Why Brexit happened -- and what to do next | Alexander Betts

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Prevodilac: Mile Živković Lektor: Milenka Okuka
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I am British.
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Ja sam Britanac.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
00:20
Never before has the phrase "I am British" elicited so much pity.
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Ta rečenica nikada pre nije izazivala toliko sažaljenja.
00:24
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
00:26
I come from an island where many of us like to believe
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Dolazim sa ostrva gde mnogi od nas veruju
00:29
there's been a lot of continuity over the last thousand years.
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da postoji priličan kontinuitet tokom proteklih hiljadu godina.
Istorijski smo uglavnom mi bili ti koji su nametali promene drugima,
00:33
We tend to have historically imposed change on others
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00:36
but done much less of it ourselves.
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ali smo se sami retko menjali.
00:39
So it came as an immense shock to me
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Tako da je za mene bio ogroman šok
00:41
when I woke up on the morning of June 24
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kada sam se probudio jutra 24. juna
00:44
to discover that my country had voted to leave the European Union,
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i otkrio da je moja zemlja izglasala da napusti Evropsku uniju,
00:48
my Prime Minister had resigned,
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da je premijer dao ostavku
00:50
and Scotland was considering a referendum
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i da je Škotska razmatrala referendum
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that could bring to an end the very existence of the United Kingdom.
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koji bi mogao da dovede u pitanje samo postojanje Ujedinjenog Kraljevstva.
00:58
So that was an immense shock for me,
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To je za mene bio ogroman šok,
01:01
and it was an immense shock for many people,
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kao i za mnoge druge ljude,
01:05
but it was also something that, over the following several days,
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ali je i bilo nešto što je tokom nekoliko narednih dana
01:08
created a complete political meltdown
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stvorilo potpuno političko rasulo
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in my country.
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u mojoj zemlji.
01:12
There were calls for a second referendum,
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Tražio se drugi referendum,
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almost as if, following a sports match,
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skoro kao kada bi nakon sportskog meča
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we could ask the opposition for a replay.
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od protivnika tražili revanš.
01:20
Everybody was blaming everybody else.
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Svako je krivio svakog drugog.
01:23
People blamed the Prime Minister
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Ljudi su krivili premijera
01:24
for calling the referendum in the first place.
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što je uopšte raspisao referendum.
01:27
They blamed the leader of the opposition for not fighting it hard enough.
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Krivili su vođu opozicije što se nije dovoljno žustro borio.
01:30
The young accused the old.
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Mladi su krivili stare.
01:31
The educated blamed the less well-educated.
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Obrazovni su krivili one manje obrazovane.
01:35
That complete meltdown was made even worse
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To potpuno rasulo je pogoršao
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by the most tragic element of it:
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najtragičniji element svega:
01:40
levels of xenophobia and racist abuse in the streets of Britain
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nivoi ksenofobije i rasne zloupotrebe na ulicama Britanije
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at a level that I have never seen before
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na nivou koji do sada nisam video
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in my lifetime.
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u svom životu.
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People are now talking about whether my country is becoming a Little England,
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Ljudi sada pričaju o tome da li moja zemlja postaje Mala Engleska,
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or, as one of my colleagues put it,
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ili kako kaže jedan moj kolega,
01:56
whether we're about to become a 1950s nostalgia theme park
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da li ćemo postati nostalgični zabavni park iz 50-ih godina
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floating in the Atlantic Ocean.
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koji pluta u Atlantskom okeanu.
02:02
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
02:05
But my question is really,
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Ali moje pitanje je zapravo,
02:08
should we have the degree of shock that we've experienced since?
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da li treba da nas prati osećanje šoka koje doživljavamo sve od tad?
02:13
Was it something that took place overnight?
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Da li je to nešto što se desilo preko noći?
02:15
Or are there deeper structural factors that have led us to where we are today?
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Ili postoje dublji strukturni faktori koji su nas doveli tu gde smo danas?
02:20
So I want to take a step back and ask two very basic questions.
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Želim da načinim korak unazad i postavim dva veoma prosta pitanja.
02:24
First, what does Brexit represent,
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Prvo, šta predstavlja Bregzit,
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not just for my country,
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ne samo za moju zemlju,
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but for all of us around the world?
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već za sve nas širom sveta?
02:32
And second, what can we do about it?
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I drugo, šta možemo da uradimo povodom toga?
02:35
How should we all respond?
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Kako da odgovorimo na to?
02:37
So first, what does Brexit represent?
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Prvo, šta predstavlja Bregzit?
02:40
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
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Naknadna pamet je divna stvar.
02:43
Brexit teaches us many things about our society
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Bregzit nas uči toliko toga o našem društvu
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and about societies around the world.
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i o društvima širom sveta.
02:51
It highlights in ways that we seem embarrassingly unaware of
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Na razne načine naglašava to da smo sramotno nesvesni toga
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how divided our societies are.
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koliko su podeljena naša društva.
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The vote split along lines of age, education, class and geography.
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Glasovi su bili podeljeni po godinama, obrazovanju, klasi i mestu glasanja.
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Young people didn't turn out to vote in great numbers,
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Nije izašlo mnogo mladih na glasanje,
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but those that did wanted to remain.
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ali oni koji su glasali, glasali su za ostanak.
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Older people really wanted to leave the European Union.
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Stariji ljudi su zaista želeli da napuste Evropsku uniju.
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Geographically, it was London and Scotland that most strongly committed
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Geografski, London i Škotska bili su najposvećeniji tome
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to being part of the European Union,
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da ostanu deo Evropske unije,
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while in other parts of the country there was very strong ambivalence.
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dok je u drugim delovima zemlje postojala veoma jaka ambivalentnost.
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Those divisions are things we really need to recognize and take seriously.
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Te podele su stvari koje zaista moramo da prepoznamo i shvatimo ozbiljno.
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But more profoundly, the vote teaches us something
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Ali na dubljem nivou, glasanje nas uči nečemu
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about the nature of politics today.
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o prirodi današnje politike.
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Contemporary politics is no longer just about right and left.
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Savremena politika više se ne tiče samo desnice i levice.
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It's no longer just about tax and spend.
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Ne tiče se više samo poreza i troškova.
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It's about globalization.
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Tiče se globalizacije.
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The fault line of contemporary politics is between those that embrace globalization
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Raskol u savremenoj poltici je među onima koji prihvataju globalizaciju
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and those that fear globalization.
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i onima koji je se plaše.
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
03:55
If we look at why those who wanted to leave --
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Ukoliko pogledamo zašto oni koji su želeli da odu -
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we call them "Leavers," as opposed to "Remainers" --
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zovemo ih "odlazeći", naspram "ostajućih" -
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we see two factors in the opinion polls
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vidimo dva faktora u anketama
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that really mattered.
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koji su bili zaista bitni.
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The first was immigration, and the second sovereignty,
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Prvi je bio imigracija, a drugi suverenitet
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and these represent a desire for people to take back control of their own lives
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i oni predstavljaju želju mnogih da povrate kontrolu nad svojim životima
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and the feeling that they are unrepresented by politicians.
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i osećanje da ih političari ne predstavljaju dovoljno.
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But those ideas are ones that signify fear and alienation.
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Ali te ideje pojačavaju strah i otuđenje.
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They represent a retreat back towards nationalism and borders
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One predstavljaju povlačenje nazad ka nacionalizmu i granicama
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in ways that many of us would reject.
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na načine koji bi mnogi od nas odbacili.
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What I want to suggest is the picture is more complicated than that,
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Želim da predložim da je slika mnogo komplikovanija od toga,
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that liberal internationalists,
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da liberalni internacionalisti
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like myself, and I firmly include myself in that picture,
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poput mene, a ja sebe čvrsto pozicioniram u ovaj okvir,
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need to write ourselves back into the picture
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moraju da sebe ponovo ubace u priču
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in order to understand how we've got to where we are today.
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kako bismo razumeli kako smo došli tu gde smo danas.
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When we look at the voting patterns across the United Kingdom,
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Kada pogledamo šablone glasanja kroz Ujedinjeno Kraljevstvo,
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we can visibly see the divisions.
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jasno se vide podele.
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The blue areas show Remain
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Plava područja su ostajanje
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and the red areas Leave.
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a crvena napuštanje.
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When I looked at this,
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Kada sam pogledao ovo,
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what personally struck me was the very little time in my life
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lično me je pogodila veoma mala količina vremena
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I've actually spent in many of the red areas.
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koju sam zapravo proveo u mnogim crvenim područjima.
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I suddenly realized that, looking at the top 50 areas in the UK
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Odjednom sam shvatio da, gledajući gornjih 50 područja,
koja imaju najviše glasova za napuštanje,
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that have the strongest Leave vote,
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05:13
I've spent a combined total of four days of my life in those areas.
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proveo sam ukupno četiri dana u tim područjima.
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In some of those places,
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U nekim od tih mesta
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I didn't even know the names of the voting districts.
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nisam ni znao imena okruga za glasanje.
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It was a real shock to me,
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Za mene je to bio pravi šok
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and it suggested that people like me
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i naznaka da ljudi poput mene
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who think of ourselves as inclusive, open and tolerant,
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koji za sebe misle da su inkluzivni, otvoreni i tolerantni,
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perhaps don't know our own countries and societies
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možda ne znaju sopstvene zemlje i društva
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nearly as well as we like to believe.
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ni blizu onome koliko verujemo.
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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And the challenge that comes from that is we need to find a new way
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Izazov koji proističe iz toga je da moramo da pronađemo novi način
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to narrate globalization to those people,
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da prenesemo globalizaciju ovim ljudima,
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to recognize that for those people who have not necessarily been to university,
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da prepoznamo da za ove ljude koji možda nisu išli na fakultet,
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who haven't necessarily grown up with the Internet,
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koji možda nisu odrasli uz internet,
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that don't get opportunities to travel,
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koji nemaju prilike za putovanja,
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they may be unpersuaded by the narrative that we find persuasive
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možda im nije privlačna priča koju mi smatramo privlačnom
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in our often liberal bubbles.
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u svojim često liberalnim mehurima.
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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It means that we need to reach out more broadly and understand.
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To znači da moramo da posegnemo šire i da razumemo.
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In the Leave vote, a minority have peddled the politics of fear and hatred,
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Kod glasanja za napuštanje, manjina je gurala politiku straha i mržnje
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creating lies and mistrust
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i stvarala laži i nepoverenje,
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around, for instance, the idea that the vote on Europe
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na primer oko ideje da bi glas koji se tiče Evrope
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could reduce the number of refugees and asylum-seekers coming to Europe,
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smanjio broj izbeglica i azilanata koji dolaze u Evropu,
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when the vote on leaving had nothing to do with immigration
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iako se glas za napuštanje uopšte nije ticao imigracija
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from outside the European Union.
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iz područja van Evropske unije.
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But for a significant majority of the Leave voters
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Ali za značajnu većinu glasača za napuštanje,
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the concern was disillusionment with the political establishment.
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briga je bila nepoverenje u politički establišment.
06:48
This was a protest vote for many,
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Ovo je za mnoge bilo protestno glasanje,
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a sense that nobody represented them,
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osećaj da ih niko ne predstavlja,
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that they couldn't find a political party that spoke for them,
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da nisu mogli da nađu stranku koja ih je zastupala
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and so they rejected that political establishment.
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i tako su odbili taj establišment.
07:01
This replicates around Europe and much of the liberal democratic world.
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Ovo odzvanja širom Evrope i većinom liberalnog demokratskog sveta.
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We see it with the rise in popularity of Donald Trump in the United States,
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To vidimo u povećanju popularnosti Donalda Trampa u SAD-u,
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with the growing nationalism of Viktor Orbán in Hungary,
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sa rastućim nacionalizmom Viktora Orbana u Mađarskoj,
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with the increase in popularity of Marine Le Pen in France.
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sa rastom popularnosti Marin le Pen u Francuskoj.
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The specter of Brexit is in all of our societies.
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Spektar Bregzita je u svim našim društvima.
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So the question I think we need to ask is my second question,
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Pitanje koje treba da postavimo je moje drugo pitanje,
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which is how should we collectively respond?
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a to je, kako treba da odgovorimo zajednički?
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For all of us who care about creating liberal, open, tolerant societies,
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Za sve nas kojima je stalo do stvaranja
liberalnih, otvorenih, tolerantnih društava,
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we urgently need a new vision,
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hitno nam je potrebna nova vizija,
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a vision of a more tolerant, inclusive globalization,
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vizija tolerantnije, inkluzivnije globalizacije,
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one that brings people with us rather than leaving them behind.
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one koja zbližava ljude s nama, umesto da ih ostavlja iza.
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That vision of globalization
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Ta vizija globalizacije
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is one that has to start by a recognition of the positive benefits of globalization.
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je ona koja mora da počne prepoznavanjem pozitivnih efekata globalizacije.
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The consensus amongst economists
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Ekonomisti se slažu
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is that free trade, the movement of capital,
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da su slobodna trgovina, kretanje kapitala,
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the movement of people across borders
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kretanje ljudi preko granica,
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benefit everyone on aggregate.
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korisni za sve.
08:05
The consensus amongst international relations scholars
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Akademici iz polja međunarodnih odnosa
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is that globalization brings interdependence,
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slažu se da globalizacija donosi međusobnu zavisnost,
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which brings cooperation and peace.
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što dovodi do saradnje i mira.
08:13
But globalization also has redistributive effects.
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Ali globalizacija takođe ima i efekte preraspodele.
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It creates winners and losers.
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Ona stvara gubitnike i pobednike.
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To take the example of migration,
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Uzmimo primer imigracije,
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we know that immigration is a net positive for the economy as a whole
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znamo da je imigracija neto pozitivna za ekonomiju u globalu
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under almost all circumstances.
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pod skoro svim okolnostima.
08:30
But we also have to be very aware
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Ali takođe moramo biti veoma svesni
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that there are redistributive consequences,
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da postoje posledice preraspodele,
08:36
that importantly, low-skilled immigration
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da je bitno da imigracija radnika niske kvalifikacije
08:39
can lead to a reduction in wages for the most impoverished in our societies
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može dovesti do smanjenja plata za najsiromašnije u našim društvima
08:44
and also put pressure on house prices.
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kao i da vrši pritisak na cene nekretnina.
08:46
That doesn't detract from the fact that it's positive,
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To ne menja činjenicu da je pozitivna,
08:48
but it means more people have to share in those benefits
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ali znači da više ljudi mora da deli te prednosti
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and recognize them.
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i da ih prepozna.
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In 2002, the former Secretary-General of the United Nations, Kofi Annan,
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Godine 2002, bivši sekretar Ujedinjenih nacija, Kofi Anan,
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gave a speech at Yale University,
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održao je govor na univerzitetu Jejl
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and that speech was on the topic of inclusive globalization.
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i govor se ticao teme inkluzivne globalizacije.
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That was the speech in which he coined that term.
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To je bio govor gde je on skovao taj izraz.
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And he said, and I paraphrase,
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Rekao je, parafraziram:
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"The glass house of globalization has to be open to all
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"Kuća od stakla globalizacije mora biti otvorena svima
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if it is to remain secure.
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ukoliko želimo da ostane bezbedna.
09:21
Bigotry and ignorance
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Predrasude i neznanje
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are the ugly face of exclusionary and antagonistic globalization."
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su ružno lice isključive i antagonističke globalizacije."
09:31
That idea of inclusive globalization was briefly revived in 2008
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Ta ideja inkluzivne globalizacije nakratko je oživljena 2008.
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in a conference on progressive governance
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na konferenciji o progresivnoj vladavini
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involving many of the leaders of European countries.
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gde je bilo mnogo vođa evropskih zemalja.
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But amid austerity and the financial crisis of 2008,
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Ali usred mera štednje i finansijske krize 2008,
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the concept disappeared almost without a trace.
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zamisao je nestala skoro bez traga.
09:50
Globalization has been taken to support a neoliberal agenda.
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Za globalizaciju se kaže da podržava neoliberalni poredak.
09:54
It's perceived to be part of an elite agenda
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Smatraju je delom elitnog poretka
09:57
rather than something that benefits all.
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umesto nečim što doprinosi svima.
10:00
And it needs to be reclaimed on a far more inclusive basis
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Ona se mora vratiti nazad mnogo inkluzivnijim osnovama
10:03
than it is today.
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nego što je to danas.
10:05
So the question is, how can we achieve that goal?
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Pitanje je, kako postići taj cilj?
10:09
How can we balance on the one hand addressing fear and alienation
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Kako, sa jedne strane, balansirati borbu sa strahom i otuđenjem
10:14
while on the other hand refusing vehemently
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dok sa druge strane žestoko odbijamo
10:17
to give in to xenophobia and nationalism?
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da se predamo ksenofobiji i nacionalizmu?
10:21
That is the question for all of us.
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To je pitanje za sve nas.
10:23
And I think, as a social scientist,
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Kao sociolog,
10:25
that social science offers some places to start.
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mislim da sociologija nudi neka mesta za početak.
10:29
Our transformation has to be about both ideas and about material change,
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Naša transformacija mora se ticati i ideja i materijalne promene
10:34
and I want to give you four ideas as a starting point.
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i želim da vam dam četiri ideje kao polazne tačke.
10:37
The first relates to the idea of civic education.
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Prva se odnosi na ideju građanskog obrazovanja.
10:42
What stands out from Brexit
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Iz Bregzita proizilazi
10:44
is the gap between public perception and empirical reality.
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razdor između percepcije javnosti i empirijske stvarnosti.
10:48
It's been suggested that we've moved to a postfactual society,
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Kažu da smo se prebacili u postčinjenično društvo,
10:52
where evidence and truth no longer matter,
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gde dokazi i istine nisu bitni
10:54
and lies have equal status to the clarity of evidence.
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i laži imaju jednak status kao jasnoća dokaza.
10:58
So how can we --
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Kako onda da -
11:00
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11:02
How can we rebuild respect for truth and evidence into our liberal democracies?
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Kako onda da povratimo poštovanje za istinu i dokaze
u svoje liberalne demokratije?
11:08
It has to begin with education,
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Mora se početi obrazovanjem,
11:10
but it has to start with the recognition that there are huge gaps.
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ali mora se početi priznavanjem da postoje ogromni jazovi.
11:14
In 2014, the pollster Ipsos MORI
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Godine 2014, Ipsos MORI
11:18
published a survey on attitudes to immigration,
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objavio je istraživanje o stavovima o imigraciji
11:21
and it showed that as numbers of immigrants increase,
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i pokazalo je da kako se povećava broj imigranata,
11:26
so public concern with immigration also increases,
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tako raste i zabrinutost javnosti o imigraciji,
11:29
although it obviously didn't unpack causality,
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iako to očigledno ne podrazumeva uzročnost,
11:31
because this could equally be to do not so much with numbers
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jer i ovo ne bi moralo toliko da se tiče brojeva
11:34
but the political and media narrative around it.
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koliko političke i medijske priče iza njih.
11:37
But the same survey also revealed
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Ali isto istraživanje je otkrilo
11:41
huge public misinformation
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veliku dezinformisanost javnosti
11:43
and misunderstanding about the nature of immigration.
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i nesporazum oko prirode imigracije.
11:47
For example, in these attitudes in the United Kingdom,
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Na primer, u ovim stavovima širom Ujedinjenog Kraljevstva,
11:50
the public believed that levels of asylum
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javnost je verovala da su nivoi azila
11:53
were a greater proportion of immigration than they were,
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bili u većoj proporciji iz imigracije nego što su bili
11:56
but they also believed the levels of educational migration
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ali su takođe verovali da su nivoi imigracije zbog obrazovanja
12:00
were far lower as a proportion of overall migration
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mnogo niži u ukupnoj proporciji imigracije
12:03
than they actually are.
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nego što su zaista bili.
12:05
So we have to address this misinformation,
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Moramo da se pozabavimo ovom dezinformacijom,
12:07
the gap between perception and reality on key aspects of globalization.
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jazom između utiska i stvarnosti kod ključnih aspekata globalizacije.
12:12
And that can't just be something that's left to our schools,
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A to ne može prosto biti nešto što ćemo ostaviti našim školama,
12:15
although that's important to begin at an early age.
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iako je bitno početi s time u ranom dobu.
12:17
It has to be about lifelong civic participation
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Mora se ticati doživotne građanske uključenosti
12:20
and public engagement that we all encourage as societies.
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i angažmana javnosti koji svi mi podržavamo kao društva.
12:26
The second thing that I think is an opportunity
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Druga stvar za koju mislim da je prilika
12:28
is the idea to encourage more interaction across diverse communities.
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je ideja da ohrabri više interakcije među različitim zajednicama.
12:33
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(Aplauz)
12:37
One of the things that stands out for me very strikingly,
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Jedna od stvari koja se meni izričito ističe,
12:40
looking at immigration attitudes in the United Kingdom,
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gledajući na stavove prema imigraciji u Ujedinjenom Kraljevstvu,
12:43
is that ironically, the regions of my country
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je da ironično, delovi moje zemlje
12:46
that are the most tolerant of immigrants
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koji su najtolerantniji prema imigrantima
12:48
have the highest numbers of immigrants.
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imaju najveći broj imigranata.
12:51
So for instance, London and the Southeast have the highest numbers of immigrants,
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Na primer, London i jugoistok zemlje imaju najviši broj imigranata
12:55
and they are also by far the most tolerant areas.
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i takođe su daleko najtolerantnija područja.
12:58
It's those areas of the country that have the lowest levels of immigration
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Oni delovi zemlje koji imaju najniže nivoe imigracije
13:02
that actually are the most exclusionary and intolerant towards migrants.
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su zapravo najisključiviji i najnetolerantniji prema migrantima.
13:07
So we need to encourage exchange programs.
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Moramo da podstičemo programe razmene.
13:09
We need to ensure that older generations who maybe can't travel
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Moramo da se potrudimo da starije generacije
koje možda ne mogu da putuju
13:13
get access to the Internet.
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imaju pristup internetu.
13:15
We need to encourage, even on a local and national level,
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Moramo da podstaknemo, čak i na lokalnom i državnom nivou,
13:18
more movement, more participation,
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više kretanja, učestvovanja,
13:20
more interaction with people who we don't know
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više interakcije sa ljudima koje ne poznajemo
13:22
and whose views we might not necessarily agree with.
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i sa čijim stanovištima se možda i ne slažemo.
13:26
The third thing that I think is crucial, though,
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Treća stvar za koju mislim da je ključna,
13:29
and this is really fundamental,
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a ovo je zaista bitno,
13:31
is we have to ensure that everybody shares
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moramo se postarati da svako deli
13:33
in the benefits of globalization.
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blagodeti globalizacije.
13:36
This illustration from the Financial Times post-Brexit is really striking.
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Ova ilustracija iz "Fajnenšal tajmsa" nakon Bregzita je zaista upečatljiva.
13:41
It shows tragically that those people who voted to leave the European Union
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Tragično pokazuje da su oni ljudi
koji su glasali za napuštanje Evropske unije
13:45
were those who actually benefited the most materially
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bili oni koji su zapravo imali najviše materijalne koristi
13:47
from trade with the European Union.
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od trgovine sa Evropskom unijom.
13:51
But the problem is that those people in those areas
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Problem je u tome što ti ljudi u tim područjima
13:53
didn't perceive themselves to be beneficiaries.
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nisu sebe videli kao uživaoce u blagodetima.
13:56
They didn't believe that they were actually getting access
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Nisu verovali da oni zapravo dobijaju pristup materijalnim dobrima
13:59
to material benefits of increased trade and increased mobility around the world.
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iz povećane trgovine, kao i povećanu mobilnost širom sveta.
14:05
I work on questions predominantly to do with refugees,
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Radim na pitanjima koja se prevashodno tiču izbeglica,
14:09
and one of the ideas I spent a lot of my time preaching,
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i jedna od ideja koju sam dosta dugo ponavljao,
14:12
mainly to developing countries around the world,
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većinom u zemljama u razvoju širom sveta,
14:15
is that in order to encourage the integration of refugees,
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je da kako bi se podstakla integracija izbeglica,
14:18
we can't just benefit the refugee populations,
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ne možemo prosto da damo blagodeti izbegličkom stanovništvu,
14:21
we also have to address the concerns of the host communities in local areas.
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moramo i da rešimo probleme zajednica domaćina u lokalnim područjima.
14:27
But in looking at that,
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Ali gledajući na to,
14:28
one of the policy prescriptions is that we have to provide
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jedna od preporuka za politiku je da moramo da pružimo
14:31
disproportionately better education facilities, health facilities,
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neproporcionalno bolje ustanove za obrazovanje, zdravstvo
14:35
access to social services
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i pristup socijalnim uslugama
14:37
in those regions of high immigration
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u tim područjima sa visokom imigracijom
14:39
to address the concerns of those local populations.
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kako bi se rešili problemi tog lokalnog stanovništva.
14:42
But while we encourage that around the developing world,
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Ali iako podstičemo to širom sveta u razvoju,
14:45
we don't take those lessons home
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te lekcije ne primenjujemo kod kuće
14:46
and incorporate them in our own societies.
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i ne uključujemo ih u sopstvenim društvima.
14:50
Furthermore, if we're going to really take seriously
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Štaviše, ako ćemo zaista da uzmemo za ozbiljno
14:53
the need to ensure people share in the economic benefits,
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potrebu da se postaramo da ljudi dele ekonomske blagodeti,
14:56
our businesses and corporations need a model of globalization
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našim kompanijama i korporacijama potreban je model globalizacije
15:00
that recognizes that they, too, have to take people with them.
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koji prepoznaje i činjenicu da i oni moraju da približe ljude sebi.
15:05
The fourth and final idea I want to put forward
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Četvrta i poslednja ideja koju želim da predložim
15:08
is an idea that we need more responsible politics.
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je ideja da nam je svima potrebna odgovornija politika.
15:12
There's very little social science evidence
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Postoji veoma malo socioloških dokaza
15:15
that compares attitudes on globalization.
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gde se porede stavovi o globalizaciji.
15:18
But from the surveys that do exist,
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Ali iz istraživanja koja postoje,
15:20
what we can see is there's huge variation across different countries
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možemo videti ogromne varijacije širom različitih zemalja
15:25
and time periods in those countries
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i vremenskih perioda u tim zemljama
15:27
for attitudes and tolerance
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što se tiče stavova i tolerancije
15:29
of questions like migration and mobility on the one hand
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kod pitanja poput migracije i mobilnosti sa jedne strane
15:32
and free trade on the other.
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i slobodne trgovine sa druge strane.
15:34
But one hypothesis that I think emerges from a cursory look at that data
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Ali mislim da se javlja jedna hipoteza iz letimičnog pogleda na te podatke,
15:40
is the idea that polarized societies are far less tolerant of globalization.
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ideja da su polarizovana društva mnogo manje tolerantna na globalizaciju.
15:46
It's the societies like Sweden in the past,
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Društva poput Švedske u prošlosti,
15:49
like Canada today,
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današnje Kanade,
15:50
where there is a centrist politics,
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gde postoji politika centrizma,
15:52
where right and left work together,
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gde levica i desnica sarađuju,
15:54
that we encourage supportive attitudes towards globalization.
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tu se podržavaju pozitivni stavovi ka globalizaciji.
15:58
And what we see around the world today is a tragic polarization,
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Danas širom sveta vidimo tragičnu polarizaciju,
16:02
a failure to have dialogue between the extremes in politics,
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nemogućnost vođenja dijaloga između političkih ekstrema,
16:05
and a gap in terms of that liberal center ground
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kao i jaz koji se tiče tog centralnog liberalnog tla
16:08
that can encourage communication and a shared understanding.
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koji može da podstakne komunikaciju i zajedničko razumevanje.
16:12
We might not achieve that today,
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Možda to nećemo postići danas,
16:13
but at the very least we have to call upon our politicians and our media
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ali u najmanju ruku moramo da pozovemo svoje političare i medije
16:17
to drop a language of fear and be far more tolerant of one another.
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da napuste jezik straha i budu tolerantniji jedni prema drugima.
16:21
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
16:29
These ideas are very tentative,
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Ove ideje su veoma okvirne i to je delom zbog toga
16:32
and that's in part because this needs to be an inclusive and shared project.
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što ovo mora da bude inkluzivan i zajednički projekat.
16:38
I am still British.
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Još uvek sam Britanac.
16:40
I am still European.
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Još uvek sam Evropljanin.
16:43
I am still a global citizen.
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Još uvek sam globalni građanin.
16:47
For those of us who believe
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Za one među nama koji veruju
16:49
that our identities are not mutually exclusive,
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da naši identiteti nisu međusobno isključivi,
16:53
we have to all work together
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svi moramo da radimo zajedno
16:56
to ensure that globalization takes everyone with us
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da se postaramo da globalizacija povede svakog sa nama
17:00
and doesn't leave people behind.
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i ne ostavi nikog iza sebe.
17:02
Only then will we truly reconcile democracy and globalization.
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Samo onda ćemo zaista pomiriti globalizaciju i demokratiju.
17:07
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
17:09
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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