Dan Dennett: Cute, sexy, sweet, funny

274,911 views ・ 2009-03-16

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Prevodilac: Jelena Nedjic Lektor: Ana Zivanovic-Nenadovic
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I’m going around the world giving talks about Darwin,
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Širom sveta držim predavanja o Darvinu,
00:15
and usually what I’m talking about
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i uglavnom objašnjavam
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is Darwin’s strange inversion of reasoning.
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čudno izvrtanje Darvinovog rezonovanja.
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Now that title, that phrase, comes from a critic, an early critic,
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Taj naslov, ta fraza potiče od kritičara, ranih kritičara,
00:25
and this is a passage that I just love, and would like to read for you.
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a ovo je pasus koji ja obožavam i sada ću vam ga pročitati.
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"In the theory with which we have to deal, Absolute Ignorance is the artificer;
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"U teoriji sa kojom treba da se nosimo, Apsolutno Neznanje je glavni tvorac,
00:34
so that we may enunciate as the fundamental principle of the whole system,
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tako da treba jasno da naglasimo osnovni princip čitavog sistema,
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that, in order to make a perfect and beautiful machine,
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a to je da preduslov za pravljenje savršene i lepe mašine
00:42
it is not requisite to know how to make it.
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nije u tome da znamo kako da je napravimo.
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This proposition will be found on careful examination to express,
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Putem pažljive analize dolazimo do toga da ovaj predlog iznosi
00:49
in condensed form, the essential purport of the Theory,
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u suštinskoj formi osnovnu pogrešku Teorije,
00:53
and to express in a few words all Mr. Darwin’s meaning;
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i ispoljava u nekoliko reči značenje gospodina Darvina,
00:57
who, by a strange inversion of reasoning,
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a on čudnim izokretanjem rezonovanja,
01:01
seems to think Absolute Ignorance fully qualified
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izgleda da smatra da je Apsolutno Neznanje potpuno kvalifikovano
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to take the place of Absolute Wisdom in the achievements of creative skill."
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da preuzme mesto Apsolutnoj Mudrosti u dostignućima kreativnih veština."
01:10
Exactly. Exactly. And it is a strange inversion.
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Tačno. Tačno. To jeste čudno izokretanje.
01:17
A creationist pamphlet has this wonderful page in it:
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Brošura kreacionista sadrži ovu divnu stranu:
01:21
"Test Two:
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"Test broj dva:
01:23
Do you know of any building that didn’t have a builder? Yes/No.
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da li znate za zgradu bez graditelja? Da/Ne.
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Do you know of any painting that didn’t have a painter? Yes/No.
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Da li znate za sliku koju niko nije naslikao? Da/Ne.
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Do you know of any car that didn’t have a maker? Yes/No.
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Da li znate za bilo koja kola koja nije inženjer napravio? Da/Ne.
01:34
If you answered 'Yes' for any of the above, give details."
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Ukoliko ste odgovorili sa "Da" na bilo koje od pitanja, pružite objašnjenje."
01:39
A-ha! I mean, it really is a strange inversion of reasoning.
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Aha! Zaista smatram da je ovo čudno izvrtanje logike.
01:45
You would have thought it stands to reason
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Pomislili biste da je razumno smatrati
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that design requires an intelligent designer.
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da stvaranje zahteva inteligentnog stvaraoca.
01:53
But Darwin shows that it’s just false.
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Ali Darvin nam pokazuje da je to prosto pogrešno.
01:55
Today, though, I’m going to talk about Darwin’s other strange inversion,
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Danas ću, doduše, pričati o drugom čudnom izvrtanju Darvinove teorije,
02:00
which is equally puzzling at first, but in some ways just as important.
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koje je na prvi pogled, jednako zagonetno, ali iz mnogo razloga jednako važno.
02:06
It stands to reason that we love chocolate cake because it is sweet.
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Podrazumeva se da volimo čokoladu zato što je slatka.
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Guys go for girls like this because they are sexy.
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Muškarcima se sviđaju ovakve devojke jer su seksi.
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We adore babies because they’re so cute.
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Obožavamo bebe jer su simpatične.
02:23
And, of course, we are amused by jokes because they are funny.
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I, naravno, šale nas zabavljaju jer su smešne.
02:32
This is all backwards. It is. And Darwin shows us why.
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To je sve postavljeno unatraške. Zaista. Darvin pokazuje i zašto.
02:39
Let’s start with sweet. Our sweet tooth is basically an evolved sugar detector,
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Počnimo sa slatkišima. Naša želja za slatkišima je složena forma detektora šećera;
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because sugar is high energy, and it’s just been wired up to the preferer,
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šećer sadrži mnogo energije i mi smo samo programirani da nam se to sviđa,
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to put it very crudely, and that’s why we like sugar.
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grubo rečeno, usled toga volimo šećer.
02:56
Honey is sweet because we like it, not "we like it because honey is sweet."
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Med je sladak jer nam je to ukusno, a ne "ukusan nam je jer je sladak."
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There’s nothing intrinsically sweet about honey.
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Ne postoji ništa što je samo po sebi slatko kod meda.
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If you looked at glucose molecules till you were blind,
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Ukoliko biste posmatrali molekule glukoze dok ne oslepite,
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you wouldn’t see why they tasted sweet.
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ne biste uvideli zašto imaju ukus slatkog.
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You have to look in our brains to understand why they’re sweet.
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Morate da analizirate naš mozak da biste shvatili zašto je to slatko.
03:21
So if you think first there was sweetness,
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Ako mislite da je prvo postojalo slatko,
03:23
and then we evolved to like sweetness,
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a da smo evoluirali nakon toga da nam se to sviđa,
03:25
you’ve got it backwards; that’s just wrong. It’s the other way round.
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pogrešno ste to shvatili, to je pogrešno. Dešava se upravo suprotno.
03:29
Sweetness was born with the wiring which evolved.
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Osećaj slatkog je rođen sa programom koji je evoluirao.
03:33
And there’s nothing intrinsically sexy about these young ladies.
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Ne postoji ništa kod ovih dama što je samo po sebi seksi.
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And it’s a good thing that there isn’t, because if there were,
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Dobro je što je tako, jer da nije,
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then Mother Nature would have a problem:
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majka priroda bi imala problem:
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How on earth do you get chimps to mate?
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Kako biste naterali šimpanze da se razmnožavaju?
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Now you might think, ah, there’s a solution: hallucinations.
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Možda ste pomislili, aha, rešenje je u halucinacijama.
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That would be one way of doing it, but there’s a quicker way.
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To jeste jedno od rešenja, ali postoji i bolje rešenje.
04:05
Just wire the chimps up to love that look,
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Samo programirajte šimpanze tako da im se takav izgled sviđa,
04:08
and apparently they do.
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i očigledno je da im se sviđa.
04:11
That’s all there is to it.
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To je sve.
04:16
Over six million years, we and the chimps evolved our different ways.
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Tokom šest miliona godina, mi i šimpanze smo evoluirali na različite načine.
04:20
We became bald-bodied, oddly enough;
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Mi smo postali ćosavi, što je čudno,
04:23
for one reason or another, they didn’t.
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iz ovog ili onog razloga, a one nisu.
04:27
If we hadn’t, then probably this would be the height of sexiness.
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Da nismo, onda bi ovo verovatno bio uzor seksipila.
04:39
Our sweet tooth is an evolved and instinctual preference for high-energy food.
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Naša želja za slatkišima je usavršena i instinktivna želja za hranom visokog sadržaja energije.
04:44
It wasn’t designed for chocolate cake.
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Nije izumljena zbog čokoladne torte.
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Chocolate cake is a supernormal stimulus.
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Čokoladna torta je supernormalni stimulus.
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The term is owed to Niko Tinbergen,
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Ovaj termin je iskovao Niko Tinbergen,
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who did his famous experiments with gulls,
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koji je uradio čuvene eksperimente na galebovima
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where he found that that orange spot on the gull’s beak --
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i otkrio je da ukoliko uveličate
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if he made a bigger, oranger spot
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narandžastu tačku na kljunu, učinite je upadljivijom
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the gull chicks would peck at it even harder.
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ženke galebova će čak snažnije kljucati po njoj.
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It was a hyperstimulus for them, and they loved it.
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To je prosto njima bio hiperstimulus, i obožavali su to.
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What we see with, say, chocolate cake
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Ono što možemo uočiti kod recimo torte od čokolade
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is it’s a supernormal stimulus to tweak our design wiring.
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je da je to supernormalni stimulus koji poboljšava naš ugrađeni program.
05:14
And there are lots of supernormal stimuli; chocolate cake is one.
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Postoji mnogo supernormalnih stimulusa, torta od čokolade je jedan.
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There's lots of supernormal stimuli for sexiness.
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Seksipil se odlikuje mnogim supernormalnim stimulusima.
05:20
And there's even supernormal stimuli for cuteness. Here’s a pretty good example.
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Čak i kod simpatičnih fenomena postoje supernormalni stimulusi. Evo jednog dobrog primera.
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It’s important that we love babies, and that we not be put off by, say, messy diapers.
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Važno je da volimo bebe i da nas, na primer, ne odbijaju prljave pelene.
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So babies have to attract our affection and our nurturing, and they do.
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Bebe moraju da privuku našu pristrasnost i brigu, i to i čine.
05:37
And, by the way, a recent study shows that mothers
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Uzgred, skorašnja studija je pokazala da majke
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prefer the smell of the dirty diapers of their own baby.
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više vole miris prljavih pelena svojih beba.
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So nature works on many levels here.
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Tako da priroda ovde deluje na mnogo nivoa.
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But now, if babies didn’t look the way they do -- if babies looked like this,
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Sada, kada bebe ne bi izgledale kako izgledaju, i ukoliko bi izgledale ovako,
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that’s what we would find adorable, that’s what we would find --
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onda bi nama to bilo simpatično, to je ono što bismo smatrali -
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we would think, oh my goodness, do I ever want to hug that.
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misllili bismo, oh, Bože, da li želim ikada da zagrlim ovo.
06:02
This is the strange inversion.
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To je čudno izvrtanje.
06:04
Well now, finally what about funny. My answer is, it’s the same story, the same story.
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Sada, napokon o smešnom. Moj odgovor je u stvari ista priča.
06:11
This is the hard one, the one that isn’t obvious. That’s why I leave it to the end.
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To je teško, to je nešto što nije očigledno. Zato sam to ostavio za kraj.
06:15
And I won’t be able to say too much about it.
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Neću moći da kažem previše o tome.
06:17
But you have to think evolutionarily, you have to think, what hard job that has to be done --
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Morate to da posmatrate sa evolutivnog aspekta, morate da razmilite o teškom
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it’s dirty work, somebody’s got to do it --
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poslu koji treba uraditi, to je prljav posao, neko mora da ga završi,
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is so important to give us such a powerful, inbuilt reward for it when we succeed.
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zato je važno da doživimo moćnu, urođenu nagradu za to kada uspemo.
06:34
Now, I think we've found the answer -- I and a few of my colleagues.
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Mislim da smo došli do odgovora, ja i nekoliko mojih kolega.
06:38
It’s a neural system that’s wired up to reward the brain
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To je neuralni sistem koji je uspostavljen kako bi nagradio mozak
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for doing a grubby clerical job.
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za obavljanje prljavog, činovničkog posla.
06:48
Our bumper sticker for this view is
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Naš slogan za ovaj pogled je
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that this is the joy of debugging.
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da je to radost koju donosi otklanjanje grešaka.
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Now I’m not going to have time to spell it all out,
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Nemam vremena da vam sve to predstavim,
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but I’ll just say that only some kinds of debugging get the reward.
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ali mogu vam reći da se samo određeni tipovi otklanjanja grešaka nagrađuju.
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And what we’re doing is we’re using humor as a sort of neuroscientific probe
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Mi prosto koristimo humor kao neuro-naučni test tako što
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by switching humor on and off, by turning the knob on a joke --
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uključujemo i isključujemo humor, tako što pritiskamo dugme na šali,
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now it’s not funny ... oh, now it’s funnier ...
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sada nije zabavno, oh, sada je zabavnije,
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now we’ll turn a little bit more ... now it’s not funny --
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sada ćemo podesiti to još malo..sada nije zabavno,
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in this way, we can actually learn something
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i radeći to mi ustvari možemo naučiti nešto
07:21
about the architecture of the brain,
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o samoj arhitekturi mozga,
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the functional architecture of the brain.
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o funkcionalnoj arhitekturi mozga.
07:25
Matthew Hurley is the first author of this. We call it the Hurley Model.
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Autor ovoga je Metju Harli. To nazivamo Harlijevim modelom.
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He’s a computer scientist, Reginald Adams a psychologist, and there I am,
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On je informatičar, Redžinald Adams je psiholog, i ono sam ja,
07:34
and we’re putting this together into a book.
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i pišemo knjigu o svemu tome.
07:36
Thank you very much.
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Mnogo vam hvala.
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