Tracy Chevalier: Finding the story inside the painting

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Translator: Thu-Huong Ha Reviewer: Youna Jung
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翻译人员: Karen SONG 校对人员: Yuguo Zhang
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I'm going to tell you about an affliction I suffer from.
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我即将会给你讲述一个我曾受很大的折磨
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And I have a funny feeling that quite a few of you
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然后我有点感觉到你们有些人
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suffer from it as well.
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也受到过这个折磨
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When I'm walking around an art gallery,
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当我在一个艺术博物馆里走来走去
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rooms and rooms full of paintings,
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一间间的屋子里全是画
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after about 15 or 20 minutes,
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过了15到20分钟后
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I realize I'm not thinking about the paintings.
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我意识到我想的不是这些画
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I'm not connecting to them.
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我跟它们没有联系
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Instead, I'm thinking about that cup of coffee
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我满脑子想的都是要来一杯咖啡
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I desperately need to wake me up.
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让自己好好清醒清醒
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I'm suffering from gallery fatigue.
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我正在受到博物馆审美疲劳的折磨
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How many of you out there suffer from --
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有多少人曾有过同样的经历?
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yes. Ha ha, ha ha!
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哈哈,果然是有
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Now, sometimes you might last longer
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有时候你坚持的时间也许长过20分钟
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than 20 minutes, or even shorter,
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有时候不足20分钟
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but I think we all suffer from it. And do you have
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不过我认为我们都受过这样的折磨
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the accompanying guilt?
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那你们有没有伴随着一种罪恶感?
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For me, I look at the paintings on the wall
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对于我来说,看着墙上的那些画
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and I think, somebody has decided to put them there,
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然后我就想到有人决定把它们放在这里
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thinks they're good enough to be on that wall,
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认为他们在墙上摆着足够好
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but I don't always see it.
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但我不总这样想
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In fact, most of the time I don't see it.
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实际上,大多数情况我都不这么想
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And I leave feeling actually unhappy.
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然后呢我离开的时候心情还不好
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I feel guilty and unhappy with myself,
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我对我自己感觉到一种罪恶感以及不愉快
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rather than thinking there's something wrong with the painting,
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而不是感觉到是墙上那些画有问题
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I think there's something wrong with me.
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我会认为是我有问题
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And that's not a good experience, to leave a gallery like that.
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当然对于离开一个展览馆来说,那种感觉一点儿都不好玩
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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The thing is, I think we should give ourselves a break.
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事实上,我认为我们应该给我们自己一个暂停
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If you think about going into a restaurant,
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如果你想要去一家餐馆
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when you look at the menu, are you expected to order
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当你看菜单的时候,你期待着把菜单上
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every single thing on the menu?
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所有东西都点了吗?
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No! You select.
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不!你选.
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If you go into a department store to buy a shirt,
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如果你去一个大商场去买件衬衫,
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are you going to try on every single shirt
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你会把所有衬衫都试一遍然后
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and want every single shirt?
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都买下来么?
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Of course not, you can be selective. It's expected.
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当然不会,你可以进行选择.这都是预先想好的
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How come, then, it's not so expected
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那为什么当去展览馆的时候,进行选择
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to be selective when we go to an art gallery?
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又不是被所期待的呢?
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Why are we supposed to have a connection with every single painting?
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为什么我们非得跟每幅画都有个联系?
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Well I'm trying to take a different approach.
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我在试图走另一条路
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And there's two things I do:
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因此我做了以下两件事:
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When I go into a gallery, first of all, I go quite fast,
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当我走进一个展览馆的时候,首先我很快地走一遍
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and I look at everything, and I pinpoint the ones
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我每个都看,然后我把那些能让我慢下来的
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that make me slow down for some reason or other.
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画都记下来
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I don't even know why they make me slow down, but something
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我不知道为啥它们让我慢了下来,不过
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pulls me like a magnet
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有些东西就跟磁铁一样吸住了我
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and then I ignore all the others, and I just go to that painting.
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然后我把其他的全部忽略,直接去看那幅画
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So it's the first thing I do is, I do my own curation.
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因此我做的第一件事是自己筛选
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I choose a painting. It might just be one painting in 50.
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我先选一副画.有可能是50选一
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And then the second thing I do is I stand in front of that painting,
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然后第二件事就是站在那副画的面前
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and I tell myself a story about it.
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我给我自己讲个关于那画的故事
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Why a story? Well, I think that we are wired,
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为什么呢?嗯..因为我们是连接的
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our DNA tells us to tell stories.
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我们的DNA让我们去讲故事
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We tell stories all the time about everything,
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我们时时刻刻都在讲各种各样的故事
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and I think we do it because the world is kind of a crazy, chaotic place,
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因为这个世界其实挺疯狂,挺混乱的
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and sometimes stories, we're trying to make sense of the world a little bit,
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有时候我们可以通过故事来更进一步了解世界
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trying to bring some order to it.
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并且带来一些秩序
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Why not apply that to our looking at paintings?
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那为什么我们不也在画上用呢?
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So I now have this sort of restaurant menu
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现在我手里有个餐馆的菜单似的东西
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visiting of art galleries.
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是参观艺术展览馆得来的
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There are three paintings I'm going to show you now
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我现在准备给你看三幅作品
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that are paintings that made me stop in my tracks
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这些是令我放慢脚步的画
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and want to tell stories about them.
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并且想给我讲一个故事
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The first one needs little introduction --
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第一个需要我介绍一下--
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"Girl with a Pearl Earring" by Johannes Vermeer,
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"戴珍珠耳环的女孩"由Johannes Vermeer创作
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17th-century Dutch painter.
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17世纪的荷兰画家
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This is the most glorious painting.
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这是我见过最繁华的绘画作品
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I first saw it when I was 19,
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我19岁的时候第一次看到它
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and I immediately went out and got a poster of it,
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然后我立刻去了海报店买了一张
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and in fact I still have that poster. 30 years later it's hanging in my house.
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实际上现在我还有那个海报呢,30年后还在我家挂着
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It's accompanied me everywhere I've gone,
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我每次去哪它都伴随着我
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I never tire of looking at her.
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我看她从未感到无聊
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What made me stop in my tracks about her to begin with
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之所以它令我放慢脚步
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was just the gorgeous colors he uses
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是因为这些美丽的颜色
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and the light falling on her face.
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以及在她脸上的坠下的光芒
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But I think what's kept me still coming back
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不过我认为令我不断回来欣赏的原因
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year after year is another thing, and that is
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是另外一个东西,那就是
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the look on her face, the conflicted look on her face.
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她脸上矛盾,纠结的表情
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I can't tell if she's happy or sad,
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我看不出来她高兴还是伤心
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and I change my mind all the time.
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而且我时时刻刻在改变主意
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So that keeps me coming back.
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因此它持续吸引我注意力
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One day, 16 years after I had this poster on my wall,
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一天,在我在墙上挂的这幅海报16年后,
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I lay in bed and looked at her,
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我躺在床上看着她
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and I suddenly thought, I wonder what
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然后我突然想到,我想知道
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the painter did to her to make her look like that.
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画家是怎样把她画成这样的
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And it was the first time I'd ever thought that
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那是我第一次想到这一点
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the expression on her face is actually reflecting
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她脸上的表情实际上反映出她对
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how she feels about him.
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画家本人的看法
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Always before I'd thought of it as a portrait of a girl.
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在我之前总认为这只不过是对一个女孩的画像,
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Now I began to think of it as a portrait of a relationship.
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现在我觉得是对于一段感情的描绘
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And I thought, well, what is that relationship?
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然后我就想到,嗯...那是什么感情呢?
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So I went to find out. I did some research and discovered,
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因此我做了些研究,然后发现
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we have no idea who she is.
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我不知道她是谁
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In fact, we don't know who any of the models
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实际上,我们不知道任何出现在Vermeer
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in any of Vermeer's paintings are,
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画中的人是谁
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and we know very little about Vermeer himself.
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而且我们对于Vermeer也是知道很少
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Which made me go, "Yippee!"
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这让我也是很兴奋!
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I can do whatever I want, I can come up with whatever story I want to.
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我可以想干啥干啥.我可以随便想一个故事
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So here's how I came up with the story.
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现在我告诉你我怎么想的故事
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First of all, I thought,
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首先,我想到,
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I've got to get her into the house.
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我得把她带到房间来,
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How does Vermeer know her?
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Vermeer怎么知道她的
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Well, there've been suggestions that
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有记录表明
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she is his 12-year-old daughter.
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她是他的12岁的女儿
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The daughter at the time was 12 when he painted the painting.
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在那副画里,他女儿当时就是12岁
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And I thought, no, it's a very intimate look,
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我又想到,不,这个表情很亲近,
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but it's not a look a daughter gives her father.
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但是不是一个女儿给爸爸的表情
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For one thing, in Dutch painting of the time,
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对于当时的荷兰绘画来说,
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if a woman's mouth was open, it was indicating sexual availability.
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如果一个女的嘴巴是张开的,就表明她是性开放的
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It would have been inappropriate for Vermeer
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对于Vermeer来说是不会把他女儿
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to paint his daughter like that.
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画成那样的
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So it's not his daughter, but it's somebody
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因此呢这不是他女儿,但是是一个跟
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close to him, physically close to him.
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他很靠近的人
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Well, who else would be in the house?
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那么,还有谁在他的家呢?
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A servant, a lovely servant.
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一个管家,很漂亮的管家
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So, she's in the house.
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她在房间里
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How do we get her into the studio?
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那我们怎么把她弄到工作室里呢?
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We don't know very much about Vermeer,
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我们对于Vermeer不是很了解
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but the little bits that we do know, one thing we know
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不过对于他起码我们知道他与一个
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is that he married a Catholic woman, they lived with her mother
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天主教的女人结婚了,他们与她母亲同住
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in a house where he had his own room
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在他自己有一个房间的房子里--
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where he -- his studio. He also had 11 children.
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他的工作室.他还有11个小孩,
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It would have been a chaotic, noisy household.
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家里按说应该非常吵闹和乱
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And if you've seen Vermeer's paintings before,
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不过你如果之前看过Vermeer画的画,
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you know that they're incredibly calm and quiet.
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你知道他画的画都特别的镇静和安静
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How does a painter paint such calm, quiet paintings with 11 kids around?
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一个画家是怎样在11孩子身边画出这样安静的作品呢?
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Well, he compartmentalizes his life.
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他把自己的生活隔离了起来
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He gets to his studio, and he says, "Nobody comes in here.
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每回他进工作室的时候,他会说:"没人能进这里."
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Not the wife, not the kids. Okay, the maid can come in and clean."
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妻子不行,孩子不行.好吧,管家可以进去进行打扫
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She's in the studio. He's got her in the studio, they're together.
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这样她就在工作室里面,他们在一起
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And he decides to paint her.
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于是他决定给她画副画
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He has her wear very plain clothes.
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他让她穿上很朴素的衣服
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Now, all of the women, or most of the women in Vermeer's other paintings
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在Vermeer的画里,大多数女人
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wore velvet, silk, fur, very sumptuous materials.
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都穿天鹅绒,丝质品,毛制品,非常奢侈的衣服
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This is very plain; the only thing that isn't plain
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但这却很朴素,唯一一个不朴素的
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is her pearl earring.
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是她的珍珠耳环
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Now, if she's a servant, there is no way she could afford
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如果她是个管家的话,显然她不可能买得起
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a pair of pearl earrings.
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这样的耳环
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So those are not her pearl earrings. Whose are they?
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因此这些耳环不是她的,那是谁的呢?
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We happen to know, there's a list of Catharina, the wife's clothes.
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不过我们得知他妻子Catharina的衣服
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Amongst them a yellow coat with white fur,
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其中有一件是带着白色毛的黄色大衣
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a yellow and black bodice,
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一件黄色加黑色的紧身上衣
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and you see these clothes on lots of other paintings,
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你可以在其他很多作品中见到
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different women in the paintings, Vermeer's paintings.
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在Vermeer的作品中见到
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So clearly, her clothes were lent to various different women.
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因此很明显,她妻子的衣服曾借给过很多人
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It's not such a leap of faith to take
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说那对耳环其实是他妻子的
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that that pearl earring actually belongs to his wife.
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其实也并不夸张
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So we've got all the elements for our story.
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因此呢我们把故事中所有元素都找到了
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She's in the studio with him for a long time.
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她在工作室里与他呆了很长时间
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These paintings took a long time to make.
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这些画用了很长时间
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They would have spent the time alone, all that time.
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他们单独在一起呆了很长时间
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She's wearing his wife's pearl earring.
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她在戴着他妻子的耳环,
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She's gorgeous. She obviously loves him. She's conflicted.
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她长得漂亮极了.她很爱他.但是她又很矛盾
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And does the wife know? Maybe not.
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那他妻子知道么?估计不知道.
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And if she doesn't, well --
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如果她不知道的话,那么呢....
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that's the story.
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好吧,故事完了.
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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The next painting I'm going to talk about
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下一个我要讲的画叫做
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is called "Boy Building a House of Cards" by Chardin.
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"建造卡片房子的男孩"由Chaedin创作
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He's an 18th-century French painter best known for his still lifes,
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他是个以他的静止生命绘画所著名的18世纪法国画家
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but he did occasionally paint people.
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不过他偶尔也画画人
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And in fact, he painted four versions of this painting,
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实际上,他画过这幅画的四个版本
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different boys building houses of cards, all concentrated.
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不同的造卡片房子的男孩,都是聚集在一起的
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I like this version the best, because some of the boys
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我最喜欢的是这个版本,因为这里面有些男孩年轻点,
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are older and some are younger, and to me, this one,
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有些年长点,而且对我来说
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like Goldilocks's porridge, is just right.
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这幅就像是Goldilock的粥,感觉太对了
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He's not quite a child, and he's not quite a man.
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他不是完全一个小孩,也不是完全一个男人
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He's absolutely balanced between innocence and experience,
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他完全介于天真的成熟之间
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and that made me stop in my tracks in front of this painting.
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这就是为什么这幅画令我放慢了脚步
08:34
And I looked at his face. It's like a Vermeer painting a bit.
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我看着他的脸.有点像是Vermmer画的
08:38
The light comes in from the left, his face is bathed
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光从左边进来,他的脸
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in this glowing light. It's right in the center of the painting,
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被光芒笼罩着.就在画面的正中央
08:42
and you look at it, and I found that when I was looking at it,
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如果你看看的话,当我看的时候
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I was standing there going,
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我就站在那说话:"
08:47
"Look at me. Please look at me."
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看着我.快看着我."
08:50
And he didn't look at me. He was still looking at his cards,
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不过他还是看着他的卡片
08:52
and that's one of the seductive elements of this painting is,
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这是他的画诱惑人的一个地方
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he's so focused on what he's doing that he doesn't look at us.
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他在专注于自己正在干的事情以至于他不关注别人
09:00
And that is, to me, the sign of a masterpiece,
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对我来说,那就是一副杰作的标志
09:04
of a painting when there's a lack of resolution.
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一个缺少决心的画
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He's never going to look at me.
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他永远不会看着我
09:09
So I was thinking of a story where,
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因此我在想一个故事
09:11
if I'm in this position, who could be there looking at him?
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如果我在那个位置的时候,谁又会看着我呢?
09:14
Not the painter, I don't want to think about the painter.
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不会是画家,我不想去想那个画家
09:16
I'm thinking of an older version of himself.
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我在想一个更老一点的他自己
09:19
He's a man, a servant, an older servant looking at this younger servant,
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他是个男人,一个管家,一个年长的管家看着这个年轻的管家
09:25
saying, "Look at me. I want to warn you about
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说到:"看着我.我想要告诫你
09:27
what you're about to go through. Please look at me."
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你将会遇到什么.请看着我."
09:30
And he never does.
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不过他从来不看
09:31
And that lack of resolution, the lack of resolution in "Girl with a Pearl Earring" --
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就是那种决心的缺少,在"戴着珍珠耳环的女孩"中
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we don't know if she's happy or sad.
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我们不知道她到底是高兴还不伤心
09:37
I've written an entire novel about her,
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我写过整个一本关于她的小说,
09:39
and I still don't know if she's happy or sad.
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但是我还是不知道她到底是高兴还是难过
09:41
Again and again, back to the painting,
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一次又一次,我回到那幅画
09:43
looking for the answer, looking for the story to fill in that gap.
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想找到一个答案,找到一个能给出答案的故事
09:47
And we may make a story, and it satisfies us momentarily,
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而我们可以编一个故事,它可以使我们暂时性的满足
09:51
but not really, and we come back again and again.
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不过不是完全的,然后我们再次回来
09:57
The last painting I'm going to talk about
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最后一个我要讲述的画呢
09:59
is called "Anonymous" by anonymous. (Laughter)
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叫做"匿名",是由匿名画的.(笑声)
10:04
This is a Tudor portrait bought by the National Portrait Gallery.
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这是一个对都铎的描绘,是由国家素肖像览馆购买的
10:07
They thought it was a man named Sir Thomas Overbury,
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他们认为这是个叫Thomas Overbury的男人
10:10
and then they discovered that it wasn't him,
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不过在他们发现不是他后,
10:12
and they have no idea who it is.
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他们就不知道是谁了
10:14
Now, in the National Portrait Gallery,
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在国家肖像展览馆中,
10:16
if you don't know the biography of the painting,
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如果你不知道作品的来龙去脉
10:18
it's kind of useless to you.
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那就没什么用了
10:19
They can't hang it on the wall, because they don't know who he is.
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他们没法把这幅作品挂出来,因为他们不知道他是谁
10:22
So unfortunately, this orphan spends most of his time in storage,
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因此很可惜,这个孤儿在库房度过了大多数的时间
10:27
along with quite a number of other orphans,
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同时跟其他的一堆孤儿一起度过的
10:29
some of them some beautiful paintings.
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有一些是很美丽的绘画
10:31
This painting made me stop in my tracks for three reasons:
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有三个原因这幅画让我停了下来
10:36
One is the disconnection between his mouth
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一个是他的带着笑容的嘴巴与留恋的眼睛
10:39
that's smiling and his eyes that are wistful.
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之间的分离
10:42
He's not happy, and why isn't he happy?
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他不是很高兴,不过为什么呢?
10:45
The second thing that really attracted me
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第二个吸引我的是
10:49
were his bright red cheeks.
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他亮红的脸蛋
10:50
He is blushing. He's blushing for his portrait being made!
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他脸都红了,因为别人在给他画肖像
10:54
This must be a guy who blushes all the time.
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肯定是一个脸很容易红的家伙
10:57
What is he thinking about that's making him blush?
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那他在想什么以至于他的脸红了呢?
10:59
The third thing that made me stop in my tracks
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第三件事就是
11:03
is his absolutely gorgeous doublet.
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他非常漂亮的紧身上衣
11:06
Silk, gray, those beautiful buttons.
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丝质,灰色,带着美丽的扣子
11:09
And you know what it makes me think of,
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它令我想到
11:11
is it's sort of snug and puffy; it's like a duvet spread over a bed.
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这件衣服很温暖很舒服,就跟在床上的一床羽绒被一样
11:16
I kept thinking of beds and red cheeks,
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我不断想着床和他们的红脸蛋
11:18
and of course I kept thinking of sex when I looked at him,
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当然我看他的时候,我一直在想着性爱,
11:21
and I thought, is that what he's thinking about?
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然后我就想,他是不是就在想性爱呢?
11:24
And I thought, if I'm going to make a story,
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我又想到,如果我要编一个故事,
11:26
what's the last thing I'm going to put in there?
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我最不想编的是什么?
11:28
Well, what would a Tudor gentleman be preoccupied with?
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一个都铎的绅士应该全神贯注与谁呢?
11:32
And I thought, well, Henry VIII, okay.
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嗯..应该是亨利八世,好吧.
11:34
He'd be preoccupied with his inheritance, with his heir.
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他应该对他的家产和遗产很着迷
11:38
Who is going to inherit his name and his fortune?
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谁会继承他的名字的财富呢?
11:41
You put all those together, and you've got your story
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你把这些都加进去,你就有你的故事了
11:45
to fill in that gap that makes you keep coming back.
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这样你就填满了漏洞,使得你不断回来
11:49
Now, here's the story.
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这就是我的故事
11:53
It's short.
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非常短
11:56
"Rosy"
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"玫瑰红"
11:59
I am still wearing the white brocade doublet Caroline gave me.
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我还是穿着Caroline给我的白色棉缎的紧身上衣
12:03
It has a plain high collar, detachable sleeves
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它有个高的领子,可以卸掉的袖子
12:07
and intricate buttons of twisted silk thread,
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以及用卷在一起复杂丝线做成的扣子
12:11
set close together so that the fit is snug.
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这些都在一起因此衣服穿起来很舒服
12:14
The doublet makes me think of a coverlet on the vast bed.
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紧身上衣使我想起了在一张大床上的床单
12:17
Perhaps that was the intention.
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也许这是我的初衷
12:21
I first wore it at an elaborate dinner her parents held in our honor.
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我在她家长举行的一次晚宴上第一次穿这件衣服,
12:26
I knew even before I stood up to speak
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在我站起来说话之前我就
12:28
that my cheeks were inflamed.
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知道我的脸蛋发烫
12:30
I have always flushed easily, from physical exertion,
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我从来都是很容易就脸红了,体育锻炼,
12:34
from wine, from high emotion.
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红酒,以及强的情感
12:36
As a boy, I was teased by my sisters and by schoolboys,
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当我是个小孩的时候,我被我的姐姐们和在学校的男孩们嘲笑
12:41
but not by George.
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不过George从未嘲笑我
12:43
Only George could call me Rosy.
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只有George把我叫做玫瑰红
12:46
I would not allow anyone else.
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我只允许他一个人这么叫
12:48
He managed to make the word tender.
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他想要让这个世界更加温暖
12:53
When I made the announcement, George did not
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当我在发表演讲时,George
12:55
turn rosy, but went pale as my doublet.
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没有变玫瑰红,但却变得跟我紧身上衣一样白
12:58
He should not have been surprised.
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他不应该变得这么惊讶
13:00
It has been a common assumption
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应该很容易就推测出来
13:02
that I would one day marry his cousin.
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有一天我要区他的表妹
13:06
But it is difficult to hear the words aloud.
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不过实际听到这一刻却很难
13:08
I know, I could barely utter them.
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我几乎说不出来了
13:12
Afterwards, I found George on the terrace overlooking the kitchen garden.
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在那之后,我看到George在阳台上鸟瞰厨房的花园
13:16
Despite drinking steadily all afternoon, he was still pale.
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尽管他整个下午都在思考,但他的脸还是白的
13:21
We stood together and watched the maids cut lettuces.
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我们站在一起,注视着管家把生菜切掉
13:26
"What do you think of my doublet?" I asked.
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"你觉得我的紧身上衣怎么样?"我问到
13:28
He glanced at me. "That collar looks to be strangling you."
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他扫了我一眼."领子看起来要把你勒死."
13:33
"We will still see each other," I insisted.
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"我们还会见面的."我坚定地说到
13:35
"We can still hunt and play cards and attend court.
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"我们还是可以去打猎,去玩牌,还有出席在法院.
13:39
Nothing need change."
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没有任何事会改变."
13:40
George did not speak.
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George没说话
13:44
"I am 23 years old. It is time for me to marry
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"我都23岁了.也该是结婚和找继承人
13:47
and produce an heir. It is expected of me."
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的时候了.对我来说这都是理所当然的."
13:52
George drained another glass of claret and turned to me.
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George喝干了另一杯葡萄酒然后转了过来
13:55
"Congratulations on your upcoming nuptials, James.
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"我对你的婚姻表示祝贺,James.
13:59
I'm sure you'll be content together."
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我相信你们在一起一定很幸福."
14:04
He never used my nickname again.
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至此之后,他再也没有用过我的昵称了.
14:07
Thank you.
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谢谢
14:09
(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
14:13
Thank you.
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谢谢
14:14
(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
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