How to talk (and listen) to transgender people | Jackson Bird

Prevodilac: Dragana Savanovic Lektor: Ivana Krivokuća

Hi, I'm Jack,

Zdravo, ja sam Džek

and I'm transgender.

i transrodna sam osoba.

Let me take a guess at some of thoughts

Mogu da pretpostavim

šta vam trenutno prolazi kroz glavu.

that might be running through your head right now.

"Transgender?

Transrodna?

Wait, does that mean that they're actually a man or actually a woman?"

„Čekaj, je l' to znači da je u stvari žensko ili muško?“

"I wonder if he's had the surgery yet ...

„Da li je već obavio operaciju...

Oh, now I'm looking at his crotch.

O ne, sad mu gledam u međunožje.

Look to the right, that's a safe place to look."

Gledaj u stranu, to je najsigurnije.“

"Yes, I knew it! No real man has hips like those."

„To, znao sam! Pravi muškarci nemaju takve kukove.“

"My friend's daughter is transgender --

„Ćerka mog prijatelja je transrodna -

I wonder if they know each other."

pitam se da li se poznaju.“

"Oh my gosh, he is so brave.

„Bože, kako je samo hrabar.

I would totally support his right to use the men's bathroom.

Totalno ga podržavam u tome da koristi muški wc.

Wait, but how does he use the bathroom?

Čekaj, kako on koristi wc?

How does he have sex?"

Kako ima seksualne odnose?“

OK, OK, let's stop those hypothetical questions

Okej, prestanimo s ovim hipotetičkim pitanjima

before we get too close for my comfort.

pre nego što preteramo.

I mean, don't get me wrong,

Nemojte pogrešno da me shvatite,

I did come here today to share my personal experiences being transgender,

jesam danas ovde da podelim svoje iskustvo o transrodnosti,

but I did not wake up this morning wanting to tell an entire audience

ali nisam se jutros probudio želeći da publici pričam

about my sex life.

o svom seksualnom životu.

Of course, that's the problem with being trans, right?

Naravno, to je problem s trans osobama, zar ne?

People are pretty much always wondering how we have sex

Ljudi se uglavnom pitaju kako upražnjavamo seks

and what kind of equipment we're working with below the belt.

i koju opremu koristimo dole ispod pojasa.

Being trans is awkward.

Biti transrodan je neprijatno.

And not just because the gender I was assigned at birth

I ne samo jer se pol sa kojim sam rođen

mismatches the one I really am.

ne poklapa sa onim što zaista jesam.

Being trans is awkward

Biti transrodan je neprijatno

because everyone else gets awkward when they're around me.

jer svima postane neprijatno kada su u mojoj blizini.

People who support me and all other trans people wholeheartedly

Oni koji iskreno podržavaju mene i ostale trans osobe

are often so scared to say to wrong thing,

često strahuju da ne kažu nešto pogrešno,

so embarrassed to not know what they think they should,

stide se jer ne znaju ono što misle da bi trebalo

that they never ask.

toliko da nikad ne pitaju.

Part of what was so nerve-racking about coming out as transgender

Jedna od stvari koja izluđuje kada se izjašnjavate kao transrodni

was knowing that people wouldn't know what I meant.

je to što znate da ljudi ne znaju šta to znači.

And when someone comes out as gay,

Kad se neko izjasni kao gej,

people know what that means,

ljudi znaju šta to znači,

but when you come out as trans,

ali kad se izjasnite kao transrodni,

you have to face the misconceptions

morate da se suočite sa zabludama

that will color other people's impressions of you

koje će uticati na to kako vas drugi vide,

even after you've educated them ...

čak i nakon što im objasnite...

And you will have to educate them.

A moraćete da im objašnjavate.

When I came out,

Kad sam se ja razotkrio,

I wrote at 10-page encyclopedic document

napisao sam rad na 10 strana

with a zip-file attachment of music and videos

sa prikačenim zip fajlom sa muzikom i videima

that I sent to every single person I came out to.

koje sam poslao svakome kome sam se razotkrio.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

And I kept it in my email signature for months afterwards,

I čuvao ga u potpisu imejla mesecima nakon toga,

because you also don't ever stop coming out.

jer nikad ne prestajete da se razotkrivate.

I came out to the accountant helping me with my taxes

Ja sam se razotkrio računovođi koji mi je radio porez

i putnom obezbeđenju jer nisu znali ko treba da me opipa,

and the TSA agents who didn't know which one of them should pat me down,

the man or the woman.

muškarac ili žena.

I mean, I just came out to everyone watching this.

U stvari, upravo sam se razotkrio svima koji ovo gledaju.

When I came out to my dad,

Kada sam se razotkrio tati,

to my great relief, he was totally cool with me being trans,

na moje veliko olakšanje, njemu je to bilo skroz u redu,

but as soon as I started talking about physically transitioning,

ali čim sam počeo da pričam o fizičkim promenama,

he freaked.

on se uspaničio.

And I quickly realized it was because he, like so many other people,

Shvatio sam da on, kao i mnogi drugi ljudi,

think that physical transition means just one thing:

misli da fizička promena znači samo jedno:

the surgery.

operaciju.

Now, listen,

Pa, vidite,

if there were one magical surgery

ako bi postojala jedna magična operacija

that could turn me into a tall, muscular,

koja bi me preko noći pretvorila

u visokog, mišićavog i društveno prihvatljivog muškarca,

societally perfect image of a man overnight,

I'd sign up in a heartbeat.

odmah bih se prijavio.

Unfortunately, it isn't that simple.

Nažalost, nije tako prosto.

There are dozens of different gender-affirming surgeries

Postoji mnogo operacija promene pola,

from chest surgeries to bottom surgeries

od operacija grudi i operacija donjih delova,

to facial feminization and man-sculpting.

do feminizacije lica i maskulinizacije tela.

Many trans people will only ever undergo one procedure in their lifetime, if that.

Mnoge trans osobe će se operisati jednom u životu, ako se uopšte operišu.

Maybe because they don't personally feel the need

Možda jer prosto ne osećaju potrebu,

ali i zato što su operacije skupe,

but also because they're expensive,

and health insurance is only beginning to cover them.

a osiguranje tek počinje da ih pokriva.

Instead, the first step for a trans person seeking physical transition

Prvi korak u fizičkoj tranziciji

is usually hormone replacement therapy.

je obično hormonska terapija.

Od hormona imam dublji glas i pokoju dlačicu na vratu,

Hormones are why I have a deeper voice and some sparse whiskers on my neck

and a giant pimple on my chin.

kao i ogromnu bubuljicu na bradi.

Basically, they put you through a second puberty ...

U suštini, prolazim kroz drugi pubertet...

it's a blast.

sjajno se provodim.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

Now, because our transitions are slower and steadier

Pošto su naše promene sporije i postepenije

than historic misconceptions can lead people to believe,

nego što istorijske zablude navode ljude da pretpostave,

there can be some confusion

može doći do zabune kada osobu treba nazivati njenim novim imenom i zamenicom.

about when to call someone by their new name and pronouns.

There's no distinct point in physical transition

Ne postoji konkretan momenat u fizičkoj promeni

at which a trans person becomes their true gender.

kada trans osoba dobija svoj istinski pol.

As soon as they tell you their new name and pronouns,

Čim vam kažu vaše novo ime i zamenicu,

that's when you start using them.

tada počnete da ih koristite.

It can be difficult to make the change.

Može vam biti teško da se naviknete.

You might slip up here and there;

Ponekad ćete i pogrešiti;

I've slipped up myself with other trans people.

i meni se desilo par puta sa drugim trans osobama.

But I always think to myself,

Ali uvek sebi kažem,

if we can change from calling Puff Daddy to P. Diddy,

ako možemo Paf Dedija zvati Pi Didi,

and if we apologize profusely when we've used the wrong gender pronoun

i ako se duboko izvinjavamo

kada za nečiju mačku koristimo pogrešnu zamenicu -

for someone's pet cat --

mislim da se možemo isto toliko potruditi i oko ljudi u svom životu.

I mean, I think we can make the same effort

for the real humans in our lives.

Now, there is no topic that makes other people more awkward about trans people

Za ljude nema neprijatnije teme u vezi sa trans osobama

than public bathrooms.

od javnih toaleta.

Eh, toaleti -

Ah, the bathrooms --

the latest political flash point for LGBT opponents.

najnovija tačka ključanja za protivnike LGBT zajednice.

Here's a fun fact about bathrooms:

Evo zanimljivosti o toaletima:

more US congressmen have been convicted of assaulting someone in a public bathroom

više je američkih kongresmena osuđeno za napad u javnom toaletu

than trans people have been.

nego transrodnih osoba.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

The truth is we trans people are so much more scared of you than you are of us.

U stvari, mi, trans osobe, se više plašimo vas nego vi nas.

It's a huge point of discussion in trans communities

Važna je tema rasprava u trans zajednicama

about which bathroom to start using and when,

koji toalet koristiti i kada,

so we don't attract attention that could lead to violence against us.

tako da ne privučemo pažnju koja bi mogla izazvati nasilje nad nama.

I personally started using the men's room

Ja lično sam počeo da koristim muški toalet

when I started getting confused and frightened looks in the women's room,

kada su u ženskom počeli zbunjeno i uplašeno da me gledaju,

iako sam bio preplašen odlaskom u muški toalet.

even though I was petrified to start going into the men's room.

Često se odlučimo da uopšte i ne odemo u toalet.

And often we opt to just not go to the bathroom at all.

A 2015 national survey of trans people

Anketa iz 2015. godine o trans osobama

found that eight percent of us had had a urinary tract infection

je pokazala da je osam procenata nas imalo urinarnu infekciju

in the past year

u prethodnoj godini

as a result of avoiding restrooms.

jer smo izbegavali odlazak u toalet.

These bathroom bills aren't protecting anyone.

Ovi zakoni o toaletima ne štite nikoga.

All they're doing

Jedino postižu da,

is ensuring that when trans people are assaulted in bathrooms,

kada trans osobu napadnu u toaletu,

the law will no longer be on our side when we report it.

zakon ne bude na našoj strani kada to prijavimo.

Being trans means a daily onslaught of these misconceptions.

Trans osobe se svakodnevno bore sa ovakvim zabludama.

And I have it pretty easy.

Meni je prilično lako.

I am a white, able-bodied guy

Ja sam zdrav belac

sitting nearly at the peak of privilege mountain.

i visoko sam na lestvici privilegovanih.

For non-binary people,

Za rodno nebinarne osobe,

for trans women,

za trans žene,

for trans people of color,

obojene trans osobe,

it is so much harder.

mnogo je teže.

So I've given you a starter pack of trans knowledge

Eto, pružio sam vam osnovna znanja o transrodnim osobama

that I hope will lead to more learning on your own.

koja će vas, nadam se, podstaći da i sami učite.

Talk to trans people.

Razgovarajte sa trans osobama.

Listen to us.

Saslušajte nas.

Amplify our voices.

Učinite da se naš glas jače čuje.

Take the heat off of us and educate those around you

Olakšajte nam i podučite ljude oko sebe

so we don't have to every time.

tako da ne moramo uvek mi.

Maybe someday, when I say,

Možda će jednog dana, kada kažem:

"Hi, I'm Jack, and I'm transgender,"

„Zdravo, ja sam Džek i transrodna sam osoba,“

the only response I'll get is,

jedini odgovor biti:

"Hi, nice to meet you."

„Zdravo, drago mi je.“

Thank you.

Hvala vam.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)