How to spot a liar | Pamela Meyer | TED

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Okay, now I don't want to alarm anybody in this room,
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but it's just come to my attention that the person to your right is a liar.
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(Laughter)
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Also, the person to your left is a liar.
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Also the person sitting in your very seats is a liar.
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We're all liars.
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What I'm going to do today
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is I'm going to show you what the research says about why we're all liars,
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how you can become a liespotter
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and why you might want to go the extra mile
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and go from liespotting to truth seeking,
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and ultimately to trust building.
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Now, speaking of trust,
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ever since I wrote this book, "Liespotting,"
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no one wants to meet me in person anymore, no, no, no, no, no.
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They say, "It's okay, we'll email you."
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(Laughter)
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I can't even get a coffee date at Starbucks.
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My husband's like, "Honey, deception?
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Maybe you could have focused on cooking. How about French cooking?"
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So before I get started, what I'm going to do
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is I'm going to clarify my goal for you,
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which is not to teach a game of Gotcha.
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Liespotters aren't those nitpicky kids,
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those kids in the back of the room that are shouting, "Gotcha! Gotcha!
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Your eyebrow twitched. You flared your nostril.
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I watch that TV show 'Lie To Me.' I know you're lying."
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No, liespotters are armed
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with scientific knowledge of how to spot deception.
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They use it to get to the truth,
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and they do what mature leaders do everyday;
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they have difficult conversations with difficult people,
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sometimes during very difficult times.
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And they start up that path by accepting a core proposition,
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and that proposition is the following:
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Lying is a cooperative act.
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Think about it, a lie has no power whatsoever by its mere utterance.
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Its power emerges
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when someone else agrees to believe the lie.
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So I know it may sound like tough love,
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but look, if at some point you got lied to,
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it's because you agreed to get lied to.
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Truth number one about lying: Lying's a cooperative act.
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Now not all lies are harmful.
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Sometimes we're willing participants in deception
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for the sake of social dignity,
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maybe to keep a secret that should be kept secret, secret.
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We say, "Nice song."
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"Honey, you don't look fat in that, no."
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Or we say, favorite of the digiratti,
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"You know, I just fished that email out of my Spam folder.
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So sorry."
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But there are times when we are unwilling participants in deception.
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And that can have dramatic costs for us.
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Last year saw 997 billion dollars
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in corporate fraud alone in the United States.
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That's an eyelash under a trillion dollars.
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That's seven percent of revenues.
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Deception can cost billions.
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Think Enron, Madoff, the mortgage crisis.
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Or in the case of double agents and traitors,
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like Robert Hanssen or Aldrich Ames,
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lies can betray our country,
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they can compromise our security, they can undermine democracy,
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they can cause the deaths of those that defend us.
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Deception is actually serious business.
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This con man, Henry Oberlander, he was such an effective con man,
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British authorities say
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he could have undermined the entire banking system of the Western world.
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And you can't find this guy on Google; you can't find him anywhere.
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He was interviewed once, and he said the following.
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He said, "Look, I've got one rule."
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And this was Henry's rule, he said,
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"Look, everyone is willing to give you something.
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They're ready to give you something for whatever it is they're hungry for."
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And that's the crux of it.
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If you don't want to be deceived, you have to know,
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what is it that you're hungry for?
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And we all kind of hate to admit it.
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We wish we were better husbands, better wives,
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smarter, more powerful, taller, richer --
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the list goes on.
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Lying is an attempt to bridge that gap,
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to connect our wishes and our fantasies
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about who we wish we were, how we wish we could be,
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with what we're really like.
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And boy are we willing to fill in those gaps in our lives with lies.
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On a given day, studies show that you may be lied to
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anywhere from 10 to 200 times.
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Now granted, many of those are white lies.
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But in another study,
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it showed that strangers lied three times
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within the first 10 minutes of meeting each other.
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(Laughter)
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Now when we first hear this data, we recoil.
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We can't believe how prevalent lying is.
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We're essentially against lying.
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But if you look more closely, the plot actually thickens.
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We lie more to strangers than we lie to coworkers.
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Extroverts lie more than introverts.
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Men lie eight times more about themselves than they do other people.
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Women lie more to protect other people.
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If you're an average married couple,
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you're going to lie to your spouse in one out of every 10 interactions.
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Now, you may think that's bad.
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If you're unmarried, that number drops to three.
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Lying's complex.
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It's woven into the fabric of our daily and our business lives.
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We're deeply ambivalent about the truth.
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We parse it out on an as-needed basis,
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sometimes for very good reasons,
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other times just because we don't understand the gaps in our lives.
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That's truth number two about lying.
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We're against lying,
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but we're covertly for it
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in ways that our society has sanctioned for centuries and centuries and centuries.
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It's as old as breathing.
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It's part of our culture, it's part of our history.
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Think Dante, Shakespeare, the Bible, News of the World.
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(Laughter)
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Lying has evolutionary value to us as a species.
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Researchers have long known that the more intelligent the species,
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the larger the neocortex,
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the more likely it is to be deceptive.
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Now you might remember Koko.
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Does anybody remember Koko the gorilla who was taught sign language?
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Koko was taught to communicate via sign language.
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Here's Koko with her kitten.
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It's her cute little, fluffy pet kitten.
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Koko once blamed her pet kitten for ripping a sink out of the wall.
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(Laughter)
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We're hardwired to become leaders of the pack.
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It's starts really, really early.
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How early?
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Well babies will fake a cry,
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pause, wait to see who's coming
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and then go right back to crying.
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One-year-olds learn concealment.
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(Laughter)
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Two-year-olds bluff.
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Five-year-olds lie outright.
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They manipulate via flattery.
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Nine-year-olds, masters of the cover-up.
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By the time you enter college,
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you're going to lie to your mom in one out of every five interactions.
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By the time we enter this work world and we're breadwinners,
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we enter a world that is just cluttered with Spam, fake digital friends,
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partisan media,
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ingenious identity thieves,
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world-class Ponzi schemers,
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a deception epidemic --
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in short, what one author calls a post-truth society.
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It's been very confusing for a long time now.
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What do you do?
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Well, there are steps we can take to navigate our way through the morass.
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Trained liespotters get to the truth 90 percent of the time.
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The rest of us, we're only 54 percent accurate.
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Why is it so easy to learn?
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There are good liars and bad liars.
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There are no real original liars.
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We all make the same mistakes. We all use the same techniques.
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So what I'm going to do is I'm going to show you two patterns of deception.
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And then we're going to look at the hot spots
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and see if we can find them ourselves.
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We're going to start with speech.
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(Video) Bill Clinton: I want you to listen to me.
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I'm going to say this again.
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I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky.
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I never told anybody to lie, not a single time, never.
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And these allegations are false.
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And I need to go back to work for the American people.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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Pamela Meyer: Okay, what were the telltale signs?
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Well first we heard what's known as a non-contracted denial.
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Studies show that people who are overdetermined in their denial
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will resort to formal rather than informal language.
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We also heard distancing language: "that woman."
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We know that liars will unconsciously distance themselves
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from their subject,
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using language as their tool.
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Now if Bill Clinton had said, "Well, to tell you the truth ..."
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or Richard Nixon's favorite, "In all candor ..."
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he would have been a dead giveaway
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for any liespotter that knows
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that qualifying language, as it's called, qualifying language like that,
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further discredits the subject.
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Now if he had repeated the question in its entirety,
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or if he had peppered his account with a little too much detail --
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and we're all really glad he didn't do that --
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he would have further discredited himself.
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Freud had it right.
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Freud said, look, there's much more to it than speech:
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"No mortal can keep a secret.
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If his lips are silent, he chatters with his fingertips."
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And we all do it no matter how powerful you are.
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We all chatter with our fingertips.
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I'm going to show you Dominique Strauss-Kahn with Obama
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who's chattering with his fingertips.
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(Laughter)
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Now this brings us to our next pattern, which is body language.
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With body language, here's what you've got to do.
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You've really got to just throw your assumptions out the door.
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Let the science temper your knowledge a little bit.
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Because we think liars fidget all the time.
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Well guess what, they're known to freeze their upper bodies when they're lying.
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We think liars won't look you in the eyes.
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Well guess what, they look you in the eyes a little too much
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just to compensate for that myth.
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We think warmth and smiles convey honesty, sincerity.
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But a trained liespotter can spot a fake smile a mile away.
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Can you all spot the fake smile here?
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You can consciously contract the muscles in your cheeks.
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But the real smile's in the eyes, the crow's feet of the eyes.
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They cannot be consciously contracted,
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especially if you overdid the Botox.
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Don't overdo the Botox; nobody will think you're honest.
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Now we're going to look at the hot spots.
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Can you tell what's happening in a conversation?
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Can you start to find the hot spots
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to see the discrepancies
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between someone's words and someone's actions?
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Now, I know it seems really obvious,
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but when you're having a conversation with someone you suspect of deception,
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attitude is by far the most overlooked but telling of indicators.
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An honest person is going to be cooperative.
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They're going to show they're on your side.
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They're going to be enthusiastic.
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They're going to be willing and helpful to getting you to the truth.
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They're going to be willing to brainstorm, name suspects,
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provide details.
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They're going to say,
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"Hey, maybe it was those guys in payroll that forged those checks."
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They're going to be infuriated if they sense they're wrongly accused
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throughout the entire course of the interview, not just in flashes;
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they'll be infuriated throughout the entire course of the interview.
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And if you ask someone honest
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what should happen to whomever did forge those checks,
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an honest person is much more likely
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to recommend strict rather than lenient punishment.
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Now let's say you're having that exact same conversation
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with someone deceptive.
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That person may be withdrawn,
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look down, lower their voice,
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pause, be kind of herky-jerky.
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Ask a deceptive person to tell their story,
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they're going to pepper it with way too much detail
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in all kinds of irrelevant places.
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And then they're going to tell their story in strict chronological order.
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And what a trained interrogator does
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is they come in and in very subtle ways over the course of several hours,
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they will ask that person to tell that story backwards,
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and then they'll watch them squirm,
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and track which questions produce the highest volume of deceptive tells.
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Why do they do that? Well, we all do the same thing.
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We rehearse our words,
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but we rarely rehearse our gestures.
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We say "yes," we shake our heads "no."
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We tell very convincing stories, we slightly shrug our shoulders.
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We commit terrible crimes,
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and we smile at the delight in getting away with it.
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Now, that smile is known in the trade as "duping delight."
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And we're going to see that in several videos moving forward,
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but we're going to start -- for those of you who don't know him,
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this is presidential candidate John Edwards
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who shocked America by fathering a child out of wedlock.
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We're going to see him talk about getting a paternity test.
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See now if you can spot him saying, "yes" while shaking his head "no,"
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slightly shrugging his shoulders.
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(Video) John Edwards: I'd be happy to participate in one.
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I know that it's not possible that this child could be mine,
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because of the timing of events.
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So I know it's not possible.
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Happy to take a paternity test, and would love to see it happen.
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Interviewer: Are you going to do that soon? Is there somebody --
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JE: Well, I'm only one side. I'm only one side of the test.
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But I'm happy to participate in one.
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PM: Okay, those head shakes are much easier to spot
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once you know to look for them.
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There are going to be times when someone makes one expression
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while masking another that just kind of leaks through in a flash.
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Murderers are known to leak sadness.
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Your new joint venture partner might shake your hand,
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celebrate, go out to dinner with you and then leak an expression of anger.
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And we're not all going to become facial expression experts overnight here,
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but there's one I can teach you that's very dangerous
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and it's easy to learn,
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and that's the expression of contempt.
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Now with anger, you've got two people on an even playing field.
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It's still somewhat of a healthy relationship.
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But when anger turns to contempt, you've been dismissed.
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It's associated with moral superiority.
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And for that reason, it's very, very hard to recover from.
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Here's what it looks like.
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It's marked by one lip corner pulled up and in.
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It's the only asymmetrical expression.
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And in the presence of contempt, whether or not deception follows --
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and it doesn't always follow --
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look the other way, go the other direction,
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reconsider the deal,
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say, "No thank you. I'm not coming up for just one more nightcap. Thank you."
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Science has surfaced many, many more indicators.
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We know, for example,
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we know liars will shift their blink rate,
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point their feet towards an exit.
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They will take barrier objects
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and put them between themselves and the person that is interviewing them.
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They'll alter their vocal tone,
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often making their vocal tone much lower.
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Now here's the deal.
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These behaviors are just behaviors.
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They're not proof of deception.
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They're red flags.
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We're human beings.
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We make deceptive flailing gestures all over the place all day long.
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They don't mean anything in and of themselves.
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But when you see clusters of them, that's your signal.
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Look, listen, probe, ask some hard questions,
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get out of that very comfortable mode of knowing,
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walk into curiosity mode, ask more questions,
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have a little dignity, treat the person you're talking to with rapport.
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Don't try to be like those folks on "Law & Order" and those other TV shows
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that pummel their subjects into submission.
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Don't be too aggressive, it doesn't work.
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Now, we've talked a little bit about how to talk to someone who's lying
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and how to spot a lie.
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And as I promised, we're now going to look at what the truth looks like.
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But I'm going to show you two videos,
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two mothers -- one is lying, one is telling the truth.
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And these were surfaced by researcher David Matsumoto in California.
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And I think they're an excellent example of what the truth looks like.
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This mother, Diane Downs,
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shot her kids at close range,
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drove them to the hospital while they bled all over the car,
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claimed a scraggy-haired stranger did it.
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And you'll see when you see the video,
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she can't even pretend to be an agonizing mother.
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What you want to look for here is an incredible discrepancy
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between horrific events that she describes and her very, very cool demeanor.
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And if you look closely, you'll see duping delight throughout this video.
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(Video) Diane Downs: At night when I close my eyes,
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I can see Christie reaching her hand out to me while I'm driving,
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and the blood just kept coming out of her mouth.
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And that -- maybe it'll fade too with time --
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but I don't think so.
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That bothers me the most.
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PM: Now I'm going to show you a video
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of an actual grieving mother, Erin Runnion,
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confronting her daughter's murderer and torturer in court.
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Here you're going to see no false emotion,
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just the authentic expression of a mother's agony.
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(Video) Erin Runnion: I wrote this statement
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on the third anniversary of the night you took my baby,
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and you hurt her,
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and you crushed her,
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you terrified her until her heart stopped.
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And she fought, and I know she fought you.
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But I know she looked at you with those amazing brown eyes,
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and you still wanted to kill her.
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And I don't understand it,
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and I never will.
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PM: Okay, there's no doubting the veracity of those emotions.
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Now the technology around what the truth looks like
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is progressing on, the science of it.
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We know, for example,
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that we now have specialized eye trackers and infrared brain scans,
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MRI's that can decode the signals that our bodies send out
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when we're trying to be deceptive.
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And these technologies are going to be marketed to all of us
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as panaceas for deceit,
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and they will prove incredibly useful some day.
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But you've got to ask yourself in the meantime:
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Who do you want on your side of the meeting,
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someone who's trained in getting to the truth
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or some guy who's going to drag a 400-pound electroencephalogram
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through the door?
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Liespotters rely on human tools.
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They know, as someone once said,
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"Character's who you are in the dark."
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And what's kind of interesting is that today, we have so little darkness.
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Our world is lit up 24 hours a day.
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It's transparent with blogs and social networks
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broadcasting the buzz of a whole new generation of people
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that have made a choice to live their lives in public.
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It's a much more noisy world.
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So one challenge we have is to remember,
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oversharing, that's not honesty.
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Our manic tweeting and texting can blind us
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to the fact that the subtleties of human decency -- character integrity --
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that's still what matters, that's always what's going to matter.
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So in this much noisier world,
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it might make sense for us
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to be just a little bit more explicit about our moral code.
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When you combine the science of recognizing deception
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with the art of looking, listening,
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you exempt yourself from collaborating in a lie.
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You start up that path of being just a little bit more explicit,
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because you signal to everyone around you,
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you say, "Hey, my world, our world, it's going to be an honest one.
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My world is going to be one where truth is strengthened
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and falsehood is recognized and marginalized."
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And when you do that,
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the ground around you starts to shift just a little bit.
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And that's the truth. Thank you.
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(Applause)
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