Ian Ritchie: The day I turned down Tim Berners-Lee

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翻译人员: Fan Xu 校对人员: Felix Chen
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Well we all know the World Wide Web
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我们都知道万维网
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has absolutely transformed publishing, broadcasting,
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已经绝对地改变了出版、广播、
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commerce and social connectivity,
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商业和社交的联通性,
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but where did it all come from?
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但是它是从哪儿来的?
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And I'll quote three people:
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在此我要引用三个人:
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Vannevar Bush, Doug Engelbart and Tim Berners-Lee.
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范尼瓦尔•布什,道格•英格尔巴特和蒂姆•伯纳斯李。
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So let's just run through these guys.
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那么我们一个一个地说说这些人。
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This is Vannevar Bush.
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这是范尼瓦尔•布什,
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Vannevar Bush was the U.S. government's chief scientific adviser during the war.
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范尼瓦尔•布什曾经是美国政府在战争时期的首席科学顾问。
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And in 1945,
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在1945年的时候,
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he published an article in a magazine called Atlantic Monthly.
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他在一本名为”大西洋月刊“的杂志上公开发表了一篇文章。
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And the article was called "As We May Think."
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这个文章就叫做”像你可以想的那样“。
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And what Vannevar Bush was saying
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范尼瓦尔•布什想表达的
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was the way we use information is broken.
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是我们使用信息的方式是破碎的。
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We don't work in terms of libraries
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我们没有根据图书馆
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and catalog systems and so forth.
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和目录系统等等那样做。
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The brain works by association.
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大脑是通过联合协作来工作的。
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With one item in its thought, it snaps instantly to the next item.
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当它在想一个主体的时候,它就立即会去连接下一个主体。
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And the way information is structured
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并且,信息构造的方式
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is totally incapable of keeping up with this process.
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是完全无法把我们限制在这个过程中的。
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And so he suggested a machine,
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所以,他提议了一种机器,
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and he called it the memex.
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他把它叫做麦麦克斯。
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And the memex would link information,
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麦麦克斯可以连接信息,
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one piece of information to a related piece of information and so forth.
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一条信息连到一条与之有关的信息,并以此延续。
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Now this was in 1945.
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现在这是1945年。
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A computer in those days
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一台电脑在那个时候
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was something the secret services used to use for code breaking.
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是机密服务部门用来破解密码的东西。
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And nobody knew anything about it.
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并且没有人知道关于它的任何事。
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So this was before the computer was invented.
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所以这是电脑被发明之前。
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And he proposed this machine called the memex.
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他提议把这个机器命名为麦麦克斯。
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And he had a platform where you linked information to other information,
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并且他有一个可以让你把信息与其他信息连接起来的平台,
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and then you could call it up at will.
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然后你就可以随意调用它。
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So spinning forward,
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所以向前旋转一点,
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one of the guys who read this article was a guy called Doug Engelbart,
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在这些读过这篇文章的人中,有一个人叫道格•英格尔巴特,
01:36
and he was a U.S. Air Force officer.
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他曾是美国空军的军官。
01:38
And he was reading it in their library in the Far East.
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他当时正在他们在远东的图书馆里阅读这篇文章。
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And he was so inspired by this article,
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并且这篇文章曾让他很受鼓舞,
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it kind of directed the rest of his life.
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一定程度上指示了他的余生。
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And by the mid-60s, he was able to put this into action
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在60年代中期的时候,他得以把想法付诸于实践,
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when he worked at the Stanford Research Lab in California.
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当他在加州斯坦福研究实验室工作的时候。
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He built a system.
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他建立了一种系统。
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The system was designed to augment human intelligence, it was called.
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这种系统是设计来增强人类智力的,据说。
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And in a premonition of today's world
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在对今日世界上
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of cloud computing and softwares of service,
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云计算和服务软件的预感里,
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his system was called NLS
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他的系统被称作
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for oN-Line System.
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为oN-Line系统设计的NLS。
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And this is Doug Engelbart.
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这是道格•英格尔巴特。
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He was giving a presentation at the Fall Joint Computer Conference
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他当时正在秋季联合电脑会议上做一个演讲,
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in 1968.
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那是1968年。
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What he showed --
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他展示的是——
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he sat on a stage like this, and he demonstrated this system.
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他坐在一个像这样的舞台上,演示这个系统。
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He had his head mic like I've got.
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他有他的头戴式话筒,就像我得到的这个。
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And he works this system.
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他操作了这个系统。
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And you can see, he's working between documents
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如你所见,他当时正在文件
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and graphics and so forth.
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和图解计算等等之间操作。
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And he's driving it all
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他完全掌控它
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with this platform here,
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用这里的这个平台,
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with a five-finger keyboard
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一个五指的键盘,
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and the world's first computer mouse,
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和这个世界上第一个电脑鼠标,
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which he specially designed in order to do this system.
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这个他特别为了这个系统设计的鼠标。
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So this is where the mouse came from as well.
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所以这也是鼠标的来源。
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So this is Doug Engelbart.
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这是道格•英格尔巴特。
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The trouble with Doug Engelbart's system
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道格•英格尔巴特的系统的问题在于
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was that the computers in those days cost several million pounds.
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那个时代的电脑都有几百万磅重。
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So for a personal computer,
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所以对一个个人电脑来说,
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a few million pounds was like having a personal jet plane;
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几百万磅就像是拥有一架私人飞机;
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it wasn't really very practical.
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它不是非常实际。
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But spin on to the 80s
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但是转到80年代,
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when personal computers did arrive,
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当个人电脑确实到来的时候,
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then there was room for this kind of system on personal computers.
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这种在个人电脑上的系统就有了空间。
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And my company, OWL
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我的公司,OWL
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built a system called Guide for the Apple Macintosh.
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建立了一种名为”苹果麦金塔电脑指南“的系统。
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And we delivered the world's first hypertext system.
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并且我们发表了世界上第一个超文本系统。
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And this began to get a head of steam.
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这个为潮流开了个头。
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Apple introduced a thing called HyperCard,
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苹果介绍了一种叫”超卡“的东西,
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and they made a bit of a fuss about it.
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并且他们对此有点小题大做。
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They had a 12-page supplement in the Wall Street Journal the day it launched.
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在它发布的当天,他们做了12页的华尔街日报增刊。
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The magazines started to cover it.
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杂志们开始涉及它。
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Byte magazine and Communications at the ACM
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字节杂志和在ACM的通讯杂志
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had special issues covering hypertext.
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有涉及超文本的特殊期刊。
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We developed a PC version of this product
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我们开发了这种产品的个人电脑版本
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as well as the Macintosh version.
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和麦金塔版本。
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And our PC version became quite mature.
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并且,我们的个人电脑版本变得十分成熟。
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These are some examples of this system in action in the late 80s.
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80年代后期,有一些这个系统工作的例子。
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You were able to deliver documents, were able to do it over networks.
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你可以传输文件,可以通过网络来做。
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We developed a system such
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我们开发了这样一个系统,
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that it had a markup language based on html.
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它拥有一个基于html的标记语言。
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We called it hml: hypertext markup language.
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我们称之为hml:超文本设置语言。
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And the system was capable of doing
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这个系统能够通过计算机网络,
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very, very large documentation systems over computer networks.
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做非常,非常大的文件系统。
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So I took this system to a trade show in Versailles near Paris
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所以我带着这个系统去了一个在巴黎附近凡尔赛的贸易展览,
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in late November 1990.
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在1990年11月下旬。
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And I was approached by a nice young man called Tim Berners-Lee
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我接触了一位友好的叫蒂姆•伯纳斯李的年轻人,
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who said, "Are you Ian Ritchie?" and I said, "Yeah."
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那个说“你是伊恩•瑞彻吗?“ 的人,我说“是。”
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And he said, "I need to talk to you."
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他说,”我需要和你聊一聊。“
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And he told me about his proposed system called the World Wide Web.
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于是他告诉了我关于他提议的万维网系统。
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And I thought, well, that's got a pretentious name,
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然后我就想,好吧,那是一个自命不凡的名字,
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especially since the whole system ran on his computer in his office.
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特别是整个系统不过只是在他办公室里的电脑上运行。
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But he was completely convinced that his World Wide Web
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但是他完全确信他的万维网
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would take over the world one day.
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总有一天会占领这个世界。
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And he tried to persuade me to write the browser for it,
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并且他试图说服我去为它写一个浏览器,
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because his system didn't have any graphics or fonts or layout or anything;
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因为他的系统没有任何图解或者字体或者布局或者其他事情;
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it was just plain text.
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它只是简单的文本。
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I thought, well, you know, interesting,
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我觉得,好吧,你知道的,挺有趣,
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but a guy from CERN, he's not going to do this.
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但是一个从CERN来的人,他不会做的。
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So we didn't do it.
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所以我们没有做。
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In the next couple of years,
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在之后的几年中,
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the hypertext community didn't recognize him either.
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超文本团体也没有承认他。
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In 1992, his paper was rejected for the Hypertext Conference.
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在1992年,他的论文被”超文本会议“否定了。
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In 1993,
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在1993年,
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there was a table at the conference in Seattle,
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西雅图的会议上有一个展台,
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and a guy called Marc Andreessen
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和一个叫马克•安德森的人
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was demonstrating his little browser for the World Wide Web.
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来展示他那关于万维网的小浏览器。
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And I saw it, and I thought, yep, that's it.
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我看到了,我认为,就这样了。
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And the very next year, in 1994, we had the conference here in Edinburgh,
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就在下一年,1994年,我们在爱丁堡这里开了个会议,
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and I had no opposition in having Tim Berners-Lee as the keynote speaker.
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我对让蒂姆•伯纳斯李做主讲人没有任何意见。
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So that puts me in pretty illustrious company.
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因此我进了非常著名的公司。
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There was a guy called Dick Rowe
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曾经有个人叫迪克•罗,
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who was at Decca Records and turned down The Beatles.
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这个人曾经在迪卡唱片工作并且拒绝了甲壳虫乐队。
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There was a guy called Gary Kildall
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曾经也有个人叫加里•希达尔,
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who went flying his plane
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这个人去驾驶他的飞机,
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when IBM came looking for an operating system
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当IBM为了IBM个人电脑
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for the IBM PC,
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寻找一个操作系统的时候,
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and he wasn't there, so they went back to see Bill Gates.
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他当时不在那里,所以他们回去见了比尔•盖茨。
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And the 12 publishers
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还有12家出版商,
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who turned down J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter, I guess.
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那些拒绝了J.K 罗琳的哈利波特的人,我想。
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On the other hand, there's Marc Andreessen
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从另一方面来说,还有马克•安德森,
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who wrote the world's first browser for the World Wide Web.
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这个写出了世界上第一个万维网浏览器的人。
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And according to Fortune magazine,
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根据财富杂志,
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he's worth 700 million dollars.
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他现在身价7亿美元。
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But is he happy?
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但他快乐吗?
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
05:28
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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