Choice, happiness and spaghetti sauce | Malcolm Gladwell

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Prevoditelj: Dijana Ivezic Recezent: Marko Rakar
00:25
I think I was supposed to talk about my new book,
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Mislim da sam trebao govoriti o svojoj novoj knjizi
00:28
which is called "Blink,"
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koja se zove "Treptaj" i govori o trenutnim procjenama i prvim dojmovima.
00:29
and it's about snap judgments and first impressions.
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00:33
And it comes out in January, and I hope you all buy it in triplicate.
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Knjiga izlazi u siječnju i nadam se da ćete ju svi kupiti u tri primjerka.
00:36
(Laughter)
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No, razmišljajući o tome, shvatio sam
00:38
But I was thinking about this,
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00:40
and I realized that although my new book makes me happy,
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da, iako me moja knjiga čini sretnim,
a usrećit će i moju majku,
00:44
and I think would make my mother happy,
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00:46
it's not really about happiness.
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zapravo ne govori o sreći.
00:49
So I decided instead, I would talk about someone
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Stoga sam odlučio govoriti o nekome
00:53
who I think has done as much to make Americans happy
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tko je toliko radio da bi usrećio Amerikance,
00:56
as perhaps anyone over the last 20 years,
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kao možda nitko u zadnjih 20 godina.
01:00
a man who is a great personal hero of mine:
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Taj čovjek je moj osobni heroj.
01:03
someone by the name of Howard Moskowitz,
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Čovjek koji se zove Howard Moskowitz i
01:06
who is most famous for reinventing spaghetti sauce.
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koji je najpoznatiji po inoviranju umaka za špagete.
01:10
Howard's about this high, and he's round,
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Howard je otprilike ovako visok i okrugao
01:15
and he's in his 60s, and he has big huge glasses
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u 60-im je godinama i ima ogromne naočale,
rijetku sijedu kosu i prekrasnu životnost i vitalnost.
01:20
and thinning gray hair,
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01:21
and he has a kind of wonderful exuberance and vitality,
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01:25
and he has a parrot, and he loves the opera,
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On ima papigu, voli operu i
01:28
and he's a great aficionado of medieval history.
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veliki je ljubitelj srednjovjekovne povijesti.
01:33
And by profession, he's a psychophysicist.
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Po zanimanju je psihofizičar.
01:35
Now, I should tell you that I have no idea what psychophysics is,
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Moram priznati da nemam pojma što je psihofizičar,
01:40
although at some point in my life,
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iako sam u jednoj fazi u životu dvije godine izlazio s curom
01:42
I dated a girl for two years
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01:43
who was getting her doctorate in psychophysics.
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koja je spremala doktorat iz psihofizike.
01:45
Which should tell you something about that relationship.
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To bi vam trebalo nešto govoriti o toj vezi. (smijeh)
01:49
(Laughter)
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01:51
As far as I know, psychophysics is about measuring things.
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Jedino što znam je da je psihofizika vezana uz mjerenje,
01:55
And Howard is very interested in measuring things.
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a Howarda mjerenje strašno zanima.
01:57
And he graduated with his doctorate from Harvard,
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Diplomirao je i doktorirao na Harvardu te
pokrenuo malu konzultansku radnju u White Plainsu, New York.
02:00
and he set up a little consulting shop in White Plains, New York.
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Jedan od njegovih prvih klijenata - a to je bilo davno, u 70-ima -
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And one of his first clients was Pepsi.
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02:06
This is many years ago, back in the early 70s.
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bio je Pepsi.
02:10
And Pepsi came to Howard and they said,
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Ljudi iz Pepsi došli su k Howardu i rekli:
02:12
"You know, there's this new thing called aspartame,
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"Znate, postoji jedna nova stvar zvana aspartam,
02:14
and we would like to make Diet Pepsi.
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pa bismo željeli napraviti dijetnu Pepsi.
02:16
We'd like you to figure out
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Želimo da dokučite koliko aspartama bismo trebali staviti
02:18
how much aspartame we should put in each can of Diet Pepsi
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u svaku limenku dijetne Pepsi, kako bismo dobili savršeno piće." Jasno?
02:22
in order to have the perfect drink."
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02:24
Now that sounds like an incredibly straightforward question to answer,
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To zvuči kao prilično konkretno pitanje i
02:29
and that's what Howard thought.
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to je i Howard mislio. Zato što su mu iz Pepsija rekli:
02:30
Because Pepsi told him,
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02:31
"We're working with a band between eight and 12 percent.
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Gledajte, radi se o rasponu između 8 i 12 posto.
02:34
Anything below eight percent sweetness is not sweet enough;
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Sve ispod 8 posto nije dovoljno slatko,
02:37
anything above 12 percent sweetness is too sweet.
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dok je iznad 12 preslatko.
02:40
We want to know: what's the sweet spot between 8 and 12?"
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Želimo znati koja je idealna mjera između 8 i 12?"
02:44
Now, if I gave you this problem to do, you would all say, it's very simple.
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Kada bih vam zadao ovaj problem, svi biste rekli da je rješenje vrlo jednostavno.
02:48
What we do is you make up a big experimental batch of Pepsi,
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Znači, napravimo eksperimentalnu smjesu za Pepsi
02:52
at every degree of sweetness -- eight percent, 8.1, 8.2, 8.3,
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na svakom stupnju slatkoće - 8 posto, 8.1, 8.2, 8.3,
02:56
all the way up to 12 --
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sve do 12 - a onda to isprobamo na tisućama ljudi.
02:57
and we try this out with thousands of people,
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03:00
and we plot the results on a curve,
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Unesemo rezultate na krivulju
03:02
and we take the most popular concentration, right?
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i dobijemo najpopularniju koncentraciju. Točno? Zbilja jednostavno.
03:05
Really simple.
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03:06
Howard does the experiment, and he gets the data back,
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Howard je napravio ovaj eksperiment, dobio podatke i izradio krivulju, no
03:09
and he plots it on a curve,
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03:10
and all of a sudden he realizes it's not a nice bell curve.
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najednom je shvatio da to nije lijepa, zvonolika krivulja.
03:13
In fact, the data doesn't make any sense.
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Zapravo, podaci uopće nemaju smisla,
03:15
It's a mess. It's all over the place.
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posvuda je pravi nered.
03:18
Now, most people in that business, in the world of testing food and such,
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Većina ljudi u tom biznisu, u svijetu kušača hrane i slično,
03:22
are not dismayed when the data comes back a mess.
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nisu iznenađeni kada dobiju zbrkane podatke.
03:25
They think, "Well, you know,
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03:26
figuring out what people think about cola's not that easy."
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Pomisle, pa znate, nije tako lako saznati što ljudi misle o colama.
03:29
"You know, maybe we made an error somewhere along the way."
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Možda smo putem negdje pogriješili.
03:32
"You know, let's just make an educated guess,"
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Kada im postavite takvo pitanje,
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and they simply point and they go for 10 percent,
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jednostavno upru prstom u 10 posto, ravno u sredini.
03:37
right in the middle.
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03:39
Howard is not so easily placated.
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No, Howarda to ne zadovoljava.
03:41
Howard is a man of a certain degree of intellectual standards.
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On traži određeni stupanj intelektualnih standarda.
03:43
And this was not good enough for him,
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Za njega to jednostavno nije bilo dovoljno dobro
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and this question bedeviled him for years.
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i to pitanje ga je mučilo godinama.
03:48
And he would think it through and say, "What was wrong?
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Razmišljao bi o svemu i pitao se što je krivo?
03:51
Why could we not make sense of this experiment with Diet Pepsi?"
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Zašto eksperiment s dijetnom Pepsi nije imao smisla?
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And one day, he was sitting in a diner in White Plains,
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Jednog dana, sjedio je u sobi u White Plainsu
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about to go trying to dream up some work for Nescafé.
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kada je trebao smisliti nešto za Nescafe,
04:01
And suddenly, like a bolt of lightning, the answer came to him.
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kad mu odjednom, poput udara munje, sine odgovor.
04:05
And that is, that when they analyzed the Diet Pepsi data,
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Kada su analizirali podatke za dijetnu Pepsi,
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they were asking the wrong question.
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postavili su krivo pitanje.
04:09
They were looking for the perfect Pepsi,
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Tražili su savršenu Pepsi,
04:11
and they should have been looking for the perfect Pepsis.
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a trebali su tražiti savršene Pepsije. Vjerujte mi.
04:15
Trust me.
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04:16
This was an enormous revelation.
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To je bilo ogromno otkriće,
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This was one of the most brilliant breakthroughs in all of food science.
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jedno od najsjajnijih preokreta u prehrambenoj znanosti.
04:22
Howard immediately went on the road,
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Howard je odmah krenuo na put,
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and he would go to conferences around the country,
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obilazio bi konferencije diljem zemlje,
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and he would stand up and say,
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gdje bi ustao i rekao:
04:28
"You had been looking for the perfect Pepsi.
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Tražili ste savršenu Pepsi. Pogriješili ste.
04:30
You're wrong.
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04:31
You should be looking for the perfect Pepsis."
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Trebali biste tražiti savršene Pepsije."
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And people would look at him blankly and say,
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Ljudi bi ga blijedo pogledali i rekli:
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"What are you talking about? Craziness."
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"O čemu vi pričate? To je ludost."
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And they would say, "Move! Next!"
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A onda bi rekli "Ajmo, sljedeći!"
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Tried to get business, nobody would hire him --
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Pokušavao je dobiti posao, no nitko ga nije želio - bio je opsjednut
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he was obsessed, though,
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04:44
and he talked about it and talked about it.
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i pričao je samo o tome i ničemu drugom.
04:46
Howard loves the Yiddish expression
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Howard voli jidišku izreku:
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"To a worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish."
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"Crvu u hrenu, cijeli svijet je hren."
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This was his horseradish.
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Ovo je bio njegov hren (smijeh) i bio je opsjednut njime!
04:53
(Laughter)
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He was obsessed with it!
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04:57
And finally, he had a breakthrough.
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Napokon je došlo do preokreta kada su došli ljudi iz Vlasic Pickles
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Vlasic Pickles came to him,
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05:02
and they said, "Doctor Moskowitz, we want to make the perfect pickle."
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i rekli: "G. Moskowitz - doktore Moskowitz -
mi želimo napraviti savršen krastavac.", a on je rekao:
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And he said,
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05:07
"There is no perfect pickle; there are only perfect pickles."
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"Ne postoji savršen krastavac, samo savršeni krastavci."
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And he came back to them and he said,
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Vratio se i rekao im: "Ne trebate samo poboljšati ono uobičajeno,
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"You don't just need to improve your regular;
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you need to create zesty."
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morate stvoriti pikantnost."
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And that's where we got zesty pickles.
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I tako su nastali pikantni krastavci.
05:19
Then the next person came to him: Campbell's Soup.
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Sljedeći klijent bio je Campbell's Soup
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And this was even more important.
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što je bilo vrlo važno jer je
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In fact, Campbell's Soup is where Howard made his reputation.
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upravo ondje Howard stekao svoj ugled.
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Campbell's made Prego,
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05:28
and Prego, in the early 80s, was struggling next to Ragù,
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Campbell's je stvorio Prego, a Prego je u ranim 80-ima bio rame uz rame s Raguom,
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which was the dominant spaghetti sauce of the 70s and 80s.
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koji je bio prevladavajući umak za špagete u 70-im i 80-ima.
05:36
In the industry -- I don't know whether you care about this,
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Sada u industriji - iako ne znam zanima li vas to
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or how much time I have to go into this.
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i koliko vremena imam za to, ali
tehnički govoreći,
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But it was, technically speaking -- this is an aside --
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Prego je bolji umak od rajčice nego Ragu.
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Prego is a better tomato sauce than Ragù.
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05:46
The quality of the tomato paste is much better;
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Kvaliteta umaka od rajčice je puno bolja, a mješavina začina je znatno superiornija.
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the spice mix is far superior;
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it adheres to the pasta in a much more pleasing way.
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Miješa se s tjesteninom na puno ugodniji način, zapravo
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In fact, they would do the famous bowl test
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u 70-ima su Ragu i Prego radili poznati test sa zdjelama.
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back in the 70s with Ragù and Prego.
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05:57
You'd have a plate of spaghetti, and you would pour it on, right?
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Imate tanjur špageta i umak za njih, OK?
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And the Ragù would all go to the bottom, and the Prego would sit on top.
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Raguov umak bi se spustio na dno, a Prego bi ostao na vrhu.
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That's called "adherence."
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To se naziva "prianjanje".
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And, anyway, despite the fact that they were far superior in adherence,
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No, unatoč činjenici da su bili znatno superiorniji u prianjanju i kvaliteti
06:12
and the quality of their tomato paste,
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umaka od rajčice, Prego je bio u nevolji.
06:15
Prego was struggling.
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06:16
So they came to Howard, and they said, fix us.
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Stoga su došli Howardu i rekli - popravi nas!
06:19
And Howard looked at their product line, and he said,
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Howard je pogledao njihovu liniju proizvoda i rekao:
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what you have is a dead tomato society.
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"To što vi imate je društvo mrtvih rajčica.
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So he said, this is what I want to do.
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Evo što želim učiniti."
06:28
And he got together with the Campbell's soup kitchen,
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U suradnji s kuhinjom Campbell's soup
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and he made 45 varieties of spaghetti sauce.
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napravio je 45 varijacija umaka za špagete.
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And he varied them according to every conceivable way
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Varijacije je radio na sve moguće načine koje možete zamisliti -
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that you can vary tomato sauce:
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06:39
by sweetness, by level of garlic,
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po slatkoći, razini češnjaka, gorčini, kiselosti, "rajčicosti" i
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by tomatoey-ness, by tartness, by sourness,
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vidljivim krutinama - što je moj omiljeni izraz u poslovanju s umakom za špagete. (smijeh)
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by visible solids --
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06:45
my favorite term in the spaghetti sauce business.
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06:48
(Laughter)
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Every conceivable way you can vary spaghetti sauce,
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On je zaista radio varijacije tog umaka na sve zamislive načine.
06:53
he varied spaghetti sauce.
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06:55
And then he took this whole raft of 45 spaghetti sauces,
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Potom je uzeo svih 45 vrsta umaka i krenuo na put.
06:58
and he went on the road.
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07:00
He went to New York, to Chicago,
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Obišao je New York, Chicago, Jacksonville,
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he went to Jacksonville, to Los Angeles.
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Los Angeles i doveo masu ljudi u velike dvorane,
07:03
And he brought in people by the truckload into big halls.
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07:07
And he sat them down for two hours,
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posjeo ih na dva sata i za to vrijeme
07:09
and over the course of that two hours, he gave them ten bowls.
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im dao deset zdjela.
07:12
Ten small bowls of pasta,
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Dakle, deset zdjelica tjestenine s različitim umakom u svakoj.
07:14
with a different spaghetti sauce on each one.
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07:17
And after they ate each bowl, they had to rate, from 0 to 100,
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Nakon što bi pojeli iz svake zdjelice, morali bi dati ocjenu između 0 i 100,
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how good they thought the spaghetti sauce was.
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ovisno o tome koliko im se pojedini umak svidio.
07:24
At the end of that process, after doing it for months and months,
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Na kraju cijeloj procesa, nakon nekoliko mjeseci,
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he had a mountain of data
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dobio je brdo podataka koji govore
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about how the American people feel about spaghetti sauce.
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što Amerikanci misle o umaku za špagete
07:33
And then he analyzed the data.
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i krenuo je s analizom tih podataka.
07:34
Did he look for the most popular variety of spaghetti sauce?
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Je li tražio najpopularniju varijantu umaka? Ne,
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No! Howard doesn't believe that there is such a thing.
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Howard ne vjeruje u takve stvari.
07:41
Instead, he looked at the data, and he said,
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Umjesto toga, pogledao je podatke i rekao:
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let's see if we can group all these different data points into clusters.
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"Pogledajmo možemo li ove različite rezultate grupirati u klastere.
07:49
Let's see if they congregate around certain ideas.
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Možda se temelje na određenim idejama."
07:52
And sure enough, if you sit down,
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Naravno, ako sjednete i krenete analizirati sve ove podatke o umaku za špagete,
07:54
and you analyze all this data on spaghetti sauce,
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07:57
you realize that all Americans fall into one of three groups.
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shvatit ćete da svi Amerikanci pripadaju jednoj od ove tri grupe:
08:01
There are people who like their spaghetti sauce plain;
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Jedni vole jednostavni, obični umak,
08:04
there are people who like their spaghetti sauce spicy;
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drugi vole začinjeni umak,
08:07
and there are people who like it extra chunky.
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a treći vole ekstra velike komadiće.
08:09
And of those three facts, the third one was the most significant,
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Od ove tri činjenice, posljednja je najznačajnija.
08:14
because at the time, in the early 1980s,
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08:16
if you went to a supermarket,
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otišli u supermarket,
08:18
you would not find extra-chunky spaghetti sauce.
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ne biste našli umak s velikim komadićima za špagete.
08:21
And Prego turned to Howard, and they said,
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Prego se obratio Howardu rekavši:
08:24
"You're telling me that one third of Americans
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"Želite mi reći da jedna trećina Amerikanaca žudi za umak s komadićima za špagete
08:26
crave extra-chunky spaghetti sauce
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08:30
and yet no one is servicing their needs?"
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i da im nitko ne ispunjava tu potrebu?" "Da!", odgovorio je.
08:32
And he said "Yes!"
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08:33
(Laughter)
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08:34
And Prego then went back,
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(smijeh) Prego je tada
08:36
and completely reformulated their spaghetti sauce,
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potpuno preformulirao svoje umake
08:38
and came out with a line of extra chunky that immediately and completely
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te predstavio liniju umaka s velikim komadićima koji su
08:42
took over the spaghetti sauce business in this country.
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u trenutku u potpunosti preuzeli biznis s umacima za špagete u zemlji.
08:45
And over the next 10 years, they made 600 million dollars
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Tijekom idućih 10 godina, zaradili su 600 milijuna dolara
08:49
off their line of extra-chunky sauces.
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upravo s tim umacima.
08:53
Everyone else in the industry looked at what Howard had done, and they said,
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Svi unutar industrije su vidjeli što je Howard učinio te su rekli:
08:56
"Oh my god! We've been thinking all wrong!"
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"O, Bože! Sve smo krivo zamislili!"
08:58
And that's when you started to get seven different kinds of vinegar,
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Tako je nastalo sedam različitih vrsta octa,
09:02
and 14 different kinds of mustard, and 71 different kinds of olive oil.
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14 vrsta senfa, 71 vrsta maslinovog ulja
09:07
And then eventually even Ragù hired Howard,
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te je i Ragu angažirao Howarda, koji je
09:11
and Howard did the exact same thing for Ragù that he did for Prego.
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učinio potpuno istu stvar kao za Prego.
09:14
And today, if you go to a really good supermarket,
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Kada biste danas otišli u neki vrlo dobar supermarket
i pogledali koliko Ragu umaka postoji,
09:16
do you know how many Ragùs there are?
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09:18
36!
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znate li koliko bi ih bilo? 36!
09:20
In six varieties:
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U šest varijanti: Sir, Light, Robusto,
09:22
Cheese, Light,
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09:25
Robusto, Rich & Hearty,
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Rich & Hearty, Old World Traditional, Extra-Chunky Garden. (smijeh)
09:28
Old World Traditional --
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09:32
Extra-Chunky Garden.
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09:34
(Laughter)
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09:36
That's Howard's doing.
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To su Howardova djela i njegov dar Amerikancima.
09:37
That is Howard's gift to the American people.
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09:40
Now why is that important?
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Zašto je to važno?
09:41
(Laughter)
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09:44
It is, in fact, enormously important.
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To je, zapravo, strašno važno i objasnit ću vam zašto.
09:46
I'll explain to you why.
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09:47
What Howard did is he fundamentally changed the way the food industry thinks
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Howard je iz temelja promijenio način razmišljanja unutar prehrambene industrije
09:51
about making you happy.
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vezana uz usrećivanje kupaca.
09:54
Assumption number one in the food industry used to be
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Prva pretpostavka prehrambene industrije bila je
09:57
that the way to find out what people want to eat,
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da, ukoliko želite saznati što ljudi žele jesti -
09:59
what will make people happy, is to ask them.
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što će ih usrećiti - morate ih pitati.
10:02
And for years and years and years,
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I dugi niz godina, Ragu i Prego su imali fokus grupe,
10:04
Ragù and Prego would have focus groups,
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koje bi posjeli i rekli im:
10:06
and they would sit you down, and they would say,
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10:09
"What do you want in a spaghetti sauce?
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"Što želite u umaku za špagete? Recite nam, što?"
10:10
Tell us what you want in a spaghetti sauce."
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10:13
And for all those years -- 20, 30 years --
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I svih tih 20, 30 godina,
10:16
through all those focus group sessions,
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tijekom svih sastanaka fokus grupa,
10:18
no one ever said they wanted extra-chunky.
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nitko nije rekao "želim ekstra velike komadiće".
10:21
Even though at least a third of them, deep in their hearts, actually did.
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Mada je, vjerojatno, barem trećina njih to željela.
10:25
(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
10:27
People don't know what they want!
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Ljudi ne znaju što žele, zar ne?
10:29
As Howard loves to say,
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Ili, kako to Howard običava reći: "Um ne zna što jezik želi."
10:31
"The mind knows not what the tongue wants."
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10:33
It's a mystery!
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To je misterij!
10:35
(Laughter)
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10:36
And a critically important step
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Ključan korak u razumijevanju vlastitih želja i ukusa
10:38
in understanding our own desires and tastes
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10:41
is to realize that we cannot always explain what we want, deep down.
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je razumijevanje da ne možemo uvijek objasniti što zapravo želimo.
10:46
If I asked all of you, for example, in this room, what you want in a coffee,
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Kada bih sve vas, u ovoj sobi, pitao kakvu kavu želite,
10:50
you know what you'd say?
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znate što biste rekli? Svatko od vas bi rekao: "Želim tamnu, bogatu i dobro prženu."
10:51
Every one of you would say, "I want a dark, rich, hearty roast."
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10:56
It's what people always say when you ask them.
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Tako ljudi odgovaraju na pitanje o kavi.
10:58
"What do you like?" "Dark, rich, hearty roast!"
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Kakvu volite? Tamnu, bogatu i dobro prženu.
11:01
What percentage of you actually like a dark, rich, hearty roast?
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Koji postotak vas zapravo voli tamnu, bogatu i dobro prženu?
11:04
According to Howard, somewhere between 25 and 27 percent of you.
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Prema Howardu, negdje između 25 i 27 posto.
11:08
Most of you like milky, weak coffee.
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Većina vas voli mliječnu, slabiju kavu,
11:10
(Laughter)
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11:11
But you will never, ever say to someone who asks you what you want
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ali nikada nećete na to pitanje odgovoriti:
11:15
that "I want a milky, weak coffee."
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"Želim mliječnu, slabu kavu." (smijeh)
11:17
So that's number one thing that Howard did.
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To je prvo što je Howard učinio.
11:21
Number two thing that Howard did is he made us realize --
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Druga stvar je da smo uz njega -
11:25
it's another very critical point --
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to je druga kritična točka -
11:27
he made us realize the importance
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osvijestili važnost nečega što on voli zvati "horizontalna segmentacija".
11:29
of what he likes to call "horizontal segmentation."
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11:33
Why is this critical?
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Zašto je ovo ključno?
11:34
Because this is the way the food industry thought before Howard.
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Zato što se u prehrambenoj industriji tako razmišljalo prije Howarda.
11:37
What were they obsessed with in the early 80s?
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Čime su bili opsjednuti u 80-ima? Senfom.
11:40
They were obsessed with mustard.
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11:41
In particular, they were obsessed with the story of Grey Poupon.
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Točnije, bili su opsjednuti pričom o Grey Pouponu.
11:45
Used to be, there were two mustards: French's and Gulden's.
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Nekada su postojala dva senfa - French's i Gulden's.
11:48
What were they? Yellow mustard.
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Oni su bili žuti senfovi. Što su sadržavali?
11:49
What's in it?
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11:50
Yellow mustard seeds, turmeric, and paprika.
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Sjemenke žutog senfa, indijski šafran i papriku.
11:52
That was mustard.
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11:53
Grey Poupon came along, with a Dijon.
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Grey Poupon je nastao s Dijonom.
11:56
Right?
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11:57
Much more volatile brown mustard seed, some white wine, a nose hit,
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Sadržavao je razne sjemenke smeđeg senfa, malo bijelog vina i
12:03
much more delicate aromatics.
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i delikatnije arome. Što su učinili?
12:05
And what do they do?
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12:06
They put it in a little tiny glass jar, with a wonderful enameled label on it,
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Stavili su ga u minijaturnu staklenku, s briljantno sjajnom etiketom
12:11
made it look French,
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kako bi izgledao francuski, iako je napravljen u Oxnardu, Kalifornija.
12:12
even though it's made in Oxnard, California.
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12:14
(Laughter)
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12:15
And instead of charging a dollar fifty for the eight-ounce bottle,
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Umjesto da su tu malu bočicu od 20 grama naplatili 1,50 dolar,
12:20
the way that French's and Gulden's did,
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poput Frencha i Guldena, oni su ju naplaćivali 4 dolara.
12:21
they decided to charge four dollars.
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12:23
And they had those ads.
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Onda su imali one reklame s tipom u Rolls Royceu koji
12:24
With the guy in the Rolls Royce, eating the Grey Poupon.
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jede Grey Poupon. Potom se zaustavi još jedan Rolls Royce
12:27
Another pulls up, and says, "Do you have any Grey Poupon?"
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čiji vozač pita: "Imate li Grey Poupon?"
12:30
And the whole thing, after they did that, Grey Poupon takes off!
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Sve ostalo je povijest. Grey Poupon strelovitom brzinom
12:33
Takes over the mustard business!
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preuzima biznis senfa.
12:35
And everyone's take-home lesson from that
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Lekcija koju su nas naučili bila je da,
12:37
was that the way to make people happy
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ako želite usrećiti ljude, morate im dati nešto skuplje,
12:42
is to give them something that is more expensive,
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nešto čemu mogu težiti.
12:45
something to aspire to.
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12:47
It's to make them turn their back on what they think they like now,
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Morate ih natjerati da okrenu leđa onome što misle da vole sada
12:51
and reach out for something higher up the mustard hierarchy.
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vole i posegnu za nečim višim u hijerarhiji senfa.
12:55
(Laughter)
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12:56
A better mustard! A more expensive mustard!
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Za boljim i skupljim senfom,
12:58
A mustard of more sophistication and culture and meaning.
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onim sofisticiranijim i značajnijim.
13:01
And Howard looked to that and said, "That's wrong!"
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Kada je Howard to vidio, rekao je: "To je pogrešno!"
13:04
Mustard does not exist on a hierarchy.
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Ne postoji hijerarhija senfa,
13:07
Mustard exists, just like tomato sauce, on a horizontal plane.
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nego, kao i s umakom od rajčice, samo horizontalna ravnina.
13:11
There is no good mustard or bad mustard.
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Ne postoji dobar, loš,
13:14
There is no perfect mustard or imperfect mustard.
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savršen ili nesavršen senf,
13:17
There are only different kinds of mustards that suit different kinds of people.
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već različite vrste koje odgovaraju različitim ljudima.
13:21
He fundamentally democratized the way we think about taste.
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Iz temelja je demokratizirao način razmišljanja o ukusima.
13:26
And for that, as well, we owe Howard Moskowitz a huge vote of thanks.
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I za to dugujemo veliko hvala Howardu Moskowitzu.
13:31
Third thing that Howard did, and perhaps the most important,
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Treća, i možda najvažnija, stvar koju je Howard učinio je
13:34
is Howard confronted the notion of the Platonic dish.
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suprotstavljanje ideji platoničkog jela. (smijeh)
13:37
(Laughter)
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13:38
What do I mean by that?
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Što pod time mislim?
13:39
(Laughter)
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13:41
For the longest time in the food industry,
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Dugo vremena u prehrambenoj industriji,
13:43
there was a sense that there was one way,
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vladalo je mišljenje da postoji samo jedan jedini, savršeni način pripremanja jela.
13:46
a perfect way, to make a dish.
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13:49
You go to Chez Panisse,
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Ako odete u Chez Panisse, dobit ćete red-tail sashimi
13:51
they give you the red-tail sashimi with roasted pumpkin seeds
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sa prženim sjemenkama bundeve u nekom broju.
13:56
in a something something reduction.
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13:58
They don't give you five options on the reduction.
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Nemate pet vrsta izbora, OK?
14:01
They don't say, "Do you want the extra-chunky reduction, or ...?"
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Ne pitaju vas želite li s velikim komadićima ili nekako drukčije.
14:04
No!
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14:05
You just get the reduction. Why?
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Dobijete to što dobijete jer šef kuhinje u Chez Panisseu
14:07
Because the chef at Chez Panisse
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14:08
has a Platonic notion about red-tail sashimi.
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ima platoničko shvaćanje red-tail sashimija.
14:11
"This is the way it ought to be."
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To tako mora biti i
14:13
And she serves it that way time and time again,
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tako se poslužuje već odavno i
14:18
and if you quarrel with her, she will say,
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ako se pokušate pobuniti, reći će vam:
14:20
"You know what? You're wrong!
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"Znate što, u krivu ste! Ovo je najbolji način pripreme u ovom restoranu."
14:22
This is the best way it ought to be in this restaurant."
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14:25
Now that same idea fueled the commercial food industry as well.
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Istu ideju imala je i komercijalna prehrambena industrija.
14:29
They had a Platonic notion of what tomato sauce was.
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Imali su platoničko shvaćanje umaka od rajčice.
14:32
And where did that come from? It came from Italy.
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To je poteklo iz Italije gdje je
14:35
Italian tomato sauce is what?
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umak od rajčice mljeven i rijedak.
14:37
It's blended; it's thin.
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14:39
The culture of tomato sauce was thin.
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Takva je i kultura umaka od rajčice.
14:41
When we talked about "authentic tomato sauce" in the 1970s,
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Kada smo govorili o izvornom umaku od rajčice iz 70-ih,
14:44
we talked about Italian tomato sauce,
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govorili smo o talijanskom umaku, o prvim raguima
14:46
we talked about the earliest Ragùs,
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14:48
which had no visible solids, right?
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koji nisu imali vidljive krutine.
14:51
Which were thin, you just put a little bit
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Bili su rijetki i kada biste ih prelili preko tjestenine,
14:53
and it sunk down to the bottom of the pasta.
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potonuli bi na dno.
14:55
That's what it was.
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Zašto smo se toliko vezali uz to?
14:56
And why were we attached to that?
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Jer smo mislili da će ljude usrećiti
14:58
Because we thought that what it took to make people happy
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15:00
was to provide them with the most culturally authentic tomato sauce, A.
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kulturološki izvorni umak od rajčice, kao i
15:05
And B, we thought that if we gave them the culturally authentic tomato sauce,
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činjenica da će ga prihvatiti upravo zato
15:10
then they would embrace it.
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što je izvorni.
15:12
And that's what would please the maximum number of people.
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Mislili smo da će upravo to zadovoljiti najveći broj ljudi.
15:15
In other words,
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To smo mislili jer smo imali ideju da ljudi
15:17
people in the cooking world were looking for cooking universals.
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u kulinarstvu traže kulinarske univerzalnosti,
15:21
They were looking for one way to treat all of us.
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jedan način za sve.
15:23
And it's good reason for them to be obsessed
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Opsjednutnost univerzalnošću je nastala tako što je
15:26
with the idea of universals,
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15:27
because all of science,
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kompletna znanost tijekom 19. i većeg dijela 20. stoljeća,
15:29
through the 19th century and much of the 20th,
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15:31
was obsessed with universals.
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bila opsjednuta time.
15:33
Psychologists, medical scientists, economists
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Psiholozi, liječnici, ekonomisti...svi su željeli
15:37
were all interested in finding out the rules
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15:39
that govern the way all of us behave.
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saznati pravila koja pokreću naše ponašanje.
15:42
But that changed, right?
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No, to se promijenilo.
15:43
What is the great revolution in science of the last 10, 15 years?
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Što je najveća revolucija u znanosti u zadnjih 10-15 godina?
15:47
It is the movement from the search for universals
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Promjena od potrage za univerzalnošću do razumijevanja raznolikosti.
15:50
to the understanding of variability.
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15:53
Now in medical science, we don't want to know, necessarily,
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U medicini ne želimo nužno znati kako rak funkcionira,
15:57
just how cancer works,
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ali želimo znati kako se jedan razlikuje od drugoga.
15:58
we want to know how your cancer is different from my cancer.
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16:02
I guess my cancer different from your cancer.
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Pretpostavljam da bi moj rak bio drukčiji od vašega.
16:04
Genetics has opened the door to the study of human variability.
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Genetika je započela studiju ljudske raznolikosti.
16:08
What Howard Moskowitz was doing was saying,
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Howard Moskowitz je tvrdio da je jednaka revolucija
16:11
"This same revolution needs to happen in the world of tomato sauce."
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nužna u svijetu umaku od rajčice.
16:16
And for that, we owe him a great vote of thanks.
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Za to mu dugujemo zahvalnost.
16:20
I'll give you one last illustration of variability,
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Dat ću vam još jedan primjer raznolikosti:
16:23
and that is -- oh, I'm sorry.
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Howard not only believed that, but he took it a second step,
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Howard nije samo vjerovao, već je napravio i sljedeći korak koji je pokazao da,
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which was to say that when we pursue universal principles in food,
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tražeći univerzalne principe u hrani, ne samo da griješimo,
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we aren't just making an error;
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već sami sebi radimo medvjeđu uslugu.
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we are actually doing ourselves a massive disservice.
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And the example he used was coffee.
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Uzeo je kavu kao primjer, budući da je
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And coffee is something he did a lot of work with, with Nescafé.
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puno radio s njom kroz Nescafe.
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If I were to ask all of you to try and come up with a brand of coffee --
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Kada bih vas pitao da probate smisliti novu vrstu kave,
16:49
a type of coffee, a brew -- that made all of you happy,
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mješavinu koja bi vas sve usrećila,
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and then I asked you to rate that coffee,
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a potom vas pitao da ocijenite tu kavu,
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the average score in this room for coffee would be about 60 on a scale of 0 to 100.
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na ljestvici od 0 do 100, prosječni rezultat u ovoj prostoriji bio bi oko 60.
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If, however, you allowed me to break you into coffee clusters,
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No, ako biste mi dopustili da vas podijelim u "klastere kave",
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maybe three or four coffee clusters,
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možda tri ili četiri,
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and I could make coffee just for each of those individual clusters,
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i napravim posebnu vrstu kave za svaki klaster,
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your scores would go from 60 to 75 or 78.
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rezultati bi se sa 60 popeli na 75 ili 78.
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The difference between coffee at 60 and coffee at 78
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Razlika između kave sa 60 i 78 bodova je
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is a difference between coffee that makes you wince,
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razlika između kave kojom ste zadovoljni
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and coffee that makes you deliriously happy.
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i kave koja vas baca u trans od sreće.
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That is the final, and I think most beautiful lesson,
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To je posljednja, a mislim i najljepša, lekcija Howarda Moskowitza.
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of Howard Moskowitz:
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that in embracing the diversity of human beings,
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Prihvaćanjem raznolikosti ljudskih bića,
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we will find a surer way to true happiness.
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naći ćemo sigurniji put do istinske sreće.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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Hvala vam.
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