Why you think you're right -- even if you're wrong | Julia Galef

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Translator: Yang He Reviewer: Tim Yan
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So I'd like you to imagine for a moment
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請大家想像下
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that you're a soldier in the heat of battle.
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自己係個打緊仗嘅士兵
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Maybe you're a Roman foot soldier or a medieval archer
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可能係個羅馬步兵 或者係中世紀嘅弓箭手
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or maybe you're a Zulu warrior.
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又或者係祖魯戰士
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Regardless of your time and place, there are some things that are constant.
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無論你身處何時何地 有啲嘢係唔會變嘅
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Your adrenaline is elevated,
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你嘅腎上腺素會升高
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and your actions are stemming from these deeply ingrained reflexes,
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你嘅行為,其實根植於 呢啲反射動作之中
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reflexes rooted in a need to protect yourself and your side
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呢啲用黎保護你自己
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and to defeat the enemy.
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同埋打敗敵人嘅反射動作
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So now, I'd like you to imagine playing a very different role,
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所以依家我希望 你哋諗下喺頭先嘅情境中
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that of the scout.
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自己扮演唔同嘅角色:偵察兵
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The scout's job is not to attack or defend.
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偵察兵唔洗攻擊或者防禦
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The scout's job is to understand.
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任務只係要了解情況
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The scout is the one going out,
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偵察兵要行出去
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mapping the terrain, identifying potential obstacles.
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畫出敵方嘅地圖 了解潛在嘅阻礙物
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And the scout may hope to learn that, say, there's a bridge
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偵察兵希望了解嘅係譬如 一個方便過河嘅位置
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in a convenient location across a river.
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係唔係有一座橋
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But above all, the scout wants to know what's really there,
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不過更加重要嘅係,偵察兵希望 了解嗰度究竟有啲咩
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as accurately as possible.
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知得越精確越好
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And in a real, actual army, both the soldier and the scout are essential.
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正如真正嘅軍隊入面 士兵同偵察兵都好重要
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But you can also think of each of these roles as a mindset --
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不過你又可以當呢啲 角色代表緊啲思維方式
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a metaphor for how all of us process information and ideas
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比喻緊我哋喺日常生活之中
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in our daily lives.
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接收信息同諗嘢嘅過程
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What I'm going to argue today is that having good judgment,
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我哋今日想講嘅就係 要擁有優秀嘅判斷力
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making accurate predictions, making good decisions,
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要作出精確嘅預測、正確嘅決定
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is mostly about which mindset you're in.
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主要取決於你嘅思維方式
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To illustrate these mindsets in action,
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依家我哋可以實際 展示下呢種思維方式
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I'm going to take you back to 19th-century France,
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我會帶住你地去 十九世紀嘅法國
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where this innocuous-looking piece of paper
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喺嗰度,呢張睇落微不足道嘅紙仔
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launched one of the biggest political scandals in history.
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引發咗歷史上 數一數二嘅政治醜聞
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It was discovered in 1894 by officers in the French general staff.
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1894 年,有啲法國公務員發現
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It was torn up in a wastepaper basket,
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垃圾桶裡面一張撕碎嘅紙
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but when they pieced it back together,
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將啲紙砌返埋之後
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they discovered that someone in their ranks
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佢哋發現隊伍裡面有人
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had been selling military secrets to Germany.
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偷偷地賣軍事機密畀德國
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So they launched a big investigation,
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於是佢哋開始咗個大規模嘅調查
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and their suspicions quickly converged on this man,
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調查結果好快指向一個人
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Alfred Dreyfus.
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阿弗列 ‧ 屈里弗斯
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He had a sterling record,
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佢嘅信用紀錄幾好
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no past history of wrongdoing, no motive as far as they could tell.
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之前無做錯過嘢 又唔似有犯案動機
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But Dreyfus was the only Jewish officer at that rank in the army,
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但係,屈里弗斯係隊伍 入面唯一一個猶太軍官
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and unfortunately at this time, the French Army was highly anti-Semitic.
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不幸嘅係,嗰時法國軍隊好歧視猶太人
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They compared Dreyfus's handwriting to that on the memo
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佢哋攞屈里弗斯嘅字跡同嗰張紙做比較
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and concluded that it was a match,
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發現係一致嘅
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even though outside professional handwriting experts
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雖然其他筆跡專家
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were much less confident in the similarity,
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覺得冇咁似
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but never mind that.
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但係無論點
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They went and searched Dreyfus's apartment,
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佢哋去咗屈里弗斯間屋
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looking for any signs of espionage.
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搵佢做間諜嘅痕跡
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They went through his files, and they didn't find anything.
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佢哋搵暈曬佢啲文件 都搵唔到證據
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This just convinced them more that Dreyfus was not only guilty,
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佢哋反而覺得屈里弗斯一定係做緊間諜
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but sneaky as well, because clearly he had hidden all of the evidence
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仲超級狡猾,係佢哋嚟到之前
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before they had managed to get to it.
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已經將啲罪證收起曬
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Next, they went and looked through his personal history
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跟著落嚟,佢哋去查佢嘅個人歷史
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for any incriminating details.
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試圖尋找犯罪嘅痕跡
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They talked to his teachers,
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佢哋向佢嘅老師問話
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they found that he had studied foreign languages in school,
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發現佢喺學校學過外語
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which clearly showed a desire to conspire with foreign governments
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就覺得佢一定係為咗之後
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later in life.
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做外國間諜
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His teachers also said that Dreyfus was known for having a good memory,
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佢嘅老師仲話 屈里弗斯記憶力好,好到出曬名
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which was highly suspicious, right?
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真係太可疑啦,係咪?
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You know, because a spy has to remember a lot of things.
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因為你知啦 間諜係需要記住好多嘢㗎嘛
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So the case went to trial, and Dreyfus was found guilty.
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呢單案件上咗法庭 屈里弗斯被判有罪
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Afterwards, they took him out into this public square
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之後,佢哋將佢帶到廣場上
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and ritualistically tore his insignia from his uniform
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依足規矩咁扯走佢嘅徽章
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and broke his sword in two.
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又將佢嘅劍折成兩段
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This was called the Degradation of Dreyfus.
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呢個就係屈里弗斯降級事件
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And they sentenced him to life imprisonment
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佢哋判咗佢終身監禁
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on the aptly named Devil's Island,
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將佢流放到南美洲海岸
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which is this barren rock off the coast of South America.
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一個叫做魔鬼島嘅荒涼小島上
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So there he went, and there he spent his days alone,
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佢之後就去咗嗰度淒涼度日
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writing letters and letters to the French government
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寫左一封又一封信畀法國政府
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begging them to reopen his case so they could discover his innocence.
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求佢哋重新審過單案時 會察覺佢係無辜嘅
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But for the most part, France considered the matter closed.
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但係大家都覺得 呢單案已經完曬
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One thing that's really interesting to me about the Dreyfus Affair
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我覺得屈里弗斯事件 好有意思嘅一個地方
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is this question of why the officers were so convinced
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就係嗰啲官員點解咁肯定
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that Dreyfus was guilty.
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屈里弗斯係有罪嘅呢
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I mean, you might even assume that they were setting him up,
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你甚至會覺得 佢地設佢局
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that they were intentionally framing him.
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特登陷害佢
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But historians don't think that's what happened.
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不過歷史學家都唔係咁諗
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As far as we can tell,
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我哋可以睇到
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the officers genuinely believed that the case against Dreyfus was strong.
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個啲官真係覺得 控訴屈里弗斯嘅理據十足
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Which makes you wonder:
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呢件事令人奇怪
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What does it say about the human mind
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人類個腦到底有咩問題
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that we can find such paltry evidence
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以至咁丁點嘅證據
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to be compelling enough to convict a man?
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都可以說服到人判佢有罪?
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Well, this is a case of what scientists call "motivated reasoning."
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係咁嘅,科學家發現一種 叫做「動機性推理」嘅現象
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It's this phenomenon in which our unconscious motivations,
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係指我哋嘅潛意識
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our desires and fears,
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我哋嘅慾望同恐懼
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shape the way we interpret information.
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塑造咗我哋分析信息嘅方式
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Some information, some ideas, feel like our allies.
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有啲信息,有啲諗法 對我哋嚟講好似朋友
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We want them to win. We want to defend them.
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我哋想佢地贏 我哋想護住佢哋
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And other information or ideas are the enemy,
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有啲信息好似仇人咁樣
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and we want to shoot them down.
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我哋想消滅佢哋
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So this is why I call motivated reasoning, "soldier mindset."
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所以我鐘意叫動機性推理 做「士兵思維」
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Probably most of you have never persecuted
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你哋就從未迫害過
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a French-Jewish officer for high treason,
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猶太裔法國軍官,話佢係叛徒
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I assume,
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我估係呱
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but maybe you've followed sports or politics, so you might have noticed
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不過你如果鍾意睇體育 或者政治新聞
你可能已經留意到
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that when the referee judges that your team committed a foul,
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譬如,當個裁判話
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for example,
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你鍾意嗰隊犯規
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you're highly motivated to find reasons why he's wrong.
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你就會好想搵理由講 佢點解判錯咗
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But if he judges that the other team committed a foul -- awesome!
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不過如果佢判另外嗰隊 犯咗規,你就會覺得好啱
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That's a good call, let's not examine it too closely.
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這個例子幾好 但大家唔好咁認真
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Or, maybe you've read an article or a study
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或者,你可能啱啱先讀咗一篇
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that examined some controversial policy,
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有關一啲爭議嘅文章或者研究
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like capital punishment.
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譬如應唔應該有死刑
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And, as researchers have demonstrated,
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啲研究員發現
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if you support capital punishment
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如果你支持死刑
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and the study shows that it's not effective,
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但係篇文話死刑無用嘅話
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then you're highly motivated to find all the reasons
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你就會好想搵出
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why the study was poorly designed.
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呢份報告邊度寫得唔好
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But if it shows that capital punishment works,
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不過如果篇文支持死刑
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it's a good study.
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你就會覺得佢寫得好好
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And vice versa: if you don't support capital punishment, same thing.
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反之亦然:如果你唔 支持死刑,都係一樣嘅
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Our judgment is strongly influenced, unconsciously,
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我哋嘅判斷力喺無意之中
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by which side we want to win.
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受我哋嘅立場好大影響
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And this is ubiquitous.
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呢個現象好普遍
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This shapes how we think about our health, our relationships,
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決定緊我哋點睇 健康同人際關係
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how we decide how to vote,
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點投票
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what we consider fair or ethical.
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點先覺得係公平或者合乎道德
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What's most scary to me about motivated reasoning
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最驚嚇嘅係
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or soldier mindset,
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動機性推理或者士兵思維
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is how unconscious it is.
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都係完全無意嘅
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We can think we're being objective and fair-minded
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我哋以為自己好公正、好客觀
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and still wind up ruining the life of an innocent man.
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但係都可以冤死無辜嘅人
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However, fortunately for Dreyfus, his story is not over.
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不過,好彩屈里弗斯嘅故事未完
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This is Colonel Picquart.
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呢個係皮卡爾上校
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He's another high-ranking officer in the French Army,
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佢係另外一個法軍高官
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and like most people, he assumed Dreyfus was guilty.
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同其他人一樣,佢都覺得屈里弗斯有罪
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Also like most people in the army, he was at least casually anti-Semitic.
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又同其他人咁,佢都有少少反猶太
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But at a certain point, Picquart began to suspect:
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不過,過咗一段時間,皮卡爾開始懷疑
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"What if we're all wrong about Dreyfus?"
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「我哋係唔係冤枉咗屈里弗斯?」
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What happened was, he had discovered evidence
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之後,佢發現
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that the spying for Germany had continued,
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屈里弗斯坐緊監時
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even after Dreyfus was in prison.
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都繼續有人為德國通風報信
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And he had also discovered that another officer in the army
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佢仲發現軍隊入面
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had handwriting that perfectly matched the memo,
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有人嘅字跡同果張紙仔上嘅一模一樣
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much closer than Dreyfus's handwriting.
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而且比起屈里弗斯嘅字跡更加似
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So he brought these discoveries to his superiors,
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於是,佢向上級匯報佢嘅發現
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but to his dismay, they either didn't care
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不過令佢失望嘅係,佢哋一係就唔上心
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or came up with elaborate rationalizations to explain his findings,
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一係就兜個大圈,合理化啲新發現
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like, "Well, all you've really shown, Picquart, is that there's another spy
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譬如「皮卡爾,你只不過 發現咗另一個間諜
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who learned how to mimic Dreyfus's handwriting,
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模仿咗屈里弗斯嘅字跡。
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and he picked up the torch of spying after Dreyfus left.
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喺屈里弗斯坐監之後接手間諜工作。
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But Dreyfus is still guilty."
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不過屈里弗斯都係有罪嘅。」
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Eventually, Picquart managed to get Dreyfus exonerated.
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最尾,皮卡爾成功幫屈里弗斯洗脫罪名
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But it took him 10 years,
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但係就用咗整整十年
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and for part of that time, he himself was in prison
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期間佢自己都因為
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for the crime of disloyalty to the army.
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對軍隊不忠坐咗陣監
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A lot of people feel like Picquart can't really be the hero of this story
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好多人覺得皮卡爾唔係成件事嘅英雄
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because he was an anti-Semite and that's bad, which I agree with.
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因為佢都歧視猶太人,我同意呢點
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But personally, for me, the fact that Picquart was anti-Semitic
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不過,對我黎講,正因為皮卡爾反猶太
07:53
actually makes his actions more admirable,
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佢嘅舉動更加令人佩服
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because he had the same prejudices, the same reasons to be biased
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因為佢都同其他軍官有一樣嘅偏見
有同樣嘅原因可能作出唔公正嘅判斷
07:59
as his fellow officers,
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08:01
but his motivation to find the truth and uphold it trumped all of that.
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但佢尋找、堅持真相嘅動力將功補過
08:07
So to me,
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對於我嚟講
08:08
Picquart is a poster child for what I call "scout mindset."
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皮卡爾係「偵察思維」嘅典範
08:12
It's the drive not to make one idea win or another lose,
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冇支持或反對任何觀點
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but just to see what's really there
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而係純粹發現事實所在
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as honestly and accurately as you can,
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盡量真實準確嘅事實
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even if it's not pretty or convenient or pleasant.
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即使啲事實唔光彩、唔方便人 唔討人歡喜
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This mindset is what I'm personally passionate about.
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呢個就係我熱愛嘅思維
08:28
And I've spent the last few years examining and trying to figure out
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過去幾年,我試圖探索同發現
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what causes scout mindset.
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「偵察思維」係點樣形成嘅
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Why are some people, sometimes at least,
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點解有啲人,有啲時候
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able to cut through their own prejudices and biases and motivations
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能夠摒棄自己嘅偏見、主觀同埋動機
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and just try to see the facts and the evidence
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嘗試用最客觀嘅眼光
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as objectively as they can?
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去睇清事實同證據
08:47
And the answer is emotional.
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答案就係情感上
08:51
So, just as soldier mindset is rooted in emotions
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就好似士兵思維係出於
08:54
like defensiveness or tribalism,
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譬如防禦或者親疏有別嘅情感
08:58
scout mindset is, too.
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偵察思維都係
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It's just rooted in different emotions.
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不過係出於唔同嘅情感
09:02
For example, scouts are curious.
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譬如,偵察者有好奇心
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They're more likely to say they feel pleasure
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佢哋學到新嘢時
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when they learn new information
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或者解開難題時
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or an itch to solve a puzzle.
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就會好開心
09:13
They're more likely to feel intrigued when they encounter something
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如果佢哋發現有嘢 違背咗佢哋嘅假設
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that contradicts their expectations.
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就會覺得好奇
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Scouts also have different values.
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偵察者都有唔同嘅價值觀
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They're more likely to say they think it's virtuous
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佢哋覺得驗證自己嘅觀念
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to test your own beliefs,
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係一種美德
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and they're less likely to say that someone who changes his mind
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而唔會覺得
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seems weak.
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改變諗法係一種軟弱嘅行為
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And above all, scouts are grounded,
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最後,偵察者係腳踏實地嘅
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which means their self-worth as a person
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佢哋作為人嘅自尊唔係取決於
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isn't tied to how right or wrong they are about any particular topic.
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佢哋對於特定議題嘅諗法係對定錯
09:42
So they can believe that capital punishment works.
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佢哋可能覺得死刑係有用嘅
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If studies come out showing that it doesn't, they can say,
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但如果有研究話死刑係冇用嘅
09:48
"Huh. Looks like I might be wrong. Doesn't mean I'm bad or stupid."
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佢哋會諗「係,我諗錯咗, 但都唔代表我差勁或者蠢」
09:53
This cluster of traits is what researchers have found --
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研究員發現呢啲性格特點
09:58
and I've also found anecdotally --
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——而我都係啲故事中發現
預示咗人嘅判斷能力高低
10:00
predicts good judgment.
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10:02
And the key takeaway I want to leave you with about those traits
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我最想比你知道嘅就係
10:05
is that they're primarily not about how smart you are
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係呢啲性格特點同你醒唔醒無關
10:09
or about how much you know.
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同你識幾多嘢都無關
10:11
In fact, they don't correlate very much with IQ at all.
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其實同智商都冇咩數據上嘅關係
10:14
They're about how you feel.
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主要都係同情感有關
10:16
There's a quote that I keep coming back to, by Saint-Exupéry.
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我成日引用聖埃克絮佩里
10:20
He's the author of "The Little Prince."
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——即係《小王子》嘅作者所講
10:22
He said, "If you want to build a ship,
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「如果你想造船,
10:26
don't drum up your men to collect wood and give orders
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唔好叫人地收集木頭、發號施令、
10:30
and distribute the work.
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分配工作,
10:32
Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea."
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而係要教識佢哋嚮往 無邊無際嘅大海。」
10:38
In other words, I claim,
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換句話講
10:40
if we really want to improve our judgment as individuals
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如果我哋真係想改善判斷能力
10:44
and as societies,
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不論係作為係個人或者社會
10:45
what we need most is not more instruction in logic
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我哋最需要嘅唔係更多嘅邏輯構建
10:49
or rhetoric or probability or economics,
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比喻、機會率又或經濟學
10:52
even though those things are quite valuable.
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儘管呢啲嘢都好有價值
10:54
But what we most need to use those principles well
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不過要好好利用呢個理論
我哋最需要嘅係偵查思維
10:58
is scout mindset.
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10:59
We need to change the way we feel.
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我哋需要改變自己嘅感觀
11:01
We need to learn how to feel proud instead of ashamed
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我哋需要學習 喺發現自己諗錯嘢時
11:05
when we notice we might have been wrong about something.
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覺得自豪而唔係羞恥
11:08
We need to learn how to feel intrigued instead of defensive
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需要學習如何喺發現一啲 同我哋觀念牴觸嘅資訊時
11:11
when we encounter some information that contradicts our beliefs.
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覺得好奇而唔係戒備
11:16
So the question I want to leave you with is:
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所以,我想問你哋嘅問題係
11:19
What do you most yearn for?
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你最想要嘅係咩?
11:22
Do you yearn to defend your own beliefs?
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你想防禦自己嘅觀念?
11:26
Or do you yearn to see the world as clearly as you possibly can?
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定係想盡可能睇到真實嘅世界?
11:30
Thank you.
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多謝各位
11:31
(Applause)
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