Steve Silberman: The forgotten history of autism

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Translator: Aida Zečkanović Reviewer: Nika Kotnik
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Just after Christmas last year,
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Lani po božiču
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132 kids in California got the measles
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je 132 otrok v Kaliforniji zbolelo za ošpicami,
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by either visiting Disneyland
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po tem ko so obiskali Disneyland
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or being exposed to someone who'd been there.
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ali bili v stiku s kom, ki je bil tam.
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The virus then hopped the Canadian border,
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Virus je prečkal kanadsko mejo
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infecting more than 100 children in Quebec.
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in okužil več kot 100 otrok v Quebecu.
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One of the tragic things about this outbreak
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Eno izmed tragičnih dejstev o tem izbruhu je,
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is that measles, which can be fatal to a child with a weakened immune system,
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da so ošpice, ki so lahko smrtonosne za otroke z oslabelim imunskim sistemom,
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is one of the most easily preventable diseases in the world.
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ena izmed najlažje preprečljivih bolezni na svetu.
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An effective vaccine against it
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Učinkovito cepivo za ošpice
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has been available for more than half a century,
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poznamo že več kot pol stoletja,
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but many of the kids involved in the Disneyland outbreak
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ampak otroci, ki so zboleli med izbruhom v Disneylandu,
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had not been vaccinated
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niso bili cepljeni,
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because their parents were afraid
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ker so se njihovi starši bali
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of something allegedly even worse:
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domnevno se strašnejše bolezni:
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autism.
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avtizma.
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But wait -- wasn't the paper that sparked the controversy
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Ampak... Ali ni bil članek, ki je sprožil polemike
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about autism and vaccines
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o avtizmu in cepivih
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debunked, retracted,
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ovržen, preklican
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and branded a deliberate fraud
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in označen za namerno prevaro
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by the British Medical Journal?
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v Britanski Medicinski reviji?
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Don't most science-savvy people
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Ali večina znanstveno osveščenih ljudi
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know that the theory that vaccines cause autism is B.S.?
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ne ve, da je teorija o cepivih, ki povzročajo avtizem bedarija?
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I think most of you do,
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Mislim, da večina izmed vas to ve,
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but millions of parents worldwide
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ampak milijone staršev po svetu
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continue to fear that vaccines put their kids at risk for autism.
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je še strah, da bodo zaradi cepiv njihovi otroci zboleli z avtizmom.
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Why?
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Zakaj?
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Here's why.
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Zato.
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This is a graph of autism prevalence estimates rising over time.
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Ta graf prikazuje višanje prevalence avtizma skozi čas.
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For most of the 20th century,
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autism was considered an incredibly rare condition.
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je avtizem veljal za izredno redko bolezen.
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The few psychologists and pediatricians who'd even heard of it
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Redki psihologi in pediatri, ki so sploh slišali zanjo,
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figured they would get through their entire careers
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so menili, da v svoji celotni karieri
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without seeing a single case.
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ne bodo videli niti enega samega primera.
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For decades, the prevalence estimates remained stable
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Desetletja je bila prevalenca ocenjena
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at just three or four children in 10,000.
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na tri ali štiri otroke na 10 000.
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But then, in the 1990s,
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Ampak v 90. letih prejšnjega stoletja
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the numbers started to skyrocket.
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je ta številka naglo porasla.
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Fundraising organizations like Autism Speaks
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Dobrodelne organizacije kot Autism Speaks (Avtizem Govori)
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routinely refer to autism as an epidemic,
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o avtizmu vedno znova govorijo kot o epidemiji,
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as if you could catch it from another kid at Disneyland.
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kakor da se ga lahko nalezeš od drugega otroka v Disenylandu.
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So what's going on?
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Kaj se torej dogaja?
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If it isn't vaccines, what is it?
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Če niso kriva cepiva, kaj je?
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If you ask the folks down at the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta
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Če vprašate ljudi v Centru za obvladovanje bolezni (COB) v Atlanti,
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what's going on,
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kaj se dogaja,
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they tend to rely on phrases like "broadened diagnostic criteria"
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se zanašajo na fraze kot: "razširjeni diagnostični kriteriji"
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and "better case finding"
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in "učinkovitejše odkrivanje primerov"
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to explain these rising numbers.
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za pojasnjevanje porasta v številu avtističnih otrok.
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But that kind of language
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Ampak takšni odgovori
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doesn't do much to allay the fears of a young mother
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ne pomirijo strahu mlade matere,
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who is searching her two-year-old's face for eye contact.
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ki se neuspešno trudi vzpostaviti očesni stik s svojim dveletnikom.
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If the diagnostic criteria had to be broadened,
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Če smo morali razširiti diagnostične kriterije,
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why were they so narrow in the first place?
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zakaj so bili prej tako ozki?
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Why were cases of autism so hard to find
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Zakaj je tako težko najti opise primerov avtizma
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before the 1990s?
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pred 90. leti 20. stoletja?
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Five years ago, I decided to try to uncover the answers to these questions.
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Pred petimi leti sem se odločil, da bom našel odgovore na ta vprašanja.
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I learned that what happened
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Ugotovil sem, da to kar se je zgodilo,
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has less to do with the slow and cautious progress of science
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ni toliko povezano s počasnim in previdnim napredkom znanosti,
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than it does with the seductive power of storytelling.
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pač pa z močjo zapeljive pripovedi.
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For most of the 20th century,
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Tekom 20. stoletja
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clinicians told one story
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so kliniki pripovedovali le eno zgodbo,
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about what autism is and how it was discovered,
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o tem kaj avtizem je in kako so ga odkrili.
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but that story turned out to be wrong,
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Ampak ta zgodba se je izkazala za napačno
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and the consequences of it
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in posledice te napake
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are having a devastating impact on global public health.
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imajo poguben vpliv na svetovno javno zdravje.
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There was a second, more accurate story of autism
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Obstaja še druga, bolj pravilna zgodba o avtizmu,
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which had been lost and forgotten
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ki je bila izgubljena in pozabljena
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in obscure corners of the clinical literature.
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v temnih kotičkih medicinske literature.
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This second story tells us everything about how we got here
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Ta druga zgodba nam govori o tem, kako smo prisli do sem
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and where we need to go next.
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in k čemur moramo stremeti v prihodnosti.
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The first story starts with a child psychiatrist at Johns Hopkins Hospital
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Prva zgodba se začne s pediatričnim psihiatrom v bolnisnici Johna Hopkinsa
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named Leo Kanner.
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z imenom Leo Kanner.
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In 1943, Kanner published a paper
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Leta 1943 je Kanner objavil članek,
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describing 11 young patients who seemed to inhabit private worlds,
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v katerem je opisal 11 mladih pacientov, ki so navidez živeli v lastnem svetu
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ignoring the people around them,
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in ignorirali ljudi okoli sebe,
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even their own parents.
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celo lastne starše.
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They could amuse themselves for hours
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Cele ure so se lahko zabavali,
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by flapping their hands in front of their faces,
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tako da so si z rokami mahali pred obrazi.
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but they were panicked by little things
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Ampak zlahka jih je zajela panika,
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like their favorite toy being moved from its usual place
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na primer če so prestavili njihovo najljubšo igračko,
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without their knowledge.
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ne da bi jim povedali.
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Based on the patients who were brought to his clinic,
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Glede na paciente, ki so prihajali v njegovo kliniko,
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Kanner speculated that autism is very rare.
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je Kanner predvideval, da je avtizem zelo redek.
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By the 1950s, as the world's leading authority on the subject,
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V 50. letih je kot vodilni svetovni strokovnjak na tem področju,
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he declared that he had seen less than 150 true cases of his syndrome
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naznanil, da je videl manj kot 150 primerov pravega avtizma,
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while fielding referrals from as far away as South Africa.
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čeprav so k njemu pošiljali otroke od vsepovsod, celo iz Južnoafriške Republike.
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That's actually not surprising,
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To pravzaprav ni presenetljivo,
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because Kanner's criteria for diagnosing autism
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saj so bili Kannerjevi diagnosticni kriteriji za avtizem
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were incredibly selective.
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izredno selektivni.
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For example, he discouraged giving the diagnosis to children who had seizures
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Otrokom, ki so imeli epileptične napade, je nerad postavil diagnozo avtizma,
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but now we know that epilepsy is very common in autism.
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čeprav danes vemo, da je epilepsija zelo pogosta pri avtističnih pacientih.
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He once bragged that he had turned nine out of 10 kids
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Nekoč se je pohvalil, da je 9 izmed 10 otrok,
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referred to his office as autistic by other clinicians
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ki so jih k njemu napotili drugi zdravniki,
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without giving them an autism diagnosis.
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odpravil brez da bi jim diagnosticiral avtizem.
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Kanner was a smart guy,
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Kanner je bil pameten moški,
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but a number of his theories didn't pan out.
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a veliko njegovih teorij je bilo napačnih.
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He classified autism as a form of infantile psychosis
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Avtizem je klasificiral kot obliko otroške psihoze,
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caused by cold and unaffectionate parents.
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ki naj bi jo povzročili hladni in neljubeči starši.
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These children, he said,
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Rekel je, da so te otroke
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had been kept neatly in a refrigerator that didn't defrost.
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vzgajali v "hladilniku, ki ga niso nikoli odtalili."
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At the same time, however,
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Istočasno pa je
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Kanner noticed that some of his young patients
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Kanner opazil, da imajo nekateri njegovi mlajši pacienti,
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had special abilities that clustered in certain areas
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posebne sposobnosti na določenih podrocjih
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like music, math and memory.
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kot so glasba, matematika in spomin.
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One boy in his clinic
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En deček v njegovi kliniki
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could distinguish between 18 symphonies before he turned two.
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je razločil med 18 različnimi simfonijami, preden je dopolnil dve leti.
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When his mother put on one of his favorite records,
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Ko je mama zavrtela njegovo priljubljeno ploščo,
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he would correctly declare, "Beethoven!"
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je pravilno oznanil: "Beethoven!"
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But Kanner took a dim view of these abilities,
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A Kanner teh sposobnosti ni odobraval
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claiming that the kids were just regurgitating things
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in je trdil, da otroci le ponavljajo reči,
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they'd heard their pompous parents say,
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ki so jih slišali od svojih domišljavih staršev,
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desperate to earn their approval.
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saj si želijo njihovega odobravanja.
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As a result, autism became a source of shame and stigma for families,
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Posledično je avtizem postal vir sramote in stigme za družine
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and two generations of autistic children
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in dve generaciji avtističnih otrok,
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were shipped off to institutions for their own good,
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ki so jih poslali v institucije "v njihovo lastno dobro,"
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becoming invisible to the world at large.
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sta postali nevidni za svet.
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Amazingly, it wasn't until the 1970s
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Presenetljivo, so šele v 70. letih 20. stoletja
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that researchers began to test Kanner's theory that autism was rare.
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raziskovalci pričeli preverjati Kannerjevo teorijo, da je avtizem redek.
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Lorna Wing was a cognitive psychologist in London
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Lorna Wing je bila kognitivna psihologinja v Londonu
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who thought that Kanner's theory of refrigerator parenting
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in je menila, da je Kannerjeva teorija o "hladni vzgoji"
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were "bloody stupid," as she told me.
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izredno neumna.
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She and her husband John were warm and affectionate people,
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Z možem Johnom sta bila topla, ljubeča človeka
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and they had a profoundly autistic daughter named Susie.
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in sta kljub temu imela hudo avtistično hčer Susie.
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Lorna and John knew how hard it was to raise a child like Susie
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Lorna in John sta vedela, kako težko je vzgajati otroka kot je Susie
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without support services,
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brez podpornih služb,
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special education,
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posebne izobrazbe
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and the other resources that are out of reach without a diagnosis.
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in ostalih sredstev, do katerih nimaš dostopa brez postavljene diagnoze.
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To make the case to the National Health Service
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Da bi lahko Nacionalno zdravstveno sluzbo zaprosili
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that more resources were needed for autistic children and their families,
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za več sredstev za avtistične otroke in njihove družine,
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Lorna and her colleague Judith Gould
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sta se Lorna in njena sodelavka Judith Gould
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decided to do something that should have been done 30 years earlier.
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odločili, da bosta storili nekaj, kar bi moralo biti narejeno pred 30 leti.
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They undertook a study of autism prevalence in the general population.
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Izvedli sta študijo o pogostosti avtizma v splošni populaciji.
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They pounded the pavement in a London suburb called Camberwell
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Preučevali sta Londonsko predmestje Camberwell
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to try to find autistic children in the community.
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in iskali avtistične otroke v skupnosti.
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What they saw made clear that Kanner's model was way too narrow,
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Njune ugotovitve, so jasno pokazale, da je Kannerjev model preozek,
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while the reality of autism was much more colorful and diverse.
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saj je avtizem v resnici zelo pester in raznolik.
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Some kids couldn't talk at all,
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Nekateri otroci sploh niso mogli govoriti,
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while others waxed on at length about their fascination with astrophysics,
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medtem ko so drugi neprestano govorili o svoji prevzetosti z astrofiziko,
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dinosaurs or the genealogy of royalty.
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dinozavri ali genealogijo kraljevih družin.
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In other words, these children didn't fit into nice, neat boxes,
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Ali drugače povedano, teh otrok se ni dalo enostavno popredalčkati,
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as Judith put it,
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kot se je izrazila Judith.
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and they saw lots of them,
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In videli sta mnogo teh otrok,
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way more than Kanner's monolithic model would have predicted.
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veliko več kot je predvideval Kannerjev monolitični model.
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At first, they were at a loss to make sense of their data.
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Sprva so ju njune najdbe zelo zmedle.
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How had no one noticed these children before?
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Kako da teh otrok ni nihče opazili že prej?
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But then Lorna came upon a reference to a paper that had been published
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Potem pa je Lorna odkrila članek, ki je bil obavljen
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in German in 1944,
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v Nemčiji leta 1944,
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the year after Kanner's paper,
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le leto po objavi Kannerjevega članka,
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and then forgotten,
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in bil nato pozabljen,
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buried with the ashes of a terrible time
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pokopan v pepelu grozovitih časov,
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that no one wanted to remember or think about.
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ki se jih nihče ni želel spominjati ali misliti nanje.
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Kanner knew about this competing paper,
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Kanner je poznal članek svojega tekmeca,
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but scrupulously avoided mentioning it in his own work.
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ampak ga namerno ni omenjal v svojih lastnih publikacijah.
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It had never even been translated into English,
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Članka niso nikoli niti prevedli v angleščino,
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but luckily, Lorna's husband spoke German,
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ampak na srečo je Lornin mož govoril nemško
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and he translated it for her.
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in ga je prevedel zanjo.
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The paper offered an alternate story of autism.
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Članek je vseboval alternativno zgodbo o avtizmu.
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Its author was a man named Hans Asperger,
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Avtor je bil Hans Asperger,
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who ran a combination clinic and residential school
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ki je vodil kombinirano kliniko in internatsko šolo
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in Vienna in the 1930s.
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na Dunaju v 30. letih 20. stoletja.
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Asperger's ideas about teaching children with learning differences
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Aspergerjeve ideje o poučevanju otrok s posebnimi potrebami
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were progressive even by contemporary standards.
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so bile progresivne celo po današnjih standardih.
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Mornings at his clinic began with exercise classes set to music,
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Jutra so se v njegovi kliniki začenjala s telovadbo ob glasbi,
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and the children put on plays on Sunday afternoons.
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ob nedeljskih popoldnevih pa so otroci uprizarjali gledališke predstave.
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Instead of blaming parents for causing autism,
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Namesto, da bi za razvoj avtizma obtoževal starše,
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Asperger framed it as a lifelong, polygenetic disability
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ga je Asperger označil za doživljenjsko poligensko obolenje,
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that requires compassionate forms of support and accommodations
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ki zahteva sočutno podporo in prilagajanje
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over the course of one's whole life.
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tekom celotnega življenja.
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Rather than treating the kids in his clinic like patients,
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Otrok v svoji kliniki ni obravnaval kot paciente,
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Asperger called them his little professors,
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pač pa jih je klical "moji mali profesorji"
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and enlisted their help in developing methods of education
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in z njihovo pomočjo razvijal nove metode poučevanja,
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that were particularly suited to them.
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ki so bile prilagojene zanje.
09:22
Crucially, Asperger viewed autism as a diverse continuum
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Ključno je, da je Asperger avtizem videl kot raznolik spekter,
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that spans an astonishing range of giftedness and disability.
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ki vključuje izredno velik razpon nadarjenosti in nezmožnosti.
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He believed that autism and autistic traits are common
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Verjel je, da so avtizem in avtistične značilnosti pogoste
09:37
and always have been,
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in so tudi vedno bile,
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seeing aspects of this continuum in familiar archetypes from pop culture
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saj je te značilnosti prepoznal v znanih arhetipih iz pop kulture,
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like the socially awkward scientist
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npr. arhetip družabno nespretnega znanstvenika
09:46
and the absent-minded professor.
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in zmedenega profesorja.
09:49
He went so far as to say,
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Šel je celo tako daleč, da je trdil,
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it seems that for success in science and art,
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da je za uspeh v znanosti in umetnosti
09:54
a dash of autism is essential.
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potreben kanček avtizma.
09:58
Lorna and Judith realized that Kanner had been as wrong about autism being rare
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Lorna in Judith sta spoznali, da se je Kanner motil tako o pogostosti avtizma,
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as he had been about parents causing it.
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kakor tudi o njegovem vzroku.
10:05
Over the next several years,
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V naslednjih letih
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they quietly worked with the American Psychiatric Association
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sta na skrivaj sodelovali z Ameriško psihiatrično asociacijo,
10:11
to broaden the criteria for diagnosis
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da bi razširili kriterije za diagnozo,
10:13
to reflect the diversity of what they called "the autism spectrum."
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tako da bi odražali raznovrstnost tega, čemur danes pravimo "avtistični spekter."
10:17
In the late '80s and early 1990s,
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V poznih 80. in zgodnjih 90. 20. stoletja
10:20
their changes went into effect,
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so njune spremembe postale veljavne
10:22
swapping out Kanner's narrow model
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in so zamenjale Kannerjev ozek model,
10:25
for Asperger's broad and inclusive one.
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z Aspergerjevim širokim in vključujočim.
10:28
These changes weren't happening in a vacuum.
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A te spremembe se niso dogajale v vakumu.
10:31
By coincidence, as Lorna and Judith worked behind the scenes
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Po naključju so takrat, ko sta Lorna in Judith v zakulisju
10:35
to reform the criteria,
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izboljševali kriterije,
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people all over the world were seeing an autistic adult for the first time.
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ljudje po celem svetu prvič videli avtistično odraslo osebo.
10:42
Before "Rain Man" came out in 1988,
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Pred izidom filma Deževni mož leta 1988,
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only a tiny, ingrown circle of experts knew what autism looked like,
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je samo majhen krog strokovnjakov vedel, kako avtizem izgleda.
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but after Dustin Hoffman's unforgettable performance as Raymond Babbitt
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Po nepozabnem nastopu Dustina Hoffmana v vlogi Raymonda Babbitta,
10:54
earned "Rain Man" four Academy Awards,
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ki je filmu prislužil štiri Oskarje,
10:58
pediatricians, psychologists,
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so pediatri, psihologi,
11:00
teachers and parents all over the world knew what autism looked like.
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učitelji in starši po vsem svetu vedeli kako izgleda avtizem.
11:05
Coincidentally, at the same time,
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Po naključju so istočasno
11:08
the first easy-to-use clinical tests for diagnosing autism were introduced.
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uvedli tudi prve preproste klinične teste za diagnostiko avtizma.
11:13
You no longer had to have a connection to that tiny circle of experts
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Ni bilo več potrebno biti povezan z majhnim krogom strokovnjakov za avtizem,
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to get your child evaluated.
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da bi bil tvoj otrok pregledan.
11:21
The combination of "Rain Man,"
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Kombinacija Deževnega moža,
11:23
the changes to the criteria, and the introduction of these tests
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spremenjenih kriterijev in uvedbe novih testov
11:27
created a network effect,
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je povzročila efekt snežne krogle
11:29
a perfect storm of autism awareness.
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in velik porast ozaveščenosti o avtizmu.
11:33
The number of diagnoses started to soar,
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Število diagnoz je sunkovito poraslo,
11:36
just as Lorna and Judith predicted, indeed hoped, that it would,
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kakor sta Lorna in Judith predvideli in upali,
11:41
enabling autistic people and their families
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in omogočilo avtistom in njihovim družinam
11:44
to finally get the support and services they deserved.
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dostop do sredstev in podpore, ki so jo zaslužili.
11:47
Then Andrew Wakefield came along
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Nato pa se je pojavil Andrew Wakefield
11:49
to blame the spike in diagnoses on vaccines,
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in za porast v številu diagnoz okrivil cepiva.
11:53
a simple, powerful,
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Njegova zgodba je preprosta, vplivna
11:55
and seductively believable story
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in zapeljivo prepričljiva,
11:58
that was as wrong as Kanner's theory
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vendar zmotna, tako kot Kannerjeva teorija,
12:00
that autism was rare.
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da je avtizem redek.
12:03
If the CDC's current estimate,
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Če je COB-jeva ocena,
12:06
that one in 68 kids in America are on the spectrum, is correct,
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da ima eden na 68 ameriških otrok motnjo avtističnega spektra, pravilna,
12:11
autistics are one of the largest minority groups in the world.
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potem so avtistični ljudje ena izmed največjih svetovnih manjšin.
12:15
In recent years, autistic people have come together on the Internet
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V zadnjih letih so se avtistični ljudje povezali preko interneta,
12:19
to reject the notion that they are puzzles to be solved
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da bi oporekali predstavi, da so uganke, ki jih moramo rešiti
12:22
by the next medical breakthrough,
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z novim medicinskim prebojem.
12:24
coining the term "neurodiversity"
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Skovali so pojem "nevro-raznolikost,"
12:27
to celebrate the varieties of human cognition.
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da bi proslavili pestrost človeške kognicije.
12:31
One way to understand neurodiversity
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Nevro-raznolikost si lahko predstavljamo kot
12:33
is to think in terms of human operating systems.
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človeške operacijske sisteme.
12:37
Just because a P.C. is not running Windows doesn't mean that it's broken.
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Če naš računalnik ne uporablja OS Windows, še ne pomeni, da je pokvarjen.
12:42
By autistic standards, the normal human brain
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Z avtističnega stališča so normalni človeški možgani
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is easily distractable,
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zlahka odvrnljivi,
12:47
obsessively social,
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pretirano socialno usmerjeni
12:49
and suffers from a deficit of attention to detail.
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in premalo pozorni na podrobnosti.
12:52
To be sure, autistic people have a hard time
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Seveda je avtističnim ljudem težko
12:55
living in a world not built for them.
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živeti na svetu, ki ni prilagojen zanje.
12:58
[Seventy] years later, we're still catching up to Asperger,
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Sedemdeset let po njegovem članku, še vedno nismo na isti ravni kot Asperger,
13:02
who believed that the "cure" for the most disabling aspects of autism
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ki je verjel, da so "zdravilo" za še tako onesposabljajoče vidike avtizma
13:06
is to be found in understanding teachers,
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razumevajoči učitelji,
13:09
accommodating employers,
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prilagodljivi delodajalci,
13:11
supportive communities,
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podpirajoče skupnosti
13:13
and parents who have faith in their children's potential.
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in starši, ki verjamejo v otrokov potencial.
13:16
An autistic [man] named Zosia Zaks once said,
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Avtistična ženska Zosia Zaks, je nekoč rekla:
13:19
"We need all hands on deck to right the ship of humanity."
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"Vsi moramo sodelovati pri obračanju ladje človeštva v pravo smer."
13:25
As we sail into an uncertain future,
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Ko plovemo v neznano prihodnost,
13:27
we need every form of human intelligence on the planet
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morajo vse oblike inteligence na tem planetu
13:31
working together to tackle the challenges that we face as a society.
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sodelovati pri spoprijemanju z izzivi, s katerimi se sooča naša družba.
13:37
We can't afford to waste a brain.
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Vsi možgani so za nas nepogrešljivi.
13:39
Thank you.
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Hvala
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(Applause)
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