Why Brexit happened -- and what to do next | Alexander Betts

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Translator: Alan Watson Reviewer: Winnie Ling
00:13
I am British.
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我係英國人
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
00:17
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
00:20
Never before has the phrase "I am British" elicited so much pity.
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「我係英國人」呢句說話
從來未引起過咁多人同情
00:24
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
00:26
I come from an island where many of us like to believe
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我嚟自一個島國
好多人都相信 過去咁多年有好多嘢持續發生緊
00:29
there's been a lot of continuity over the last thousand years.
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00:33
We tend to have historically imposed change on others
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歷史上,我哋傾向改變其他國家
00:36
but done much less of it ourselves.
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但好少改變自己
00:39
So it came as an immense shock to me
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所以當我六月廿四號朝早起身
00:41
when I woke up on the morning of June 24
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發現我個國家公投結果係脫歐之後
00:44
to discover that my country had voted to leave the European Union,
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我好震驚
00:48
my Prime Minister had resigned,
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首相辭咗職
00:50
and Scotland was considering a referendum
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蘇格蘭講緊第二場公投
有可能令英國瓦解
00:53
that could bring to an end the very existence of the United Kingdom.
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00:58
So that was an immense shock for me,
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所以成件事對於我嚟講都幾震撼
01:01
and it was an immense shock for many people,
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對於好多人嚟講都係
01:05
but it was also something that, over the following several days,
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但呢件事幾日後
01:08
created a complete political meltdown
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發展成我國家嘅一個政治危機
01:11
in my country.
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01:12
There were calls for a second referendum,
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有呼聲話要舉行第二場公投
01:15
almost as if, following a sports match,
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呢個情況就好似運動比賽完咗
01:17
we could ask the opposition for a replay.
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我哋叫對手重新比賽一樣
01:20
Everybody was blaming everybody else.
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每個人都指責其他人
01:23
People blamed the Prime Minister
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人民指責首相
01:24
for calling the referendum in the first place.
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話佢當初做咩搞公投
01:27
They blamed the leader of the opposition for not fighting it hard enough.
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啲人鬧在野黨黨魁唔夠努力爭取
後生指控老人家
01:30
The young accused the old.
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01:31
The educated blamed the less well-educated.
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受過教育責備無受過良好教育嘅
01:35
That complete meltdown was made even worse
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危機裏面最不幸嘅事
令成個危機更差
01:38
by the most tragic element of it:
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01:40
levels of xenophobia and racist abuse in the streets of Britain
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仇外同種族情緒充斥喺英國街頭
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at a level that I have never seen before
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去到我前所未見嘅水平
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in my lifetime.
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01:49
People are now talking about whether my country is becoming a Little England,
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啲人宜家講緊究竟我個國家
會變成小英格蘭
01:54
or, as one of my colleagues put it,
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定係好似我同事話齋
01:56
whether we're about to become a 1950s nostalgia theme park
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變成一個浮沉喺大西洋嘅
五十年代懷舊公園
02:00
floating in the Atlantic Ocean.
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02:02
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
02:05
But my question is really,
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但我嘅問題係
02:08
should we have the degree of shock that we've experienced since?
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我哋應唔應該保持震驚嘅程度呢?
02:13
Was it something that took place overnight?
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究竟脫歐係咪一夜之間出現呢?
02:15
Or are there deeper structural factors that have led us to where we are today?
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定係有深層結構性因素
令我哋走到今日咁嘅地步?
02:20
So I want to take a step back and ask two very basic questions.
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我想退一步,問兩個好基本嘅問題
02:24
First, what does Brexit represent,
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第一,英國脫歐代表咩?
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not just for my country,
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唔只對我國家
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but for all of us around the world?
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佢對全世界有咩意思?
02:32
And second, what can we do about it?
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第二,我哋可以喺脫歐之後做啲乜?
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How should we all respond?
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我哋要點樣應對?
02:37
So first, what does Brexit represent?
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返去第一條問題,英國脫歐代表咩?
02:40
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
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事後孔明係一件有趣嘅事
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Brexit teaches us many things about our society
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脫歐教曉好多關於我哋社會嘅嘢
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and about societies around the world.
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以至世界上其他社會嘅嘢
02:51
It highlights in ways that we seem embarrassingly unaware of
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脫歐呢件事反映咗
我哋唔為意我哋社會有幾分裂
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how divided our societies are.
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02:56
The vote split along lines of age, education, class and geography.
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投票取向因年齡、教育程度、
階級同地理位置而唔同
03:03
Young people didn't turn out to vote in great numbers,
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年輕人唔踴躍投票
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but those that did wanted to remain.
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但出咗嚟投票嘅年輕人都投咗留歐
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Older people really wanted to leave the European Union.
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長者想脫歐
03:12
Geographically, it was London and Scotland that most strongly committed
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地理上,倫敦同蘇格蘭最想留歐
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to being part of the European Union,
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while in other parts of the country there was very strong ambivalence.
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而其他地方就一半一半
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Those divisions are things we really need to recognize and take seriously.
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取態唔同係我哋需要認真看待嘅嘢
03:27
But more profoundly, the vote teaches us something
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但更重要既係
公投話咗畀我哋聽今日嘅政治形勢
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about the nature of politics today.
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03:32
Contemporary politics is no longer just about right and left.
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當代政治唔再只係左翼同右翼
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It's no longer just about tax and spend.
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唔再只係交稅同開支
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It's about globalization.
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當代政治係講緊全球化
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The fault line of contemporary politics is between those that embrace globalization
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當代政治嘅分裂在於
鍾意同害怕全球化之間
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and those that fear globalization.
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03:50
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
03:55
If we look at why those who wanted to leave --
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如果我哋睇下想脫歐嘅人
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we call them "Leavers," as opposed to "Remainers" --
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我哋叫佢哋做脫歐陣營 相反嘅係留歐陣營
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we see two factors in the opinion polls
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我哋見到民意調查裏面 兩個好重要嘅因素
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that really mattered.
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04:04
The first was immigration, and the second sovereignty,
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第一係移民,其次係國家主權
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and these represent a desire for people to take back control of their own lives
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呢兩樣都代表咗
啲人想爭取返佢哋生活嘅自主權
04:13
and the feeling that they are unrepresented by politicians.
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代表佢哋覺得
參政嘅人唔代表佢哋
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But those ideas are ones that signify fear and alienation.
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但呢啲脫歐諗法意味住恐懼同孤立
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They represent a retreat back towards nationalism and borders
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代表倒退到民族主義同邊界管制嘅年代
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in ways that many of us would reject.
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而我哋好多人都接受唔到
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What I want to suggest is the picture is more complicated than that,
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我想講成件事嘅更加複雜
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that liberal internationalists,
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自由國際主義者,好似我咁
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like myself, and I firmly include myself in that picture,
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需要將自己擺埋落成件事裏面
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need to write ourselves back into the picture
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04:42
in order to understand how we've got to where we are today.
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至可以明白
我哋點樣走到今時今日嘅地步
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When we look at the voting patterns across the United Kingdom,
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我哋睇返投票分佈
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we can visibly see the divisions.
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我哋見到分裂
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The blue areas show Remain
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藍色係留歐
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and the red areas Leave.
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紅色係脫歐
04:57
When I looked at this,
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當我睇到呢幅圖
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what personally struck me was the very little time in my life
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我覺得好震撼嘅係
我人生冇幾多時間喺紅色嘅地方生活
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I've actually spent in many of the red areas.
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05:06
I suddenly realized that, looking at the top 50 areas in the UK
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望住頭五十個最想脫歐嘅地方
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that have the strongest Leave vote,
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我突然意識到
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I've spent a combined total of four days of my life in those areas.
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我只係花咗四日喺呢啲哋方生活
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In some of those places,
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呢五十個地方當中
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I didn't even know the names of the voting districts.
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我甚至唔知道一啲選區嘅名
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It was a real shock to me,
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我對呢樣嘢好驚訝
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and it suggested that people like me
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呢樣嘢亦都反映
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who think of ourselves as inclusive, open and tolerant,
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好似我以為自己包容、開放、忍耐嘅人
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perhaps don't know our own countries and societies
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或者對於我哋嘅國家同社會
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nearly as well as we like to believe.
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同自己願意去相信嘅事物一樣咁唔清楚
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(Applause)
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(掌聲)
05:48
And the challenge that comes from that is we need to find a new way
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而伴隨著嘅挑戰係我哋要搵新方法
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to narrate globalization to those people,
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向支持脫歐嘅人解釋全球化
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to recognize that for those people who have not necessarily been to university,
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同埋要明白呢啲人未必讀過大學
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who haven't necessarily grown up with the Internet,
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互聯網未必陪伴佢哋成長
06:01
that don't get opportunities to travel,
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佢哋未必去過旅行
06:04
they may be unpersuaded by the narrative that we find persuasive
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佢哋可能未被我哋自由社會裏面
覺得有說服嘅嘢說服
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in our often liberal bubbles.
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06:10
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
06:15
It means that we need to reach out more broadly and understand.
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即係話我哋要接觸同埋理解更多
06:19
In the Leave vote, a minority have peddled the politics of fear and hatred,
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喺呢次公投裏面
小數人激起政治恐懼同憎恨
06:25
creating lies and mistrust
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導致謊言同唔信任四起
06:28
around, for instance, the idea that the vote on Europe
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例如,留歐其實可以減少
06:31
could reduce the number of refugees and asylum-seekers coming to Europe,
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嚟歐洲嘅難民同申請庇護嘅人數
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when the vote on leaving had nothing to do with immigration
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但脫歐就一啲都做唔到
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from outside the European Union.
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06:41
But for a significant majority of the Leave voters
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大多數脫歐支持者嘅憂慮
06:44
the concern was disillusionment with the political establishment.
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係對政治體制嘅幻滅
06:48
This was a protest vote for many,
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呢場公投其實係一場抗議
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a sense that nobody represented them,
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抗議政制裏面無人代表到佢哋
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that they couldn't find a political party that spoke for them,
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佢哋搵唔到為佢哋發聲嘅政黨
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and so they rejected that political establishment.
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於是佢哋唔要宜家嘅政治體制
07:01
This replicates around Europe and much of the liberal democratic world.
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呢種不滿政制嘅情況喺歐洲
同好多自由民主嘅國家重覆出現
07:06
We see it with the rise in popularity of Donald Trump in the United States,
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同時,我哋見到特朗普喺美國冒起
07:11
with the growing nationalism of Viktor Orbán in Hungary,
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匈牙利總理奧班嘅民族主義喺當地冒起
07:15
with the increase in popularity of Marine Le Pen in France.
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馬琳 · 勒龐喺法國嘅愈嚟愈受歡迎
07:20
The specter of Brexit is in all of our societies.
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成個社會裏面都有支持英國脫歐嘅人
07:25
So the question I think we need to ask is my second question,
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咁我哋就要問第二個問題
07:28
which is how should we collectively respond?
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我哋要點樣一齊應對?
07:31
For all of us who care about creating liberal, open, tolerant societies,
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對於我哋關心營造
自由、開放、寛容社會嘅人嚟講
07:37
we urgently need a new vision,
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我哋急需要新願景
07:39
a vision of a more tolerant, inclusive globalization,
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營造更包容同更寛容嘅全球化
07:43
one that brings people with us rather than leaving them behind.
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令我哋走埋一齊,而唔係拋低邊個
07:48
That vision of globalization
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而當呢個全球化願景開始嘅時候
07:50
is one that has to start by a recognition of the positive benefits of globalization.
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我哋需要認識全球化嘅好處
07:55
The consensus amongst economists
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經濟學家都有共識
07:58
is that free trade, the movement of capital,
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全球化有利自由貿易、資金同人嘅流動
08:00
the movement of people across borders
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08:02
benefit everyone on aggregate.
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有利所有走埋一齊嘅人
08:05
The consensus amongst international relations scholars
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至於國際關係學者都同意
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is that globalization brings interdependence,
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全球化令國與國更加倚靠對方
08:10
which brings cooperation and peace.
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促成合作同和平
08:13
But globalization also has redistributive effects.
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但全球化有重新分配嘅效果
08:18
It creates winners and losers.
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佢創造贏家同輸家
08:21
To take the example of migration,
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用移民做例子
08:23
we know that immigration is a net positive for the economy as a whole
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我哋知道移民喺大多數情況下
08:26
under almost all circumstances.
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對經濟都係正面嘅
08:30
But we also have to be very aware
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但我哋亦都要好小心
08:33
that there are redistributive consequences,
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全球化帶嚟重新分配嘅結果
08:36
that importantly, low-skilled immigration
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尤其低技術移民
08:39
can lead to a reduction in wages for the most impoverished in our societies
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可以令社會最貧困嘅一群工資下降
08:44
and also put pressure on house prices.
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而且低技術移民會推高物業價格
08:46
That doesn't detract from the fact that it's positive,
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但以上都削弱唔到全球化嘅正面影響
08:48
but it means more people have to share in those benefits
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全球化只會令更多人受到正面影響
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and recognize them.
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08:55
In 2002, the former Secretary-General of the United Nations, Kofi Annan,
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2002 年,前聯合國秘書長安南
09:00
gave a speech at Yale University,
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喺耶魯大學發表演講
09:03
and that speech was on the topic of inclusive globalization.
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演講圍繞包容性全球化
09:07
That was the speech in which he coined that term.
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佢喺演講裏面創造咗 「包容性全球化」呢個詞
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And he said, and I paraphrase,
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我轉述返佢講嘅嘢︰
09:12
"The glass house of globalization has to be open to all
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「全球化如果要保持穩當嘅話
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if it is to remain secure.
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佢嘅大門就要向所有人打開
09:21
Bigotry and ignorance
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偏執同無知係排外同對抗全球化」
09:24
are the ugly face of exclusionary and antagonistic globalization."
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09:31
That idea of inclusive globalization was briefly revived in 2008
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2008 年,好多歐洲國家領袖參與
一個有關漸進式管治嘅會議
09:36
in a conference on progressive governance
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包容性全球化嘅概念再次被提出
09:38
involving many of the leaders of European countries.
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09:43
But amid austerity and the financial crisis of 2008,
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但 2008 年金融海嘯
同實行緊縮措施嗰陣
09:47
the concept disappeared almost without a trace.
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呢個概念消失得無影無蹤
09:50
Globalization has been taken to support a neoliberal agenda.
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全球化一直用喺新自由綱領裏面
09:54
It's perceived to be part of an elite agenda
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全球化被認為係精英人士嘅綱領
09:57
rather than something that benefits all.
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多過係有利各方嘅事物
10:00
And it needs to be reclaimed on a far more inclusive basis
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明日嘅全球化應該要比今日更加包容
10:03
than it is today.
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So the question is, how can we achieve that goal?
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咁問題係,我哋點樣做到呢?
10:09
How can we balance on the one hand addressing fear and alienation
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我哋點樣顧及恐懼、孤立嘅情緒
10:14
while on the other hand refusing vehemently
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而拒絕仇外、民族主義呢?
10:17
to give in to xenophobia and nationalism?
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10:21
That is the question for all of us.
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呢條問題係畀我哋所有人
10:23
And I think, as a social scientist,
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作為社會科學家
10:25
that social science offers some places to start.
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我覺得社會科學係解決問題嘅好開始
10:29
Our transformation has to be about both ideas and about material change,
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我哋需要係意念上同物質上轉變
10:34
and I want to give you four ideas as a starting point.
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我想講四個諗法作為你哋嘅開始
10:37
The first relates to the idea of civic education.
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第一係同公民教育有關
10:42
What stands out from Brexit
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英國脫歐最突出嘅係
10:44
is the gap between public perception and empirical reality.
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公眾認知同現實差距
10:48
It's been suggested that we've moved to a postfactual society,
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有人話我哋社會變成唔講事實
10:52
where evidence and truth no longer matter,
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證據同真相唔再重要
10:54
and lies have equal status to the clarity of evidence.
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反而大話同證據有同等地位
10:58
So how can we --
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咁我哋點…
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11:02
How can we rebuild respect for truth and evidence into our liberal democracies?
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喺呢個自由民主嘅社會裏面
我哋點重新尊重真相同證據?
11:08
It has to begin with education,
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咁就要由教育著手
11:10
but it has to start with the recognition that there are huge gaps.
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但要由認識巨大嘅差距開始
11:14
In 2014, the pollster Ipsos MORI
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2014 年,民意調查機構 Ipsos MORI
11:18
published a survey on attitudes to immigration,
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公佈一個英國人對於移民嘅態度調查
11:21
and it showed that as numbers of immigrants increase,
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調查顯示移民嚟英國嘅人愈多
11:26
so public concern with immigration also increases,
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公眾愈關注移民嘅情況
11:29
although it obviously didn't unpack causality,
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雖然調查明顯無解構其中嘅因果關係
11:31
because this could equally be to do not so much with numbers
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因為可能唔太關數字事
11:34
but the political and media narrative around it.
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但政治同傳媒方面就覺得兩者有關係
11:37
But the same survey also revealed
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但同一個調查發現
11:41
huge public misinformation
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公眾對於移民有好大嘅誤解
11:43
and misunderstanding about the nature of immigration.
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11:47
For example, in these attitudes in the United Kingdom,
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例如,英國公眾相信
11:50
the public believed that levels of asylum
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難民佔移民嘅比例比實際高
11:53
were a greater proportion of immigration than they were,
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11:56
but they also believed the levels of educational migration
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但佢哋同時相信
受教育嘅移民嘅比例遠低於實際
12:00
were far lower as a proportion of overall migration
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12:03
than they actually are.
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12:05
So we have to address this misinformation,
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我哋要重視呢個觀感同現實嘅落差
12:07
the gap between perception and reality on key aspects of globalization.
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呢個係全球化重要嘅方面
12:12
And that can't just be something that's left to our schools,
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但呢樣嘢唔可以剩係由學校做
12:15
although that's important to begin at an early age.
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雖然由細個開始著手係重要嘅
12:17
It has to be about lifelong civic participation
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處理落差需要花成世時間做公民參與
12:20
and public engagement that we all encourage as societies.
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而呢樣正係社會所期望嘅
12:26
The second thing that I think is an opportunity
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第二樣我覺得同時係機遇嘅係
12:28
is the idea to encourage more interaction across diverse communities.
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我哋可以鼓勵呢個分裂嘅社群 有更多交流
12:33
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12:37
One of the things that stands out for me very strikingly,
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當我睇返英國人對於移民態度嘅時候
12:40
looking at immigration attitudes in the United Kingdom,
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其中一樣非常引起我注意
12:43
is that ironically, the regions of my country
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好諷刺地
最包融移民嘅地方有最多移民
12:46
that are the most tolerant of immigrants
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12:48
have the highest numbers of immigrants.
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12:51
So for instance, London and the Southeast have the highest numbers of immigrants,
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例如倫敦同東南部有最多移民
12:55
and they are also by far the most tolerant areas.
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而呢兩個地方都係最接納到移民
12:58
It's those areas of the country that have the lowest levels of immigration
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至於,有最少移民嘅地方
13:02
that actually are the most exclusionary and intolerant towards migrants.
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就最排斥同最唔能夠包融移民
13:07
So we need to encourage exchange programs.
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所以我哋要鼓勵交流計劃嘅出現
13:09
We need to ensure that older generations who maybe can't travel
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我哋要令未必能夠旅行嘅
上一代可以上到網
13:13
get access to the Internet.
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13:15
We need to encourage, even on a local and national level,
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係本地或者國家層面
13:18
more movement, more participation,
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我哋都要鼓勵更多嘅流動、參與
13:20
more interaction with people who we don't know
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鼓勵同唔識嘅人
同睇法不完全一樣嘅人
13:22
and whose views we might not necessarily agree with.
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有更多嘅交流
13:26
The third thing that I think is crucial, though,
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第三我覺得關鍵而又好基本嘅係
13:29
and this is really fundamental,
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13:31
is we have to ensure that everybody shares
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我哋要確保每個人
都可以享受到全球化嘅成果
13:33
in the benefits of globalization.
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13:36
This illustration from the Financial Times post-Brexit is really striking.
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呢幅圖由金融時報做
係有關後脫歐時代,好震撼
13:41
It shows tragically that those people who voted to leave the European Union
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幅圖顯示想脫歐嘅人其實係
13:45
were those who actually benefited the most materially
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最受惠於歐盟貿易嘅物質成果
13:47
from trade with the European Union.
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13:51
But the problem is that those people in those areas
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但問題係
嗰啲喺想脫歐嘅地方嘅人
13:53
didn't perceive themselves to be beneficiaries.
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唔覺得佢哋係受惠於歐盟嘅一群
13:56
They didn't believe that they were actually getting access
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佢哋唔信佢哋受惠緊
13:59
to material benefits of increased trade and increased mobility around the world.
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世界貿易同流動上升
所帶嚟嘅物質成果
14:05
I work on questions predominantly to do with refugees,
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我主要鑽研難民問題
14:09
and one of the ideas I spent a lot of my time preaching,
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而我其中一個針對發展中國家
14:12
mainly to developing countries around the world,
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花咗好多時間宣揚嘅諗法
14:15
is that in order to encourage the integration of refugees,
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係若然要鼓勵難民融合
14:18
we can't just benefit the refugee populations,
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我哋唔可以剩係令難民受惠
14:21
we also have to address the concerns of the host communities in local areas.
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我哋亦要顧及本土社區嘅憂慮
14:27
But in looking at that,
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但睇返其中一項政策
14:28
one of the policy prescriptions is that we have to provide
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我哋要喺有大量移民嘅地區
14:31
disproportionately better education facilities, health facilities,
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提供唔合比例地好嘅
14:35
access to social services
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教育設施、醫療設施、社會服務
14:37
in those regions of high immigration
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14:39
to address the concerns of those local populations.
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以回應當地居民嘅憂慮
14:42
But while we encourage that around the developing world,
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但當我哋喺發展中國家行呢套嘅同時
14:45
we don't take those lessons home
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我哋冇將呢套帶返嚟我哋自己國家
14:46
and incorporate them in our own societies.
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用喺我哋自己社會入面
14:50
Furthermore, if we're going to really take seriously
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再講,如果我哋真係要
14:53
the need to ensure people share in the economic benefits,
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確保人人都可以享受經濟成果
14:56
our businesses and corporations need a model of globalization
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公司同企業就要一個全球化嘅示範
15:00
that recognizes that they, too, have to take people with them.
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令佢哋明白佢哋都要對人有所承擔
15:05
The fourth and final idea I want to put forward
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第四個,亦係最後一個就係
15:08
is an idea that we need more responsible politics.
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我哋需要更負責任嘅政治
15:12
There's very little social science evidence
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但我哋得好少社會科學嘅證據
15:15
that compares attitudes on globalization.
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比較啲人對全球化嘅態度
15:18
But from the surveys that do exist,
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但睇返現有嘅調查
15:20
what we can see is there's huge variation across different countries
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我哋可以睇到
國家之間
就算同一個國家喺唔同嘅時間
15:25
and time periods in those countries
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對於移民、人口流動 自由貿易嘅態度同承受能力
15:27
for attitudes and tolerance
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15:29
of questions like migration and mobility on the one hand
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15:32
and free trade on the other.
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都有好大差別
15:34
But one hypothesis that I think emerges from a cursory look at that data
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但從呢啲數據得出一個假設係
15:40
is the idea that polarized societies are far less tolerant of globalization.
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兩極化社會更加接受唔到全球化
15:46
It's the societies like Sweden in the past,
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好似以前嘅瑞典同宜家嘅加拿大咁
15:49
like Canada today,
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15:50
where there is a centrist politics,
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都有中間路線嘅政治
15:52
where right and left work together,
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左翼同右翼合作
15:54
that we encourage supportive attitudes towards globalization.
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鼓勵支持全球化
15:58
And what we see around the world today is a tragic polarization,
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但我哋今時今日見到嘅兩極化係悲慘嘅
16:02
a failure to have dialogue between the extremes in politics,
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政治極端兩邊嘅人冇辦法對話
16:05
and a gap in terms of that liberal center ground
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兩班人都失去咗中間自由嘅光譜
16:08
that can encourage communication and a shared understanding.
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而呢個中間地帶
卻可以鼓勵兩邊溝通同體諒對方
16:12
We might not achieve that today,
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我哋未必今日做到
16:13
but at the very least we have to call upon our politicians and our media
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但至少我哋要呼籲政客同傳媒
16:17
to drop a language of fear and be far more tolerant of one another.
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用詞唔好再係表達恐懼
而係更包容呢兩個極端
16:21
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
16:29
These ideas are very tentative,
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呢啲諗法都係初步
16:32
and that's in part because this needs to be an inclusive and shared project.
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咁係因為解決方案需要多方意見
16:38
I am still British.
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我仲係英國人
16:40
I am still European.
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我仲係歐洲人
16:43
I am still a global citizen.
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我仲係世界公民
16:47
For those of us who believe
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相信我哋身份並唔係互相排斥嘅我哋
16:49
that our identities are not mutually exclusive,
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16:53
we have to all work together
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我哋要走埋一齊
16:56
to ensure that globalization takes everyone with us
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確保全球化唔會抌低我哋任何一個
17:00
and doesn't leave people behind.
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17:02
Only then will we truly reconcile democracy and globalization.
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只有嗰陣
我哋先真正將民主同全球化調和
17:07
Thank you.
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多謝
17:09
(Applause)
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