The neurons that shaped civilization | VS Ramachandran

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I'd like to talk to you today about the human brain,
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which is what we do research on at the University of California.
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Just think about this problem for a second.
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Here is a lump of flesh, about three pounds,
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which you can hold in the palm of your hand.
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But it can contemplate the vastness of interstellar space.
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It can contemplate the meaning of infinity,
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ask questions about the meaning of its own existence,
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about the nature of God.
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And this is truly the most amazing thing in the world.
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It's the greatest mystery confronting human beings:
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How does this all come about?
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Well, the brain, as you know, is made up of neurons.
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We're looking at neurons here.
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There are 100 billion neurons in the adult human brain.
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And each neuron makes something like 1,000 to 10,000 contacts
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with other neurons in the brain.
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And based on this, people have calculated
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that the number of permutations and combinations of brain activity
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exceeds the number of elementary particles in the universe.
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So, how do you go about studying the brain?
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One approach is to look at patients who had lesions
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in different part of the brain, and study changes in their behavior.
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This is what I spoke about in the last TED.
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Today I'll talk about a different approach,
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which is to put electrodes in different parts of the brain,
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and actually record the activity of individual nerve cells in the brain.
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Sort of eavesdrop on the activity of nerve cells in the brain.
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Now, one recent discovery that has been made
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by researchers in Italy, in Parma,
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by Giacomo Rizzolatti and his colleagues,
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is a group of neurons called mirror neurons,
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which are on the front of the brain in the frontal lobes.
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Now, it turns out there are neurons
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which are called ordinary motor command neurons in the front of the brain,
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which have been known for over 50 years.
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These neurons will fire when a person performs a specific action.
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For example, if I do that, and reach and grab an apple,
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a motor command neuron in the front of my brain will fire.
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If I reach out and pull an object, another neuron will fire,
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commanding me to pull that object.
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These are called motor command neurons that have been known for a long time.
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But what Rizzolatti found was
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a subset of these neurons,
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maybe about 20 percent of them, will also fire
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when I'm looking at somebody else performing the same action.
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So, here is a neuron that fires when I reach and grab something,
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but it also fires when I watch Joe reaching and grabbing something.
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And this is truly astonishing.
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Because it's as though this neuron is adopting
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the other person's point of view.
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It's almost as though it's performing a virtual reality simulation
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of the other person's action.
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Now, what is the significance of these mirror neurons?
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For one thing they must be involved in things like imitation and emulation.
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Because to imitate a complex act
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requires my brain to adopt the other person's point of view.
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So, this is important for imitation and emulation.
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Well, why is that important?
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Well, let's take a look at the next slide.
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So, how do you do imitation? Why is imitation important?
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Mirror neurons and imitation, emulation.
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Now, let's look at culture, the phenomenon of human culture.
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If you go back in time about [75,000] to 100,000 years ago,
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let's look at human evolution, it turns out
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that something very important happened around 75,000 years ago.
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And that is, there is a sudden emergence and rapid spread
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of a number of skills that are unique to human beings
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like tool use,
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the use of fire, the use of shelters, and, of course, language,
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and the ability to read somebody else's mind
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and interpret that person's behavior.
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All of that happened relatively quickly.
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Even though the human brain had achieved its present size
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almost three or four hundred thousand years ago,
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100,000 years ago all of this happened very, very quickly.
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And I claim that what happened was
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the sudden emergence of a sophisticated mirror neuron system,
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which allowed you to emulate and imitate other people's actions.
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So that when there was a sudden accidental discovery
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by one member of the group, say the use of fire,
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or a particular type of tool, instead of dying out,
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this spread rapidly, horizontally across the population,
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or was transmitted vertically, down the generations.
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So, this made evolution suddenly Lamarckian,
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instead of Darwinian.
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Darwinian evolution is slow; it takes hundreds of thousands of years.
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A polar bear, to evolve a coat,
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will take thousands of generations, maybe 100,000 years.
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A human being, a child, can just watch its parent
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kill another polar bear,
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and skin it and put the skin on its body, fur on the body,
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and learn it in one step. What the polar bear
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took 100,000 years to learn,
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it can learn in five minutes, maybe 10 minutes.
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And then once it's learned this it spreads
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in geometric proportion across a population.
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This is the basis. The imitation of complex skills
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is what we call culture and is the basis of civilization.
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Now there is another kind of mirror neuron,
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which is involved in something quite different.
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And that is, there are mirror neurons,
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just as there are mirror neurons for action, there are mirror neurons for touch.
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In other words, if somebody touches me,
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my hand, neuron in the somatosensory cortex
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in the sensory region of the brain fires.
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But the same neuron, in some cases, will fire
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when I simply watch another person being touched.
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So, it's empathizing the other person being touched.
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So, most of them will fire when I'm touched
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in different locations. Different neurons for different locations.
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But a subset of them will fire even when I watch somebody else
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being touched in the same location.
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So, here again you have neurons
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which are enrolled in empathy.
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Now, the question then arises: If I simply watch another person being touched,
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why do I not get confused and literally feel that touch sensation
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merely by watching somebody being touched?
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I mean, I empathize with that person but I don't literally feel the touch.
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Well, that's because you've got receptors in your skin,
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touch and pain receptors, going back into your brain
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and saying "Don't worry, you're not being touched.
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So, empathize, by all means, with the other person,
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but do not actually experience the touch,
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otherwise you'll get confused and muddled."
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Okay, so there is a feedback signal
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that vetoes the signal of the mirror neuron
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preventing you from consciously experiencing that touch.
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But if you remove the arm, you simply anesthetize my arm,
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so you put an injection into my arm,
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anesthetize the brachial plexus, so the arm is numb,
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and there is no sensations coming in,
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if I now watch you being touched,
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I literally feel it in my hand.
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In other words, you have dissolved the barrier
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between you and other human beings.
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So, I call them Gandhi neurons, or empathy neurons.
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(Laughter)
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And this is not in some abstract metaphorical sense.
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All that's separating you from him,
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from the other person, is your skin.
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Remove the skin, you experience that person's touch in your mind.
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You've dissolved the barrier between you and other human beings.
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And this, of course, is the basis of much of Eastern philosophy,
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and that is there is no real independent self,
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aloof from other human beings, inspecting the world,
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inspecting other people.
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You are, in fact, connected not just via Facebook and Internet,
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you're actually quite literally connected by your neurons.
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And there is whole chains of neurons around this room, talking to each other.
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And there is no real distinctiveness
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of your consciousness from somebody else's consciousness.
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And this is not mumbo-jumbo philosophy.
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It emerges from our understanding of basic neuroscience.
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So, you have a patient with a phantom limb. If the arm has been removed
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and you have a phantom, and you watch somebody else
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being touched, you feel it in your phantom.
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Now the astonishing thing is,
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if you have pain in your phantom limb, you squeeze the other person's hand,
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massage the other person's hand,
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that relieves the pain in your phantom hand,
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almost as though the neuron
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were obtaining relief from merely
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watching somebody else being massaged.
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So, here you have my last slide.
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For the longest time people have regarded science
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and humanities as being distinct.
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C.P. Snow spoke of the two cultures:
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science on the one hand, humanities on the other;
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never the twain shall meet.
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So, I'm saying the mirror neuron system underlies the interface
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allowing you to rethink about issues like consciousness,
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representation of self,
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what separates you from other human beings,
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what allows you to empathize with other human beings,
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and also even things like the emergence of culture and civilization,
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which is unique to human beings. Thank you.
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(Applause)
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