Dan Dennett: Cute, sexy, sweet, funny

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翻译人员: Cheng Chang 校对人员: Wang Qian
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I’m going around the world giving talks about Darwin,
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我经常在世界各地做关于达尔文的演讲,
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and usually what I’m talking about
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一般我都要讲到的是
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is Darwin’s strange inversion of reasoning.
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达尔文奇怪的“反向逻辑”。
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Now that title, that phrase, comes from a critic, an early critic,
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这个“头衔”,这个名词,来自于一个批评,一个早先的批评。
00:25
and this is a passage that I just love, and would like to read for you.
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我喜欢这篇文章,很乐意给大家念一下。
00:29
"In the theory with which we have to deal, Absolute Ignorance is the artificer;
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这个我们要探讨的理论之中,“全然无知”变成了创造者;
00:34
so that we may enunciate as the fundamental principle of the whole system,
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那么让我们清楚阐明这个理论体系的根本原则,
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that, in order to make a perfect and beautiful machine,
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那就是,在制造一个完美的机器之前,
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it is not requisite to know how to make it.
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完全没有必要知道如何来制造它。
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This proposition will be found on careful examination to express,
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这种说法被建立在详尽的研究之上
00:49
in condensed form, the essential purport of the Theory,
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来传达这个理论的要义,
00:53
and to express in a few words all Mr. Darwin’s meaning;
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也传达了达尔文先生的全部意思;
00:57
who, by a strange inversion of reasoning,
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他用这样一种奇怪的“反向逻辑”
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seems to think Absolute Ignorance fully qualified
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似乎认为“绝对的无知”完全有资格取代
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to take the place of Absolute Wisdom in the achievements of creative skill."
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“绝对的智慧”来完成需要创造性技能的工作。
01:10
Exactly. Exactly. And it is a strange inversion.
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可不是嘛!可不是嘛!这真是一个奇怪的“反向”。
01:17
A creationist pamphlet has this wonderful page in it:
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一位上帝论者的小册子上有这样一页非常精彩:
01:21
"Test Two:
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测验二
01:23
Do you know of any building that didn’t have a builder? Yes/No.
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你知道任何一栋建筑没有它的建设者?有,没有
01:27
Do you know of any painting that didn’t have a painter? Yes/No.
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你知道有任何一副画没有它的绘画者?有,没有
01:30
Do you know of any car that didn’t have a maker? Yes/No.
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你知道有任何一辆小汽车没有它的制造者么?有,没有
01:34
If you answered 'Yes' for any of the above, give details."
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如果你在任一问题中答“有”,给出其细节。
01:39
A-ha! I mean, it really is a strange inversion of reasoning.
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啊哈!我说,这可真是一个奇怪的“反向逻辑”啊!
01:45
You would have thought it stands to reason
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你可能觉得这种说法站得住脚:
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that design requires an intelligent designer.
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那就是但凡设计都需要一个智慧的设计者。
01:53
But Darwin shows that it’s just false.
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可达尔文证明,那是错误的。
01:55
Today, though, I’m going to talk about Darwin’s other strange inversion,
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但是今天,我要谈的是达尔文的另一个奇怪的“反向逻辑”。
02:00
which is equally puzzling at first, but in some ways just as important.
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它乍眼看来也是一样莫名其妙,但从某种程度上说,它也是一样重要。
02:06
It stands to reason that we love chocolate cake because it is sweet.
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说我们喜欢巧克力是因为它很甜,似乎说得过去。
02:13
Guys go for girls like this because they are sexy.
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小伙子们迷这样的姑娘,因为她们很性感。
02:19
We adore babies because they’re so cute.
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我们宠爱这样的婴儿,因为他们是那么可爱。
02:23
And, of course, we are amused by jokes because they are funny.
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当然,我们还喜欢笑话,因为它们搞笑。
02:32
This is all backwards. It is. And Darwin shows us why.
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但这都是倒因为果的逻辑。达尔文会告诉我们为什么。
02:39
Let’s start with sweet. Our sweet tooth is basically an evolved sugar detector,
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从甜开始吧,我们馋甜的,其实是一种进化出来的糖探测器。
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because sugar is high energy, and it’s just been wired up to the preferer,
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因为糖是高热量的,所以它就被大脑强化为我们的一项偏爱。
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to put it very crudely, and that’s why we like sugar.
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简单来讲,这就是为什么我们喜欢糖。
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Honey is sweet because we like it, not "we like it because honey is sweet."
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蜜是甜的,因为我们喜欢它,而不是“我们喜欢蜜,因为它是甜的。”
03:03
There’s nothing intrinsically sweet about honey.
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蜂蜜内在没有任何所谓的甜。
03:08
If you looked at glucose molecules till you were blind,
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哪怕我们盯着葡萄糖,看到双眼失明
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you wouldn’t see why they tasted sweet.
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我们也没法看出来为什么它们是甜的。
03:15
You have to look in our brains to understand why they’re sweet.
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你必须要从我们大脑中来理解为什么它们甜。
03:21
So if you think first there was sweetness,
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所以如果你认为首先有了甜,
03:23
and then we evolved to like sweetness,
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然后我们进化成了喜欢甜,
03:25
you’ve got it backwards; that’s just wrong. It’s the other way round.
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那你就搞反了:这是错的。应该是倒过来。
03:29
Sweetness was born with the wiring which evolved.
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甜的出现是和大脑里那个沟回的进化一起发生的。
03:33
And there’s nothing intrinsically sexy about these young ladies.
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这些年轻小姐们也没有什么内在的性感。
03:37
And it’s a good thing that there isn’t, because if there were,
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而且没有是件好事,因为假如真的有了
03:42
then Mother Nature would have a problem:
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我们的自然之母就要有麻烦了:
03:46
How on earth do you get chimps to mate?
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我可怎么让这些猩猩们交配啊?
03:53
Now you might think, ah, there’s a solution: hallucinations.
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现在你也许在想。啊哈!我有一招:性幻想!-_-!
04:01
That would be one way of doing it, but there’s a quicker way.
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这也许是个办法,但还有一招更快。
04:05
Just wire the chimps up to love that look,
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就是让猩猩们的大脑产生个沟回,爱上那个样子。
04:08
and apparently they do.
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而且显然,它们爱上了。
04:11
That’s all there is to it.
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就是这么回事。
04:16
Over six million years, we and the chimps evolved our different ways.
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过了六百万年,我们和猩猩进化成了不同的样子。
04:20
We became bald-bodied, oddly enough;
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我们变得身躯无毛,有够奇怪的;
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for one reason or another, they didn’t.
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而由于某种原因,它们没有
04:27
If we hadn’t, then probably this would be the height of sexiness.
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如果我们也没有的话,那么可能这个就变成了绝顶性感了。
04:39
Our sweet tooth is an evolved and instinctual preference for high-energy food.
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我们馋甜东西是一种进化出来的内在偏爱,偏爱高热量食物。
04:44
It wasn’t designed for chocolate cake.
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那不是针对巧克力蛋糕而设计的。
04:47
Chocolate cake is a supernormal stimulus.
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巧克力蛋糕是一个超常刺激。
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The term is owed to Niko Tinbergen,
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这个词是尼古拉斯·丁伯根(Niko Tinbergen)提出来的。
04:52
who did his famous experiments with gulls,
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他做了他出名的海鸥实验
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where he found that that orange spot on the gull’s beak --
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他发现了海鸥喙上的橘点——
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if he made a bigger, oranger spot
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如果他把这个点放大,染得更橘
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the gull chicks would peck at it even harder.
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那么小海鸥就会更猛烈地啄它。
05:02
It was a hyperstimulus for them, and they loved it.
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这对它们来说是兴奋的刺激,它们狂爱这个。
05:05
What we see with, say, chocolate cake
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对于我们而言,比方说,巧克力蛋糕
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is it’s a supernormal stimulus to tweak our design wiring.
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就是一个超常刺激,它扭曲了我们脑内沟回的本意。
05:14
And there are lots of supernormal stimuli; chocolate cake is one.
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有很多很多的超常刺激,巧克力蛋糕是一个。
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There's lots of supernormal stimuli for sexiness.
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有很多对于性感的超常刺激。
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And there's even supernormal stimuli for cuteness. Here’s a pretty good example.
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甚至有对于可爱的超常刺激,这就有一个很好的例子。
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It’s important that we love babies, and that we not be put off by, say, messy diapers.
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喜欢婴儿对于我们来讲很重要,这样我们就不会因为某些麻烦——比如说脏尿布——而嫌弃他们。
05:31
So babies have to attract our affection and our nurturing, and they do.
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因此婴儿必须要吸引我们的爱意和抚养,他们确实做到了。
05:37
And, by the way, a recent study shows that mothers
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另外顺便说一句,最近一个研究表明
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prefer the smell of the dirty diapers of their own baby.
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妈妈们都更喜欢闻自己孩子的脏尿布。
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So nature works on many levels here.
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可见自然在不同的层次上起着作用。
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But now, if babies didn’t look the way they do -- if babies looked like this,
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但现在,如果婴儿们不再像他们现在的样子,而是看上去这样。
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that’s what we would find adorable, that’s what we would find --
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这就是我们觉得可爱的样子,
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we would think, oh my goodness, do I ever want to hug that.
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这就会使我们想“哦,天哪!我可真想抱抱啊!”
06:02
This is the strange inversion.
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这是一个奇怪的“反向逻辑”
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Well now, finally what about funny. My answer is, it’s the same story, the same story.
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那么现在,最后关于可笑。我的答案是,一样的故事,是个一样的故事。
06:11
This is the hard one, the one that isn’t obvious. That’s why I leave it to the end.
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这个比较难懂,不太显而易见,所以我把它留到最后。
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And I won’t be able to say too much about it.
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而且我今天也不会讲太多这个。
06:17
But you have to think evolutionarily, you have to think, what hard job that has to be done --
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你必须从进化的角度来想,你得想,什么困难的活必须被完成——
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it’s dirty work, somebody’s got to do it --
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这是一个脏活,而且必须有人来完成它——
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is so important to give us such a powerful, inbuilt reward for it when we succeed.
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以至于当我们完成的时候,给我们一个强烈的内在奖励那么重要。
06:34
Now, I think we've found the answer -- I and a few of my colleagues.
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现在,我想我们有答案了,我和几位我的同事。
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It’s a neural system that’s wired up to reward the brain
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这是一种为了奖励大脑完成了某项
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for doing a grubby clerical job.
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肮脏的事务性工作而产生的神经反应体系。
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Our bumper sticker for this view is
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我们关于这个观点的招牌说法就是
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that this is the joy of debugging.
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这是排除故障的快感。
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Now I’m not going to have time to spell it all out,
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现在我没时间来把这个展开讲了,
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but I’ll just say that only some kinds of debugging get the reward.
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但我得说,只有某几种“排除故障”能够获得这种快感。
07:02
And what we’re doing is we’re using humor as a sort of neuroscientific probe
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我们现在所做的,就是把幽默感作为一种神经科学的探针,
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by switching humor on and off, by turning the knob on a joke --
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通过幽默的开关,通过调整笑话——
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now it’s not funny ... oh, now it’s funnier ...
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“这个不搞笑了……哦,现在这个有意思……”
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now we’ll turn a little bit more ... now it’s not funny --
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“现在我们调整一点……现在又不搞笑了”——
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in this way, we can actually learn something
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通过这种方式,我们事实上能学到
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about the architecture of the brain,
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一些关于大脑构造的知识,
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the functional architecture of the brain.
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关于大脑的功能性构造。
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Matthew Hurley is the first author of this. We call it the Hurley Model.
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马修·赫尔利(Matthew Hurley)是这本书的第一作者,我们称这个为赫尔利模型(Hurley Model)。
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He’s a computer scientist, Reginald Adams a psychologist, and there I am,
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他是个计算机科学家,雷金纳德·亚当斯(Reginald Adams)一位心理学家,然后就是我。
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and we’re putting this together into a book.
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我们正在把这些写进一本书里。
07:36
Thank you very much.
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谢谢大家!
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