Ian Ritchie: The day I turned down Tim Berners-Lee

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Prevodilac: Mile Živković Lektor: Anja Saric
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Well we all know the World Wide Web
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Svi znamo da je internet
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has absolutely transformed publishing, broadcasting,
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apsolutno promenio izdavaštvo, emitovanje materijala,
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commerce and social connectivity,
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trgovinu i društvenu umreženost,
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but where did it all come from?
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ali odakle je sve to došlo?
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And I'll quote three people:
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Citiraću trojicu ljudi:
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Vannevar Bush, Doug Engelbart and Tim Berners-Lee.
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Vanevara Buša, Daga Englbarta i Tima Berners-Lija.
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So let's just run through these guys.
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Hajde sada, na brzinu, da upoznamo ove ljude.
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This is Vannevar Bush.
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Ovo je Vanevar Buš.
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Vannevar Bush was the U.S. government's chief scientific adviser during the war.
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On je bio glavni naučni savetnik za vladu SAD tokom rata.
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And in 1945,
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A 1945. godine,
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he published an article in a magazine called Atlantic Monthly.
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objavio je članak u časopisu Atlantic Monthly.
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And the article was called "As We May Think."
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Članak se zvao "Kao što bismo mi mislili."
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And what Vannevar Bush was saying
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Ono što je Vanevar Buš tvrdio
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was the way we use information is broken.
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je da je način na koji mi koristimo informacije loš.
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We don't work in terms of libraries
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Ne sortiramo informacije poput biblioteka,
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and catalog systems and so forth.
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kataloga i sličnih sistema.
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The brain works by association.
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Mozak radi pomoću asocijacija.
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With one item in its thought, it snaps instantly to the next item.
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Dok nam je jedna stvar na umu, mozak odmah skače na sledeću.
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And the way information is structured
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I način na koji su informacije strukturirane
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is totally incapable of keeping up with this process.
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ne može da ide u korak sa ovim procesom.
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And so he suggested a machine,
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Buš je onda predložio jednu mašinu,
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and he called it the memex.
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i nazvao ju je memeks.
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And the memex would link information,
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Memeks bi povezivao informacije,
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one piece of information to a related piece of information and so forth.
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jednu informaciju sa drugom srodnom i tako dalje.
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Now this was in 1945.
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Ovo je bilo 1945.
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A computer in those days
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U to vreme kompjuter je bio nešto
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was something the secret services used to use for code breaking.
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što su koristile tajne službe kako bi razbile šifre.
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And nobody knew anything about it.
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I niko nije znao ništa o njemu.
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So this was before the computer was invented.
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Dakle ovo je bilo pre nastanka kompjutera.
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And he proposed this machine called the memex.
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I on je predložio da se ova mašina zove memeks.
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And he had a platform where you linked information to other information,
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Imao je platformu gde su se informacije povezivale jedna sa drugom,
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and then you could call it up at will.
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i onda ste mogli da ih povratite kada vam trebaju.
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So spinning forward,
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Kada premotamo film unapred,
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one of the guys who read this article was a guy called Doug Engelbart,
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jedan od ljudi koji su pročitali članak zvao se Dag Englbart
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and he was a U.S. Air Force officer.
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i bio je oficir američkog vazduhoplovstva.
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And he was reading it in their library in the Far East.
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Čitao je članak u biblioteci na Dalekom istoku,
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And he was so inspired by this article,
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i toliko ga je toliko inspirisao
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it kind of directed the rest of his life.
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da je izmenio ostatak njegovog života.
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And by the mid-60s, he was able to put this into action
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I do sredine '60-tih, mogao je da realizuje sve ovo
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when he worked at the Stanford Research Lab in California.
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jer je radio u Stenfordskoj laboratoriji za istraživanje u Kaliforniji.
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He built a system.
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Napravio je sistem.
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The system was designed to augment human intelligence, it was called.
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Sistem je bio osmišljen da poveća čovekovu inteligenciju.
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And in a premonition of today's world
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I u predosećanju današnjeg sveta računarstva
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of cloud computing and softwares of service,
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i uslužnih softvera,
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his system was called NLS
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Englbart je sistem nazvao NLS
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for oN-Line System.
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što je bila skraćenica za oN-Lajn Sistem.
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And this is Doug Engelbart.
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A ovo je Dag Englbart.
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He was giving a presentation at the Fall Joint Computer Conference
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Imao je prezentaciju na Jesenjoj zajedničkoj kompjuterskoj konferenciji
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in 1968.
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1968. godine.
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What he showed --
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Ono što je pokazao je -
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he sat on a stage like this, and he demonstrated this system.
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sedeo je na pozornici poput ove i demonstrirao svoj sistem.
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He had his head mic like I've got.
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Imao je mikrofon na glavi kao i ja.
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And he works this system.
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I radio je na ovom sistemu.
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And you can see, he's working between documents
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I kao što vidite, radi kroz dokumente
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and graphics and so forth.
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i grafičke datoteke i tako dalje.
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And he's driving it all
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I sve to pokreće
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with this platform here,
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ovom platformom ovde,
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with a five-finger keyboard
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sa tastaturom za pet prstiju
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and the world's first computer mouse,
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i prvim kompjuterskim mišem na svetu,
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which he specially designed in order to do this system.
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koji je osmislio posebno za ovaj sistem.
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So this is where the mouse came from as well.
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Tako da je ovde nastao i prvi miš.
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So this is Doug Engelbart.
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Dakle ovo je Dag Englbart.
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The trouble with Doug Engelbart's system
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Problem sa njegovim sistemom bio je taj
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was that the computers in those days cost several million pounds.
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da su u to vreme kompjuteri koštali po par miliona funti.
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So for a personal computer,
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Tako da je za lični računar,
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a few million pounds was like having a personal jet plane;
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par miliona funti bilo poput posedovanja ličnog aviona;
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it wasn't really very practical.
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zaista nije bilo veoma praktično.
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But spin on to the 80s
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Ali krenimo do osamdesetih godina
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when personal computers did arrive,
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kada su zaista došli lični računari.
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then there was room for this kind of system on personal computers.
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Onda je bilo prostora za ovakav sistem na njima.
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And my company, OWL
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I moja kompanija OWL
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built a system called Guide for the Apple Macintosh.
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napravila je sistem pod imenom Vodič za Apple Mackintosh.
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And we delivered the world's first hypertext system.
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Proizveli smo prvi hipertekst sistem na svetu.
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And this began to get a head of steam.
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I onda su stvari počele da se zahuktavaju.
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Apple introduced a thing called HyperCard,
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Apple je predstavio stvarčicu zvanu HyperCard,
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and they made a bit of a fuss about it.
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i malo su digli frku oko toga.
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They had a 12-page supplement in the Wall Street Journal the day it launched.
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Imali su prilog od 12 strana u Dnevniku Vol Strita kada je izašao.
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The magazines started to cover it.
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Novine su počele da pišu o tome.
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Byte magazine and Communications at the ACM
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Magazin Byte i ACM komunikacije
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had special issues covering hypertext.
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imali su posebna izdanja za hipertekst.
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We developed a PC version of this product
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Razvili smo verziju proizvoda za računare,
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as well as the Macintosh version.
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kao i verziju za Mackintosh.
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And our PC version became quite mature.
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Verzija za računare se poprilično razvila.
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These are some examples of this system in action in the late 80s.
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Ovo su primerci sistema u radu kasnih osamdeseth.
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You were able to deliver documents, were able to do it over networks.
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Mogli ste da dostavljate dokumente i da radite to preko mreža.
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We developed a system such
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Napravili smo sistem
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that it had a markup language based on html.
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koji je imao jezik za označavanje baziran na HTML-u.
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We called it hml: hypertext markup language.
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Nazvali smo ga HML - hipertekst jezik za označavanje.
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And the system was capable of doing
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I mogao je da obrađuje
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very, very large documentation systems over computer networks.
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velike sisteme dokumentacije preko mreža kompjutera.
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So I took this system to a trade show in Versailles near Paris
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Tako sam poneo ovaj sistem na sajam u Versaju pored Pariza
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in late November 1990.
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u drugoj polovini novembra 1990.
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And I was approached by a nice young man called Tim Berners-Lee
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Tamo mi je prišao fini mladić - Tim Berners-Li
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who said, "Are you Ian Ritchie?" and I said, "Yeah."
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i pitao: "Da li ste vi Ian Riči?" "Da.", odgovorio sam.
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And he said, "I need to talk to you."
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"Moram da razgovaram sa vama.", rekao mi je.
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And he told me about his proposed system called the World Wide Web.
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I pričao mi je o predlogu za sistem pod imenom World Wide Web (Svetska mreža).
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And I thought, well, that's got a pretentious name,
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Pomislio sam da je to prilično pretenciozno ime,
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especially since the whole system ran on his computer in his office.
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naročito zato što je ceo sistem bio na kompjuteru u njegovoj kancelariji.
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But he was completely convinced that his World Wide Web
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Ali Berners-Li je bio skroz uveren da će Svetska mreža
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would take over the world one day.
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osvojiti svet jednoga dana.
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And he tried to persuade me to write the browser for it,
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Pokušao je da me nagovori da napravim pretraživač za tu mrežu,
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because his system didn't have any graphics or fonts or layout or anything;
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jer njegov sistem nije imao grafiku, font, okruženje ili bilo šta;
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it was just plain text.
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sastojao se od jednostavnog teksta.
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I thought, well, you know, interesting,
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Pomislio sam, znaš, zanimljivo je to,
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but a guy from CERN, he's not going to do this.
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ali tip iz CERN-a, neće hteti to da uradi.
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So we didn't do it.
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Tako da nismo to uradili.
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In the next couple of years,
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U sledećih nekoliko godina,
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the hypertext community didn't recognize him either.
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ni hipertekst zajednica nije prepoznala njegov rad.
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In 1992, his paper was rejected for the Hypertext Conference.
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1992. njegov rad je odbijen za Hipertekst konferenciju.
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In 1993,
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1993. na konferenciji u Sijetlu
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there was a table at the conference in Seattle,
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za jednim stolom
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and a guy called Marc Andreessen
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momak zvani Mark Andrisen
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was demonstrating his little browser for the World Wide Web.
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demonstrirao je svoj mali pretraživač za Svetsku mrežu.
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And I saw it, and I thought, yep, that's it.
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Video sam ga i pomislio, da, to je to.
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And the very next year, in 1994, we had the conference here in Edinburgh,
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I već sledeće godine, 1994., imali smo konferenciju ovde u Edinburgu
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and I had no opposition in having Tim Berners-Lee as the keynote speaker.
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i nisam imao ništa protiv da Tim Berners-Li bude glavni govornik.
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So that puts me in pretty illustrious company.
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To me stavlja u društvo slavnih.
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There was a guy called Dick Rowe
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Dik Rou iz izdavačke kuće Decca Records
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who was at Decca Records and turned down The Beatles.
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odbio je Bitlse.
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There was a guy called Gary Kildall
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Geri Kildal
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who went flying his plane
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leteo je svojim avionom
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when IBM came looking for an operating system
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kada su iz IBM-a došli da traže operativni sistem
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for the IBM PC,
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za IBM računar,
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and he wasn't there, so they went back to see Bill Gates.
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a on nije bio tamo, tako da su otišli nazad do Bila Gejtsa.
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And the 12 publishers
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Tu je i 12 izdavača
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who turned down J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter, I guess.
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koji su odbili Dž.K. Rouling i knjige o Hariju Poteru.
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On the other hand, there's Marc Andreessen
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Sa druge strane, tu je Mark Andrisen
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who wrote the world's first browser for the World Wide Web.
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koji ja napravio prvi pretraživač za Svetsku mrežu na svetu.
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And according to Fortune magazine,
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I ako je verovati magazinu Fortune,
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he's worth 700 million dollars.
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on vredi 700 miliona dolara.
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But is he happy?
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Ali da li je srećan?
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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