.

Emmi sem rekla, naj razišče delovne možnosti in jih izkoristi.

Second, I told Emma that the urban tribe is overrated.

Kot drugo, sem Emmi povedala, da je urbano pleme precenjeno.

Best friends are great for giving rides to the airport,

Najboljši prijatelji so super, ko rabiš prevoz do letališča,

but twentysomethings who huddle together with like-minded peers

vendar dvajset-in-nekaj-letniki, ki se gnetejo

s podobno mislečimi vrstniki, omejijo svoja poznanstva,

limit who they know,

svoje znanje, svoje razmišljanje, svoj govor

what they know, how they think,

how they speak, and where they work.

in svoja delovna mesta.

That new piece of capital, that new person to date

Tisti novi delček kapitala, tista nova oseba za zmenke,

almost always comes from outside the inner circle.

skoraj vedno pride izven stalne družbe.

New things come from what are called our weak ties,

Nove stvari pridejo iz tako imenovanih šibkih vezi,

our friends of friends of friends.

naši prijatelji od prijateljev od prijateljev.

So yes, half of twentysomethings are un- or under-employed.

Res je, polovica dvajset-in-nekaj-letnikov je brez- ali podpovoprečno zaposlena.

But half aren't,

Vendar polovica jih ni in šibke vezi

and weak ties are how you get yourself into that group.

so vstopnica v to skupino.

Half of new jobs are never posted,

Polovica novih delovnih mest ni nikoli razpisanih,

so reaching out to your neighbor's boss is how you get that unposted job.

zato je pogovor s sosedovim šefom

način, kako dobiš tisto neobjavljeno službo.

It's not cheating. It's the science of how information spreads.

To ni goljufanje. Je znanost o širjenju informacij.

Last but not least, Emma believed

In še kot zadnje, Emma je verjela,

that you can't pick your family, but you can pick your friends.

da si ne moreš izbrati družine, lahko pa si izbereš prijatelje.

Now this was true for her growing up,

To je bilo res, ko je odraščala,

but as a twentysomething, soon Emma would pick her family

vendar si bo Emma kot dvajset-in-nekaj-letnica kmalu izbrala svojo družino,

ko si bo izbrala partnerja

when she partnered with someone and created a family of her own.

in začela svojo družino.

Emmi sem rekla, da je zdaj čas za izbiranje družine.

I told Emma the time to start picking your family is now.

Now you may be thinking that 30 is actually a better time to settle down

Morda mislite, da je pri tridesetih

boljši čas, da se ustalite

than 20, or even 25,

kot pri dvajsetih ali celo petindvajsetih

and I agree with you.

in jaz se strinjam.

But grabbing whoever you're living with or sleeping with

Vendar to, da pograbite tistega s katerim slučajno živite ali spite,

when everyone on Facebook starts walking down the aisle

ko vsi na Facebooku začnejo hoditi proti oltarju,

is not progress.

ni napredek.

The best time to work on your marriage is before you have one,

Najboljši čas, da delate na svojem zakonu,

je preden ga imate

and that means being as intentional with love

in to pomeni, da ste z ljubeznijo prav tako namerni,

as you are with work.

kot ste z delom.

Picking your family is about consciously choosing

Izbira družine je zavestna odločitev

who and what you want

koga in kaj si želite,

rather than just making it work or killing time

ne le vztrajanje ali zapravljanje časa

z osebo, ki si je slučajno izbrala vas.

with whoever happens to be choosing you.

So what happened to Emma?

Kaj se je torej zgodilo z Emmo?

Šli sva skozi njen žepni imenik

Well, we went through that address book,

in našla je bratranca bivše cimre,

and she found an old roommate's cousin

who worked at an art museum in another state.

ki je delal v galeriji v drugi zvezni državi.

That weak tie helped her get a job there.

Ta šibka vez ji je pomagala dobiti službo tam.

That job offer gave her the reason to leave that live-in boyfriend.

Ta ponudba za službo ji je dala razlog,

da je zapustila fanta s katerim je živela.

Danes, pet let pozneje, je organizatorka posebnih dogodkov za muzeje.

Now, five years later, she's a special events planner for museums.

Poročena je z moškim, ki ga je zavestno izbrala.

She's married to a man she mindfully chose.

She loves her new career, she loves her new family,

Obožuje svojo novo kariero, obožuje svojo novo družino

in poslala mi je razglednico na kateri je pisalo:

and she sent me a card that said,

"Now the emergency contact blanks

"Zdaj se mi prostori za kontakte v nujnih primerih

don't seem big enough."

ne zdijo dovolj veliki."

Now Emma's story made that sound easy,

Emmina zgodba zveni preprosto

but that's what I love about working with twentysomethings.

in ravno to obožujem pri delu z dvajset-in-nekaj-letniki.

They are so easy to help.

Tako lahko jim je pomagati.

Twentysomethings are like airplanes just leaving LAX,

Dvajset-in-nekaj-letniki so kot letala, ki ravno zapuščajo letališče v Los Angelesu,

bound for somewhere west.

namenjena nekam na zahod.

Right after takeoff, a slight change in course

Takoj po vzletu majhna sprememba smeri

is the difference between landing in Alaska or Fiji.

pomeni razliko med pristankom na Aljaski ali Fidžiju.

Likewise, at 21 or 25 or even 29,

Podobno lahko ima pri 21. ali 25. ali celo 29.

one good conversation, one good break,

en dober pogovor, en dober odmor,

one good TED Talk, can have an enormous effect

en dober TED govor ogromen učinek

across years and even generations to come.

na leta ali celo generacije, ki šele pridejo.

So here's an idea worth spreading

Tukaj je torej ideja vredna širjenja

to every twentysomething you know.

vsakemu dvajset-in-nekaj-letniku, ki ga poznate.

It's as simple as what I learned to say to Alex.

Je preprosto kot tisto, kar sem se naučila reči Alex.

It's what I now have the privilege

Je tisto, kar imam privilegij

of saying to twentysomethings like Emma every single day:

reči dvajset-in-nekaj-letnikom, kot je Emma, vsak dan:

Thirty is not the new 20, so claim your adulthood,

Trideseta niso nova dvajseta, zato si prilastite svojo odraslost,

get some identity capital, use your weak ties,

pridobite nekaj identitetnega kapitala, uporabite svoje šibke vezi,

pick your family.

izberite si družino.

Don't be defined by what you didn't know

Naj vas ne opredeli tisto, česar niste vedeli

or didn't do.

ali niste naredili.

O svojem življenju odločate ta trenutek.

You're deciding your life right now.

Thank you.

Hvala.

(Applause)

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