How to talk (and listen) to transgender people | Jackson Bird

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翻译人员: 杰 杨 校对人员: Cong Liu
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Hi, I'm Jack,
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嗨,我是杰克,
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and I'm transgender.
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我是变性人。
00:17
Let me take a guess at some of thoughts
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让我来猜猜你们
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that might be running through your head right now.
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现在脑海中可能有的一些想法。
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"Transgender?
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“变性?
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Wait, does that mean that they're actually a man or actually a woman?"
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等等,这是不是意味着他们原本是一个男人 或其实是一个女人?”
00:25
"I wonder if he's had the surgery yet ...
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“我想知道他有没有做过手术…
00:28
Oh, now I'm looking at his crotch.
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哦,我现在就在盯着他的裤裆看。
00:30
Look to the right, that's a safe place to look."
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最好把视线转向右边 看那边就不会这么尴尬了。”
“是嘛,我就知道! 男人怎么可能有这样的屁股。”
00:32
"Yes, I knew it! No real man has hips like those."
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00:35
"My friend's daughter is transgender --
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“我朋友的女儿也是变性人——
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I wonder if they know each other."
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我想他们说不定认识。”
00:39
"Oh my gosh, he is so brave.
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“天哪,他好勇敢。
00:41
I would totally support his right to use the men's bathroom.
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我会充分尊重他使用男厕所的权利。
00:44
Wait, but how does he use the bathroom?
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等等,他要怎么上厕所呢?
00:46
How does he have sex?"
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他要怎么做爱?”
好了,好了,让我们在感到不适之前
00:48
OK, OK, let's stop those hypothetical questions
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00:51
before we get too close for my comfort.
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不要再问这些假设出的问题了。
00:52
I mean, don't get me wrong,
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不要误解我,我的意思是
00:54
I did come here today to share my personal experiences being transgender,
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我今天到这里的确是来分享 我作为变性人的个人经历的,
00:57
but I did not wake up this morning wanting to tell an entire audience
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但我今早醒来时并没有打算
01:01
about my sex life.
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把我的性生活公之于众。
01:03
Of course, that's the problem with being trans, right?
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虽然那的确是变性后的一个问题,是吧?
01:06
People are pretty much always wondering how we have sex
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人们总是想知道我们是如何做爱的,
01:08
and what kind of equipment we're working with below the belt.
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以及这时我们所使用的工具。
01:12
Being trans is awkward.
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变性人的生活充满尴尬。
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And not just because the gender I was assigned at birth
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这不仅仅是因为出生时
01:17
mismatches the one I really am.
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我就有了和自己内心不相符的性别
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Being trans is awkward
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变性人的生活充满尴尬
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because everyone else gets awkward when they're around me.
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因为我身边的人会因为待在我旁边而感到尴尬
01:24
People who support me and all other trans people wholeheartedly
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全心全意帮助我和其他变性人的人们
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are often so scared to say to wrong thing,
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常常感到害怕,怕自己可能会说错话
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so embarrassed to not know what they think they should,
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或是感到尴尬,因为有些事变性人虽未提及
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that they never ask.
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他们觉得也应该考虑到
01:35
Part of what was so nerve-racking about coming out as transgender
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作为变性人,出柜时最伤脑筋的问题之一
01:38
was knowing that people wouldn't know what I meant.
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就是身边的人不明白“变性人”意味着什么
01:42
And when someone comes out as gay,
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比如有人出柜,表明自己的同志身份
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people know what that means,
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大家是明白这是什么意思的
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but when you come out as trans,
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但当你以变性人的身份出柜时
01:46
you have to face the misconceptions
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你就不得不面对一些误会
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that will color other people's impressions of you
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即便你讲明白了这一切是怎么回事
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even after you've educated them ...
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那些误会还是会影响人们对你的印象
01:53
And you will have to educate them.
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而你则不得不继续给他们灌输概念
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When I came out,
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我出柜的时候
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I wrote at 10-page encyclopedic document
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我写了一份10页长百科全书式的文档
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with a zip-file attachment of music and videos
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并附上了几首歌和几个视频的压缩包附件
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that I sent to every single person I came out to.
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这些东西,我给每一个我出柜的人都发了一份
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(Laughter)
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【笑声】
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And I kept it in my email signature for months afterwards,
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它们在接下来的几个月 还一直保留在我电邮的签名中
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because you also don't ever stop coming out.
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因为向别人出柜也不是个一蹴而就的事
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I came out to the accountant helping me with my taxes
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我还向帮我处理税务的会计
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and the TSA agents who didn't know which one of them should pat me down,
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和运管局的职员出柜 后者对我搜身检查的时候
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the man or the woman.
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不知该派一名男人还是女人来
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I mean, I just came out to everyone watching this.
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而现在我也向每一个观看这个视频的人出柜
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When I came out to my dad,
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当我向我父亲出柜的时候
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to my great relief, he was totally cool with me being trans,
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他接受了我是个变性人的事实 这让我松了一口气
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but as soon as I started talking about physically transitioning,
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但当我谈起我身体上的转变时
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he freaked.
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他吓坏了
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And I quickly realized it was because he, like so many other people,
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而我也立即意识到,这是因为 我的父亲和其他很多人
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think that physical transition means just one thing:
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都以为身体上的转变只意味着——
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the surgery.
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整形手术
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Now, listen,
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那么现在,听好了
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if there were one magical surgery
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如果真有这样一个神奇的手术
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that could turn me into a tall, muscular,
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能让我一夜间变成一个又高又壮
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societally perfect image of a man overnight,
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符合大众审美的型男
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I'd sign up in a heartbeat.
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我会心动,也会行动
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Unfortunately, it isn't that simple.
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不巧的是,这一切并没有这么简单
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There are dozens of different gender-affirming surgeries
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有各式各样的性别认定手术
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from chest surgeries to bottom surgeries
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如胸部和臀部手术
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to facial feminization and man-sculpting.
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又如面部女性化手术和塑形手术
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Many trans people will only ever undergo one procedure in their lifetime, if that.
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很多变性人一生也只做过这些手术中的一项
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Maybe because they don't personally feel the need
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可能是因为他们觉得自己没有那种需要
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but also because they're expensive,
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亦或是手术本身的价格实在太高
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and health insurance is only beginning to cover them.
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而健康保险远不足以供应这样的开销
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Instead, the first step for a trans person seeking physical transition
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因此,变性人群做的第一个手术
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is usually hormone replacement therapy.
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往往是性激素替代手术
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Hormones are why I have a deeper voice and some sparse whiskers on my neck
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雄性激素让我得以拥有低沉的声音、 脖子上稀疏的胡子
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and a giant pimple on my chin.
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和脸上这么大的青春痘
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Basically, they put you through a second puberty ...
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这基本上就是让你再度品尝青春期的滋味——
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it's a blast.
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一场灾难
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(Laughter)
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【笑声】
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Now, because our transitions are slower and steadier
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与曾经人们的误解不同的是
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than historic misconceptions can lead people to believe,
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如今,转性别的过程缓慢而稳定
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there can be some confusion
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这让人们在称呼一个变性人的名字和绰号的时候
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about when to call someone by their new name and pronouns.
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容易存在困惑
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There's no distinct point in physical transition
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在一个变性的过程中,并不存在
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at which a trans person becomes their true gender.
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一个人真正转成另一种性别的时间点
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As soon as they tell you their new name and pronouns,
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但当他们告诉你他们的新名和新绰号后
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that's when you start using them.
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你在就该这么称呼他们了
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It can be difficult to make the change.
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这样的改变的确可能比较难以做到
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You might slip up here and there;
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你仍可能会不断地叫错
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I've slipped up myself with other trans people.
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我就曾经叫错其他变性人的名字
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But I always think to myself,
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但我常常这样想
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if we can change from calling Puff Daddy to P. Diddy,
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若是我们能改叫帕夫·达迪为P·蒂迪
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and if we apologize profusely when we've used the wrong gender pronoun
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并且在叫错他们宠物猫的名字后
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for someone's pet cat --
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诚挚地向他们道歉——
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I mean, I think we can make the same effort
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我的意思是,我认为我们可以
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for the real humans in our lives.
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为生活中活生生的人们共同做出努力
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Now, there is no topic that makes other people more awkward about trans people
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如今,让大家对变性人最为尴尬、自愧的
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than public bathrooms.
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就是公共厕所
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Ah, the bathrooms --
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唉,公共厕所——
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the latest political flash point for LGBT opponents.
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它是反LGBT人群在政治上最新的暴击点
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Here's a fun fact about bathrooms:
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这儿有个关于公厕的有趣的事实
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more US congressmen have been convicted of assaulting someone in a public bathroom
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国会议员中被指在公厕殴打他人的人数
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than trans people have been.
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都比有这样做的变性人多
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(Laughter)
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【笑声】
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The truth is we trans people are so much more scared of you than you are of us.
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事实就是相较于你们对变性人的恐惧 我们更怕你们
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It's a huge point of discussion in trans communities
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变性人群社区中有这样激烈的讨论
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about which bathroom to start using and when,
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变性人该使用哪个厕所,何时起要这么做
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so we don't attract attention that could lead to violence against us.
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才能让我们少招人耳目一些 以免发生反对我们自己的暴力行为
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I personally started using the men's room
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自从我在女厕所
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when I started getting confused and frightened looks in the women's room,
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受到迷惑而恐惧的目光的时候 我便开始用男厕所了
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even though I was petrified to start going into the men's room.
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尽管刚开始上男厕的时候我还有些害怕
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And often we opt to just not go to the bathroom at all.
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而通常的情况下我们干脆就不去公厕了
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A 2015 national survey of trans people
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2015年一项全国变性人调查
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found that eight percent of us had had a urinary tract infection
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显示去年有百分之八的变性人
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in the past year
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患有尿路感染
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as a result of avoiding restrooms.
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而其起因就是有有避免使用公共厕所
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These bathroom bills aren't protecting anyone.
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现有对公厕的法案没有保障任何人的权利
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All they're doing
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其存在的意义
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is ensuring that when trans people are assaulted in bathrooms,
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仅仅是保证在变性人在厕所里受到攻击时
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the law will no longer be on our side when we report it.
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我们将其上报也不会得到法律的支持
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Being trans means a daily onslaught of these misconceptions.
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变性人每天都要受到这些误解的打击
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And I have it pretty easy.
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而我所面对的已经算是轻松的了
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I am a white, able-bodied guy
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因为我是一个白人,一个身体健全的男人
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sitting nearly at the peak of privilege mountain.
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可以说我享有最多的权利和保障
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For non-binary people,
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对于双性人
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for trans women,
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变性女人
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for trans people of color,
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有色变性人
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it is so much harder.
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这一切会更加艰难
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So I've given you a starter pack of trans knowledge
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所以我给你们介绍了一些跨性别的入门知识
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that I hope will lead to more learning on your own.
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我希望它能让你们自己去了解更多
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Talk to trans people.
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和变性人交谈
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Listen to us.
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倾听我们
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Amplify our voices.
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也让更多的人听到我们的声音
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Take the heat off of us and educate those around you
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不要让我们这样引人注目 而是让你们身边的人了解我们
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so we don't have to every time.
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这样我们或许就可以卸下心里的重担
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Maybe someday, when I say,
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也许在将来的某一天,当我跟别人打招呼
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"Hi, I'm Jack, and I'm transgender,"
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“嗨,我是杰克,我是变性人,”
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the only response I'll get is,
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我收到的回应将只会是
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"Hi, nice to meet you."
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“嗨,很高兴见到你。”
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Thank you.
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谢谢
06:19
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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