Sam Richards: A radical experiment in empathy

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Moji učenici me često pitaju

My students often ask me, "What is sociology?"

"Što je sociologija?"

And I tell them it's the study of the way in which human beings are shaped

Kažem im: "To je znanost

o načinu na koji su ljudska bića

oblikovana stvarima koje ne vide."

by things that they don't see.

And they say, "So, how can I be a sociologist?

I oni odgovore: "Kako ja mogu biti sociolog?

How can I understand those invisible forces?"

Kako mogu razumjeti te nevidljive sile?"

I kažem im: "Empatija.

And I say, "Empathy.

Start with empathy.

Počnite s empatijom.

It all begins with empathy.

Sve počinje empatijom.

Take yourself out of your shoes,

Zaboravite svoju situaciju,

put yourself into the shoes of another person."

stavite se u situaciju druge osobe."

Here, I'll give you an example.

Evo, da vam dam primjer.

So I imagine my life if, a hundred years ago,

Zamislim kakav bi bio moj život

da je prije stotinu godina

China had been the most powerful nation in the world

Kina bila najmoćnija nacija u svijetu

and they came to the United States in search of coal.

i da su došli u SAD

u potrazi za ugljenom,

And they found it, and, in fact, they found lots of it right here.

i da su ga našli, u stvari, upravo ovdje su ga našli u velikim količinama.

And pretty soon, they began shipping that coal,

Malo po malo, počeli su izvoziti taj ugljen,

tone i tone ugljena,

ton by ton,

railcar by railcar, boatload by boatload,

gomile ugljena željeznicama i brodovima

u Kinu i ostatak svijeta.

back to China and elsewhere around the world.

Strašno su se obogatili u tom poslu.

And they got fabulously wealthy in doing so.

And they built beautiful cities

Izgradili su prekrasne gradove

all powered on that coal.

zahvaljujući tom ugljenu.

And back here in the United States,

A ovdje, u Sjedinjenim Državama,

suočili bismo se s ekonomskom propašću i očajem.

we saw economic despair, deprivation.

To sam zamislio.

This is what I saw.

I saw people struggling to get by,

Zamislio sam kako se ljudi bore da prežive,

not knowing what was what and what was next.

ne znajući što ih čeka, što je slijedeće.

And I asked myself the question:

Onda sam si postavio pitanje.

Rekoh, "Kako bi bilo moguće da tu u SAD-u budemo tako siromašni

How is it possible that we could be so poor here in the United States,

ako je ugljen tako bogat izvor,

because coal is such a wealthy resource; it's so much money?

kad vrijedi toliko mnogo novca?"

Shvatio sam da bi se to dogodilo

And I realize:

because the Chinese ingratiated themselves

zato što bi se Kinezi dodvorili

with a small ruling class here in the United States,

malenom vladajućem staležu u SAD-u

who stole all of that money and all of that wealth for themselves.

koji je sebi prisvojio sav taj novac i bogatstvo.

And the rest of us, the vast majority of us,

A ostatak nas, velika većina,

struggle to get by.

bi se borili za preživljavanje.

And the Chinese gave this small ruling elite

Kinezi bi dali ovoj malenoj vladajućoj eliti

loads of military weapons and sophisticated technology

gomile vojnih oružja i sofisticirane tehnologije

da osiguraju da ljudi kao ja

in order to ensure that people like me

would not speak out against this relationship.

ne bi mogli govoriti protiv ovakve povezanosti.

Does this sound familiar?

Zvuči li vam to poznato?

And they did things like train Americans to help protect the coal.

Na primjer,istrenirali bi Amerikance

da pomognu zaštititi ugljen.

And everywhere, there were symbols of the Chinese --

A svugdje bi bili simboli Kineza --

everywhere, a constant reminder.

svugdje, kao stalan podsjetnik.

U Kini, pak,

And back in China,

što kažu u Kini?

what do they say in China?

Nothing! They don't talk about us. They don't talk about the coal.

Ništa. Ne govore o nama. Ne govore o ugljenu.

Ako ih pitate,

If you ask them,

they'll say, "Well, you know, we need the coal.

rekli bi: "Pa, znate, ugljen, treba nam ugljen.

I mean, come on, I'm not going to turn down my thermostat.

Mislim, dajte, pa neću smanjiti svoj termostat.

Ne možete to očekivati."

You can't expect that."

And so, I get angry, and I get pissed,

I tako bih se naljutio, tako bih se razbjesnio,

as do lots of average people.

kao što većina prosječnih ljudi i čini.

I borili bismo se za sebe, postalo bi stvarno ružno.

And we fight back, and it gets really ugly.

And the Chinese respond in a very ugly way.

A Kinezi bi odgovorili na jako ružan način.

And before we know it, they send in the tanks

I prije nego trepneš, poslali bi tenkove

and they send in the troops.

i odrede,

And lots of people are dying.

i puno ljudi bi umiralo,

And it's a very, very difficult situation.

bila bi jako, jako teška situacija.

Can you imagine what you would feel

Možete li zamisliti kako biste se osjećali

u takvoj situaciji?

if you were in my shoes?

Možete li zamisliti da izađete iz ove zgrade

Can you imagine walking out of this building

and seeing a tank sitting out there,

i tamo vani vidite tenk

or a truck full of soldiers?

ili kamion pun vojnika?

Zamislite samo kako biste se osjećali.

Just imagine what you would feel, because you know why they're here;

Zato što znate zašto su tu, i znate što tu rade.

you know what they're doing here.

Osjećate samo ljutnju, i strah.

And you just feel the anger and you feel the fear.

If you can, that's empathy. That's empathy.

Ako možete, to je empatija -- to je empatija.

You've left your shoes, and you've stood in mine.

Zaboravili ste vlastitu situaciju, i uskočili u moju.

Uspjeli ste to osjetiti.

And you've got to feel that.

U redu, to je bilo zagrijavanje.

OK, so that's the warm-up.

To je bilo zagrijavanje.

That's the warm-up.

Now we're going to have the real radical experiment.

Sad ćemo imati

pravi radikalan eksperiment.

So, for the remainder of my talk, what I want you to do

Dakle, u ostatku mog govora, ono što želim od vas je

is put yourselves in the shoes of an ordinary Arab Muslim

da se stavite u situaciju

običnog Arapa muslimana

living in the Middle East --

koji živi na Bliskom Istoku --

in particular, in Iraq.

točnije, u Iraku.

And so to help you,

Da vam pomognem,

perhaps you're a member of this middle-class family in Baghdad.

možda ste član obitelji srednje klase u Bagdadu --

What you want is the best for your kids.

i samo želite najbolje za svoju djecu.

You want your kids to have a better life.

Želite da vaša djeca imaju bolji život.

And you watch the news, you pay attention.

Gledate vijesti, obraćate pažnju,

You read the newspaper, you go down to the coffee shop with your friends,

čitate novine, idete u kafić s prijateljima,

i čitate novine iz cijelog svijeta.

you read the newspapers from around the world.

Ponekad čak gledate satelitsku,

Sometimes you even watch satellite, CNN, from the United States.

CNN iz Sjedinjenih Država.

You have a sense of what the Americans are thinking.

Tako da imate ideju o čemu razmišljaju Amerikanci.

Ali zapravo, sve što želite je bolji život za sebe.

But really, you just want a better life for yourself.

To je ono što želite.

That's what you want.

You're Arab Muslim living in Iraq.

Vi ste Arap musliman koji živi u Iraku.

Želite bolji život za sebe.

You want a better life for yourself.

Evo, pustite da vam pomognem.

So here, let me help you.

Let me help you with some things that you might be thinking.

Pustite me da vam pomognem oko nekih stvari

o kojima biste mogli razmišljati.

Number one:

Kao prvo: ovaj upad u vašu zemlju

this incursion into your land these past 20 years and before --

proteklih 20 godina, a i prije,

the reason anyone is interested in your land,

razlog zbog kojeg je itko zainteresiran za vašu zemlju, posebice SAD,

and particularly the United States, is oil.

je nafta.

It's all about oil; you know that, everybody knows that.

Sve je to zbog nafte; vi to znate, svi to znaju.

People back in the United States know it's about oil.

Ljudi ovdje u Sjedinjem Državama znaju da je to zbog nafte.

It's because somebody else has a design for your resource.

To je zato što netko drugi

ima planove s vašim izvorom.

It's your resource -- it's not somebody else's.

To je vaš izvor, ne nečiji tuđi.

It's your land; it's your resource.

To je vaša zemlja, vaš izvor.

Somebody else has a design for it.

Netko drugi ima planove s njim.

I znate li zašto imaju planove?

And you know why they have a design?

You know why they have their eyes set on it?

Znate li zašto su tako usredotočeni na njega?

Zato što njihov ekonomski sustav u potpunosti

Because they have an entire economic system

ovisi o toj nafti --

that's dependent on that oil -- foreign oil,

stranoj nafti,

oil from other parts of the world that they don't own.

nafti iz dijelova svijeta koje oni ne posjeduju.

And what else do you think about these people?

I što još mislite o ovim ljudima?

Amerikanci, oni su bogataši.

The Americans, they're rich.

Come on, they live in big houses, they have big cars.

Ma dajte, pa žive u velikim kućama, imaju velike aute,

svi imaju plavu kosu, plave oči,

They all have blond hair, blue eyes. They're happy.

sretni su. To mislite. Naravno, to nije istina,

You think that. It's not true, of course, but that's the media impression.

ali to je dojam koji daju mediji, i to je ono što dobijete.

And that's what you get.

I imaju ogromne gradove,

And they have big cities,

and the cities are all dependent on oil.

a svi ti gradovi ovise o nafti.

And back home, what do you see?

Natrag kod kuće, što vidite?

Poverty, despair, struggle.

Siromaštvo, očaj, borbu.

Gledajte, vi ne živite u bogatoj zemlji.

Look, you don't live in a wealthy country.

I mean -- this is Iraq.

Ovo je Irak.

This is what you see.

Ovo je to što vidite.

You see people struggling to get by.

Vidite ljude kako se bore preživjeti.

Mislim, nije lako; vidite mnogo siromaštva.

It's not easy; you see a lot of poverty.

I osjećate nešto zbog toga.

And you feel something about this.

These people have designs for your resource,

Ovi ljudi imaju planove s vašim izvorom,

i ovo je ono što vi vidite?

and this is what you see?

Još nešto što vidite i o čemu razgovarate --

Something else you see that you talk about --

Amerikanci ne razgovaraju o tome, ali vi da.

Americans don't talk about this, but you do --

Postoji ta militarizacija svijeta,

there's this thing, this militarization of the world,

i centrirana je upravo u Sjedinjenim Državama.

and it's centered right in the United States.

Sjedinjene Države

And the United States is responsible

su odgovorne za gotovo polovicu

for almost one half of the world's military spending.

svjetskih vojnih troškova --

četiri posto svjetske populacije.

Four percent of the world's population!

I vi to osjećate, vidite, svaki dan.

And you feel it; you see it every day.

To je dio vašeg života.

It's part of your life.

And you talk about it with your friends.

I razgovarate o tome sa svojim prijateljima.

Čitate o tome.

You read about it.

And back when Saddam Hussein was in power,

I još dok je Saddam Hussein bio na vlasti,

the Americans didn't care about his crimes.

Amerikance nije bilo briga o njegovim zločinima.

When he was gassing the Kurds and gassing Iran,

Kad je ubijao Kurde plinom, i Iran,

Amerikance nije bilo briga.

they didn't care about it.

When oil was at stake,

Kad je nafta bila u pitanju,

somehow, suddenly, things mattered.

odjednom su te stvari postale bitne.

And what you see, something else:

I još nešto što vidite,

Sjedinjene Države,

the United States,

the hub of democracy around the world --

žarište demokracije diljem svijeta,

čini se da oni ne podupiru baš

they don't seem to really be supporting democratic countries

demokratske zemlje diljem svijeta.

all around the world.

There are a lot of countries, oil-producing countries,

Postoji mnogo zemalja, zemalja koje proizvode naftu,

that aren't very democratic, but supported by the United States.

koje nisu baš demokratske, ali ih Sjedinjene Države podupiru.

To je čudno.

That's odd.

Oh -- these incursions, these two wars,

Ovi upadi, ova dva rata,

the 10 years of sanctions,

deset godina sankcija,

the eight years of occupation,

osam godina okupacije,

the insurgency that's been unleashed on your people,

pobunjeništvo koje se shrvalo na vaše ljude,

stotine tisuća

the tens of thousands, the hundreds of thousands

of civilian deaths?

smrti civila,

sve zbog nafte.

All because of oil.

You can't help but think that.

Ne možete si pomoći da ne razmišljate o tome.

You talk about it.

Razgovarate o tome.

It's in the forefront of your mind, always.

To vam je stalno pred očima.

You say, "How is that possible?"

Kažete: "Kako je to moguće?"

And this man, he's everyman --

I taj čovjek, on je svaki čovjek --

your grandfather, your uncle,

vaš djed, vaš stric,

vaš otac, vaš sin,

your father, your son, your neighbor,

vaš susjed, vaš profesor, vaš učenik.

your professor, your student.

Once a life of happiness and joy

Nekad život sreće i veselja,

and suddenly, pain and sorrow.

a odjednom se pretvorio u život boli i tuge.

Svatko u vašoj zemlji

Everyone in your country has been touched by the violence,

je okusio nasilje na vlastitoj koži,

krvoproliće, bol,

the bloodshed, the pain, the horror -- everybody.

horor, svatko.

Not a single person in your country has not been touched.

Nijedna osoba u vašoj zemlji

nije to izbjegla.

Ali tu je još nešto.

But there's something else.

There's something else about these people, these Americans who are there.

Još nešto o ovim ljudima,

tim Amerikancima koji su tu.

There's something else about them that you see

Ima još nešto o njima što vi vidite -- ali oni ne.

that they don't see themselves.

Što je to što vidite? Oni su kršćani.

And what do you see? They're Christians!

They're Christians.

Oni su kršćani.

They worship the Christian God, they have crosses, they carry Bibles.

Štuju kršćanskog Boga, imaju križeve, nose Bibliju.

Their Bibles have a little insignia

Njihove Biblije imaju mali znak

koji kaže "Vojska SAD-a."

that says "US Army" on them.

And their leaders, their leaders:

A njihovi vođe, njihovi vođe,

before they send their sons and daughters off to war in your country --

prije nego pošalju svoje sinove i kćeri

u rat u vašu zemlju --

i vi znate razlog tome --

and you know the reason --

before they send them off,

prije nego ih pošalju,

they go to a Christian church, and they pray to their Christian God,

odu u kršćansku crkvu, i mole se svom kršćanskom Bogu,

i traže zaštitu i vodstvo od tog Boga.

and they ask for protection and guidance from that god.

Zašto?

Why?

Well, obviously, when people die in the war,

Jer, očito, kad ljudi umru u ratu,

they are Muslims, they are Iraqis -- they're not Americans.

oni su muslimani, oni su Iračani --

oni nisu Amerikanci.

Ne želite da Amerikanci umru. Oni štite naše odrede.

You don't want Americans to die -- "Protect Our Troops."

I osjećate nešto u vezi toga --

And you feel something about that --

naravno da osjećate.

of course you do.

And they do wonderful things.

Oni čine divne stvari.

You read about it, you hear about it.

Vi čitate o tome, čujete o tome.

They're there to build schools and help people.

Oni su tu da izgrade škole i pomognu ljudima, i to žele činiti.

That's what they want to do.

Čine divne stvari, ali isto tako čine i loše stvari,

They do wonderful things, but they also do the bad things,

a vi ne možete vidjeti razliku.

and you can't tell the difference.

I tu je taj tip, tip poput poručnika generala Williama Boykina.

And this guy, you get a guy like Lt. Gen. William Boykin.

Mislim, taj tip kaže da je vaš bog krivi bog.

Here's a guy who says that your god is a false god.

Your god's an idol; his god is the true god.

Vaš bog je idol, njegov bog je pravi Bog.

The solution to the problem in the Middle East, according to him,

Rješenje problema na Bliskom Istoku, prema njemu,

je da svi prijeđete na kršćanstvo --

is to convert you all to Christianity --

samo odbacite svoju religiju.

just get rid of your religion.

And you know that. Americans don't read about this guy.

Vi to znate. Amerikanci ne čitaju o ovom tipu.

O njemu ne znaju ništa, ali vi znate.

They don't know anything about him, but you do.

You pass it around. You pass his words around.

Širite to uokolo. Prepričavate njegove riječi.

Mislim, ovo je ozbiljno.

I mean, this is serious. You're afraid.

He was one of the leading commanders in the second invasion of Iraq.

On je bio jedan od glavnih zapovjednika u drugoj invaziji na Irak.

I mislite: "Bože, ako ovaj tip to govori,

And you're thinking, "My God, if this guy is saying that,

then all the soldiers must be saying that."

onda sigurno svi vojnici to govore."

I ta riječ,

And this word here --

George Bush called this war a crusade.

George Bush je nazvao ovaj rat križarskim.

Man, the Americans, they're just like, "Ah, crusade.

Čovječe, Amerikanci, oni misle: "Aha, križarski rat.

Svejedno. Nemam pojma".

Whatever. I don't know what that means."

Znate što to znači.

You know what it means -- it's a holy war against Muslims.

To je sveti rat protiv muslimana.

Look, invade, subdue them, take their resources.

Promotrite, napadnite, pokorite ih, uzmite im izvore.

Ako se ne žele podčiniti, ubijte ih.

If they won't submit, kill them.

O tome se radi.

That's what this is about.

And you're thinking, "My God, these Christians are coming to kill us."

I mislite si: "Moj Bože, ovi kršćani su nas došli ubiti."

Ovo je zastrašujuće.

This is frightening.

You feel frightened. Of course you feel frightened.

Prestrašeni ste. Naravno da ste prestrašeni.

And this man, Terry Jones:

I ovaj čovjek, Terry Jones,

I mean here's a guy who wants to burn Qurans, right?

taj čovjek želi spaliti Kurane.

A Amerikanci misle: "Ma, to je idiot.

And the Americans: "Ah, he's a knucklehead.

On je bivši upravitelj hotela,

He's a former hotel manager; he's got three dozen members of his church ..."

ima 40-ak članova u svojoj Crkvi."

Smiju mu se. Vi mu se ne smijete.

They laugh him off.

You don't laugh him off, because in the context of everything else,

Ne smijete se jer u kontekstu svega,

svi se dijelovi slažu.

all the pieces fit.

Mislim, naravno da Amerikanci tako to shvaćaju,

Of course this is how Americans think.

tako da ljudi svugdje na Bliskom Istoku, ne samo u vašoj zemlji,

So people all over the Middle East, not just in your country,

protestiraju.

are protesting.

"On želi spaliti Kuran, našu svetu knjigu.

"He wants to burn Qurans, our holy book.

Ovi kršćani, tko su oni?

These Christians -- who are these Christians?

Tako su zli, i pokvareni --

They're so evil, they're so mean -- this is what they're about?"

u tome im je bit."

This is what you're thinking as an Arab Muslim,

Ovako razmišljate kao Arap i musliman,

kao Iračanin.

as an Iraqi.

Of course you're going to think this.

Naravno da tako razmišljate.

And then your cousin says, "Hey coz, check out this website.

I onda vaš rođak kaže:

"Ej, pogledaj ovu stranicu.

You've got to see this -- Bible Boot Camp.

Moraš ovo vidjeti -- biblijski vojni kamp.

Ovi kršćani su luđaci.

These Christians are nuts!

They're training their little kids to be soldiers for Jesus.

Treniraju svoju djecu da budu Isusovi vojnici.

They take little kids and run them through these things

Uzmu tu svoju malu djecu, i uvježbavaju ih

till they teach them how to say, 'Sir! Yes, sir!'

dok ih ne nauče kako reći: "Da, gospodine, da!"

i kako bacati granate i voditi brigu o oružju.

and things like 'grenade toss' and 'weapons care and maintenance.'

I vi odete na tu stranicu.

And go to the website -- it says 'US Army' right on it.

Na samom vrhu kaže "Vojska SAD-a."

I mean, these Christians, they're nuts.

Mislim, ovi kršćani, oni su luđaci. Kako to mogu raditi vlastitoj djeci?

How can they do this to their little kids?"

I čitate tu stranicu.

And you're reading this website.

And of course, Christians in the United States, or anybody,

Naravno, kršćani u Sjedinjenim Državama, a i drugi, kažu:

says, "This is some little church in the middle of nowhere."

"Ma, to je neka mala crkvica bogu iza nogu."

Vi to ne znate.

You don't know that.

For you, this is like, all Christians.

Za vas, takvi su svi kršćani.

It's all over the Web: "Bible Boot Camp."

Taj biblijski vojni kamp je po cijelom Internetu.

And look at this.

I pogledajte,

They even teach their kids --

čak uče svoju djecu --

they train them in the same way the US Marines train.

treniraju ih na isti način kao i američke marince.

Kako zanimljivo.

Isn't that interesting.

And it scares you, and it frightens you.

I to vas plaši, prestravljuje.

So these guys, you see them.

Tako da ovi tipovi, vidite ih.

You see, I, Sam Richards -- I know who these guys are.

Vidite, ja, Sam Richards, znam tko su ti tipovi.

To su moji učenici, moji prijatelji.

They're my students, my friends; I know what they're thinking.

Znam što misle: "Ti ne znaš."

You don't know.

Kad ih vidite,

When you see them, they're something else.

oni su nešto drugo, netko drugi.

They're something else.

To su vama.

That's what they are to you.

Mi to ne vidimo tako u Sjedinjenim Državama,

We don't see it that way in the United States,

but you see it that way.

ali vi to vidite na taj način.

So here.

Eto.

Of course, you've got it wrong.

Naravno, krivo si shvatio.

You're generalizing. It's wrong.

Generaliziraš. To je pogrešno.

You don't understand the Americans.

Ne razumiješ Amerikance.

It's not a Christian invasion.

To nije kršćanska invazija.

We're not just there for oil; we're there for lots of reasons.

Nismo tamo samo zbog nafte, tamo smo zbog mnogo razloga.

Krivo si shvatio. Promašio si.

You have it wrong. You've missed it.

Naravno, većina vas ne podupire pobunjeništvo,

And of course, most of you don't support the insurgency;

ne podupirete ubijanje Amerikanaca;

you don't support killing Americans;

you don't support the terrorists.

ne podupirete teroriste.

Of course you don't. Very few people do.

Naravno da ne podupirete. Jako malo ljudi to čini.

But -- some of you do.

Ali neki od vas to čine.

I to je pogled.

And this is a perspective.

OK. So now, here's what we're going to do.

U redu, dakle, sad ćemo ovako.

Step outside of your shoes that you're in right now,

Zaboravite tu situaciju,

ovu u kojoj upravo jeste,

and step back into your normal shoes.

i vratite se u svoju normalnu.

So everyone's back in the room. OK?

U redu, sad smo svi natrag.

Sad idemo na radikalan eksperiment.

Now here comes the radical experiment.

Dakle, svi smo natrag.

So we're all back home.

Ova fotografija, ova žena,

This photo: this woman --

čovječe, znam kako joj je.

man, I feel her.

Znam kako joj je.

I feel her.

Ona je moja sestra,

She's my sister,

my wife, my cousin, my neighbor.

moja žena, moja rođakinja, moja susjeda.

She's anybody to me.

Ona mi je bilo tko.

These guys standing there, everybody in the photo --

Ovi tipovi koji stoje tu, svi na fotografiji.

I feel this photo, man.

Čovječe, znam kako im je na ovoj fotografiji.

Dakle, ovo želim od vas.

So here's what I want you to do.

Let's go back to my first example, of the Chinese.

Vratimo se na prvi primjer, Kineze.

I want you to go there.

Želim da odete tamo.

It's all about coal, and the Chinese are here in the United States.

Dakle, sve je zbog ugljena, i Kinezi su tu u Sjedinjenim Državama.

What I want you to do is picture her

I ono što želim od vas je da je zamislite kao Kineskinju

as a Chinese woman receiving a Chinese flag

koja prima kinesku zastavu

because her loved one has died in America in the coal uprising.

zato što je netko koga je voljela umro u Americi

u pobuni zbog ugljena.

And the soldiers are Chinese,

Vojnici su Kinezi,

and everybody else is Chinese.

i svi ostali su Kinezi.

As an American, how do you feel about this picture?

Kao Amerikanac, kako biste se osjećali zbog ove fotografije?

Što mislite o ovoj sceni?

What do you think about that scene?

OK, try this. Bring it back.

U redu, pokušajte ovo. Prisjetite se.

Ovo je ta scena.

This is the scene here.

It's an American, American soldiers,

To je Amerikanac, američki vojnik,

American woman who lost her loved one in the Middle East,

američka žena koja je izgubila nekog koga je voljela

na Bliskom Istoku -- u Iraku ili Afganistanu.

in Iraq or Afghanistan.

Sad, stavite se u situaciju,

Now, put yourself in the shoes,

stavite se u situaciju

go back to the shoes of an Arab Muslim living in Iraq.

Arapa muslimana koji živi u Iraku.

Što osjećate i o čemu razmišljate

What are you feeling and thinking about this photo,

u vezi ove fotografije,

u vezi ove žene?

about this woman?

U redu.

OK,

now follow me on this,

Sad me pratite,

because I'm taking a big risk here.

zato što sad jako riskiram.

Pozivam vas da riskirate sa mnom.

And so I'm going to invite you to take a risk with me.

These gentlemen here, they're insurgents.

Ova gospoda, to su pobunjenici.

They were caught by the American soldiers, trying to kill Americans.

Uhvatili su ih američki vojnici

dok su pokušavali ubiti Amerikance.

And maybe they succeeded. Maybe they succeeded.

Možda su i uspjeli. Možda su uspjeli.

Stavite se u situaciju

Put yourself in the shoes of the Americans who caught them.

Amerikanaca koji su ih uhvatili.

Can you feel the rage?

Možete li osjetiti bijes?

Can you feel that you just want to take these guys

Možete li osjetiti kako samo želite uzeti ove tipove

and wring their necks?

i zavrnuti im vratom?

Can you go there?

Možete li to?

It shouldn't be that difficult.

Ne bi trebalo biti tako teško.

You just -- oh, man.

Samo -- o, čovječe.

Now, put yourself in their shoes.

Sad, stavite se u njihovu situaciju.

Jesu li oni brutalni ubojice

Are they brutal killers

ili branitelji domovine?

or patriotic defenders?

Što su?

Which one?

Can you feel their anger,

Možete li osjetiti njihovu ljutnju,

their fear,

njihov strah,

their rage

njihov bijes,

zbog svega što se dogodilo u njihovoj zemlji?

at what has happened in their country?

Možete li zamisliti

Can you imagine that maybe one of them, in the morning,

da se možda jedan od njih to jutro

bent down to their child and hugged their child

sagnuo da zagrli svoje dijete

and said, "Dear, I'll be back later.

i rekao: "Milo, vratit ću se kasnije.

I'm going out to defend your freedom, your lives.

Idem braniti tvoju slobodu, tvoj život.

Idem se pobrinuti za nas,

I'm going out to look out for us,

the future of our country."

za budućnost naše zemlje."

Možete li zamisliti to?

Can you imagine that?

Can you imagine saying that?

Možete li zamisliti kako to govorite?

Can you go there?

Možete li?

What do you think they're feeling?

Što mislite da oni osjećaju?

You see, that's empathy.

Vidite, to je empatija.

To je također i razumijevanje.

It's also understanding.

[understand]

Sad biste mogli pitati:

Now, you might ask,

"OK, Sam, so why do you do this sort of thing?

"U redu, Sam, zašto činiš nešto ovakvo?

Why would you use this example of all examples?"

Zašto bi od svih primjera uzeo ovaj?"

A ja kažem: zato ... zato.

And I say, because.

You're allowed to hate these people.

Dopušteno vam je mrziti ove ljude.

You're allowed to just hate them with every fiber of your being.

Dopušteno vam je samo mrziti ih

svakom stanicom svoga bića.

And if I can get you to step into their shoes

I ako vas mogu natjerati

da se stavite u njihovu situaciju

and walk an inch -- one tiny inch --

makar na trenutak,

makar jedan mali trenutak,

zamislite vrstu sociološke analize

then imagine the kind of sociological analysis

that you can do in all other aspects of your life.

koju biste mogli napraviti u svim drugim aspektima svog života.

Mogli biste suosjećati

You can walk a mile

when it comes to understanding why that person's driving 40 miles per hour

kad bi trebalo razumjeti

zašto ona osoba vozi 65 km/h

u traci za pretjecanje,

in the passing lane;

or your teenage son;

ili vašeg sina, tinejdžera,

or your neighbor who annoys you by cutting his lawn on Sunday mornings.

ili susjeda koji vas nervira

zato što kosi travnjak nedjeljom ujutro.

Whatever it is, you can go so far.

Štogod bilo, možete tako puno.

And this is what I tell my students:

I to kažem svojim učenicima:

step outside of your tiny, little world.

izađite iz svog malenog, skučenog svijeta.

Step inside of the tiny, little world of somebody else.

Uđite u maleni skučeni svijet

nekoga drugoga.

I onda to ponovite opet i opet i opet.

And then do it again

and do it again and do it again.

And suddenly, all these tiny, little worlds,

I odjednom, svi ovi maleni skučeni svjetovi

they come together in this complex web.

se spoje u složenu mrežu.

And they build a big, complex world.

Izgrade veliki složeni svijet.

And suddenly, without realizing it,

I odjednom, bez da to uopće primijetite,

drukčije gledate svijet.

you're seeing the world differently.

Everything has changed.

Sve se promijenilo.

Everything in your life has changed.

Sve u vašem životu se promijenilo.

Naravno, o tome se radi.

And that's, of course, what this is about.

Uzmite k srcu druge živote,

Attend to other lives,

druge poglede.

other visions.

Listen to other people,

Slušajte druge ljude,

prosvijetlite sami sebe.

enlighten ourselves.

I'm not saying that I support the terrorists in Iraq.

Ne kažem da

podupirem teroriste u Iraku,

ali kao sociolog

But as a sociologist, what I am saying is:

pokušavam reći

I understand.

da razumijem.

And now perhaps -- perhaps -- you do, too.

A možda sada -- možda -- i vi razumijete.

Hvala vam.

Thank you.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)