How to talk (and listen) to transgender people | Jackson Bird

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Prevoditelj: Ivana Varga Recezent: Sanda L
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Hi, I'm Jack,
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Bok svima, ja sam Jack
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and I'm transgender.
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i ja sam transrodna osoba.
00:17
Let me take a guess at some of thoughts
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Pokušat ću pogoditi što bi vam moglo
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that might be running through your head right now.
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prolaziti kroz glavu čim ste to čuli.
00:21
"Transgender?
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"Transrodna?
00:22
Wait, does that mean that they're actually a man or actually a woman?"
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Čekaj, znači li to da je zapravo muškarac ili žena?"
00:25
"I wonder if he's had the surgery yet ...
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"Hmm, pitam se je li već imao operaciju...
00:28
Oh, now I'm looking at his crotch.
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Ups, sad mu zurim u međunožje.
00:30
Look to the right, that's a safe place to look."
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Gledaj udesno, sigurnije je.
"Ha! Znao sam! Muškarci ne mogu imati takve bokove!"
00:32
"Yes, I knew it! No real man has hips like those."
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00:35
"My friend's daughter is transgender --
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"Kćerka moje prijateljice je transrodna,
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I wonder if they know each other."
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možda se poznaju."
00:39
"Oh my gosh, he is so brave.
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"O moj Bože, pa on je tako hrabar.
00:41
I would totally support his right to use the men's bathroom.
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Potpuno podupirem njegovo pravo da koristi muški WC.
00:44
Wait, but how does he use the bathroom?
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Čekaj, ali kako on obavlja nuždu?
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How does he have sex?"
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Kako se seksa?"
00:48
OK, OK, let's stop those hypothetical questions
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Dobro, prestanimo s ovim hipotetskim pitanjima
prije nego što postanu previše intimna za mene.
00:51
before we get too close for my comfort.
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00:52
I mean, don't get me wrong,
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Nemojte me krivo shvatiti.
00:54
I did come here today to share my personal experiences being transgender,
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Namjera mi je ovdje govoriti o svojim transrodnim iskustvima,
00:57
but I did not wake up this morning wanting to tell an entire audience
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ali to ne znači da sam se probudio ujutro s namjerom da cijeloj publici
01:01
about my sex life.
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pričam o svom ljubavnom životu.
01:03
Of course, that's the problem with being trans, right?
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Naravno, to i jest problem s transrodnim osobama, zar ne?
01:06
People are pretty much always wondering how we have sex
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Ljude pogotovo uvijek zanima kako se seksamo
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and what kind of equipment we're working with below the belt.
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i čime raspolažemo u gaćama.
01:12
Being trans is awkward.
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Biti transrodan je čudno.
01:15
And not just because the gender I was assigned at birth
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Ne samo zato što rod koji mi je određen pri rođenju
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mismatches the one I really am.
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ne odgovara onom koji jesam.
01:19
Being trans is awkward
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Biti transrodan je čudno
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because everyone else gets awkward when they're around me.
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jer svi ostali postanu čudni kad sam s njima.
01:24
People who support me and all other trans people wholeheartedly
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Ljudi koji podupiru mene i transrodne osobe općenito,
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are often so scared to say to wrong thing,
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prečesto su preplašeni da će reći nešto krivo,
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so embarrassed to not know what they think they should,
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ili ih je sram što ne znaju ono što misle da bi morali,
01:33
that they never ask.
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da nikad ni ne pitaju.
01:35
Part of what was so nerve-racking about coming out as transgender
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Ono što toliko kida živce kad se izjasnite kao transrodna osoba
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was knowing that people wouldn't know what I meant.
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jest kad znate da ljudi neće shvatiti što to podrazumijeva.
01:42
And when someone comes out as gay,
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Kad se netko izjasni kao gay,
01:43
people know what that means,
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ljudi znaju što pod tim misli,
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but when you come out as trans,
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ali kad se netko izjasni transrodnim,
01:46
you have to face the misconceptions
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suočen je s krivim shvaćanjima
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that will color other people's impressions of you
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koja će odrediti dojmove drugih ljudi o vama.
01:51
even after you've educated them ...
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Čak i nakon što ih malo educirate o tome,
01:53
And you will have to educate them.
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a morat ćete svakako.
01:55
When I came out,
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Kad sam se izjasnio,
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I wrote at 10-page encyclopedic document
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napisao sam enciklopedijski dokument od 10 stranica
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with a zip-file attachment of music and videos
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s datotekom u privitku, punom pjesmama i videa
02:01
that I sent to every single person I came out to.
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i zatim to poslao svima kojima sam se izjasnio.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
02:04
And I kept it in my email signature for months afterwards,
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Držao sam to u potpisu svoje e-pošte mjesecima nakon toga,
02:07
because you also don't ever stop coming out.
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jer izjašnjavanju, zapravo, nema kraja.
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I came out to the accountant helping me with my taxes
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Izjasnio sam se računovođi koji mi je pomagao s porezima
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and the TSA agents who didn't know which one of them should pat me down,
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i djelatnicima sigurnosti u zračnoj luci koji nisu znali tko će me pretresti,
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the man or the woman.
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muškarac ili žena.
02:19
I mean, I just came out to everyone watching this.
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Eto, sad sam se izjasnio i svima vama ovdje.
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When I came out to my dad,
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Kad sam se izjasnio ocu,
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to my great relief, he was totally cool with me being trans,
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odahnuo sam što me prihvatio kao transrodnu osobu,
02:28
but as soon as I started talking about physically transitioning,
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ali čim sam počeo govoriti o fizičkoj preobrazbi,
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he freaked.
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uplašio se.
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And I quickly realized it was because he, like so many other people,
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Ubrzo sam shvatio da je to zbog toga što on, kao i mnogo drugih ljudi,
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think that physical transition means just one thing:
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misli da fizička preobrazba može značiti samo jednu stvar:
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the surgery.
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operaciju.
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Now, listen,
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Dakle,
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if there were one magical surgery
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kad bi postojao magični zahvat
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that could turn me into a tall, muscular,
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koji bi me pretvorio u sliku visokog, mišićavog,
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societally perfect image of a man overnight,
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društveno prihvatljivog, savršenog muškarca preko noći,
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I'd sign up in a heartbeat.
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smjesta bih pristao na to.
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Unfortunately, it isn't that simple.
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Nažalost, nije to tako jednostavno.
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There are dozens of different gender-affirming surgeries
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Postoji niz operacija za promjenu spola,
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from chest surgeries to bottom surgeries
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od operacija poprsja do promjene spola,
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to facial feminization and man-sculpting.
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pa sve do konstrukcije ženstvenosti ili muškosti u licu.
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Many trans people will only ever undergo one procedure in their lifetime, if that.
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Mnoge transrodne osobe podvrgnut će se jednoj operaciji u svom životu, ako i to.
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Maybe because they don't personally feel the need
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Možda zato što ne osjećaju potrebu,
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but also because they're expensive,
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a u isto vrijeme su i poprilično skupe.
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and health insurance is only beginning to cover them.
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Zdravstveno osiguranje ih tek od nedavno počinje pokrivati.
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Instead, the first step for a trans person seeking physical transition
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Umjesto toga, prvi korak u fizičkoj preobrazbi transrodne osobe
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is usually hormone replacement therapy.
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obično je hormonska nadomjesna terapija.
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Hormones are why I have a deeper voice and some sparse whiskers on my neck
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Hormoni su razlog mom dubljem glasu, nekoliko dlačica na vratu
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and a giant pimple on my chin.
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i prištu na bradi.
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Basically, they put you through a second puberty ...
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U biti, prolazite kroz drugi pubertet.
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it's a blast.
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Baš je divno.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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Now, because our transitions are slower and steadier
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Budući su naše preobrazbe sporije i postojanije
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than historic misconceptions can lead people to believe,
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nego na što vas navode povijesno kriva shvaćanja,
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there can be some confusion
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može doći do zbunjenosti
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about when to call someone by their new name and pronouns.
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kod obraćanja transrodnim osobama njihovim novim imenom i rodom.
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There's no distinct point in physical transition
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Ne postoji neka prekretnica u preobrazbi
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at which a trans person becomes their true gender.
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kada transrodna osoba postane svoj rod.
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As soon as they tell you their new name and pronouns,
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Čim vam kažu svoje novo ime i rod,
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that's when you start using them.
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tada ih počnete upotrebljavati.
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It can be difficult to make the change.
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Znam da je teško priviknuti se.
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You might slip up here and there;
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Možete tu i tamo pogriješiti,
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I've slipped up myself with other trans people.
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i meni se desilo s drugim trasrodnim osobama.
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But I always think to myself,
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Ali uvijek si mislim,
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if we can change from calling Puff Daddy to P. Diddy,
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ako možemo prijeći od zvanja Puff Daddyja na P. Diddyja
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and if we apologize profusely when we've used the wrong gender pronoun
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te ako se previše ispričavamo što smo upotrijebili krivi rod
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for someone's pet cat --
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za nečiju mačku,
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I mean, I think we can make the same effort
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onda se možemo potruditi isto učiniti
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for the real humans in our lives.
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i za osobe u našim životima.
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Now, there is no topic that makes other people more awkward about trans people
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E sad, tema koja kod ljudi izaziva najviše neugode u vezi s transrodnim osobama
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than public bathrooms.
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su javni WC-i.
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Ah, the bathrooms --
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Ajme, ti WC-i...
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the latest political flash point for LGBT opponents.
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najnovija točka erupcije za protivnike LGBT zajednice.
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Here's a fun fact about bathrooms:
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Jedna zanimljiva činjenica o tim WC-ima:
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more US congressmen have been convicted of assaulting someone in a public bathroom
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više je kongresnika SAD-a osuđeno za zlostavljanje nekog u javnom WC-u
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than trans people have been.
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nego transrodnih osoba.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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The truth is we trans people are so much more scared of you than you are of us.
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Stvarnost je da se mi transrodni više bojimo vas nego vi nas.
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It's a huge point of discussion in trans communities
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Velika točka rasprave u transrodnim zajednicama
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about which bathroom to start using and when,
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je upravo koji WC početi koristiti i od kada,
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so we don't attract attention that could lead to violence against us.
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tako da ne privlačimo pozornost koja bi mogla navući nasilje protiv nas.
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I personally started using the men's room
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Osobno sam počeo koristiti muški WC
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when I started getting confused and frightened looks in the women's room,
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kada sam počeo dobivati poglede straha i zbunjenosti od žena u ženskom WC-u.
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even though I was petrified to start going into the men's room.
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Iako sam bio prestravljen odlaskom u muški WC.
Često se jednostavno odlučimo strpiti i ne ići na WC uopće.
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And often we opt to just not go to the bathroom at all.
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05:03
A 2015 national survey of trans people
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Državna anketa iz 2015. među transrodnim osobama
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found that eight percent of us had had a urinary tract infection
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otkrila je da je 8% nas imalo infekciju urinarnog trakta
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in the past year
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tijekom godine,
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as a result of avoiding restrooms.
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zbog izbjegavanja javnih WC-a.
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These bathroom bills aren't protecting anyone.
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Ovi zakoni o javnim WC-ima ne štite nikog.
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All they're doing
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Sve što oni čine
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is ensuring that when trans people are assaulted in bathrooms,
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je da osiguraju da, kad transrodne osobe budu napadnute u WC-ima,
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the law will no longer be on our side when we report it.
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zakon više ne bude na našoj strani kada prijavimo napad.
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Being trans means a daily onslaught of these misconceptions.
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Biti transrodna osoba znači svakodnevno suočavanje s navalom krivih shvaćanja.
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And I have it pretty easy.
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A meni je još i dobro.
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I am a white, able-bodied guy
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Bijel sam i sposoban momak
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sitting nearly at the peak of privilege mountain.
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pa sjedim na samom vrhu planine privilegiranih.
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For non-binary people,
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Za nebinarne osobe,
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for trans women,
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za transrodne žene,
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for trans people of color,
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za transrodne ljude drugih rasa,
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it is so much harder.
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mnogo je teže.
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So I've given you a starter pack of trans knowledge
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Dakle, dao sam vam osnovni paket znanja o transrodnim osobama,
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that I hope will lead to more learning on your own.
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za koji se nadam da će vas potaknuti da dalje istražujete sami.
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Talk to trans people.
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Razgovarajte s transrodnim osobama.
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Listen to us.
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Slušajte nas.
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Amplify our voices.
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Pojačajte naše glasove.
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Take the heat off of us and educate those around you
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Smanjite paljbu protiv nas i educirajte one oko vas,
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so we don't have to every time.
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tako da to ne moramo mi svaki put.
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Maybe someday, when I say,
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Možda će jednog dana, kad kažem:
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"Hi, I'm Jack, and I'm transgender,"
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"Bok, ja sam Jack, i ja sam transrodan",
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the only response I'll get is,
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jedini odgovor biti:
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"Hi, nice to meet you."
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"Bok, drago mi je".
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Thank you.
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Hvala vam na pozornosti.
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(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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