Sam Richards: A radical experiment in empathy

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Translator: Maria Liivak Reviewer: Triin Sinissaar
Mu üliõpilased küsivad minult sageli:
00:16
My students often ask me, "What is sociology?"
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"Mis on sotsioloogia?"
00:20
And I tell them it's the study of the way in which human beings are shaped
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Ma vastan: "See on õpetus
sellest, kuidas inimesi mõjutavad
asjad, mida nad ei näe."
00:25
by things that they don't see.
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00:27
And they say, "So, how can I be a sociologist?
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Nad küsivad: "Kuidas saan ma siis sotsioloog olla?
00:31
How can I understand those invisible forces?"
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Kuidas ma saaksin mõista nähtamatuid jõude?"
Ma vastan: "Empaatia abil.
00:34
And I say, "Empathy.
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00:35
Start with empathy.
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Alustage empaatiaga.
00:37
It all begins with empathy.
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Kõik algab empaatiast.
00:40
Take yourself out of your shoes,
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Astuge korraks oma rollist välja
00:42
put yourself into the shoes of another person."
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ja pange end teise inimese rolli."
00:44
Here, I'll give you an example.
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Toon teile näite.
00:47
So I imagine my life if, a hundred years ago,
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Kujutan ette oma elu,
kui sada aastat tagasi
00:50
China had been the most powerful nation in the world
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oleks Hiina olnud maailma võimsaim riik
00:53
and they came to the United States in search of coal.
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ja nad oleksid tulnud USAsse,
otsides kivisütt,
00:57
And they found it, and, in fact, they found lots of it right here.
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ja nad oleksid leidnud seda siitsamast üsna palju.
01:00
And pretty soon, they began shipping that coal,
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Varsti hakkasid nad vedama seda sütt
tonnide kaupa,
01:04
ton by ton,
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01:05
railcar by railcar, boatload by boatload,
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vagunite kaupa, laevatäite kaupa
tagasi Hiinasse ja mujale maailma.
01:09
back to China and elsewhere around the world.
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Seda tehes said nad uskumatult rikkaks.
01:13
And they got fabulously wealthy in doing so.
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01:15
And they built beautiful cities
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Nad ehitasid kauneid linnu,
01:17
all powered on that coal.
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mida varustati energiaga selle kivisöe abil.
01:22
And back here in the United States,
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Aga siin, USAs,
nägime me lootusetut majanduslikku olukorda ja puudust.
01:26
we saw economic despair, deprivation.
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See oli see, mida ma nägin.
01:28
This is what I saw.
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01:29
I saw people struggling to get by,
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Nägin inimesi virelemas,
01:32
not knowing what was what and what was next.
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teadmata, mis on mis ja kuidas edasi.
01:35
And I asked myself the question:
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Ja siis esitasin endale küsimuse.
Küsisin: "Kuidas on võimalik, et meie siin USAs oleme nii vaesed,
01:38
How is it possible that we could be so poor here in the United States,
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kivisüsi on ju ometi väärtuslik loodusvara,
01:41
because coal is such a wealthy resource; it's so much money?
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mis toodab nii palju raha?"
Ja ma mõistsin,
01:45
And I realize:
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01:46
because the Chinese ingratiated themselves
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et hiinlased on saavutanud kavala kokkuleppe
01:49
with a small ruling class here in the United States,
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USA väikesearvulise valitseva klassiga,
01:52
who stole all of that money and all of that wealth for themselves.
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kes pistsid kogu selle raha ja rikkuse enda tasku.
01:56
And the rest of us, the vast majority of us,
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Meie, ülejäänud, keda on enamik,
01:58
struggle to get by.
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peame virelema.
02:00
And the Chinese gave this small ruling elite
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Ja hiinlased andsid meie vähemuses olevale valitsevale eliidile
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loads of military weapons and sophisticated technology
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hulgaliselt sõjariistu ja keerulist tehnoloogiat,
tagamaks, et minusugused inimesed
02:07
in order to ensure that people like me
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02:09
would not speak out against this relationship.
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ei protestiks selle suhte vastu.
02:13
Does this sound familiar?
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Kas see kõlab tuttavlikult?
02:16
And they did things like train Americans to help protect the coal.
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Ja nad õpetasid ameeriklasi välja,
et nad aitaksid kivisütt kaitsta.
02:20
And everywhere, there were symbols of the Chinese --
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Kõikjal võis näha Hiina sümboleid -
02:23
everywhere, a constant reminder.
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kõikjal, alatise meeldetuletusena.
Ja Hiinas,
02:27
And back in China,
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mida seal räägitakse?
02:29
what do they say in China?
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02:30
Nothing! They don't talk about us. They don't talk about the coal.
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Mitte midagi. Nad ei räägi meist. Nad ei räägi kivisöest.
Kui nende käest küsida,
02:34
If you ask them,
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02:35
they'll say, "Well, you know, we need the coal.
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vastavad nad: "Teate, meil on kivisütt vaja.
02:37
I mean, come on, I'm not going to turn down my thermostat.
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Tähendab, olge normaalsed, ma ei saa ju kütet välja keerata.
Te ei saa seda eeldada."
02:41
You can't expect that."
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02:43
And so, I get angry, and I get pissed,
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Ja ma muutun vihaseks, lähen närvi,
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as do lots of average people.
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just nagu paljud tavalised inimesed.
Me hakkame vastu ja asi läheb väga inetuks.
02:49
And we fight back, and it gets really ugly.
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02:51
And the Chinese respond in a very ugly way.
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Hiinlased reageerivad samuti väga inetult.
02:55
And before we know it, they send in the tanks
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Enne kui me arugi saame, saadavad nad siia tankid
02:58
and they send in the troops.
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ja seejärel oma väeüksused
03:00
And lots of people are dying.
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ja paljud inimesed saavad surma
03:02
And it's a very, very difficult situation.
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ja olukord on äärmiselt keeruline.
03:07
Can you imagine what you would feel
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Kas te suudate ette kujutada,
mida te minu olukorras tunneksite?
03:11
if you were in my shoes?
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Kas te suudate kujutleda, et väljute sellest hoonest
03:13
Can you imagine walking out of this building
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03:15
and seeing a tank sitting out there,
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ja näete seal eemal tanki
03:17
or a truck full of soldiers?
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või autokastitäit sõdureid?
Ja kujutlege, mida te tunneksite.
03:21
Just imagine what you would feel, because you know why they're here;
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Sest te teate, miks nad seal on ja mida nad seal teevad.
03:24
you know what they're doing here.
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Te tunnete viha ja hirmu.
03:26
And you just feel the anger and you feel the fear.
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03:29
If you can, that's empathy. That's empathy.
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Kui te seda suudate, siis see ongi empaatia.
03:32
You've left your shoes, and you've stood in mine.
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Te olete asetanud ennast minu olukorda.
Ja te peate seda tundma.
03:36
And you've got to feel that.
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Nii, see oli soojenduseks.
03:38
OK, so that's the warm-up.
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See oli soojendus.
03:40
That's the warm-up.
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03:41
Now we're going to have the real radical experiment.
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Nüüd teeme läbi
tõeliselt radikaalse eksperimendi.
03:45
So, for the remainder of my talk, what I want you to do
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Ma palun, et minu ülejäänud kõne ajal
03:48
is put yourselves in the shoes of an ordinary Arab Muslim
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asetaksite te ennast
tavalise araablasest moslemi olukorda,
03:53
living in the Middle East --
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kes elab Lähis-Idas,
03:55
in particular, in Iraq.
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ennekõike Iraagis.
03:59
And so to help you,
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Et teid aitada -
04:01
perhaps you're a member of this middle-class family in Baghdad.
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võib-olla olete selle Bagdadi keskklassi perekonna liige
04:05
What you want is the best for your kids.
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ja tahate seda, mis on teie lastele parim.
04:08
You want your kids to have a better life.
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Te tahate, et teie lastel oleks parem elu.
04:10
And you watch the news, you pay attention.
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Te jälgite tähelepanelikult uudiseid,
04:12
You read the newspaper, you go down to the coffee shop with your friends,
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loete ajalehte, käite sõpradega kohvikus
ja loete ka ajalehti mujalt maailmast.
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you read the newspapers from around the world.
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Vahel vaatate isegi satelliittelevisiooni,
04:18
Sometimes you even watch satellite, CNN, from the United States.
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USA telekanalit CNN.
04:21
You have a sense of what the Americans are thinking.
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Nii et teil on aimu, mida ameeriklased mõtlevad.
Aga tegelikult tahate te lihtsalt endale paremat elu.
04:24
But really, you just want a better life for yourself.
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See on teie soov.
04:27
That's what you want.
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04:28
You're Arab Muslim living in Iraq.
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Te olete araablane, moslem, kes elab Iraagis.
Te tahate endale paremat elu.
04:31
You want a better life for yourself.
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Lubage, ma aitan teid.
04:33
So here, let me help you.
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04:34
Let me help you with some things that you might be thinking.
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Lubage, ma aitan teid mõne asjaga,
mida te võib-olla mõtlete.
04:38
Number one:
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Esiteks: see sissetung teie maale
04:39
this incursion into your land these past 20 years and before --
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viimase 20 aasta jooksul ja enne seda,
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the reason anyone is interested in your land,
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põhjus, miks keegi, eriti USA, teie maast huvitub,
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and particularly the United States, is oil.
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on nafta.
04:48
It's all about oil; you know that, everybody knows that.
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Asi on naftas - seda teavad kõik.
04:51
People back in the United States know it's about oil.
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Inimesed USAs teavad, et asi on naftas.
04:54
It's because somebody else has a design for your resource.
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Asi on selles, et kellelgi teisel
on kavatsused seoses teie loodusvaradega.
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It's your resource -- it's not somebody else's.
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See on teie loodusvara, mitte kellegi teise.
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It's your land; it's your resource.
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See on teie maa, teie loodusvara.
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Somebody else has a design for it.
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Kellelgi teisel on sellega seoses kavatsused.
Ja kas teate, miks?
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And you know why they have a design?
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05:09
You know why they have their eyes set on it?
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Mis nad sellele silma viskavad?
Sest kogu nende majanduslik süsteem
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Because they have an entire economic system
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sõltub sellest naftast,
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that's dependent on that oil -- foreign oil,
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välismaalt saadud naftast,
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oil from other parts of the world that they don't own.
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naftast, mis on pärit paikadest, mis pole nende omad.
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And what else do you think about these people?
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Mida te veel neist inimestest arvate?
Ameeriklased on rikkad.
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The Americans, they're rich.
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05:24
Come on, they live in big houses, they have big cars.
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Nad elavad suurtes majades, neil on suured autod,
neil kõigil on heledad juuksed, sinised silmad, nad on õnnelikud.
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They all have blond hair, blue eyes. They're happy.
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Te mõtlete nii. Loomulikult pole see tõsi,
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You think that. It's not true, of course, but that's the media impression.
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aga sellise mulje jätab meedia ja selline mulje teile jääbki.
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And that's what you get.
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Neil on suured linnad
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And they have big cities,
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05:35
and the cities are all dependent on oil.
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ja need linnad sõltuvad kõik naftast.
05:39
And back home, what do you see?
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Mida te oma kodumaal näete?
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Poverty, despair, struggle.
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Vaesust, ahastust, virelemist.
Vaadake, te ei ela rikkas riigis.
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Look, you don't live in a wealthy country.
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05:46
I mean -- this is Iraq.
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See on Iraak.
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This is what you see.
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See on see, mida te näete.
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You see people struggling to get by.
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Te näete, kuidas inimesed virelevad.
See ei ole lihtne - te näete palju vaesust.
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It's not easy; you see a lot of poverty.
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Ja see tekitab teis tundeid.
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And you feel something about this.
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05:58
These people have designs for your resource,
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Nendel inimestel on kavatsused seoses teie loodusvaraga
ja see on see, mida te näete?
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and this is what you see?
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Veel üks asi, mida te näete ja millest räägite -
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Something else you see that you talk about --
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ameeriklased ei räägi, aga teie räägite.
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Americans don't talk about this, but you do --
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See on maailma militariseerumine,
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there's this thing, this militarization of the world,
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mille keskpunktiks on USA.
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and it's centered right in the United States.
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Ja USA on vastutav
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And the United States is responsible
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peaaegu poole eest
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for almost one half of the world's military spending.
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maailma militaarkuludest -
neli protsenti maailma rahvastikust.
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Four percent of the world's population!
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Te tunnete ja näete seda iga päev.
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And you feel it; you see it every day.
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See on osa teie elust.
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It's part of your life.
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06:25
And you talk about it with your friends.
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Ja te räägite sellest oma sõpradega.
Te loete selle kohta.
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You read about it.
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06:29
And back when Saddam Hussein was in power,
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Kui Saddam Hussein oli võimul,
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the Americans didn't care about his crimes.
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ei hoolinud ameeriklased tema kuritegudest.
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When he was gassing the Kurds and gassing Iran,
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Kui ta gaasitas kurde ja Iraani,
ei hoolinud nad sellest.
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they didn't care about it.
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06:40
When oil was at stake,
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Aga kui kaalul oli nafta,
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somehow, suddenly, things mattered.
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siis muutusid asjad äkki oluliseks.
06:47
And what you see, something else:
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Ja veel üks asi, mida te näete,
on see, et USA,
06:50
the United States,
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06:51
the hub of democracy around the world --
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maailma demokraatia keskpunkt,
ei paista tõtt-öelda
06:54
they don't seem to really be supporting democratic countries
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toetavat demokraatlikke riike kogu maailmas.
06:57
all around the world.
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06:59
There are a lot of countries, oil-producing countries,
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On palju riike, naftat tootvaid riike,
07:02
that aren't very democratic, but supported by the United States.
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mis ei ole kuigi demokraatlikud, aga mida USA toetab.
See on veider.
07:06
That's odd.
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07:07
Oh -- these incursions, these two wars,
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Need sissetungid, need kaks sõda,
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the 10 years of sanctions,
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need kümme aastat sanktsioone,
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the eight years of occupation,
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kaheksa aastat okupatsiooni,
07:16
the insurgency that's been unleashed on your people,
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ülestõus, mis teie rahva hulgas on vallandatud,
sajad tuhanded
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the tens of thousands, the hundreds of thousands
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07:22
of civilian deaths?
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surnud tsiviilisikud,
kõik nafta pärast.
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All because of oil.
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07:30
You can't help but think that.
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Paratamatult mõtled sa sellele.
07:32
You talk about it.
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Sa räägid sellest.
07:34
It's in the forefront of your mind, always.
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See on sul alati meeles.
07:37
You say, "How is that possible?"
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Sa küsid: "Kuidas on see võimalik?"
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And this man, he's everyman --
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Ja see mees, ta on tavaline mees -
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your grandfather, your uncle,
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su vanaisa, su onu,
su isa, su poeg,
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your father, your son, your neighbor,
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su naaber, su õpetaja, su õpilane.
07:48
your professor, your student.
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07:50
Once a life of happiness and joy
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Õnnelik ja rõõmus elu
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and suddenly, pain and sorrow.
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asendus äkki kurbuse ja leinaga.
Iga inimest sinu maal
07:57
Everyone in your country has been touched by the violence,
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on puudutanud vägivald,
verevalamine, valu,
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the bloodshed, the pain, the horror -- everybody.
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õudus - igaüht.
08:06
Not a single person in your country has not been touched.
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Sinu riigis pole ühtegi inimest,
keda see poleks puudutanud.
Aga on veel üks asi.
08:12
But there's something else.
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08:13
There's something else about these people, these Americans who are there.
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Nende inimeste juures on veel midagi,
nende ameeriklaste juures, kes siia tulid.
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There's something else about them that you see
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Sa näed nende juures veel midagi - mida nad ise ei näe.
08:20
that they don't see themselves.
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Mida sa näed? Nad on kristlased.
08:21
And what do you see? They're Christians!
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08:23
They're Christians.
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Nad on kristlased.
08:25
They worship the Christian God, they have crosses, they carry Bibles.
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Nad kummardavad Kristust, neil on ristid, nad kannavad Piiblit kaasas.
08:28
Their Bibles have a little insignia
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Nende Piiblitel on väike märk
tekstiga "USA armee".
08:31
that says "US Army" on them.
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08:34
And their leaders, their leaders:
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Ja nende juhid:
08:37
before they send their sons and daughters off to war in your country --
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enne kui nad saadavad oma pojad ja tütred
sinu maale sõtta -
ja sa tead, mis põhjusel -
08:42
and you know the reason --
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08:43
before they send them off,
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enne kui nad neid teele saadavad,
08:45
they go to a Christian church, and they pray to their Christian God,
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lähevad nad kristlikku kirikusse ja palvetavad kristlaste jumala poole,
paludes sellelt jumalalt kaitset ja teejuhatust.
08:48
and they ask for protection and guidance from that god.
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Miks?
08:51
Why?
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08:52
Well, obviously, when people die in the war,
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Loomulikult selleks, et kui sõjas sureb inimesi,
08:56
they are Muslims, they are Iraqis -- they're not Americans.
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oleksid need moslemid, iraaklased -
mitte ameeriklased.
Sa ei taha, et ameeriklased sureksid. Kaitseme oma sõdureid.
09:01
You don't want Americans to die -- "Protect Our Troops."
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Ja see tekitab sinus tundeid -
09:04
And you feel something about that --
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loomulikult tekitab.
09:06
of course you do.
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09:07
And they do wonderful things.
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Ja nad teevad imelisi asju.
09:09
You read about it, you hear about it.
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Sa loed ja kuuled selle kohta.
09:11
They're there to build schools and help people.
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Nad on siin, et ehitada koolimaju ja aidata inimesi - see on nende plaan.
09:13
That's what they want to do.
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Nad teevad häid asju, aga nad teevad ka halbu asju
09:15
They do wonderful things, but they also do the bad things,
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ja sul on raske neil vahet teha.
09:17
and you can't tell the difference.
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On selliseid mehi nagu kindralleitnant William Boykin.
09:19
And this guy, you get a guy like Lt. Gen. William Boykin.
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Ta on mees, kes ütleb, et teie jumal on võltsjumal.
09:22
Here's a guy who says that your god is a false god.
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09:24
Your god's an idol; his god is the true god.
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Teie jumal on ebajumal, tema jumal on tõeline.
09:26
The solution to the problem in the Middle East, according to him,
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Tema arvates on Lähis-Ida probleemide lahenduseks
pöörata teid kõiki kristlasteks
09:30
is to convert you all to Christianity --
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ja juurida välja teie usk.
09:32
just get rid of your religion.
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09:33
And you know that. Americans don't read about this guy.
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Teie teate seda. Ameeriklased ei loe selle mehe kohta.
Nad ei tea temast midagi, aga teie teate.
09:36
They don't know anything about him, but you do.
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09:38
You pass it around. You pass his words around.
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Te levitate seda. Te levitate tema sõnu.
See on tõsine asi.
09:41
I mean, this is serious. You're afraid.
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09:43
He was one of the leading commanders in the second invasion of Iraq.
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Ta oli teise Iraagi invasiooni ajal üks ülemjuhatajaid.
Sa mõtled: "Kui see mees niimoodi arvab,
09:47
And you're thinking, "My God, if this guy is saying that,
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09:49
then all the soldiers must be saying that."
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siis arvavad ilmselt kõik sõdurid niimoodi."
Ja on veel üks sõna -
09:52
And this word here --
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09:53
George Bush called this war a crusade.
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George Bush nimetas seda sõda ristisõjaks.
09:55
Man, the Americans, they're just like, "Ah, crusade.
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Ameeriklased mõtlevad: "Ah, ristisõda.
Mida iganes. Ma ei tea."
09:58
Whatever. I don't know what that means."
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Sina tead, mida see tähendab.
10:00
You know what it means -- it's a holy war against Muslims.
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See on püha sõda moslemite vastu.
10:03
Look, invade, subdue them, take their resources.
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Tungi sisse, alista nad ja võta nende loodusvarad.
Kui nad alla ei anna, tapa nad.
10:07
If they won't submit, kill them.
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See on asja sisu.
10:09
That's what this is about.
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10:10
And you're thinking, "My God, these Christians are coming to kill us."
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Sa mõtled: "Need kristlased tulevad siia meid tapma."
See on hirmutav.
10:14
This is frightening.
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10:15
You feel frightened. Of course you feel frightened.
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Sul on hirm. Muidugi on sul hirm.
10:18
And this man, Terry Jones:
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Ja mees nimega Terry Jones -
10:21
I mean here's a guy who wants to burn Qurans, right?
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tema on see, kes tahab Koraane põletada.
Ameeriklased mõtlevad: "Ta on jobu.
10:24
And the Americans: "Ah, he's a knucklehead.
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Ta on endine hotellijuhataja,
10:26
He's a former hotel manager; he's got three dozen members of his church ..."
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tema kirikusse kuulub kolm tosinat liiget."
Nad naeravad ta välja. Sina ei naera teda välja.
10:30
They laugh him off.
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10:31
You don't laugh him off, because in the context of everything else,
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Sest kui arvestada kogu konteksti,
on see väga loogiline.
10:34
all the pieces fit.
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Muidugi suhtuvad ameeriklased niimoodi,
10:36
Of course this is how Americans think.
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nii et inimesed üle kogu Lähis-Ida, mitte ainult sinu riigis,
10:38
So people all over the Middle East, not just in your country,
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hakkavad protestima.
10:41
are protesting.
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"Ta tahab põletada Koraane, meie pühi raamatuid.
10:42
"He wants to burn Qurans, our holy book.
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Need kristlased, kes nad on?
10:44
These Christians -- who are these Christians?
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Nad on nii halvad, nad on nii õelad -
10:46
They're so evil, they're so mean -- this is what they're about?"
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sellised nad ongi."
10:49
This is what you're thinking as an Arab Muslim,
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See on see, mida sa mõtled araablasest moslemina,
iraaklasena.
10:52
as an Iraqi.
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10:53
Of course you're going to think this.
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Muidugi mõtled sa nii.
10:55
And then your cousin says, "Hey coz, check out this website.
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Ja siis ütleb su onupoeg:
"Kuule, vaata seda veebilehte.
10:59
You've got to see this -- Bible Boot Camp.
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Sa pead seda nägema - noorte sõjaväeline piiblilaager.
Kristlased on hullud.
11:02
These Christians are nuts!
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11:03
They're training their little kids to be soldiers for Jesus.
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Nad treenivad väikesi lapsi Jeesuse sõduriteks.
11:06
They take little kids and run them through these things
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Nad võtavad väikesed lapsed ja lasevad neil niisuguse õppe läbida,
11:08
till they teach them how to say, 'Sir! Yes, sir!'
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õpetavad neid ütlema "Just nii"
ja kranaate heitma ning relvi hooldama.
11:11
and things like 'grenade toss' and 'weapons care and maintenance.'
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Ja sa lähed sellele veebilehele.
11:14
And go to the website -- it says 'US Army' right on it.
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Esimese asjana seisab seal tekst "USA armee".
11:17
I mean, these Christians, they're nuts.
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Kristlased on ju segased. Kuidas nad teevad midagi sellist oma väikeste lastega?"
11:19
How can they do this to their little kids?"
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Sa loed seda veebilehte.
11:21
And you're reading this website.
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11:22
And of course, Christians in the United States, or anybody,
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Loomulikult ütlevad USAs kristlased või ükskõik kes:
11:25
says, "This is some little church in the middle of nowhere."
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"See on mingi pisitilluke kirik mingis kolkas."
Aga sina ei tea seda.
11:28
You don't know that.
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11:29
For you, this is like, all Christians.
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Sinu jaoks on see tüüpiline kristlus.
11:32
It's all over the Web: "Bible Boot Camp."
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See on kõikjal veebis kättesaadav - sõjaväeline noorte piiblilaager.
11:34
And look at this.
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Ja vaadake seda:
11:36
They even teach their kids --
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nad isegi õpetavad oma lapsi -
11:37
they train them in the same way the US Marines train.
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nad treenivad neid samamoodi nagu USA merejalaväelasi.
Kas pole huvitav.
11:41
Isn't that interesting.
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11:42
And it scares you, and it frightens you.
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Ja see hirmutab sind.
11:44
So these guys, you see them.
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Näete neid mehi siin?
11:46
You see, I, Sam Richards -- I know who these guys are.
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Mina, Sam Richards, tean, kes need mehed on.
Need on minu üliõpilased, mu sõbrad.
11:50
They're my students, my friends; I know what they're thinking.
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Ma tean, mida te mõtlete: "Sa ei tea."
11:53
You don't know.
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Sinu pilgu läbi
11:54
When you see them, they're something else.
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on nad midagi muud.
11:57
They're something else.
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Sinu jaoks on nad kristlastest vallutajad.
11:59
That's what they are to you.
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Meie USAs ei näe seda niimoodi,
12:02
We don't see it that way in the United States,
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12:04
but you see it that way.
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aga sina näed.
12:09
So here.
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Palun.
12:11
Of course, you've got it wrong.
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Muidugi sa eksid.
12:13
You're generalizing. It's wrong.
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Sa üldistad. See on viga.
12:16
You don't understand the Americans.
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Sa ei mõista ameeriklasi.
12:18
It's not a Christian invasion.
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See ei ole kristlaste sissetung.
12:20
We're not just there for oil; we're there for lots of reasons.
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Me ei ole siin ainult nafta pärast, on palju muid põhjuseid.
Sa eksisid. Sa panid mööda.
12:23
You have it wrong. You've missed it.
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Ja muidugi enamik teist ei toeta ülestõusu,
12:25
And of course, most of you don't support the insurgency;
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te ei toeta ameeriklaste tapmist,
12:28
you don't support killing Americans;
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12:29
you don't support the terrorists.
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te ei toeta terroriste.
12:31
Of course you don't. Very few people do.
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Muidugi mitte. Väga vähesed inimesed toetavad.
12:33
But -- some of you do.
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Aga mõned teist toetavad.
Ja see on nende vaatepunkt.
12:37
And this is a perspective.
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12:39
OK. So now, here's what we're going to do.
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Nii, nüüd teeme me järgmist.
12:41
Step outside of your shoes that you're in right now,
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Astuge välja sellest rollist,
milles te praegu olete
12:45
and step back into your normal shoes.
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ja tagasi oma tavapärasesse olukorda.
12:47
So everyone's back in the room. OK?
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Nii, kõik on siin ruumis tagasi.
Nüüd tuleb meie radikaalne eksperiment.
12:50
Now here comes the radical experiment.
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Oleme kõik kodus tagasi.
12:52
So we're all back home.
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See foto: see naine,
12:54
This photo: this woman --
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ma tõesti tajun teda.
12:56
man, I feel her.
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Ma tajun teda.
12:58
I feel her.
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Ta on mu õde,
13:00
She's my sister,
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13:01
my wife, my cousin, my neighbor.
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mu naine, mu nõbu, mu naaber.
13:04
She's anybody to me.
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Ta on mulle ükskõik kes.
13:06
These guys standing there, everybody in the photo --
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Need mehed, kes siin seisavad, igaüks siin fotol.
13:08
I feel this photo, man.
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Ma tajun seda fotot.
Ma tahan, et te teeksite järgmist.
13:12
So here's what I want you to do.
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13:13
Let's go back to my first example, of the Chinese.
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Lähme tagasi minu esimese näite juurde hiinlaste kohta.
13:17
I want you to go there.
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Ma tahan, et te läheksite sinna.
13:19
It's all about coal, and the Chinese are here in the United States.
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Asi on kivisöes ja hiinlased on siin, USAs.
13:22
What I want you to do is picture her
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Ma tahan, et te kujutleksite teda hiinlannana,
13:24
as a Chinese woman receiving a Chinese flag
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kes saab Hiina lipu,
13:27
because her loved one has died in America in the coal uprising.
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sest tema armastatu on surnud Ameerikas,
kivisöest põhjustatud ülestõusus.
13:32
And the soldiers are Chinese,
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Need sõdurid on hiinlased
13:34
and everybody else is Chinese.
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ja kõik ülejäänud on ka hiinlased.
13:36
As an American, how do you feel about this picture?
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Mis tunnet see pilt tekitab sinus kui ameeriklases?
Mida sa sellest stseenist arvad?
13:42
What do you think about that scene?
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13:46
OK, try this. Bring it back.
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Proovige seda. Tuleme tagasi.
See on see stseen siin.
13:49
This is the scene here.
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13:50
It's an American, American soldiers,
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See on ameeriklane, ameerika sõdurid,
13:52
American woman who lost her loved one in the Middle East,
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ameeriklanna, kes kaotas oma armsama
Lähis-Idas - Iraagis või Afganistanis.
13:55
in Iraq or Afghanistan.
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Aseta end rolli,
13:58
Now, put yourself in the shoes,
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mine tagasi sellesse rolli,
14:00
go back to the shoes of an Arab Muslim living in Iraq.
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kus sa olid araablasest moslem, kes elab Iraagis.
Mida sa tunned ja mõtled
14:06
What are you feeling and thinking about this photo,
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seoses selle fotoga,
seoses selle naisega?
14:11
about this woman?
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Nii.
14:21
OK,
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14:22
now follow me on this,
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Tulge mu mõttega kaasa,
14:24
because I'm taking a big risk here.
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sest ma võtan siin suure riski.
Ma kutsun teid võtma seda riski koos minuga.
14:27
And so I'm going to invite you to take a risk with me.
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14:29
These gentlemen here, they're insurgents.
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Need mehed siin on ülestõusnud.
14:31
They were caught by the American soldiers, trying to kill Americans.
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Nad võeti kinni ameerika sõdurite poolt,
sest nad püüdsid tappa ameeriklasi.
14:35
And maybe they succeeded. Maybe they succeeded.
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Ja võib-olla neil õnnestus see.
Pange end nende ameeriklaste rolli,
14:39
Put yourself in the shoes of the Americans who caught them.
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kes nad kinni võtsid.
14:44
Can you feel the rage?
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Kas te tunnete raevu?
14:46
Can you feel that you just want to take these guys
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Kas te tunnete, et te tahaksite
14:48
and wring their necks?
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nende meeste kaela murda?
14:50
Can you go there?
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Kas te suudate seda kujutleda?
14:52
It shouldn't be that difficult.
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See ei tohiks keeruline olla.
14:54
You just -- oh, man.
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Te lihtsalt - oh pagan.
14:58
Now, put yourself in their shoes.
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Nüüd pange ennast nende rolli.
Kas need on brutaalsed tapjad
15:06
Are they brutal killers
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või patriootidest kaitsjad?
15:08
or patriotic defenders?
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Kummad?
15:11
Which one?
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15:13
Can you feel their anger,
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Kas te tunnete nende viha,
15:16
their fear,
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nende hirmu,
15:18
their rage
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1976
nende raevu
seoses sellega, mis nende maal toimub?
15:21
at what has happened in their country?
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Kas te kujutate ette,
15:23
Can you imagine that maybe one of them, in the morning,
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et võib-olla täna hommikul üks neist
15:27
bent down to their child and hugged their child
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kummardas alla ja kallistas oma last
15:30
and said, "Dear, I'll be back later.
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ja ütles: "Kullake, ma tulen hiljem koju.
15:34
I'm going out to defend your freedom, your lives.
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Ma lähen kaitsma teie vabadust, teie elu.
Ma hoolitsen meie eest,
15:38
I'm going out to look out for us,
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15:41
the future of our country."
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meie maa tuleviku eest."
Kas te suudate seda ette kujutada?
15:44
Can you imagine that?
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15:45
Can you imagine saying that?
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Kas te suudate kujutleda end seda ütlemas?
15:48
Can you go there?
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Kas te saate sellega hakkama?
15:52
What do you think they're feeling?
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Mis te arvate, mida nad tunnevad?
16:02
You see, that's empathy.
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Näete, see on empaatia.
Samuti on see mõistmine.
16:05
It's also understanding.
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16:06
[understand]
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Te võite küsida:
16:08
Now, you might ask,
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16:09
"OK, Sam, so why do you do this sort of thing?
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"Sam, miks sa sellise asjaga tegeled?
16:12
Why would you use this example of all examples?"
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Miks kasutada kõigist võimalikest just seda näidet?"
Ja mina vastan - sellepärast, et... sellepärast.
16:15
And I say, because.
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16:17
You're allowed to hate these people.
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Teil on lubatud neid inimesi vihata.
16:19
You're allowed to just hate them with every fiber of your being.
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Teil on lubatud vihata neid
iga rakuga oma kehas.
16:24
And if I can get you to step into their shoes
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Kui ma suudan panna teid
astuma nende rolli
16:28
and walk an inch -- one tiny inch --
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ja kõndima selles isegi sentimeetrit,
ühtainsat sentimeetrit,
siis kujutlege sotsioloogilist analüüsi,
16:33
then imagine the kind of sociological analysis
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16:35
that you can do in all other aspects of your life.
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mida te suudate teha oma elu teistes aspektides?
Te suudate käia terve kilomeetri,
16:40
You can walk a mile
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16:41
when it comes to understanding why that person's driving 40 miles per hour
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kui asi puutub mõistmisesse,
miks mõni inimene sõidab
kiirteel 60-kilomeetrise tunnikiirusega,
16:47
in the passing lane;
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16:49
or your teenage son;
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miks teie teismeline poeg niimoodi käitub
16:51
or your neighbor who annoys you by cutting his lawn on Sunday mornings.
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või miks teie tüütu naaber
niidab pühapäeva hommikuti muru.
16:55
Whatever it is, you can go so far.
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Mis ka ei juhtuks, te suudate seda.
16:58
And this is what I tell my students:
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Ma ütlen oma üliõpilastele:
17:00
step outside of your tiny, little world.
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astuge oma pisitillukesest maailmast välja.
17:04
Step inside of the tiny, little world of somebody else.
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Astuge sisse kellegi teise
pisitillukesse maailma.
Ja siis tehke seda veel ja veel ja veel.
17:09
And then do it again
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17:10
and do it again and do it again.
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17:12
And suddenly, all these tiny, little worlds,
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Ja äkki moodustavad need väikesed sõnad
17:14
they come together in this complex web.
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keerulise võrgustiku.
17:16
And they build a big, complex world.
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Nad moodustavad suure, keerulise maailma.
17:19
And suddenly, without realizing it,
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Ja äkki, isegi seda taipamata,
hakkate te nägema maailma teistsugusena.
17:22
you're seeing the world differently.
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17:24
Everything has changed.
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Kõik on muutunud.
17:26
Everything in your life has changed.
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Kõik teie elus on muutunud.
Ja selles ongi asja mõte.
17:29
And that's, of course, what this is about.
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Pange tähele teiste elu,
17:32
Attend to other lives,
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teistsuguseid nägemusi.
17:35
other visions.
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17:36
Listen to other people,
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Kuulake teisi inimesi,
valgustage iseennast.
17:39
enlighten ourselves.
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17:41
I'm not saying that I support the terrorists in Iraq.
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Ma ei ütle,
nagu ma toetaksin terroriste Iraagis,
aga sotsioloogina
17:46
But as a sociologist, what I am saying is:
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ütlen ma seda,
17:49
I understand.
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et ma mõistan.
17:53
And now perhaps -- perhaps -- you do, too.
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Ja nüüd võib-olla mõistate teie ka.
Aitäh.
17:58
Thank you.
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17:59
(Applause)
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(Aplaus)
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