Bonnie Bassler: The secret, social lives of bacteria

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Prevoditelj: Tibor Vrancic Recezent: Hrvoje Vinter
Bakterije su najstariji živući organizmi na Zemlji.
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Bacteria are the oldest living organisms on the earth.
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They've been here for billions of years,
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Ovdje su milijardama godina.
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and what they are are single-celled microscopic organisms.
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i u stvari oni su jednostanični mikroskopski organizmi.
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So they're one cell
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Dakle, oni su u stvari jedna stanica i imaju posebno svojstvo
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and they have this special property that they only have one piece of DNA.
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da imaju samo jedan komad DNA.
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So they have very few genes and genetic information
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Imaju vrlo malo gena,
i gensku informaciju kako bi kodirali sva svojstva koja izvršavaju.
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to encode all of the traits that they carry out.
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00:38
And the way bacteria make a living is that they consume nutrients
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A način na koji bakterije preživljavaju
je taj da crpe hranjive tvari iz okoliša,
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from the environment,
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they grow to twice their size,
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narastu do dvostruke svoje veličine, presijeku se napola po sredini,
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they cut themselves down in the middle,
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i od jedne stanice nastanu dvije, i tako dalje, i tako dalje.
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and one cell becomes two, and so on and so on.
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They just grow and divide and grow and divide -- so a kind of boring life,
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One samo rastu i dijele se, rastu i dijele se -- dakle, poprilično dosadan život,
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except that what I would argue is that you have an amazing interaction
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no pored toga bih vam željela dokazati, da vi imate
čudesnu interakciju s ovim stvorenjima.
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with these critters.
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00:58
I know you guys think of yourself as humans,
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Znam da o sebi mislite kao o ljudskim bićima, a ovo je otprilike što ja mislim o vama.
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and this is sort of how I think of you.
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Ovaj čovjek bi trebao predstavljati
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This man is supposed to represent a generic human being,
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općenito ljudsko biće,
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and all of the circles in that man are all the cells that make up your body.
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i svi krugovi u ovom čovjeku predstavljaju sve stanice koje tvore vaše tijelo.
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There's about a trillion human cells that make each one of us who we are
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Postoji oko trilijun ljudskih stanica od kojih se sastoji svatko od nas
tko smo i što smo sve u stanju činiti,
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and able to do all the things that we do.
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međutim, vi posjedujete 10 trilijuna bakterijskih stanica
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But you have 10 trillion bacterial cells in you or on you
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u vama i na vama u svakom trenutku vašega života.
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at any moment in your life.
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So, 10 times more bacterial cells than human cells on a human being.
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Znači, 10 puta više bakterijskih stanica
nego ljudskih stanica po ljudskom biću.
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And, of course, it's the DNA that counts,
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I naravno, DNA su te koje se broje,
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so here's all the A, T, Gs and Cs that make up your genetic code
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dakle, ovdje su svi A, T, G-ovi i C-ovi
koji sačinjavaju vaš genetički kod, i daju vam sve vaše dražesne osobine.
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and give you all your charming characteristics.
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Imate oko 30.000 gena.
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You have about 30,000 genes.
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Well, it turns out you have 100 times more bacterial genes
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Po tome ispada da imate 100 puta više bakterijskih gena
koje imaju neku ulogu u ili na vama tijekom cijelog vašeg života.
01:38
playing a role in you or on you all of your life.
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01:41
So at the best, you're 10 percent human; more likely, about one percent human,
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U najboljem slučaju, vi ste 10 posto čovjek,
no vjerojatnije je da ste jedan posto čovjek,
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depending on which of these metrics you like.
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ovisno o tome koja vam se metrika više sviđa.
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I know you think of yourself as human beings,
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Znam da o sebi mislite kao o ljudskim bićima,
no, ja o vama mislim kao o 90 ili 99 postotnim bakterijama.
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but I think of you as 90 or 99 percent bacterial.
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01:54
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
01:55
And these bacteria are not passive riders.
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Ove bakterije nisu pasivni putnici,
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These are incredibly important; they keep us alive.
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i one su nevjerojatno važne, one nas održavaju živima.
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They cover us in an invisible body armor
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Prekrivaju nas nevidljivim oklopom
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that keeps environmental insults out so that we stay healthy.
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koji nas štiti od vanjskih ozljeda
te tako ostajemo zdravi.
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They digest our food, they make our vitamins,
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Oni probavljaju našu hranu, oni tvore naše vitamine,
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they actually educate your immune system to keep bad microbes out.
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oni u stvari podučavaju naš imunosni sustav
kako ne dozvoliti lošim mikrobima pristup.
Znači, oni čine sve te čudesne stvari
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So they do all these amazing things
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koje nam pomažu i koje su neophodne kako bismo bili živi,
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that help us and are vital for keeping us alive,
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02:20
and they never get any press for that.
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i zbog toga nikad nisu u bilo kakvoj stisci.
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But they get a lot of press because they do a lot of terrible things as well.
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Međutim, mnogo se piše o njima, jer čine mnoge
užasne stvari.
Prema tome, postoje mnoge vrste bakterija na Zemlji
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So there's all kinds of bacteria on the earth
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02:29
that have no business being in you or on you at any time,
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koje ne bi trebale biti u ili na vama nikada,
a ako jesu, čine vas nevjerojatno bolesnim.
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and if they are, they make you incredibly sick.
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02:36
And so the question for my lab
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I tako, pitanje za moj laboratorij je želite li misliti samo
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is whether you want to think about all the good things that bacteria do
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o dobrim stvarima koje bakterije čine, ili samo o lošim koje one čine.
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or all the bad things that bacteria do.
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02:43
The question we had is: How could they do anything at all?
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Pitanje koje se nameće je kako one uopće mogu bilo što raditi?
Mislim, one su nevjerojatno malene,
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I mean, they're incredibly small.
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You have to have a microscope to see one.
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neophodan vam je mikroskop kako biste jednu od njih vidjeli.
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They live this sort of boring life where they grow and divide,
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Žive taj dosadan život u kojem samo rastu i dijele se,
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and they've always been considered to be these asocial, reclusive organisms.
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i uvijek ih se smatralo za nedruštvene, samotnjačke organizme.
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And so it seemed to us that they're just too small
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Tako, izgledalo nam je da su isuviše mali a da bi imali utjecaj
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to have an impact on the environment
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na okolinu
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if they simply act as individuals.
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ako jednostavno djeluju kao jedinke.
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So we wanted to think if there couldn't be a different way that bacteria live.
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I željeli smo razmisliti ne bi li mogao postojati drugačiji
način kako bakterije žive.
Ključ rješenja za ovo nam je pružila jedna druga morska bakterija,
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And the clue to this came from another marine bacterium,
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and it's a bacterium called "Vibrio fischeri."
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a ona se zove Vibrio fischeri.
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What you're looking at on this slide is just a person from my lab
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Ono što vidite na ovom dijapozitivu je jedna osoba iz moga laboratorija
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holding a flask of a liquid culture of a bacterium,
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kako drži tikvicu sa tekućom kulturom bakterija,
bezopasnih i prelijepih bakterija koje potječu iz oceana,
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a harmless, beautiful bacterium that comes from the ocean,
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imena Vibrio fischeri.
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named Vibrio fischeri.
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And this bacterium has the special property that it makes light,
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Ove bakterije imaju naročito svojstvo da stvaraju svijetlost,
i tako stvaraju bioluminiscenciju,
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so it makes bioluminescence,
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like fireflies make light.
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isto kao što krijesnice stvaraju svijetlost.
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We're not doing anything to the cells here,
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Ovdje nismo ništa radili sa stanicama.
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we just took the picture by turning the lights off in the room,
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Samo smo snimili fotografiju prethodno ugasivši svjetlost u prostoriji,
i evo što se vidi.
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and this is what we see.
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03:39
And what's actually interesting to us was not that the bacteria made light
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Ono što nam je zapravo bilo zanimljivo
nije bilo to što bakterije svijetle,
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but when the bacteria made light.
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nego kada one to čine.
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What we noticed is when the bacteria were alone,
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Zamijetili smo da kada su bakterije bile same,
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so when they were in dilute suspension,
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znači kad su u bile u razrijeđenom rastvoru, nisu stvarale svjetlost.
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they made no light.
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Međutim, kad su narasle do određenog broja stanica
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But when they grew to a certain cell number,
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sve bakterije su upalile svjetla istovremeno.
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all the bacteria turned on light simultaneously.
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So the question that we had is:
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Pitanje koje se nametnulo je kako mogu bakterije, ti primitivni organizmi,
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How can bacteria, these primitive organisms,
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razlikovati vrijeme kad su same,
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tell the difference from times when they're alone
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od vremena kad su u nekoj zajednici,
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and times when they're in a community,
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i zatim sve odreda učiniti nešto zajedno.
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and then all do something together?
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Ono što smo zaključili je da je način kako to one čine putem međusobnog razgovora,
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And what we figured out is that the way they do that is they talk to each other,
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a razgovaraju jezikom kemije.
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and they talk with a chemical language.
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Ovo bi trebala biti stanica bakterije.
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So this is now supposed to be my bacterial cell.
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Kada je sama ona ne stvara svjetlost.
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When it's alone, it doesn't make any light.
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But what it does do is to make and secrete small molecules
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No, ono što čini je da stvara i izlučuje malene molekule
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that you can think of like hormones,
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koje možete zamisliti kao hormone,
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and these are the red triangles.
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a to su ovi crveni trokutovi, i kada je bakterija sama
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And when the bacteria are alone, the molecules just float away,
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molekule jednostavno odplutaju i onda nema svjetlosti.
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and so, no light.
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But when the bacteria grow and double
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Međutim, kada bakterija naraste i umnoži se
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and they're all participating in making these molecules,
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i kada sve one sudjeluju u stvaranju ovih molekula,
molekula -- izvanstanična količina te molekule
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the molecule, the extracellular amount of that molecule,
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increases in proportion to cell number.
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se povećava proporcionalno broju stanica.
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And when the molecule hits a certain amount
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A onda kada molekule dosegnu određeni broj
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that tells the bacteria how many neighbors there are,
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to govori bakteriji koliko susjeda ima,
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they recognize that molecule
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one prepoznaju tu molekulu
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and all of the bacteria turn on light in synchrony.
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i sve bakterije sinkronizirano upale svjelost.
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And so that's how bioluminescence works --
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Tako funkcionira bioluminiscencija --
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they're talking with these chemical words.
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one ragovaraju pomoću kemijskih riječi.
Razlog zašto Vibrio fischeri to čine potječe iz biologije.
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The reason Vibrio fischeri is doing that comes from the biology --
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again, another plug for the animals in the ocean.
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I opet, još jedna utičnica za životinje u oceanu,
Vibrio fischeri živi u ovoj lignji.
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Vibrio fischeri lives in this squid.
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What you're looking at is the Hawaiian bobtail squid.
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Ono što gledate je Havajska kratkorepa lignja,
i izokrenuta je na leđa,
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It's been turned on its back,
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and what I hope you can see are these two glowing lobes.
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i ono što se nadam da vidite jesu ova dva krilca koja svijetle
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These house the Vibrio fischeri cells.
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a koja nastanjuju stanice Vibrio fischeri,
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They live in there, at high cell number.
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one žive tamo, kada je broj stanica velik
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That molecule is there, and they're making light.
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ta molekula je tamo, i one stvaraju svjetlost.
Razlog zašto je lignja voljna podnositi ovakve smicalice
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And the reason the squid is willing to put up with these shenanigans
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je što želi svjetlost.
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is because it wants that light.
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Ovakva simbioza funkcionira
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The way that this symbiosis works
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jer ova mala lignja živi uza samu obalu Havaja,
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is that this little squid lives just off the coast of Hawaii,
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just in sort of shallow knee-deep water.
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baš u plitkoj vodi koja doseže do koljena.
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And the squid is nocturnal,
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Lignja je noćna životinja, te je preko dana
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so during the day, it buries itself in the sand and sleeps.
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zakopana u pijesak i spava,
a onda noću mora izaći van da bi lovila.
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But then at night, it has to come out to hunt.
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So on bright nights
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Za vrijeme vedrih noći kada ima dosta svjetlosti zvijezda ili je mjesečina
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when there's lots of starlight or moonlight,
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ta svjetlost može prodrijeti kroz dubinu vode
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that light can penetrate the depth of the water the squid lives in,
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u kojoj lignja živi, zato što je to samo nekoliko stopa vode.
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since it's just in those couple feet of water.
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Ono što je lignja razvila je neka vrsta preklopnika
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What the squid has developed is a shutter that can open and close
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kojega otvara i zatvara iznad tog specijaliziranog svjetlosnog organa s bakterijama.
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over the specialized light organ housing the bacteria.
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Zatim ima detektore na leđima
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And then it has detectors on its back
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tako da može osjetiti koliko mjesečine ili svjetlosti zvijezda pada na njena leđa.
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so it can sense how much starlight or moonlight is hitting its back.
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06:04
And it opens and closes the shutter
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Onda ona otvara ili zatvara preklopnik
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so the amount of light coming out of the bottom,
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tako da količina svjetlosti koja dolazi sa dna --
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which is made by the bacterium,
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a koju stvaraju bakterije --
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exactly matches how much light hits the squid's back,
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točno odgovara količini svjetlosti koja udara o leđa lignje,
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so the squid doesn't make a shadow.
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na taj način lignja ne stvara sjenu.
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So it actually uses the light from the bacteria
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U stvari ona koristi svjetlost bakterija
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to counter-illuminate itself in an antipredation device,
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za kontra-osvjetljenje sebe, kao uređaj za zaštitu od predatora
tako, grabežljivci ne mogu vidjeti njenu sjenu,
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so predators can't see its shadow,
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procijeniti njenu putanju i pojesti je.
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calculate its trajectory and eat it.
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Ovo nalikuje na oceanske nevidljive bombardere.
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So this is like the stealth bomber of the ocean.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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But then if you think about it, this squid has this terrible problem,
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Onda kad bolje razmislite o ovome, lignja ima ovaj strašan problem
zato što ima ovu umiruću, zgusnutu kulturu bakterija
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because it's got this dying, thick culture of bacteria,
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and it can't sustain that.
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i ne može ih održavati.
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And so what happens is, every morning when the sun comes up,
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I onda što se dešava, svako jutro kada sunce izlazi
lignja odlazi na spavanje, ukopavavajući se u pijesak,
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the squid goes back to sleep, it buries itself in the sand,
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ona ima pumpu koja je uklopljena u njen svakodnevni ritam,
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and it's got a pump that's attached to its circadian rhythm.
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i kada sunce izađe ona ispumpava nekih 95 posto bakterija.
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And when the sun comes up, it pumps out, like, 95 percent of the bacteria.
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So now the bacteria are dilute,
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Sada su bakterije razrijeđene, ona mala hormonska molekula je nestala,
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that little hormone molecule is gone, so they're not making light.
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tako da one ne stvaraju svjetlost --
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But, of course, the squid doesn't care, it's asleep in the sand.
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no naravno lignja za to ne mari. Ona spava u pijesku.
I kako dan odmiče bakterije se množe,
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And as the day goes by, the bacteria double,
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oslobađaju molekulu, i svjetlost nastaje
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they release the molecule, and then light comes on at night,
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noću, točno onda kada lignji treba.
07:02
exactly when the squid wants it.
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So first, we figured out how this bacterium does this,
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Prvo smo shvatili kako ove bakterije to rade,
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but then we brought the tools of molecular biology to this
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no zatim smo uključili u ovo biološke alate
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to figure out, really, what's the mechanism.
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kako bismo shvatili stvarni mehanizam.
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And what we found -- so this is now supposed to be my bacterial cell --
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I što smo otkrili -- znači ovo bi trebala biti, ponovno, moja stanica bakterije --
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is that Vibrio fischeri has a protein.
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je da Vibrio fischeri posjeduje protein --
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That's the red box --
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to je ovaj crveni kvadratić -- to je enzim koji stvara
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it's an enzyme that makes that little hormone molecule,
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onu malu molekulu hormona -- crveni trokut.
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the red triangle.
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And then as the cells grow,
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I onda kako stanice rastu, sve one otpuštaju tu molekulu
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they're all releasing that molecule into the environment,
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u okolinu, tako da tamo ima mnogo molekula.
07:28
so there's lots of molecule there.
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Bakterija također ima receptor na svojoj staničnoj površini
07:30
And the bacteria also have a receptor on their cell surface
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that fits like a lock and key with that molecule.
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koji pristaje kao brava i ključ toj molekuli.
07:36
These are just like the receptors on the surfaces of your cells.
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Ovi su receptori isti kao i na površini vaših stanica.
Kada se broj molekula poveća do određenog iznosa --
07:40
So when the molecule increases to a certain amount,
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which says something about the number of cells,
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što govori ponešto o broju stanica --
07:44
it locks down into that receptor
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on se zaključava unutar toga receptora
07:46
and information comes into the cells
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te u stanicu dolazi informacija
koja govori stanici da uključi
07:49
that tells the cells to turn on this collective behavior of making light.
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kolektivno ponašanje za stvaranje svjetlosti.
07:53
Why this is interesting is because in the past decade,
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Ovo je zanimljivo jer smo u prošlom desetljeću
07:56
we have found that this is not just some anomaly
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otkrili da ovo nije samo neka anomalija
07:58
of this ridiculous, glow-in-the-dark bacterium that lives in the ocean --
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ove smiješne, u mraku svjetleće bakterije koja živi u oceanu --
sve bakterije imaju sustav sličan ovomu.
08:02
all bacteria have systems like this.
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08:04
So now what we understand is that all bacteria can talk to each other.
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Dakle, shvatili smo da sve bakterije mogu međusobno govoriti.
08:07
They make chemical words, they recognize those words,
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Oni stvaraju kemijske riječi, one raspoznaju te riječi,
08:10
and they turn on group behaviors
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i one uključuju skupna ponašanja
08:12
that are only successful when all of the cells participate in unison.
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koja su uspješna jedino kada sve stanice sudjeluju zajednički.
08:17
So now we have a fancy name for this: we call it "quorum sensing."
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Imamo simpatično ime za ovo, zovemo to kvorumska svijest.
08:20
They vote with these chemical votes,
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Oni glasuju putem ovih kemijskih glasova,
08:22
the vote gets counted, and then everybody responds to the vote.
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glas se zbroji, i zatim svi odgovaraju na izglasano.
08:26
What's important for today's talk is we know there are hundreds of behaviors
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Što je važno za današnje izlaganje
je to da mi znamo da postoje stotine vrsta ponašanja
08:30
that bacteria carry out in these collective fashions.
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koja bakterije izvode na ovakav zajednički način.
08:33
But the one that's probably the most important to you is virulence.
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No ono što je vjerojatno za vas najznačajnije jest zaraznost.
To nije kao kad par bakterija dospije u vas
08:37
It's not like a couple bacteria get in you and start secreting some toxins --
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i počinju lučiti neke otrove --
08:41
you're enormous; that would have no effect on you, you're huge.
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vi ste ogromni, to ne bi imalo učinak na vas. Vi ste golemi.
Ono što one rade, a sada smo to shvatili,
08:45
But what they do, we now understand,
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is they get in you, they wait, they start growing,
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uđu u vas, čekaju, počinju se množiti,
08:50
they count themselves with these little molecules,
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prebrojavaju se pomoću ovih malenih molekula,
08:52
and they recognize when they have the right cell number
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i prepoznaju kada dosegnu pravi broj stanica
i kada bi sve bakterije započele svoj napad zajednički,
08:55
that if all of the bacteria launch their virulence attack together,
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they're going to be successful at overcoming an enormous host.
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tada bi bile uspješne u svladavanju ogromnog domaćina.
09:02
So bacteria always control pathogenicity with quorum sensing.
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Bakterije uvijek kontroliraju patogenost pomoću kvorumske svijesti.
Tako to funkcionira.
09:07
So that's how it works.
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Zatim smo, također željeli provjeriti što su ove molekule --
09:09
We also then went to look at what are these molecules.
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09:11
These were the red triangles on my slides before.
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to su bili crveni trokutovi na mom prethodnom dijapozitivu.
09:14
This is the Vibrio fischeri molecule.
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Ovo je molekula Vibrio fisheri.
09:16
This is the word that it talks with.
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Ovo je riječ pomoću koje govori.
09:18
And then we started to look at other bacteria,
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Dakle, zatim smo počeli gledati kod drugih bakterija,
09:20
and these are just a smattering of the molecules that we've discovered.
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i ovo je samo manji dio molekula koje smo otkrili.
Nadam se da možete vidjeti
09:24
What I hope you can see is that the molecules are related.
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da su molekule u povezane.
09:27
The left-hand part of the molecule is identical
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Dio s lijeve strane molekula je jednak
09:29
in every single species of bacteria.
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kod svake vrste bakterija.
09:32
But the right-hand part of the molecule is a little bit different
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Međutim, desna strana molekula je malo drugačija kod svake pojedine vrste.
09:35
in every single species.
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U biti, to je ono što daje
09:37
What that does is to confer exquisite species specificities to these languages.
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pojedinoj vrsti posebnost njihovih jezika.
09:42
So each molecule fits into its partner receptor
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Svaka molekula se uklapa s receptorom svoga partnera i nijednog više.
09:45
and no other.
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Znači, ovo su osobni, tajni razgovori.
09:47
So these are private, secret conversations.
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09:49
These conversations are for intraspecies communication.
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Ovi razgovori služe za komunikaciju među vrstama.
09:53
Each bacteria uses a particular molecule that's its language
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Svaka bakterija koristi posebnu molekulu koja je njen jezik,
09:57
that allows it to count its own siblings.
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i koja omogućuje prebrojavanje svoje subraće.
Kad smo stigli tako daleko mislili smo
10:02
Once we got that far,
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we thought we were starting to understand that bacteria have these social behaviors.
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da smo počinjali razumijevati da bakterije imaju takva društvena ponašanja.
No ono što smo zaista mislili je da većinu vremena
10:07
But what we were really thinking about is that most of the time,
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bakterije ne žive same, one žive u nevjerojatnim mješavinama,
10:10
bacteria don't live by themselves, they live in incredible mixtures,
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sa stotinama i tisućama drugih vrsta bakterija.
10:13
with hundreds or thousands of other species of bacteria.
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10:16
And that's depicted on this slide.
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I to je opisano na ovom dijapozitivu. Ovo je vaša koža.
10:18
This is your skin.
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10:19
So this is just a picture -- a micrograph of your skin.
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Ovo je samo slika -- mikrograf vaše kože.
10:22
Anywhere on your body, it looks pretty much like this.
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Posvuda na vašem tijelu, ovo izgleda približno isto,
i nadam se da možete vidjeti da tamo ima svih vrsta bakterija.
10:25
What I hope you can see
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is that there's all kinds of bacteria there.
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10:28
And so we started to think, if this really is about communication in bacteria,
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I tako, počeli smo razmišljati je li ovo stvarno do komunikacije kod bakterija,
10:32
and it's about counting your neighbors,
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i da se radi o prebrojavanju susjeda,
10:34
it's not enough to be able to only talk within your species.
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nije dovoljno moći razgovarati samo unutar svoje vrste.
Mora postojati način kako načiniti popis
10:38
There has to be a way to take a census
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ostalih bakterija unutar populacije.
10:40
of the rest of the bacteria in the population.
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Tada smo se vratili molekularnoj biologiji
10:43
So we went back to molecular biology
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i počeli proučavati različite bakterije,
10:45
and started studying different bacteria.
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i onda smo otkrili da
10:47
And what we've found now is that, in fact, bacteria are multilingual.
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su, zapravo, bakterije višejezične.
Sve one imaju sustav poseban za svoju vrstu --
10:51
They all have a species-specific system,
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imaju molekulu koja govori "ja".
10:54
they have a molecule that says "me."
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10:55
But then running in parallel to that is a second system
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No uz taj, postoji paralelni, drugi sustav
10:58
that we've discovered, that's generic.
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kojega smo otkrili, a on je opći.
11:00
So they have a second enzyme that makes a second signal,
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Dakle, imaju drugi enzim koji stvara drugi signal
11:03
and it has its own receptor,
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a on ima svoj vlastiti receptor,
11:05
and this molecule is the trade language of bacteria.
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i ova molekula je jezik razmjene između bakterija.
Koriste je sve vrste bakterija
11:09
It's used by all different bacteria,
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i to je jezik komunikacije među vrstama.
11:11
and it's the language of interspecies communication.
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11:14
What happens is that bacteria are able to count
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Ono što se događa je da su bakterije u stanju prebrojati
koliko ima "mene", a koliko "tebe".
11:18
how many of "me" and how many of "you."
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11:20
And they take that information inside,
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One unose informaciju,
11:22
and they decide what tasks to carry out
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i onda odlučuju koji zadatak poduzeti
u ovisnosti tko je u manjini, a tko u većini
11:25
depending on who's in the minority and who's in the majority
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11:28
of any given population.
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u bilo kojoj populaciji.
11:30
Then, again, we turned to chemistry,
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Onda, ponovno se okrećemo kemiji,
11:32
and we figured out what this generic molecule is --
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i shvatamo kakva je ova opća molekula --
11:35
that was the pink ovals on my last slide, this is it.
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što su bile ružičaste elipse na mom zadnjem dijapozitivu, to je ta.
11:38
It's a very small, five-carbon molecule.
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To je veoma mala petoerovalentna ugljikova molekula.
Važna stvar koju smo naučili
11:41
And what the important thing is that we learned
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is that every bacterium has exactly the same enzyme
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je da svaka bakterija ima potpuno isti enzim
11:46
and makes exactly the same molecule.
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i tvori potpuno istu molekulu.
11:48
So they're all using this molecule for interspecies communication.
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Znači, oni koriste ovu molekulu
za komunikaciju između vrsta.
11:52
This is the bacterial Esperanto.
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To je bakterijski Esperanto.
11:55
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
11:56
So once we got that far,
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Kad smo već tako daleko dogurali, počeli smo shvačati
11:58
we started to learn that bacteria can talk to each other
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da bakterije mogu međusobno razgovarati putem tog kemijskog jezika.
12:00
with this chemical language.
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Međutim, počeli smo misliti da možda postoji nešto
12:02
But we started to think
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that maybe there is something practical that we can do here as well.
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praktično što ovdje možemo učiniti.
Već sam vam rekla da bakterije uistinu imaju različita društvena ponašanja,
12:06
I've told you that bacteria have all these social behaviors,
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one komuniciraju pomoću ovih molekula.
12:09
that they communicate with these molecules.
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12:11
Of course, I've also told you that one of the important things they do
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Naravno, isto sam vam već rekla da je jedna od važnijih stvari što one čine
da izazivaju patogeni učinak koristeći kvorumsku svijest.
12:15
is to initiate pathogenicity using quorum sensing.
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Mislili smo, što ako prisilimo ove bakterije
12:18
So we thought:
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12:19
What if we made these bacteria so they can't talk or they can't hear?
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tako da ne mogu govoriti ili ne mogu čuti?
Zar ne bi one mogle postati nove vrste antibiotika?
12:23
Couldn't these be new kinds of antibiotics?
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12:25
And of course, you've just heard and you already know
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Svakako, upravo ste čuli i već znate
da nam ponestaje antibiotika.
12:28
that we're running out of antibiotics.
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Bakterije su trenutno veoma otporne na različite vrste lijekova,
12:30
Bacteria are incredibly multi-drug-resistant right now,
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12:32
and that's because all of the antibiotics that we use kill bacteria.
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a to je stoga što svi antibiotici koje koristimo ubijaju bakterije.
12:36
They either pop the bacterial membrane,
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Oni izazivaju pucanje bakterijske membrane,
12:38
they make the bacterium so it can't replicate its DNA.
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koje tvore bakteriju tako da ona ne može replicirati svoju DNA.
12:41
We kill bacteria with traditional antibiotics,
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Ubijamo bakterije tradicionalnim antibioticima
12:44
and that selects for resistant mutants.
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a to selekcionira otporne mutante.
12:46
And so now, of course, we have this global problem
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I naravno sada imamo ovaj globalni problem
12:49
in infectious diseases.
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sa zaraznim bolestima.
12:51
So we thought, what if we could sort of do behavior modifications,
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Pomislili smo, što kad bismo mogli načiniti neku vrstu promjene ponašanja,
12:54
just make these bacteria so they can't talk, they can't count,
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jednostavno prisiliti bakterije da ne mogu govoriti, da ne mogu brojati,
i time da ne znaju započeti zarazu.
12:58
and they don't know to launch virulence?
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13:00
So that's exactly what we've done,
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E pa točno to smo i učinili, i primijenili dvije strategije.
13:02
and we've sort of taken two strategies.
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Prva je da smo napali
13:04
The first one is, we've targeted the intraspecies communication system.
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komunikacijski sustav među vrstama.
13:08
So we made molecules that look kind of like the real molecules, which you saw,
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Napravili smo molekule koje su nalikovale stvarnim molekulama --
koje ste vidjeli -- no ipak su malo drugačije.
13:12
but they're a little bit different.
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One se prihvate na ove receptore,
13:14
And so they lock into those receptors,
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i pobrkaju raspoznavanje stvarnih stvari.
13:16
and they jam recognition of the real thing.
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13:18
So by targeting the red system,
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Napadom na crveni sustav,
13:20
what we are able to do is make species-specific, or disease-specific,
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u stanju smo učiniti
posebnu vrstu, ili molekule anti-kvorumske svijesti posebnih bolesti.
13:25
anti-quorum-sensing molecules.
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13:27
We've also done the same thing with the pink system.
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Isto to smo uradili i sa ružičastim sustavom.
13:30
We've taken that universal molecule and turned it around a little bit
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Uzeli smo tu univerzalnu molekulu te je malo promijenili
13:33
so that we've made antagonists of the interspecies communication system.
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i time smo načinili suparnike
komunikacijskom sustavu među vrstama.
Nadati se da će ovo biti primijenjeno na različite vrste antibiotika
13:38
The hope is that these will be used as broad-spectrum antibiotics
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13:42
that work against all bacteria.
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koji djeluju protiv bakterija.
13:44
And so to finish, I'll show you the strategy.
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Na kraju samo ću vam pokazati strategiju.
13:47
In this one, I'm just using the interspecies molecule,
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U ovoj prvoj, koristim samo molekulu među vrstama,
13:49
but the logic is exactly the same.
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no logika je potpuno ista.
13:51
So what you know is that when that bacterium gets into the animal --
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Ono što znate je da kada bakterija uđe u životinju,
u ovom slučaju, u miša,
13:55
in this case, a mouse --
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13:56
it doesn't initiate virulence right away.
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ne uzrokuje zarazu odmah.
13:58
It gets in, it starts growing,
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Ona uđe, počinje rasti, i počinje lučiti
14:00
it starts secreting its quorum-sensing molecules.
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svoje molekule kvorumske svijesti.
14:03
It recognizes when it has enough bacteria
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Prepozna kada ima dovoljno bakterija
14:05
that now they're going to launch their attack,
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i tada one započinju svoj napad,
i životinja umire.
14:08
and the animal dies.
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14:09
And so what we've been able to do is to give these virulent infections,
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Ono što smo u mogučnsti učiniti je dati ove infekcije,
14:12
but we give them in conjunction with our anti-quorum-sensing molecules.
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ali zajedno sa našim molekulama anti-kvorumske svijesti --
14:16
So these are molecules that look kind of like the real thing,
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znači ove molekule nalikuju na prave,
osim što su malo drugačije, kao što sam opisala na ovom dijapozitivu.
14:19
but they're a little different, which I've depicted on this slide.
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Sada znamo da kada tretiramo životinju
14:22
What we now know is that if we treat the animal with a pathogenic bacterium --
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patogenim bakterijama -- otpornima na različite lijekove --
14:26
a multi-drug-resistant pathogenic bacterium --
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14:28
in the same time we give our anti-quorum-sensing molecule,
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istovremeno im dajući i naše molekule anti-kvorumske svijesti,
14:32
in fact, the animal lives.
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životinja preživljava.
14:34
And so we think that this is the next generation of antibiotics,
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Smatramo da je ovo sljedeća generacija antibiotika
14:38
and it's going to get us around, at least initially,
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i da će barem u početku uspjeti zaobići
14:40
this big problem of resistance.
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taj veliki problem otpornosti.
14:42
What I hope you think is that bacteria can talk to each other,
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Nadam se da razumijete, da bakterije mogu govoriti međusobno,
koristeći pri tom kemijske spojeve kao riječi
14:46
they use chemicals as their words,
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14:48
they have an incredibly complicated chemical lexicon
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da imaju nevjerojatno složen kemijski rječnik,
14:51
that we're just now starting to learn about.
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i da tek sada počinjemo to spoznavati.
Naravno, ono što omogućuje bakteriji da to čini
14:54
Of course, what that allows bacteria to do is to be multicellular.
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je višestaničnost.
14:58
So in the spirit of TED,
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Dakle, u duhu TED-a oni ovo čine zajednički
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they're doing things together because it makes a difference.
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jer to omogućuje razliku.
Ono što se događa, je da bakterije imaju ta kolektivna ponašanja,
15:04
What happens is that bacteria have these collective behaviors,
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and they can carry out tasks
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i one mogu izvršiti zadatke
15:09
that they could never accomplish if they simply acted as individuals.
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koje nikada ne bi mogle izvršiti
kad bi djelovale pojedinačno.
15:13
What I would hope that I could further argue to you
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Nadam se nadalje da vas mogu uvjeriti
da je ovo izum višestaničnosti.
15:17
is that this is the invention of multicellularity.
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15:19
Bacteria have been on the earth for billions of years;
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Bakterije su na Zemlji već milijardama godina.
15:23
humans, couple hundred thousand.
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Ljudi -- tek nekoliko stotina tisuća.
15:25
So we think bacteria made the rules for how multicellular organization works.
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Smatramo da su bakterije stvorile pravila
kako da višestanični organizmi funkcioniraju.
Proučavajući bakterije, mislimo
15:31
And we think by studying bacteria,
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we're going to be able to have insight about multicellularity in the human body.
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da ćemo steći uvid u to kako funkcionira višestaničnost u ljudskom tijelu.
15:37
So we know that the principles and the rules,
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Znamo da će se načela i pravila,
15:39
if we can figure them out in these sort of primitive organisms,
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ako ih shvatimo u ovim primitivnim organizmima,
moći primijeniti
15:42
the hope is that they will be applied
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pri ljudskim oboljenjima i kod ljudskog ponašanja, također.
15:44
to other human diseases and human behaviors as well.
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Nadam se da ste naučili
15:48
I hope that what you've learned
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is that bacteria can distinguish self from other.
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da bakterija može razlikovati sebe od ostalih.
15:52
So by using these two molecules,
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Koristeći ove dvije molekule one mogu reći "ja" i mogu reći "ti".
15:53
they can say "me" and they can say "you."
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Opet, dakako, to je ono što mi činimo,
15:56
And again, of course, that's what we do,
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kako na molekularnoj razini,
15:58
both in a molecular way, and also in an outward way,
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tako i na spoljašnjoj,
16:01
but I think about the molecular stuff.
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no, ja ipak razmišljam o molekularnim stvarima.
16:03
This is exactly what happens in your body.
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Ovo je točno ono što se događa u vašem tijelu.
16:05
It's not like your heart cells and kidney cells get all mixed up every day,
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Nije kao kad se stanice vašega srca ili bubrega pomiješaju svakodnevno,
a to je zato što se sva ta kemija odvija,
16:09
and that's because there's all of this chemistry going on,
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16:11
these molecules that say who each of these groups of cells is
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ove molekule govore koja je koja od ovih skupina stanica,
i koja bi im trebala biti zadaća.
16:15
and what their tasks should be.
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16:16
So again, we think bacteria invented that,
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Ponovno, mislimo da su bakterije to izumile,
a vi ste se samo razvili dalje,
16:20
and you've just evolved a few more bells and whistles,
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16:22
but all of the ideas are in these simple systems that we can study.
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no, sve ideje se nalaze u ovim jednostavnim sustavima koje možemo proučavati.
16:26
And the final thing is, just to reiterate that there's this practical part,
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Zadnja stvar je, da još jednom ponovim da postoji i ovaj praktični dio,
16:30
and so we've made these anti-quorum-sensing molecules
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znači načinili smo ove molekule sa anti-kvorum sviješću
16:33
that are being developed as new kinds of therapeutics.
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koje se razvijaju kao nova vrsta lijekova.
16:36
But then, to finish with a plug for all the good and miraculous bacteria
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No onda, da završim i da se ponovno uključim na sve dobre i čudesne bakterije
16:39
that live on the earth,
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koje žive na Zemlji,
16:41
we've also made pro-quorum-sensing molecules.
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također smo napravili i molekule za kvorum svijest.
16:43
So we've targeted those systems to make the molecules work better.
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Znači, napadali smo te sustave kako bi primorali molekule da rade bolje.
Sjetite se da imate ovih 10 puta više bakterijskih stanica
16:47
So remember, you have these 10 times or more bacterial cells
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in you or on you, keeping you healthy.
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u vama i na vama, i koje vas održavaju zdravima.
16:52
What we're also trying to do is to beef up the conversation
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Ono što još pokušavamo napraviti je da pojačamo razgovor
bakterija koje žive zajedno s vama,
16:56
of the bacteria that live as mutualists with you,
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16:58
in the hopes of making you more healthy,
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u nadi da vas načinimo još zdravijima,
čineći te razgovore boljima,
17:01
making those conversations better,
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17:02
so bacteria can do things that we want them to do
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znači bekterije mogu činiti stvari koje mi želimo da rade
17:05
better than they would be on their own.
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bolje nego bi to same činile.
17:08
Finally, I wanted to show you --
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Konačno, želim vam pokazati
17:10
this is my gang at Princeton, New Jersey.
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ovo je moje društvo na Princeton-u, New Jersey.
Sve o čemu sam vam govorila je otkrio netko s ove slike.
17:13
Everything I told you about was discovered by someone in that picture.
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Nadam se da kada naučite neke stvari,
17:17
And I hope when you learn things, like about how the natural world works --
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kao na primjer kako prirodan svijet funkcionira --
17:20
I just want to say that whenever you read something in the newspaper
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želim samo kazati da kadgod pročitate nešto u novinama
17:23
or you hear some talk about something ridiculous in the natural world,
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ili čujete neko izlaganje o nečem smiješnom u prirodnom svijetu
to je napravilo neko dijete.
17:27
it was done by a child.
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17:28
So science is done by that demographic.
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Nauka se stvara od takve populacije.
Svi ovi ljudi su između 20 i 30 godina starosti,
17:31
All of those people are between 20 and 30 years old,
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17:34
and they are the engine that drives scientific discovery in this country.
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i oni su stroj koji pokreće znanstvena otkrića u ovoj zemlji.
Stvarno je to zahvalna populacija za rad.
17:39
And it's a really lucky demographic to work with.
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17:41
(Applause)
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Ja postajem sve starija i starija, a oni ostaju uvijek istih godina,
17:42
I keep getting older and older, and they're always the same age.
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i ovo je jednostavno ludo ugodan posao.
17:45
And it's just a crazy, delightful job.
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17:47
And I want to thank you for inviting me here,
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Željela bih vam se zahvaliti što ste me pozvali ovdje.
17:49
it's a big treat for me to get to come to this conference.
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Za mene je izuzetno uživanje bio dolazak na ovu konferenciju.
17:52
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
17:57
Thanks.
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Hvala.
17:58
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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