Siegfried Woldhek: The true face of Leonardo Da Vinci?

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μ•„λž˜ μ˜λ¬Έμžλ§‰μ„ λ”λΈ”ν΄λ¦­ν•˜μ‹œλ©΄ μ˜μƒμ΄ μž¬μƒλ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ²ˆμ—­: Kwonho Nam κ²€ν† : Seyoung Yoon
00:12
Good morning.
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μ•ˆλ…•ν•˜μ‹­λ‹ˆκΉŒ?
00:14
Let's look for a minute at the greatest icon of all, Leonardo da Vinci.
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역사상 κ°€μž₯ μœ„λŒ€ν•œ μš°μƒ 쀑 ν•œ λͺ…인 λ ˆμ˜€λ‚˜λ₯΄λ„ λ‹€λΉˆμΉ˜μ— λŒ€ν•˜μ—¬ μž μ‹œ μ‚΄νŽ΄λ³΄λ„λ‘ ν•˜κ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:19
We're all familiar with his fantastic work --
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우리 λͺ¨λ‘λŠ” 그의 ν›Œλ₯­ν•œ 업적에 λŒ€ν•΄ 잘 μ•Œκ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:22
his drawings, his paintings, his inventions, his writings.
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그의 데생, νšŒν™”, 발λͺ…ν’ˆ, 그리고 κΈ€λ“€.
00:25
But we do not know his face.
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 그의 얼꡴을 λͺ¨λ¦…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:27
Thousands of books have been written about him,
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그에 λŒ€ν•œ μˆ˜λ§Žμ€ 책듀이 μžˆμ§€λ§Œ,
00:30
but there's controversy, and it remains, about his looks.
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그의 μƒκΉ€μƒˆμ— λŒ€ν•΄μ„œλŠ” μ•„μ§κΉŒμ§€λ„ λ…Όλž€μ΄ 남아 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:34
Even this well-known portrait is not accepted by many art historians.
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심지어 이 유λͺ…ν•œ μ΄ˆμƒν™”λ§ˆμ €λ„ λ‹€μˆ˜μ˜ 예술 μ—­μ‚¬ν•™μžλ“€μ€ λ ˆμ˜€λ‚˜λ₯΄λ„ λ‹€λΉˆμΉ˜μ˜ 얼꡴이 μ•„λ‹ˆλΌκ³  ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:39
So, what do you think?
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μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ€ μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ μƒκ°ν•˜μ‹­λ‹ˆκΉŒ?
00:41
Is this the face of Leonardo da Vinci or isn't it?
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이것이 λ ˆμ˜€λ‚˜λ₯΄λ„ λ‹€λΉˆμΉ˜μ˜ μ–Όκ΅΄μΌκΉŒμš”? ν˜Ήμ€ μ•„λ‹κΉŒμš”?
00:44
Let's find out.
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ν•¨κ»˜ μ•Œμ•„λ³΄λ„λ‘ ν•˜μ£ .
00:47
Leonardo was a man that drew everything around him.
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λ‹€λΉˆμΉ˜λŠ” κ·Έ μ£Όμœ„μ˜ λͺ¨λ“  것을 그렸던 μ‚¬λžŒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:50
He drew people, anatomy, plants, animals, landscapes, buildings, water, everything.
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μ‚¬λžŒ, 해뢀도, 식물, 동물, 풍경, 건좕물, λ¬Ό λ“± λ³΄μ΄λŠ” λͺ¨λ“  것을 κ·Έλ Έμ—ˆμ£ .
00:58
But no faces?
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그런데 μ–Όκ΅΄λ§ŒνΌμ€ μ˜ˆμ™Έμ˜€μ„κΉŒμš”?
01:00
I find that hard to believe.
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μ €λ‘œμ„  κ·Έκ±Έ λ‚©λ“ν•˜κΈ°κ°€ μ–΄λ ΅λ”κ΅°μš”.
01:02
His contemporaries made faces, like the ones you see here --
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그와 λ™μ‹œλŒ€μ— μ‚΄μ•˜λ˜ λ‹€λ₯Έ 화가듀은 μ—¬κΈ° λ³΄μ‹œλŠ” κ²ƒμ²˜λŸΌ 얼꡴을 κ·Έλ Έμ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:05
en face or three-quarters.
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μ •λ©΄ 그리고 7λΆ„μ‹  μ΄ˆμƒν™”λ„ 있죠.
01:07
So, surely a passionate drawer like Leonardo
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이 사싀과 ν•¨κ»˜ λ‹€λΉˆμΉ˜κ°€ 맀우 열정적인 ν™”κ°€μ˜€λ‹€λŠ” 점을 κ³ λ €ν•˜λ©΄
01:10
must have made self-portraits from time to time.
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λ‹€λΉˆμΉ˜λŠ” λΆ„λͺ…νžˆ μžμ‹ μ˜ μ΄ˆμƒν™”λ₯Ό μ’…μ’… 그렸을 κ²λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:14
So let's try to find them.
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이제 그럼 κ·Έ μ΄ˆμƒν™”λ“€μ„ μ°Ύμ•„λ΄…μ‹œλ‹€.
01:16
I think that if we were to scan all of his work
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λ§Œμ•½ 그의 μž‘ν’ˆλ“€μ„ λͺ¨λ‘ μ‚΄νŽ΄λ΄μ„œ
01:19
and look for self-portraits, we would find his face looking at us.
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μžν™”μƒμ΄ λ λ§Œν•œ κ²ƒλ“€λ§Œ 뽑아낸닀면 그의 얼꡴을 λ°œκ²¬ν•  수 μžˆμ„μ§€λ„ λͺ¨λ¦…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:23
So I looked at all of his drawings, more than 700,
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ €λŠ” 700κ°œκ°€ λ„˜λŠ” 그의 μž‘ν’ˆλ“€ μ€‘μ—μ„œ
01:27
and looked for male portraits.
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남성 μ΄ˆμƒν™”λ“€λ§Œ λ¨Όμ € μ°Ύμ•„λƒˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:30
There are about 120, you see them here.
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μ—¬κΈ° λ³΄μ‹œλŠ” 바와 같이 120개 정도가 λ‚˜μ™”μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:33
Which ones of these could be self-portraits?
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이듀 쀑에 μ–΄λŠ 것듀이 λ‹€λΉˆμΉ˜μ˜ μžν™”μƒμΌκΉŒμš”?
01:35
Well, for that they have to be done as we just saw, en face or three-quarters.
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일단 μ’€ 전에 봀던 κ²ƒμ²˜λŸΌ μ •λ©΄ λ˜λŠ” 7λΆ„μ‹  μ΄ˆμƒν™”μ΄μ–΄μ•Όλ§Œ ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:40
So we can eliminate all the profiles.
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λ”°λΌμ„œ μ˜†λ©΄ μ΄ˆμƒν™”λŠ” λͺ¨λ‘ μ œμ™Έν•  수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:43
It also has to be sufficiently detailed.
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그리고 μΆ©λΆ„νžˆ μƒμ„Έν•˜κ²Œ κ·Έλ €μ Έμžˆμ–΄μ•Ό ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:45
So we can also eliminate the ones that are very vague or very stylized.
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κ·ΈλŸ¬λ―€λ‘œ λΆˆλΆ„λͺ…ν•˜κ±°λ‚˜ μ§€λ‚˜μΉ˜κ²Œ μ–‘μ‹ν™”λœ κ·Έλ¦Όλ“€ μ—­μ‹œ λ°°μ œν•  수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:51
And we know from his contemporaries
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그리고 λ‹Ήμ‹œ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ— μ˜ν•˜λ©΄
01:53
that Leonardo was a very handsome, even beautiful man.
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λ‹€λΉˆμΉ˜λŠ” 맀우 잘 생기고 μ•„λ¦„λ‹€μš΄ λ‚¨μžμ˜€μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:56
So we can also eliminate the ugly ones or the caricatures.
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κ·ΈλŸ¬λ―€λ‘œ μΆ”ν•œ μ–Όκ΅΄λ“€ λ˜λŠ” ν’μžν™”λ“€ λ˜ν•œ κ±ΈλŸ¬λ‚Ό 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:00
(Laughter)
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(μ›ƒμŒ)
02:01
And look what happens -- only three candidates remain that fit the bill.
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μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ λ˜μ—ˆλ‚˜ λ³΄μ‹œμ£ . 쑰건을 μΆ©μ‘±ν•˜λŠ” 3개의 ν›„λ³΄λ§Œμ΄ λ‚¨μ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:06
And here they are.
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μ—¬κΈ° λ³΄μ‹œλŠ” 바와 κ°™μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:08
Yes, indeed, the old man is there,
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μ•„κΉŒ 봀던 λ…ΈμΈμ˜ μ΄ˆμƒν™”λ„ 포함돼 있고
02:10
as is this famous pen drawing of the Homo Vitruvianus.
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λ‹€λΉˆμΉ˜μ˜ 유λͺ…ν•œ 펜 그림인 λΉ„νŠΈλ£¨λΉ„μ•ˆ 맨도 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:13
And lastly, the only portrait of a male that Leonardo painted, "The Musician."
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λ§ˆμ§€λ§‰μœΌλ‘œλŠ” λ‹€λΉˆμΉ˜κ°€ κ·Έλ¦° μœ μΌν•œ λ‚¨μž μ΄ˆμƒν™”μΈ 'μŒμ•…κ°€'도 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:18
Before we go into these faces,
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각각의 얼꡴을 μ‚΄νŽ΄λ³΄κΈ° 전에,
02:20
I should explain why I have some right to talk about them.
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μ™œ μ œκ°€ 이 μ£Όμ œμ— λŒ€ν•΄ λ…Όν•  자격이 μžˆλŠ”μ§€λ₯Ό λ¨Όμ € μ„€λͺ…ν•΄μ•Ό ν•  것 κ°™κ΅°μš”.
02:23
I've made more than 1,100 portraits myself
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μ§€κΈˆκΉŒμ§€ μ œκ°€ 신문에 싀은 μ΄ˆμƒν™”λŠ” 1,100 μž‘ν’ˆμ΄ λ„˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:27
for newspapers, over the course of 300 -- 30 years, sorry, 30 years only.
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μ§€λ‚œ 300, μ•„λ‹ˆ 30λ…„ λ™μ•ˆ - μ£„μ†‘ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ§€λ‚œ 30λ…„ λ™μ•ˆλ§Œ 신문에 μ΄ˆμƒν™”λ₯Ό μ‹€μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:31
(Laughter)
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(μ›ƒμŒ)
02:32
But there are 1,100, and very few artists have drawn so many faces.
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μ΄λ ‡κ²Œ λ§Žμ€ 얼꡴듀을 κ·Έλ¦° ν™”κ°€λŠ” 거의 μ—†μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:37
So I know a little about drawing and analyzing faces.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ κ²½ν—˜μƒ μ €λŠ” 얼꡴을 그리고 λΆ„μ„ν•˜λŠ” 것에 λŒ€ν•΄ μ‘°κΈˆμ€ μ•Œκ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:40
OK, now let's look at these three portraits.
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본둠으둜 λŒμ•„μ™€ 이제 이 μ„Έ 개의 μ΄ˆμƒν™”λ₯Ό ν•œ 번 μ‚΄νŽ΄λ³΄κ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:43
And hold onto your seats, because if we zoom in on those faces,
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λ„ˆλ¬΄ 놀라지 λ§ˆμ„Έμš”. ν™•λŒ€ν•΄λ³΄λ©΄ μ„Έ 얼꡴은 λͺ¨λ‘ ν•˜λ‚˜κ°™μ΄
02:46
remark how they have the same broad forehead, the horizontal eyebrows,
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넓은 이마, μ˜†μœΌλ‘œ λ°˜λ“―μ΄ λˆ„μš΄ 눈썹, κΈ΄ μ½”, 곑선을 κ·Έλ¦¬λŠ” μž…μˆ , 그리고
02:50
the long nose, the curved lips and the small, well-developed chin.
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μž‘μ§€λ§Œ 잘 λ°œλ‹¬λœ 턱을 가지고 μžˆλŠ” 것을 μ•Œ 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:53
I couldn't believe my eyes when I first saw that.
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이걸 처음 봀을 λ•Œ μ €λŠ” 제 λˆˆμ„ μ˜μ‹¬ν•  수 밖에 μ—†μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:56
There is no reason why these portraits should look alike.
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이 μ„Έ 개의 μ΄ˆμƒν™”κ°€ μ„œλ‘œ λΉ„μŠ·ν•΄μ•Όν•  μ΄μœ λŠ” μ „ν˜€ μ—†μ—ˆκΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμ΄μ£ .
02:58
All we did was look for portraits that had the characteristics of a self-portrait,
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μžν™”μƒμ˜ νŠΉμ„±μ„ 가진 μ΄ˆμƒν™”λ“€μ„ μ°Ύμ•˜μ„ 뿐인데 λ†€λžκ²Œλ„ μž‘ν’ˆ 속 얼꡴듀은
03:02
and look, they are very similar.
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맀우 λΉ„μŠ·ν–ˆλ‹€λŠ”κ²λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:04
Now, are they made in the right order?
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μž‘ν’ˆ μ™„μ„± μˆœμ„œλŠ” μ–΄λ–€κ°€μš”?
03:07
The young man should be made first.
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μš°μ„  이 μ Šμ€ λ‚¨μžκ°€ 첫번째둜 완성됐어야 ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:09
And as you see here from the years that they were created,
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μ—¬κΈ° μž‘ν’ˆμ΄ μ™„μ„±λœ μ—°λ„λ‘œλΆ€ν„° μ•Œ 수 μžˆλ“―μ΄
03:11
it is indeed the case.
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μ‹€μ œλ‘œλ„ κ·Έλ ‡μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:13
They are made in the right order.
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이 μž‘ν’ˆλ“€μ€ μ˜³μ€ μˆœμ„œλŒ€λ‘œ μ™„μ„±λœ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:15
What was the age of Leonardo at the time? Does that fit?
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κ·Έ λ‹Ήμ‹œμ— λ‹€λΉˆμΉ˜λŠ” λͺ‡ μ‚΄μ΄μ—ˆμ„κΉŒμš”? 그것도 κ³Όμ—° μΌμΉ˜ν•˜λ‚˜μš”?
03:17
Yes, it does. He was 33, 38 and 63 when these were made.
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예, κ·Έλ ‡μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 이 μ΄ˆμƒν™”λ“€μ΄ κ·Έλ €μ‘Œμ„ λ‹Ήμ‹œμ— κ·ΈλŠ” 각각 33, 38, 63μ‚΄ μ΄μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:20
So we have three pictures, potentially of the same person
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μ •λ¦¬ν•˜μžλ©΄ μš°λ¦¬μ—κ² μ„Έ 개의 μ΄ˆμƒν™”κ°€ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ„Έ μ΄ˆμƒν™”λŠ” 같은 μ‚¬λžŒμ„ κ·Έλ¦° κ²ƒμœΌλ‘œ μΆ”μ •λ˜λ©°
03:24
of the same age as Leonardo at the time.
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μ‹œκΈ°μ μœΌλ‘œλŠ” λ‹€λΉˆμΉ˜μ™€ λ‚˜μ΄λŒ€κ°€ 같은 μΈλ¬Όμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:26
But how do we know it's him, and not someone else?
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그럼 이 인물이 λ‹€λ₯Έ μ‚¬λžŒμ΄ μ•„λ‹Œ λ‹€λΉˆμΉ˜λΌκ³  μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ ν™•μ‹ ν•  수 μžˆμ„κΉŒμš”?
03:29
Well, we need a reference.
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그러기 μœ„ν•΄μ„  νŒλ‹¨ 기쀀이 ν•„μš”ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:31
And here's the only picture of Leonardo that's widely accepted.
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μ—¬κΈ° λŒ€λ‹€μˆ˜κ°€ λ‹€λΉˆμΉ˜λΌκ³  μΈμ •ν•˜λŠ” μœ μΌν•œ μž‘ν’ˆμ˜ 사진이 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:35
It's a statue made by Verrocchio, of David,
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λ‹€λΉ„λ“œμ˜ λ² λ‘œμΉ˜μ˜€κ°€ λ§Œλ“  μ‘°κ°μƒμœΌλ‘œ
03:38
for which Leonardo posed as a boy of 15.
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15μ‚΄μ˜ λ‹€λΉˆμΉ˜λ₯Ό λͺ¨λΈλ‘œ μ‘°κ°ν•œ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:40
And if we now compare the face of the statue,
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이 μ‘°κ°μƒμ˜ 얼꡴을 'μŒμ•…κ°€' μ†μ˜ μ–Όκ΅΄κ³Ό 비ꡐ해 보면
03:43
with the face of the musician, you see the very same features again.
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λ‹€μ‹œ ν•œ 번 κ·Έ μƒκΉ€μƒˆκ°€ 맀우 λΉ„μŠ·ν•˜λ‹€λŠ” 것을 μ•Œ 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:47
The statue is the reference, and it connects the identity of Leonardo
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기쀀이 λ˜λŠ” 이 쑰각상이 μ„Έ 개의 μ΄ˆμƒν™”λ₯Ό λ ˆμ˜€λ‚˜λ₯΄λ„ λ‹€λΉˆμΉ˜μ™€
03:50
to those three faces.
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μ—°κ²°μ‹œμΌœμ£ΌλŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:52
Ladies and gentlemen, this story has not yet been published.
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μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„, μ œκ°€ μ§€κΈˆκΉŒμ§€ λ§ν•œ 것은 아직 κ³΅κ°œλ˜μ§€ μ•Šμ€ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ €λŠ” μ—¬κΈ° TED에 계신 μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ΄ 처음으둜
03:57
It's only proper that you here at TED hear and see it first.
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이 사싀을 μ ‘ν•˜λŠ” 것이 μ˜³λ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν–ˆκΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:00
The icon of icons finally has a face.
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λ§ˆμΉ¨λ‚΄ μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μš°μƒλ“€ μ€‘μ˜ μš°μƒμ˜ 얼꡴을 μ°Ύμ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:03
Here he is: Leonardo da Vinci.
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λ°”λ‘œ 이 μ‚¬λžŒμ΄ λ ˆμ˜€λ‚˜λ₯΄λ„ λ‹€λΉˆμΉ˜μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:05
(Applause)
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