Jimmy Wales: How a ragtag band created Wikipedia

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ูŠุฑุฌู‰ ุงู„ู†ู‚ุฑ ู†ู‚ุฑู‹ุง ู…ุฒุฏูˆุฌู‹ุง ููˆู‚ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุฃุฏู†ุงู‡ ู„ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ.

ุงู„ู…ุชุฑุฌู…: Anwar Dafa-Alla ุงู„ู…ุฏู‚ู‘ู‚: Mahmoud Elfar
00:25
Charles Van Doren, who was later a senior editor of Britannica,
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ุนุงู… 1962ุŒ ุชุดุงุฑู„ุฒ ูุงู† ุฏูˆุฑู†ุŒ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูƒุงู† ู„ุงุญู‚ุงู‹ ู…ุญุฑุฑ ู…ูˆุณูˆุนุฉ ุจูŠุฑุชุงู†ูŠูƒุงุŒ
00:28
said the ideal encyclopedia should be radical --
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ู‚ุงู„ ุฃู† ุงู„ู…ูˆุณูˆุนุฉ ุงู„ู…ุซุงู„ูŠุฉ ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ุชูƒูˆู† ุฌุฐุฑูŠุฉ-- ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ู„ุง ุชุฌู…ุฏ.
00:31
it should stop being safe.
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00:33
But if you know anything about the history of Britannica since 1962,
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ู„ูƒู† ุงุฐุง ุนุฑูุชู… ุฃูŠ ุดุฆ ุญูˆู„ ุชุงุฑูŠุฎ ู…ูˆุณูˆุนุฉ ุจุฑูŠุชุงู†ูŠูƒุง ู…ู†ุฐ 1962ุŒ
00:36
it was anything but radical:
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ูƒุงู†ุช ุฃูŠ ุดุฆ ุณูˆู‰ ุฌุฐุฑูŠุฉ:
00:38
still a very completely safe, stodgy type of encyclopedia.
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ู…ุงุฒุงู„ุช ู…ุชุฌู…ุฏุฉุŒ ู†ูˆุน ุซู‚ูŠู„ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ูˆุณูˆุนุงุช.
00:43
Wikipedia, on the other hand, begins with a very radical idea,
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ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุงุŒ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ู†ู‚ูŠุถุŒ ุชุจุฏุฃ ุจููƒุฑุฉ ุฌุฐุฑูŠุฉ ุฌุฏุงู‹ุŒ
00:47
and that's for all of us to imagine a world
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ูˆุฃู†ู‡ุง ู„ู†ุง ุฌู…ูŠุนุงู‹ ู„ู†ุชุฎูŠู„ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู…
00:49
in which every single person on the planet
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ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠูุนุทู‰ ููŠู‡ ูƒู„ ูุฑุฏ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ูƒูˆูƒุจ
00:51
is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge.
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ุญู‚ ุงู„ูˆุตูˆู„ ุงู„ู‰ ู…ุฌู…ูˆุน ูƒู„ ุงู„ู…ุนุฑูุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุณุงู†ูŠุฉ.
00:53
And that's what we're doing.
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ูˆู‡ุฐุง ู…ุง ู†ูุนู„ู‡. ู„ุฐุง ู ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุง--
00:56
So Wikipedia --
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you just saw the little demonstration of it --
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ุฑุฃูŠุชู… ุงู„ุชู…ู‡ูŠุฏ ุงู„ุจุณูŠุท ู„ู‡ุง --
00:59
it's a freely licensed encyclopedia.
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ู‡ูŠ ู…ูˆุณูˆุนุฉ ู…ุฑุฎุตุฉ ุจุญูุฑูŠุฉ. ูƒุชุจู‡ุง ุขู„ุงู„ุงู ุงู„ู…ุชุทูˆุนูŠู†
01:01
It's written by thousands of volunteers
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all over the world in many, many languages.
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ู…ู† ูƒู„ ุฃู†ุญุงุก ุงู„ุนุงู„ู… ููŠ ู„ุบุงุช ู…ุชุนุฏุฏุฉ.
01:06
It's written using wiki software --
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ุจูุฑู…ุฌุช ุจุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู… ุจุฑู†ุงู…ุฌ ุงู„ูˆูŠูƒูŠ--
01:08
which is the type of software he just demonstrated --
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ุงู„ุฐูŠ ู‡ูˆ ู†ูˆุน ู…ู† ุงู„ุจุฑุงู…ุฌ ุงู„ุชูŠ ู‚ุฏู…ู†ุงู‡ุง ู‚ุจู„ ู‚ู„ูŠู„
01:10
so anyone can quickly edit and save,
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-- ู„ุฐุง ูุจู…ุณุชุทุงุน ุฃูŠ ุดุฎุต ุจุณุฑุนุฉ ุงู„ุชุญุฑูŠุฑ ูˆุงู„ุญูุธุŒ
01:12
and it goes live on the Internet immediately.
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ูˆูŠุชู… ุงู„ู†ุดุฑ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฅู†ุชุฑู†ุช ููŠ ุงู„ุญุงู„.
01:15
And everything about Wikipedia is managed by virtually an all-volunteer staff.
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ูˆูƒู„ ุดุฆ ุนู† ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุง ูŠุชู… ุฅุฏุงุฑุชู‡ ุฅูุชุฑุงุถูŠุงู‹ ุจูˆุงุณุทุฉ ู…ูˆุธููŠู† ู…ุชุทูˆุนูŠู† ูƒู„ูŠุงู‹.
01:20
So when Yochai is talking about new methods of organization,
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ู„ุฐุง ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ูŠุชุญุฏุซ ูŠูˆุดุงูŠ ุนู† ุทุฑู‚ ุฌุฏูŠุฏุฉ ู„ู„ุชู†ุธูŠู…ุŒ
01:24
he's exactly describing Wikipedia.
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ูู‡ูˆ ูŠุตู ุจุงู„ุถุจุท ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุง. ูˆู…ุง ุณุฃูุนู„ู‡ ุงู„ูŠูˆู…
01:27
And what I'm going to do today
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is tell you a little bit more about how it really works on the inside.
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ู‡ูˆ ุฅุฎุจุงุฑูƒู… ุงู„ู…ุฒูŠุฏ ุญูˆู„ ูƒูŠููŠุฉ ุนู…ู„ู‡ุง ู…ู† ุงู„ุฏุงุฎู„.
01:32
So Wikipedia's owned by the Wikimedia Foundation,
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ุงุฐุงู‹ ู ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุง ุชู…ู„ูƒู‡ุง ู…ุคุณุณุฉ ูˆูŠูƒูŠ-ู…ูŠุฏูŠุงุŒ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฃุณุณุชู‡ุง ุฃู†ุงุŒ
01:36
which I founded,
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a nonprofit organization.
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And our goal, the core aim of the Wikimedia Foundation,
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ู…ู†ุธู…ุฉ ุบูŠุฑ ุฑุจุญูŠุฉ. ูˆู‡ุฏูู†ุงุŒ ุฌูˆู‡ุฑ ู‡ุฏูู†ุง ููŠ ู…ุคุณุณุฉ ูˆูŠูƒูŠ-ู…ูŠุฏูŠุงุŒ
01:42
is to get a free encyclopedia to every single person on the planet.
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ู‡ูˆ ุชู‚ุฏูŠู… ู…ูˆุณูˆุนุฉ ู…ุฌุงู†ูŠุฉ ู„ูƒู„ ูุฑุฏ ุนู„ู‰ ูƒูˆูƒุจ ุงู„ุฃุฑุถ.
01:46
And so, if you think about what that means,
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ูˆุงุฐุง ููƒุฑุชู… ุญูˆู„ ู…ุงุฐุง ูŠุนู†ูŠ ู‡ุฐุงุŒ
01:48
it means a lot more than just building a cool website.
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ู‡ุฐุง ูŠุนู†ูŠ ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุจูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุจู†ุงุก ู…ูˆู‚ุน ุฌู…ูŠู„.
01:50
We're really interested in all the issues of the digital divide,
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ู†ุญู† ู…ู‡ุชู…ูˆู† ุจุงู„ูุนู„ ุจูƒู„ ุงู„ู‚ุถุงูŠุง ุญูˆู„ ุงู„ููˆุงุฑู‚ ุงู„ุฑู‚ู…ูŠุฉุŒ ุงู„ูู‚ุฑ ุนุงู„ู…ูŠุงู‹ุŒ
01:53
poverty worldwide,
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empowering people everywhere to have the information that they need
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ุชุนุฒูŠุฒ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ููŠ ูƒู„ ู…ูƒุงู† ู„ูŠุญุตู„ูˆุง ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุนู„ูˆู…ุงุช ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠุญุชุงุฌูˆู†
01:58
to make good decisions.
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01:59
And so we're going to have to do a lot of work
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ู„ุฃุฎุฐ ู‚ุฑุงุฑุงุช ุฌูŠุฏุฉ.
ูˆู„ุฐุง ูŠุชูˆุฌุจ ุนู„ูŠู†ุง ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุนู…ู„ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุฐู‡ุจ ู„ุฃุจุนุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฅู†ุชุฑู†ุช.
02:02
that goes beyond just the Internet.
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And so that's a big part of why we've chosen the free licensing model,
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ูˆู„ุฐุง ูู‡ุฐุง ุฌุฒุก ูƒุจูŠุฑ ู…ู† ู„ู…ุงุฐุง ุฃุฎุชุฑู†ุง ู†ู…ูˆุฐุฌ ุงู„ุฑุฎุตุฉ ุงู„ู…ุฌุงู†ูŠุฉุŒ
02:07
because that empowers local entrepreneurs or anyone who wants to --
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ู„ุฃู† ุฐู„ูƒ ูŠุนุฒุฒ ู…ู† ุฑุฌุงู„ ุงู„ุฃุนู…ุงู„ ุงู„ู…ุญู„ูŠูŠู†--
02:10
they can take our content and do anything they like with it --
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ุฃูˆ ุฃูŠ ุดุฎุต ูŠูˆุฏ ุฃู† ูŠูƒูˆู†ุŒ ูŠู…ูƒู† ู„ู‡ ุฃู† ูŠุฃุฎุฐ ู…ุญุชูˆูŠุงุชู†ุง
ูˆูŠูุนู„ ุจู‡ุง ู…ุง ูŠุฑูŠุฏ-- ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ู†ุณุฎู‡ุงุŒ ุฅุนุงุฏุฉ ู†ุดุฑู‡ุง
02:13
you can copy it, redistribute it --
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and you can do it commercially or non-commercially.
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ูˆูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ูุนู„ ุฐู„ูƒ ุชุฌุงุฑูŠุงู‹ ุฃูˆ ุบูŠุฑ ุชุฌุงุฑูŠุงู‹.
02:17
So there's a lot of opportunities that are going to arise around Wikipedia
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ู„ุฐุง ูู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ูุฑุต ุงู„ุชูŠ ุณุชุธู‡ุฑ ุญูˆู„ ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุง
02:21
all over the world.
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ุญูˆู„ ูƒู„ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู….
02:23
We're funded by donations from the public,
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ูŠู‚ูˆู… ุงู„ุนุงู…ุฉ ุจุงู„ุชุจุฑุน ู„ุชู…ูˆูŠู„ู†ุงุŒ
02:25
and one of the more interesting things about that
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ูˆุฃุญุฏ ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก ุงู„ู…ุซูŠุฑุฉ ุญูˆู„ ุฐู„ูƒ ู‡ูˆ
02:28
is how little money it actually takes to run Wikipedia.
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ุงู„ู‚ู„ูŠู„ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุงู„ ุงู„ู…ุทู„ูˆุจ ู„ุชุดุบูŠู„ ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุง.
02:31
So Yochai showed you the graph of what the cost of a printing press was.
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ุงุฐุงู‹ ูู‚ุฏ ุนุฑุถ ูŠูˆุดุงูŠ ุงู„ุฑุณู… ุงู„ุจูŠุงู†ูŠ ู„ุชูƒู„ูุฉ ุงู„ู…ุทุจุนุฉ .
02:36
And I'm going to tell you what the cost of Wikipedia is.
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ูˆุณุฃู‚ูˆู… ุจุฃุฎุจุงุฑูƒู… ุนู† ุชูƒู„ูุฉ ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุงุŒ
02:39
But first, I'll show you how big it is.
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So we've got over 600,000 articles in English.
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ู„ูƒู† ุจุฏุงูŠุฉ ุณุฃุนุฑุถ ุนู„ูŠูƒู… ูƒู… ู‡ูŠ ูƒุจูŠุฑุฉ.
ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ู…ุง ูŠุฒูŠุฏ ุนู„ู‰ 600 ุฃู„ู ู…ูˆุถูˆุน ุจุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ.
02:46
We've got two million total articles across many, many different languages.
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ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ู…ุฌู…ูˆุน ู…ู„ูŠูˆู†ูŠ ู…ูˆุถูˆุน ุญูˆู„ ุงู„ุนุฏูŠุฏุŒ ุงู„ุนุฏูŠุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ู„ุบุงุช.
02:50
The biggest languages are German, Japanese, French --
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ุฃูƒุจุฑ ุงู„ู„ุบุงุช ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุงู„ู…ุงู†ูŠุฉุŒ ุงู„ูŠุงุจุงู†ูŠุฉุŒ ุงู„ูุฑู†ุณูŠุฉ.
02:53
all the Western-European languages are quite big.
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ูƒู„ ู„ุบุงุช ุฃูˆุฑูˆุจุง ุงู„ุบุฑุจูŠุฉ ูƒุซูŠุฑุฉ ู†ุณุจูŠุงู‹.
02:57
But only around one-third of all of our traffic to our web
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ู„ูƒู† ูู‚ุท ุญูˆุงู„ูŠ ุซู„ุซ ูƒู„ ุญุฑูƒุฉ ุงู„ุจูŠุงู†ุงุช ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุดุจูƒุฉ
03:00
clusters to the English Wikipedia,
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ุชุชุฌู‡ ู†ุญูˆ ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุง ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉุŒ
03:02
which is surprising to a lot of people.
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ุงู„ุดุฆ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠูุงุฌุฆ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณ.
03:04
A lot of people think in a very English-centric way on the Internet,
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ูŠู†ุญุตุฑ ุชููƒูŠุฑ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุญูˆู„ ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุฑูƒุฒ ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฅู†ุชุฑู†ุชุŒ
03:07
but for us, we're truly global.
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03:09
We're in many, many languages.
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ู„ูƒู† ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ู†ุง ูู†ุญู† ุนุงู„ู…ูŠูŠู†. ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ุงู„ุนุฏูŠุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ู„ุบุงุช
03:11
How popular we've gotten to be -- we're a top-50 website
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ู…ุง ู‡ูŠ ู…ุฏู‰ ุดู‡ุฑุชู†ุง -- ู†ุญู† ุจูŠู† ู‚ุงุฆู…ุฉ ุฃูˆู„ 50 ู…ูˆู‚ุน
03:15
and we're more popular than the New York Times.
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ูˆู†ุญู† ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุดูŠูˆุนุงู‹ ู…ู† ุตุญูŠูุฉ ุงู„ู†ูŠูˆูŠูˆุฑูƒ ุชุงูŠู…ุฒ.
03:17
So this is where we get to Yochai's discussion.
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ุงุฐุงู‹ ู…ู† ู‡ู†ุง ู†ุตู„ ุงู„ู‰ ู†ู‚ุงุด ูŠูˆุดุงูŠ.
03:21
This shows the growth of Wikipedia -- we're the blue line there --
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ู‡ุฐุง ูŠุธู‡ุฑ ู†ู…ูˆ ุงู„ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุง-- ู†ุญู† ุจู„ูˆู† ุงู„ุฎุท ุงู„ุฃุฒุฑู‚ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ--
03:25
and this is the New York Times over there.
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ูˆุจุนุฏ ุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ู†ูŠูˆูŠูˆุฑูƒ ุชุงูŠู…ุฒ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ.
03:28
And what's interesting about this
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03:29
is the New York Times website is a huge, enormous corporate operation
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ูˆุงู„ุดุฆ ุงู„ู…ุซูŠุฑ ุญูˆู„ ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุฃู† ู…ูˆู‚ุน ู†ูŠูˆูŠูˆุฑูƒ ุชุงูŠู…ุฒ ุถุฎู…ุŒ
ู…ุฌู…ูˆุนุฉ ู‡ุงุฆู„ุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ุนู…ู„ูŠุงุช-- ู„ูŠุณุช ู„ุฏูŠ ููƒุฑุฉ ุญูˆู„ ุนุฏุฏ ุงู„ู…ูˆุธููŠู† - ุฑุจู…ุง ุงู„ู…ุฆุงุช
03:34
with I have no idea how many hundreds of employees.
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03:36
We have exactly one employee,
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ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ุจุงู„ุถุจุท ู…ูˆุธู ูˆุงุญุฏุŒ
03:38
and that employee is our lead software developer.
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ูˆู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ูˆุธู ู‡ูˆ ู‚ุงุฆุฏ ุชุทูˆูŠุฑ ุงู„ุจุฑู…ุฌูŠุงุช ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง.
03:41
And he's only been our employee since January 2005,
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ูˆู‡ูˆ ูŠุนู…ู„ ู…ูˆุธู ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ูู‚ุท ู…ู†ุฐ ูŠู†ุงูŠุฑ ุนุงู… 2005ุŒ
03:44
all the other growth before that ...
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ุบูŠุฑ ุฐู„ูƒ ูƒู„ ุงู„ู†ู…ูˆ ูƒุงู† ู‚ุจู„.
03:46
So the servers are managed by a ragtag band of volunteers.
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ุฅุฐุงู‹ ูุงู„ู…ุฎุฏู…ุงุช ูŠุฏูŠุฑู‡ุง ู…ุฌู…ูˆุนุฉ ู…ุจุนุซุฑุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุชุทูˆุนูŠู†ุŒ
03:49
All the editing is done by volunteers.
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ูƒู„ ุงู„ุชุญุฑูŠุฑ ูŠุชู… ุจูˆุงุณุทุฉ ู…ุชุทูˆุนูŠู†.
03:51
And the way that we're organized
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ูˆุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุจู‡ุง ู†ุชู†ุธู…
03:53
is not like any traditional organization you can imagine.
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ู„ูŠุณุช ูƒุฃูŠ ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุชู‚ู„ูŠุฏูŠุฉ ู„ู„ุชู†ุธูŠู… ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒู… ุชุฎูŠู„ู‡ุง.
03:56
People are always asking, "Well, who's in charge of this?"
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ูŠุณุฃู„ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุฏุงุฆู…ุงู‹ุŒ " ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุณุฆูˆู„ ุนู† ูƒู„ ู‡ุฐุงุŸ"
03:58
or "Who does that?"
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ุฃูˆ " ู…ู† ูุนู„ ู‡ุฐุงุŸ" ูˆุงู„ุฌูˆุงุจ ู‡ูˆ: ุฃูŠ ุดุฎุต ูŠุฑูŠุฏ ุฃู† ูŠู†ุฒู„ ู„ุฃุฑุถ ุงู„ู…ู„ุนุจ.
04:00
And the answer is: anybody who wants to pitch in.
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04:02
It's a very unusual and chaotic thing.
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ุฅู†ู‡ุง ุดุฆ ุบูŠุฑ ู…ุนุชุงุฏ ูˆููˆุถูˆูŠ.
04:06
We've got over 90 servers now in three locations.
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ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ู…ุง ูŠุฒูŠุฏ ุนู„ู‰ 90 ู…ุฎุฏู… ููŠ ุซู„ุงุซุฉ ุฃู…ุงูƒู†.
04:08
These are managed by volunteer system administrators who are online.
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ูŠุฏูŠุฑู‡ุง ู†ุธุงู… ุชุทูˆุน ุฅุฏุงุฑูŠ ู„ู…ู† ู‡ูˆ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฎุท.
04:14
I can go online any time of the day or night
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ุฃุณุชุทูŠุน ุงู„ุฏุฎูˆู„ ููŠ ุฃูŠ ู„ุญุธุฉ ุฃุฑูŠุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ูŠูˆู… ุฃูˆ ุงู„ู„ูŠู„
04:16
and see eight to 10 people waiting for me
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ูˆุฃุฑู‰ ุซู…ุงู†ูŠุฉ ุงู„ู‰ ุนุดุฑุฉ ุฃุดุฎุงุต ูŠู†ุชุธุฑูˆู†ูŠ
04:20
to ask a question or something, anything about the servers.
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ู„ูŠุณุฃู„ูˆุง ุณุคุงู„ ุฃูˆ ุดุฆุŒ ุฃูŠ ุดุฆ ุญูˆู„ ุงู„ู…ุฎุฏู…ุงุช.
04:24
You could never afford to do this in a company.
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ู„ุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ุชู‚ุฏูŠู… ุฐู„ูƒ ููŠ ุดุฑูƒุฉ.
04:26
You could never afford
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04:27
to have a standby crew of people 24 hours a day
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ู„ุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ุจุชุงุชุงู‹ ุชู‚ุฏูŠู… ูุฑูŠู‚ ุฌุงู‡ุฒ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณ
04:31
and do what we're doing at Wikipedia.
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24 ุณุงุนุฉ ูŠูˆู…ูŠุงู‹ ูˆูŠูุนู„ูˆู† ู…ุง ู†ูุนู„ู‡ ููŠ ูˆูŠูƒูŠ ุจูŠุฏูŠุง.
04:34
So we're doing around 1.4 billion page views monthly,
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ุงุฐุงู‹ ูู†ุญู† ู†ุฎุฏู… ุญูˆุงู„ูŠ ู…ู„ูŠุงุฑ ูˆุงุฑุจุนู…ุงุฆุฉ ู…ู„ูŠูˆู† ู…ุดุงู‡ุฏุฉ ุตูุญุงุช ุดู‡ุฑูŠุงู‹ุŒ
04:37
so it's really gotten to be a huge thing.
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ู„ุฐุง ูู‚ุฏ ุฃุตุจุญุช ุดูŠุฆุงู‹ ุถุฎู…ุงู‹.
04:40
And everything is managed by the volunteers.
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ูˆูƒู„ ุดุฆ ูŠู†ุธู…ู‡ ุงู„ู…ุชุทูˆุนูˆู†.
04:42
And the total monthly cost for our bandwidth is about 5,000 dollars.
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ูˆุงู„ู…ุฌู…ูˆุน ุงู„ูƒู„ูŠ ุงู„ุดู‡ุฑูŠ ู„ู†ูู‚ุงุช ู†ุทุงู‚ ุญุฑูƒุชู†ุง ุญูˆุงู„ูŠ 5 ุขู„ุงู ุฏูˆู„ุงุฑ.
04:47
And that's essentially our main cost.
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04:48
We could actually do without the employee.
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ูˆู‡ุฐุง ุจุงู„ุถุจุท ุชูƒู„ูุชู†ุง ุงู„ุฑุฆูŠุณูŠุฉ.
ุจู…ุณุชุทุงุนู†ุง ูุนู„ ุฐู„ูƒ ุจุฏูˆู† ู…ูˆุธู ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉู‹. ู†ุญู† ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน--
04:51
We hired Brian because he was working part-time for two years
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ู‚ู…ู†ุง ุจุชูˆุธูŠู ุจุฑุงูŠู† ู„ุฃู†ู‡ ูƒุงู† ูŠุนู…ู„ ุฌุฒุฆูŠุงู‹ ู„ู…ุฏุฉ ุนุงู…ูŠู†
04:55
and full-time at Wikipedia,
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ูˆุจุนุฏ ุฐู„ูƒ ูƒู„ ุงู„ูˆู‚ุช ููŠ ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุงุŒ
04:57
so we actually hired him,
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04:58
so he could get a life and go to the movies sometimes.
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ู„ุฐุง ูู‚ุฏ ูˆุธูู†ุงู‡ ุจุญูŠุซ ูŠุคู…ู† ุฏุฎู„ู‡ ูˆูŠุฐู‡ุจ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุณูŠู†ู…ุง ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุฃูˆู‚ุงุช.
05:01
So the big question when you've got this really chaotic organization is,
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ุฅุฐุงู‹ ูุงู„ุณุคุงู„ ุงู„ูƒุจูŠุฑ ุญูŠู†ู…ุง ูŠูƒูˆู† ู„ุฏูŠูƒ ู…ู†ุธู…ุฉ ููˆุถูˆูŠุฉ ู‡ูˆุŒ
05:05
why isn't it all rubbish?
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05:06
Why is the website as good as it is?
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ู„ู…ุงุฐุง ู„ูŠุณุช ูƒู„ู‡ุง ููˆุถู‰ุŸ ู„ู…ุงุฐุง ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุน ุฌูŠุฏ ูƒู…ุง ู‡ูˆุŸ
05:08
First of all, how good is it?
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05:10
Well, it's pretty good.
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ุฃูˆู„ ุดุฆ ุŒ ู…ุง ู‡ูŠ ุฌูˆุฏุชู‡ุŸ ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ ุฃู†ู‡ ุฌูŠุฏ. ู„ูŠุณ ุจุฅู…ุชูŠุงุฒุŒ
05:11
It isn't perfect,
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05:13
but it's much better than you would expect,
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ู„ูƒู†ู‡ ุฃูุถู„ ูƒุซูŠุฑุงู‹ ุนู† ู…ุง ู‚ุฏ ุชุชูˆู‚ุนูˆู†ุŒ
05:15
given our completely chaotic model.
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05:16
So when you saw him make a ridiculous edit to the page about me,
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ุจุฅุนุชุจุงุฑ ู†ู…ูˆุฐุฌู†ุง ุงู„ููˆุถูˆูŠ ูƒู„ูŠุงู‹.
ู„ุฐุง ูุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุชุฑุงู‡ ูŠุญุฑุฑ ูƒู„ุงู…ุงู‹ ุฅุนุชุจุงุทูŠุฃู‹ ู„ุตูุญุฉ ุนู†ูŠุŒ
05:19
you think, "Oh, this is obviously just going to degenerate into rubbish."
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ุชุนุชู‚ุฏุŒ ุฃูˆู‡ุŒ ู‡ุฐุง ุดุฆ ู…ุนุชุงุฏ ูˆู…ู† ุงู„ูˆุงุถุญ ุฃู†ู‡ุง ุณุชุฐู‡ุจ ุงู„ู‰ ุงู„ู‚ู…ุงู…ุฉ.
05:23
But when we've seen quality tests --
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05:25
and there haven't been enough of these yet
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ู„ูƒู† ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุชุฑู‰ ุฅุฎุชุจุงุฑุงุช ุงู„ุฌูˆุฏุฉ -- ูˆ ู„ุง ูŠูˆุฌุฏ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู…ุง ูŠูƒููŠ ู…ู†ู‡ุง ุญุชู‰ ุงู„ุขู†
05:27
and I'm really encouraging people to do more,
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ูˆุฃู†ุง ุฃุดุฌุน ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุจุดุฏุฉ ู„ูุนู„ ุงู„ู…ุฒูŠุฏุŒ
05:30
comparing Wikipedia to traditional things --
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ู…ู‚ุงุฑู†ุฉ ุจูŠู† ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุง ูˆ ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก ุงู„ุชู‚ู„ูŠุฏูŠุฉ-- ู„ู‚ุฏ ูุฒู†ุง ุงู„ุฌูˆู„ุฉ.
05:32
we win hands down.
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05:34
So a German magazine compared German Wikipedia,
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ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ู‚ุงู…ุช ู…ุฌู„ุฉ ุงู„ู…ุงู†ูŠุฉ ุจู…ู‚ุงุฑู†ุฉ ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุง ุงู„ุงู„ู…ุงู†ูŠุฉุŒ
05:36
which is much, much smaller than English,
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ุงู„ุชูŠ ู‡ูŠ ุฃุตุบุฑ ุจูƒุซูŠุฑ ุฌุฏุงู‹ ุฌุฏุงู‹ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉุŒ
05:40
to Microsoft Encarta and to Brockhaus multimedial,
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ู…ุน ู…ูˆุณูˆุนุฉ ู…ุงูŠูƒุฑูˆุณูˆูุช (ุฅู†ูƒุงุฑุชุง) ูˆู…ุน ุจุฑูˆูƒู‡ุงูˆุณ ู…ู„ุชูŠู…ูŠุฏุงุŒ
05:44
and we won across the board.
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05:45
They hired experts to come and look at articles and compare the quality,
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ูุฅู†ู†ุง ูุฒู†ุง ููŠ ุงู„ุฅุฎุชุจุงุฑ.
ู„ู‚ุฏ ุนูŠู†ูˆุง ุฎุจุฑุงุก ู„ูŠุฃุชูˆุง ูˆูŠู†ุธุฑูˆุง ููŠ ุงู„ู…ูˆุถูˆุนุงุช ูˆูŠู‚ุงุฑู†ูˆุง ุฌูˆุฏุชู‡ุงุŒ
05:49
and we were very pleased with that result.
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ูˆู†ุญู† ุณุนุฏุงุก ุฌุฏุงู‹ ุจุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ู†ุชุงุฆุฌ.
05:52
So a lot of people have heard about the Wikipedia Bush-Kerry controversy.
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ู„ุฐุง ูุงู„ุนุฏูŠุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุณู…ุนูˆุง ุจู…ุบุงู„ุทุฉ ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุง ุญูˆู„ ุจูˆุด ูˆูƒูŠุฑูŠ.
05:57
The media has covered this somewhat extensively.
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ู‡ุฐุง -- ู„ู‚ุฏ ุบุทุช ูˆุณุงุฆู„ ุงู„ุฅุนู„ุงู… ู‡ุฐุง ุจูƒุซุงูุฉ.
06:00
It started out with an article in Red Herring.
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ุจุฏุฃุช ุจู…ูˆุถูˆุน ููŠ ุงู„ุฑู†ุฌุฉ ุงู„ุญู…ุฑุงุก (ู†ูˆุน ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃุณู…ุงูƒ).
06:03
The reporters called me up and they --
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ุฃุชุตู„ ุจูŠ ุงู„ุตุญููŠูŠู† -- ุฃุนู†ูŠุŒ ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ุฃู‚ูˆู„
06:05
I mean, I have to say they spelled my name right,
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ู†ุทู‚ูˆุง ุฃุณู…ูŠ ุจุตูˆุฑุฉ ุตุญูŠุญุฉุŒ ู„ูƒู†ู‡ู… ุฃุฑุงุฏูˆุง ูุนู„ุงู‹ ุงู„ู‚ูˆู„ุŒ
06:08
but they really wanted to say the Bush-Kerry election is so contentious,
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ุฃู† ู…ูˆุถูˆุน ุฅู†ุชุฎุงุจ ุจูˆุด ุฃูˆูƒูŠุฑูŠ ุฌุฏู„ูŠ ู„ู„ุบุงูŠุฉุŒ
06:13
it's tearing apart the Wikipedia community.
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ุฃู†ู‡ ูŠู…ุฒู‚ ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุน ููŠ ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุง. ูˆุนู„ูŠู‡ ุงู‚ุชุจุณูˆุง ู…ู†ูŠ ู‚ูˆู„ูŠุŒ
06:15
And so they quote me as saying,
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06:17
"They're the most contentious in the history of Wikipedia."
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" ุฃู†ู‡ ุงู„ุงูƒุซุฑ ุฌุฏู„ุงู‹ ููŠ ุชุงุฑูŠุฎ ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุง."
06:20
What I actually said is they're not contentious at all.
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ูˆู…ุง ู‚ู„ุชู‡ ููŠ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉุŒ ุฃู†ู‡ ู„ูŠุณ ุฌุฏู„ูŠุงู‹ ุจุงู„ู…ุฑุฉ.
06:22
So it's a slight misquote.
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ุฅู†ู‡ุง ู…ุฌุฑุฏ ู†ุงู…ูˆุณุฉ ุชุงูู‡ุฉ. ู„ู‚ุฏ ุชู… ุชุญุฑูŠุฑ ุงู„ู…ูˆุงุถูŠุน ุจุตูˆุฑุฉ ู…ูƒุซูุฉ.
06:24
(Laughter)
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06:26
The articles were edited quite heavily.
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06:28
And it is true that we did have to lock the articles
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ูˆุตุญูŠุญ ุฃู†ู†ุง ุนู…ุฏู†ุง ู„ุฅุบู„ุงู‚ ุงู„ู…ูˆุถูˆุนุงุช ุงู„ุชูŠ ูƒุงู†ุช ููŠ ุนุฏุฉ ู…ู†ุงุณุจุงุช.
06:31
on a couple of occasions.
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06:32
Time magazine recently reported that
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ุฐูƒุฑุช ู…ุฌู„ุฉ ุงู„ุชุงูŠู… ู…ุคุฎุฑุงู‹ ุฃู†
06:34
"Extreme action sometimes has to be taken,
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" ู‡ู†ุงู„ูƒ ุชุญุฑูƒุงุช ู…ุชุดุฏุฏุฉ ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ุชุคุฎุฐ ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุฃุญูŠุงู†ุŒ
06:36
and Wales locked the entries on Kerry and Bush for most of 2004."
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ูˆุฃุบู„ู‚ ูˆุงู„ุฒ ุงู„ู…ุฏุงุฎู„ุงุช ุญูˆู„ ูƒูŠุฑูŠ ูˆุจูˆุด ุทูˆุงู„ ุนุงู… 2004."
06:41
This came after I told the reporter that we had to lock it for --
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ุฌุงุก ู‡ุฐุง ุจุนุฏ ุฃู† ุฃุฎุจุฑุช ุงู„ุตุญููŠ ุฃู†ู‡ ุชูˆุฌุจ ุนู„ูŠู†ุง ุฅุบู„ุงู‚ู‡--
06:46
occasionally a little bit here and there.
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ุฃุญูŠุงู†ุงู‹ ู‡ู†ุง ูˆู‡ู†ุงูƒ.
06:48
So the truth in general is that the kinds of controversies
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ุฅุฐุงู‹ ูุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ุนุงู…ุฉ ู‡ูŠ ุฃู† ู…ุซู„ ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุฎู„ุงูุงุช
06:51
that you would probably think we have within the Wikipedia community
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ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฑุจู…ุง ุชุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู†ู‡ุง ู„ุฏูŠูƒ ููŠ ู…ุฌุชู…ุน ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุง
06:54
are not really controversies at all.
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ู„ูŠุณุช ุฎู„ุงูุงุช ุจุชุงุชุงู‹.
06:57
Articles on controversial topics are edited a lot,
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ุงู„ู…ู‚ุงู„ุงุช ููŠ ุงู„ู…ูˆุถูˆุนุงุช ุงู„ุฎู„ุงููŠุฉ ูŠุชู… ุชุญุฑูŠุฑู‡ุง ูƒุซูŠุฑุงู‹ุŒ
07:00
but they don't cause much controversy within the community.
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ู„ูƒู†ู‡ุง ู„ุง ุชุณุจุจ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฎู„ุงูุงุช ุฏุงุฎู„ ู…ุฌุชู…ุน ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุง.
07:03
And the reason for this is that most people understand the need for neutrality.
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ูˆุงู„ุณุจุจ ูˆุฑุงุก ุฐู„ูƒ ุฃู† ู…ุนุธู… ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ูŠูู‡ู…ูˆู† ุงู„ุญูˆุฌุฉ ู„ู„ุญูŠุงุฏ.
07:07
The real struggle is not between the right and the left --
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ุงู„ู…ุนุงู†ุงุฉ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ูŠุฉ ู„ูŠุณุช ุจูŠู† ุงู„ูŠู…ูŠู† ูˆุงู„ูŠุณุงุฑ--
07:14
that's where most people assume --
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07:15
but it's between the party of the thoughtful
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ุญูŠุซ ูŠูุชุฑุถ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณ--
ู„ูƒู†ู‡ุง ุจูŠู† ู…ุฌู…ูˆุนุฉ ุงู„ู…ููƒุฑูŠู† ูˆู…ุฌู…ูˆุนุฉ ุงู„ุจู„ู‡ุงุก.
07:18
and the party of the jerks.
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07:19
And no side of the political spectrum
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ูˆู„ูŠุณ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุฌุงู†ุจ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุดู‡ุฏ ุงู„ุณูŠุงุณูŠ ู„ุฏูŠู‡ ุญูƒุฑ ุนู„ู‰ ุฃูŠ ู…ู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุตูุงุช.
07:21
has a monopoly on either of those qualities.
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07:23
The actual truth about the specific Bush-Kerry incident
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ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุนูŠุฉ ุญูˆู„ ูˆุงู‚ุนุฉ ุจูˆุด ุฃูˆ ูƒูŠุฑูŠ ุชุญุฏูŠุฏุงู‹
07:26
is that the Bush-Kerry articles
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ู‡ูŠ ุฃู† ู…ู‚ุงู„ุงุช ุจูˆุด ุฃูˆ ูƒูŠุฑูŠ
07:29
were locked less than one percent of the time in 2004,
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ุฃุบู„ู‚ุช ู„ู…ุฏุฉ ุชู‚ู„ ุนู† ูˆุงุญุฏ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุงุฆุฉ ู…ู† ุนุงู… 2004ุŒ
07:32
and it wasn't because they were contentious;
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ูˆู„ู… ูŠูƒู† ุงู„ุณุจุจ ุฃู†ู‡ุง ูƒุงู†ุช ุฎู„ุงููŠุฉ.
07:34
it was just because there was routine vandalism --
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ูƒุงู† ุฐู„ูƒ ูู‚ุท ุจุณุจุจ ุฃู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุชุฎุฑูŠุจ ู…ุณุชู…ุฑ--
07:36
which happens sometimes even on stage ...
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ูˆุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุญุฏุซ ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุฃุญูŠุงู† ุญุชู‰ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุณุฑุญุŒ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ--
07:40
(Laughter)
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07:41
Sometimes even reporters have reported to me that they vandalized Wikipedia
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ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุฃุญูŠุงู† ุญุชู‰ ุงู„ุตุญููŠูŠู† ูŠุจู„ุบูˆู†ูŠ ุฃู†ู‡ู… ูŠุฎุฑุจูˆู† ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุง
07:45
and were amazed that it was fixed so quickly.
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ูˆุฃู†ู‡ู… ู…ุฐู‡ูˆู„ูŠู† ุญูˆู„ ุณุฑุนุฉ ุงู„ุฅุตู„ุงุญ.
07:47
And I said -- you know, I always say, please don't do that.
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ูˆู‚ู„ุช ู„ู‡ู…-- ุชุนุฑููˆู†ุŒ ุฃู†ุง ุฃู‚ูˆู„ ุฏุงุฆู…ุงู‹ุŒ ุฑุฌุงุกู‹ ู„ุง ุชูุนู„ูˆุง ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ู‡ุฐุง ู„ูŠุณ ุดูŠุฆุงู‹ ุฌูŠุฏุงู‹.
07:50
That's not a good thing.
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07:51
So how do we do this?
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ุฅุฐุงู‹ ูƒูŠู ู†ูุนู„ ู‡ุฐุงุŸ
07:53
How do we manage the quality control?
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ู…ุงุฐุง-- ูƒูŠู ู†ุฏูŠุฑ ุงู„ุชุญูƒู… ููŠ ุงู„ุฌูˆุฏุฉุŸ
07:56
How does it work?
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ูƒูŠู ุชุนู…ู„ุŸ
07:59
So there's a few elements,
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ุฅุฐุงู‹ ูู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุงู„ู‚ู„ูŠู„ ู…ู† ุงู„ุนู†ุงุตุฑุŒ
08:00
mostly social policies and some elements of the software.
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ู…ุนุธู…ู‡ุง ุงู„ุณูŠุงุณุงุช ุงู„ุฅุฌุชู…ุงุนูŠุฉ ูˆุจุนุถ ุงู„ุนู†ุงุตุฑ ููŠ ุงู„ุจุฑู…ุฌูŠุงุช.
08:04
So the biggest and the most important thing
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ุฅุฐุงู‹ ูุงู„ุดุฆ ุงู„ุฃูƒุจุฑ ูˆุงู„ุฃู‡ู… ู…ู† ูˆุฌู‡ุฉ ู†ุธุฑ ุณูŠุงุณุชู†ุง ุงู„ู…ุญุงูŠุฏุฉ.
08:06
is our neutral point of view policy.
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08:08
This is something that I set down, from the very beginning,
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ู‡ูˆ ุดุฆ ูˆุถุนุชู‡ ู…ู† ุงู„ุจุฏุงูŠุฉุŒ
08:11
as a core principle of the community that's completely not debatable.
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ูƒุฃุณุงุณ ุฌูˆู‡ุฑูŠ ู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุน ู„ุง ูŠู‚ุจู„ ุงู„ุฌุฏู„.
08:15
It's a social concept of cooperation,
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ุฅู†ู‡ ุงู„ู…ูู‡ูˆู… ุงู„ุฅุฌุชู…ุงุนูŠ ู„ู„ุชุนุงูˆู†ุŒ
08:18
so we don't talk a lot about truth and objectivity.
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ุฅุฐุงู‹ ูู†ุญู† ู„ุง ู†ุชุญุฏุซ ูƒุซูŠุฑุงู‹ ุญูˆู„ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ูˆุงู„ู…ูˆุถูˆุนูŠุฉ.
08:21
The reason for this is if we say
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ูˆุงู„ุณุจุจ ูˆุฑุงุก ุฐู„ูƒ ู‡ูˆ ุฃู†ู‡ ู‚ู„ู†ุง ุฃู†ู†ุง ุณู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจูƒุชุงุจุฉ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ูู‚ุท ุญูˆู„ ุจุนุถ ุงู„ู…ูˆุถูˆุนุงุชุŒ
08:24
we're only going to write the "truth" about some topic,
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08:26
that doesn't do us a damn bit of good of figuring out what to write,
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ู„ุง ูŠุนุทูŠู†ุง ู‡ุฐุง ุฃูŠ ุดุฆ ุฌูŠุฏ ู„ู…ุนุฑูุฉ ู…ุงุฐุง ุณู†ูƒุชุจุŒ
08:29
because I don't agree with you about what's the truth.
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ู„ุฃู†ู†ูŠ ู„ุง ุฃุชูู‚ ู…ุน ู…ุง ุชูƒุชุจู‡ ุฃู†ุช ุญูˆู„ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ.
08:32
But we have this jargon term of neutrality,
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ู„ูƒู† ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ุตุทู„ุญุงุช ุŒ ู…ุตุทู„ุญ ุงู„ุญูŠุงุฏุŒ
08:34
which has its own long history within the community,
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ุงู„ุฐูŠ ู„ุฏูŠู‡ ุชุงุฑูŠุฎู‡ ุงู„ุทูˆูŠู„ ุฏุงุฎู„ ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุนุŒ
08:37
which basically says, any time there's a controversial issue,
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ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠู‚ูˆู„ ุจุจุณุงุทุฉุŒ ููŠ ุฃูŠ ูˆู‚ุช ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู…ูˆุถูˆุน ุฎู„ุงููŠุŒ
08:40
Wikipedia itself should not take a stand on the issue.
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ู„ุง ูŠุฌุจ ุนู„ู‰ ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุง ู†ูุณู‡ุง ุงู„ูˆู‚ูˆู ููŠ ุฃูŠ ุฌุงู†ุจ ู„ู„ู…ูˆุถูˆุน.
08:43
We should merely report on what reputable parties have said about it.
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ุนู„ูŠู†ุง ูู‚ุท ู†ุดุฑ ู…ุง ูŠู‚ูˆู„ู‡ ุงู„ุฌุงู†ุจ ุงู„ู…ุญุชุฑู… ุญูˆู„ ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ.
08:46
So this neutrality policy is really important for us
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ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุณูŠุงุณุฉ ุงู„ุญูŠุงุฏูŠุฉ ู…ู‡ู…ุฉ ุฌุฏุงู‹ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ู†ุงุŒ
08:49
because it empowers a community that is very diverse
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ู„ุฃู†ู‡ุง ุชู‚ูˆูŠ ู…ู† ู…ุฌุชู…ุนู†ุง ุงู„ู…ุชู†ูˆุน ุฌุฏุงู‹
08:52
to come together and actually get some work done.
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ู„ูŠุชูˆุญุฏ ูˆูŠู†ุฌุฒ ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุฃุนู…ุงู„ ุจุงู„ูุนู„.
08:55
So we have very diverse contributors
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ู„ุฐุง ูู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ู…ุณุงู‡ู…ุงุช ู…ุชู†ูˆุนุฉ ุฌุฏุงู‹ ููŠ ุฅุทุงุฑ ุงู„ุณูŠุงุณุฉุŒ ุงู„ุฃุฏูŠุงู†ุŒ
08:57
in terms of political, religious, cultural backgrounds.
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ุงู„ุฎู„ููŠุงุช ุงู„ุซู‚ุงููŠุฉ.
09:00
By having this firm neutrality policy,
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ุจูˆุฌูˆุฏ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุณูŠุงุณุฉ ุงู„ุญูŠุงุฏูŠุฉ ุงู„ุญุงุฒู…ุฉุŒ
09:02
which is non-negotiable from the beginning,
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ุงู„ุชูŠ ู„ุง ูŠู…ูƒู† ุชุฌุงู‡ู„ู‡ุง ู…ู†ุฐ ุงู„ุจุฏุงูŠุฉุŒ
09:04
we ensure that people can work together
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ู†ุชุฃูƒุฏ ุฃู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ูŠุนู…ู„ูˆุง ุณูˆูŠุงู‹
09:06
and that the entries don't become simply a war
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ูˆุฃู† ุงู„ู…ุฏุงุฎู„ุงุช ู„ุง ุชุชุญูˆู„ ุจุจุณุงุทุฉ ุงู„ู‰ ุญุฑุจุŒ
09:08
back and forth between the left and the right.
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ุฑุฏ ูˆุฑุฏ ุขุฎุฑ ุจูŠู† ุงู„ูŠุณุงุฑ ูˆุงู„ูŠู…ูŠู†.
09:10
If you engage in that type of behavior, you'll be asked to leave the community.
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ุฅุฐุง ุถู„ุนุช ููŠ ู…ุซู„ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู†ูˆุน ู…ู† ุงู„ุณู„ูˆูƒุŒ
ุณู†ุทู„ุจ ู…ู†ูƒ ู…ุบุงุฏุฑุฉ ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุน.
09:16
So, real-time peer review.
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09:17
Every single change on the site goes to the "Recent changes" page.
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ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุฃูŠุถุง ุงู„ู…ุฑุงุฌุนุฉ ุงู„ู„ุญุธูŠุฉ
ุฃูŠ ุชุบูŠูŠุฑ ุจุณูŠุท ููŠ ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุน ูŠุชู… ุฅุฏุฑุงุฌู‡ ููŠ ุตูุญุฉ "ุชู… ุชุญุฏูŠุซู‡ ู…ุคุฎุฑุงู‹"
09:20
So as soon as he made his change, it went to the "Recent changes" page.
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ู„ุฐุง ูุจู…ุฌุฑุฏ ุฃู† ูŠุญุฏุซ ุงู„ุชุบูŠูŠุฑุŒ ุชุฐู‡ุจ ุงู„ู‰ ุตูุญุฉ "ุชู… ุชุญุฏูŠุซู‡ ู…ุคุฎุฑุงู‹."
09:24
That recent changes page was also fed into an IRC channel,
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ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุตูุญุฉ ู„ู„ุชุญุฏูŠุซุงุช ุงู„ุฌุฏูŠุฏุฉ ุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ุชุตุจ ููŠ ู‚ู†ุงุฉ ุขูŠ ุขุฑ ุณูŠุŒ
09:28
which is an Internet chat channel
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ุงู„ุชูŠ ู‡ูŠ ู‚ู†ุงุฉ ุฏุฑุฏุดุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฅู†ุชุฑู†ุช
09:30
that people are monitoring with various software tools.
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ูˆุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠุฑุงู‚ุจู‡ุง ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ู…ู† ุฎู„ุงู„ ุจุงู‚ุฉ ู…ุชู†ูˆุนุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ุจุฑู…ุฌูŠุงุช.
09:33
And people can get RSS feeds --
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ูˆุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ุจุฅุณุชุทุงุนุฉ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุงู„ุญุตูˆู„ ุนู„ู‰ ุชุญุฏูŠุซุงุช ุขุฑ ุฃุณ ุฃุณ--
09:36
they can get email notifications of changes.
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ูŠู…ูƒู†ู‡ู… ุงู„ุญุตูˆู„ ุนู„ู‰ ุฑุณุงุฆู„ ุจุฑูŠุฏูŠุฉ ุญูˆู„ ุงู„ุชุบูŠูŠุฑุงุช.
09:39
And then users can set up their own personal watch list.
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ูˆุจุนุฏ ุฐู„ูƒ ุจู…ุณุชุทุงุน ุงู„ู…ุณุชุฎุฏู… ุฃู† ูŠุถุน ู‚ุงุฆู…ุชู‡ ุงู„ุฎุงุตุฉ ู„ู„ู…ุฑุงู‚ุจุฉ.
09:42
So my page is on quite a few volunteers' watch lists,
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ุฅุฐุงู‹ ูุตูุญุชูŠ ุนู„ู‰ ู‚ูˆุงุฆู… ุงู„ู‚ู„ูŠู„ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุชุทูˆุนูŠู† ู„ู„ู…ุฑุงู‚ุจุฉุŒ
09:44
because it is sometimes vandalized.
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ู„ุฃู†ู‡ุง ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุฃุญูŠุงู† ุชุชุนุฑุถ ู„ู„ุชุฎุฑูŠุจ.
09:46
And therefore, what happens is someone will notice the change very quickly,
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ูˆุนู„ูŠู‡ุŒ ู…ุง ูŠุญุฏุซ ุฃู† ุดุฎุต ู…ุง ุณูŠุชุนุฑู ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุชุบูŠูŠุฑ ุจุณุฑุนุฉ ุฌุฏุงู‹ุŒ
09:52
and then they'll just simply revert the change.
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ูˆุณูŠู‚ูˆู… ุจุจุณุงุทุฉ ุดุฏูŠุฏุฉ ุฅุฑุฌุงุน ู…ุง ุชุบูŠุฑ.
09:55
There's a "new pages feed," for example,
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09:57
so you can go to a certain page of Wikipedia
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ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุตูุญุฉ ุชุญุฏูŠุซุงุช ุฌุฏูŠุฏุฉุŒ ุนู„ู‰ ุณุจูŠู„ ุงู„ู…ุซุงู„ุŒ
09:59
and see every new page as it's created.
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ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ุงู„ุฐู‡ุงุจ ุงู„ู‰ ุตูุญุฉ ู…ุนูŠู†ุฉ ููŠ ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุง
10:01
This is really important
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ูˆุชุฑู‰ ุงู„ุนุฏูŠุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ุตูุญุงุช ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฃู†ุดุฆุช ู„ุชูˆู‡ุง.
10:02
because a lot of new pages are just garbage that has to be deleted,
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ู‡ุฐุง ู…ู‡ู… ุฌุฏุงู‹ ุจุงู„ูุนู„ุŒ ู„ุฃู† ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุตูุญุงุช ุงู„ุฌุฏูŠุฏุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชูู†ุดุฃ
ู‡ูŠ ูู‚ุท ู‚ู…ุงู…ุฉ ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ุชุญุฐูุŒ ุชุนุฑููˆู†ุŒ ุญุฑูˆู ู…ุชุชุงู„ูŠุฉ ุจุฏูˆู† ู…ุนู†ู‰.
10:06
you know, "ASDFASDF."
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10:07
But also, that's some of the most interesting and fun things,
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ู„ูƒู† ุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุตูุญุงุช ุงู„ู…ุซูŠุฑุฉ ู„ู„ุงู‡ุชู…ุงู… ูˆุงู„ุทุฑูŠูุฉ ููŠ ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุงุŒ
10:10
some of the new articles.
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10:11
People will start an article on some interesting topic,
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ุจุนุถ ุงู„ู…ูˆุถูˆุนุงุช ุงู„ุญุฏูŠุซุฉ.
ูŠุจุฏุฃ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ู…ู‚ุงู„ุง ุญูˆู„ ู…ูˆุถูˆุน ุดูŠู‘ู‚ุŒ
10:14
other people will find that intriguing
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ูˆูŠุฌุฏ ุขุฎุฑูˆู† ุฃู† ุฐู„ูƒ ูŠุซูŠุฑ ุงู„ูุถูˆู„
10:16
and jump in and help and make it much better.
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ูˆูŠู‚ูุฒูˆู† ููŠู‡ ูˆูŠุณุงุนุฏูˆู† ููŠ ุชุญุณูŠู†ู‡ ุจุตูˆุฑุฉ ุฃูุถู„.
10:18
So we do have edits by anonymous users,
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ู„ุฐุง ูู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ุชุญุฑูŠุฑ ุจูˆุงุณุทุฉ ู…ุณุชุฎุฏู…ูŠู† ู…ุฌู‡ูˆู„ูŠู†ุŒ
10:20
which is one of the most controversial and intriguing things about Wikipedia.
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ูˆุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุนุฏ ุงู„ุดุฆ ุงู„ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุฎู„ุงูุงู‹ ูˆู…ุซูŠุฑุงู‹ ู„ู„ูุถูˆู„ ุญูˆู„ ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุง.
10:24
So, Chris was able to do his change -- he didn't have to log in or anything;
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ู„ุฐุง ูู‚ุฏ ูƒุงู† ุจู…ู‚ุฏูˆุฑ ูƒุฑูŠุณ ูุนู„ ุชุบูŠูŠุฑู‡-- ู„ู… ูŠุชูˆุฌุจ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ุงู„ุฏุฎูˆู„ ุฃูˆ ุฃูŠ ุดุฆุŒ
10:27
he just went on the website and made a change.
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ุฐู‡ุจ ูู‚ุท ุงู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุน ูˆู‚ุงู… ุจุงู„ุชุบูŠูŠุฑ.
10:30
But it turns out that only about 18 percent
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10:32
of all the edits to the website
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ู„ูƒู† ุนุฑูู†ุง ุฃู†ู‡ ูู‚ุท 18 ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุงุฆุฉ ู…ู† ูƒู„ ุงู„ุชุญุฑูŠุฑุงุช ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุน
10:34
are done by anonymous users.
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10:35
And that's a really important thing to understand:
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ู‚ุงู… ุจู‡ุง ู…ุณุชุฎุฏู…ูŠู† ู…ุฌู‡ูˆู„ูŠู†.
ูˆู‡ุฐุง ุดุฆ ู…ู‡ู… ุฌุฏุงู‹ ุฅุณุชูŠุนุงุจู‡ ุจุงู„ูุนู„ุŒ
10:38
the vast majority of the edits that go on on the website
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ู‡ูˆ ุฃู† ุงู„ุฃุบู„ุจูŠุฉ ุงู„ุนุธู…ู‰ ู…ู† ุงู„ุชุญุฑูŠุฑุงุช ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุฃุชูŠ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุน
10:41
are from a very close-knit community of maybe 600 to 1,000 people
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ุชุฃุชูŠ ู…ู† ุฎู„ุงู„ ู…ุฌู…ูˆุนุฉ ุตุบูŠุฑุฉ ุฌุฏุงู‹ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุนุŒ ุฑุจู…ุง 600 ุงู„ู‰ 1000 ุดุฎุต
10:45
who are in constant communication.
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10:46
And we have over 40 IRC channels, 40 mailing lists.
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ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ู‡ู… ููŠ ุฅุชุตุงู„ ู…ุณุชู…ุฑ.
ูˆู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ู…ุง ูŠุฒูŠุฏ ุนู„ู‰ 40 ู‚ู†ุงุฉ ุขูŠ ุขุฑ ุณูŠุŒ 40 ู‚ุงุฆู…ุฉ ุจุฑูŠุฏูŠุฉ.
10:49
All these people know each other.
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10:50
They communicate. We have off-line meetings.
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ูƒู„ ู‡ุคู„ุงุก ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ูŠุนุฑููˆู† ุจุนุถู‡ู… ุงู„ุจุนุถ. ูŠุชูˆุงุตู„ูˆู†ุŒ ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ู„ู‚ุงุกุงุช ุฎุงุฑุฌ ุงู„ุฅู†ุชุฑู†ุช.
10:53
These are the people who are doing the bulk of the site,
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ู‡ุคู„ุงุก ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ู‡ู… ู…ู† ูŠู‚ูˆู…ูˆู† ุจุงู„ุฌุฒุก ุงู„ุฃูƒุจุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุนุŒ
10:55
and they are, in a sense, semi-professionals at what they're doing.
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ูˆู‡ู…ุŒ ู†ูˆุนุงู‹ ู…ุงุŒ ุดุจู‡ ู…ุญุชุฑููŠู† ููŠ ู…ุง ูŠูุนู„ูˆู†ู‡ุŒ
11:00
The standards we set for ourselves
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ูˆุงู„ู…ุนูŠุงุฑ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูˆุถุนู†ุงู‡ ู„ุฃู†ูุณู†ุง ู…ุณุงูˆู‹ ุฃูˆ ูŠููˆู‚
11:03
are equal to or higher than professional standards of quality.
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ุงู„ู…ุนุงูŠูŠุฑ ุงู„ุงุญุชุฑุงููŠุฉ ู„ู„ุฌูˆุฏุฉ.
11:06
We don't always meet those standards, but that's what we're striving for.
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ู„ุง ู†ุตู„ ุฏุงุฆู…ุงู‹ ู„ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ู…ุนุงูŠูŠุฑุŒ
11:09
And so that tight community is who really cares for the site,
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ู„ูƒู† ุฐู„ูƒ ู…ุง ู†ุณุนู‰ ุฅู„ูŠู‡.
ูˆุนู„ูŠู‡ ูุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุน ุงู„ุตุบูŠุฑ ู‡ูˆ ู…ุง ูŠู‡ุชู… ุจุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุนุŒ
11:12
and these are some of the smartest people I've ever met.
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ูˆู‡ุคู„ุงุก ู‡ู… ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ุฅู„ุชู‚ูŠุชู‡ู… ุฐูƒุงุกู‹.
11:15
It's my job to say that, but it's actually true.
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ุจุงู„ุทุจุนุŒ ู…ู† ูˆุงุฌุจูŠ ู‚ูˆู„ ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ู„ูƒู†ู‡ู… ุจุงู„ูุนู„ ู‡ูƒุฐุง.
11:17
The type of people who were drawn to writing an encyclopedia for fun
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ู†ูˆุนูŠุฉ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ุงู†ุฌุฐุจูˆุง ู„ูƒุชุงุจุฉ ู…ูˆุณูˆุนุฉ ู…ู† ุฃุฌู„ ุงู„ู…ุฑุญ
11:21
tend to be pretty smart people.
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ูŠู…ูŠู„ูˆู† ู„ุฃู† ูŠูƒูˆู†ูˆุง ุฃู†ุงุณ ุฃุฐูƒูŠุงุก.
11:23
The tools and the software: there's lots of tools that allow us --
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ุงู„ุฃุฏูˆุงุช ูˆุงู„ุจุฑู…ุฌูŠุงุช: ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุงู„ุนุฏูŠุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃุฏูˆุงุช ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุชูŠุญ ู„ู†ุง--
11:27
allow us, meaning the community --
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ุชุชูŠุญ ู„ู†ุงุŒ ุฃุนู†ูŠ ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุน-- ู…ุฑุงู‚ุจุฉ ุฃู†ูุณู†ุง ูˆู…ุฑุงู‚ุจุฉ ูƒู„ ุงู„ุนู…ู„.
11:28
to self-monitor and to monitor all the work.
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11:30
This is an example of a page history on "flat Earth,"
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ู‡ุฐุง ู…ุซุงู„ ู„ุตูุญุฉ ุนู† ุงู„ุชุงุฑูŠุฎ ุญูˆู„ ุฃู† ุงู„ุฃุฑุถ ู…ุณุทุญุฉุŒ
11:33
and you can see some changes that were made.
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ูˆูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ุฑุคูŠุฉ ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุชุบูŠุฑุงุช ุงู„ุชูŠ ุทุฑุฃุช.
11:35
What's nice about this page is you can immediately take a look at this
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ุงู„ุดุฆ ุงู„ุฌูŠุฏ ุญูˆู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุตุญูุฉ ู‡ูˆ ุฃู†ู‡ ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ููŠ ุงู„ุญุงู„ ุฅู„ู‚ุงุก ู†ุธุฑุฉ ุนู„ูŠู‡ุง
11:38
and see, "OK, I understand now."
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ูˆุชู‚ูˆู„ุŒ ุฃูˆู‡ ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ ูู‡ู…ุช ุงู„ุขู†.
11:40
When somebody goes and looks at --
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ุญูŠู†ู…ุง ูŠุฐู‡ุจ ุดุฎุต ู…ุง ูˆูŠู†ุธุฑ ุนู„ู‰ -- ูŠุฑู‰ ุฃู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุดุฎุต ู…ุงุŒ
11:42
they see that someone, an anonymous IP number,
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11:44
made an edit to my page.
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ุนู†ูˆุงู† ุฅู†ุชุฑู†ุช ู…ุฌู‡ูˆู„ุŒ ู‚ุงู… ุจุชุญุฑูŠุฑ ุตูุญุชูŠ--
11:45
That sounds suspicious. Who is this person?
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ูˆู‡ุฐุง ูŠุจุฏูˆ ู…ุซูŠุฑุงู‹ ู„ู„ุดูƒ-- ู…ู† ู‡ูˆ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุดุฎุตุŸ ูŠู†ุธุฑ ุนู„ูŠู‡ุง ุดุฎุต ู…ุงุŒ
11:47
Somebody looks at it --
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11:49
they can immediately see highlighted in red
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ุจู…ุณุชุทุงุนู‡ู… ููŠ ุงู„ุญุงู„ ุฑุคูŠุฉ ุฃู„ูˆุงู† ุญู…ุฑุงุก ุชุธู„ู„ ูƒู„ ุงู„ุชุบูŠุฑุงุช ุงู„ุชูŠ ุญุตู„ุชุŒ
11:51
all of the changes that took place --
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11:53
to see, OK, well, these words have changed, things like this.
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ู„ุชุฑู‰ุŒ ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ูƒู„ู…ุงุช ุชู… ุชุบูŠูŠุฑู‡ุงุŒ ุฃุดูŠุงุก ู…ู† ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู‚ุจูŠู„.
11:56
So that's one tool that we can use
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ุชู„ูƒ ุฅุญุฏู‰ ุงู„ุฃุฏูˆุงุช ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุฅุณุชุฎุฏุงู…ู‡ุง ู„ู…ุฑุงู‚ุจุฉ ุชุงุฑูŠุฎ ุฃูŠ ุตูุญุฉ ุจุณุฑุนุฉ ูƒุจูŠุฑุฉ.
11:58
to very quickly monitor the history of a page.
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12:01
Another thing that we do within the community
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ุดุฆ ุขุฎุฑ ู†ูุนู„ู‡ ุฏุงุฎู„ ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุน
12:03
is we leave everything very open-ended.
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ู‡ูˆ ุฃู†ู†ุง ู†ุชุฑูƒ ูƒู„ ุดุฆ ู…ูุชูˆุญ ู„ู„ุบุงูŠุฉ.
12:07
Most of the social rules and the methods of work
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ู…ุนุธู… ุงู„ู‚ูˆุงู†ูŠู† ุงู„ุฅุฌุชู…ุงุนูŠุฉ ูˆุทุฑู‚ ุงู„ุนู…ู„
12:10
are left completely open-ended in the software.
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ุชุชุฑูƒ ู…ูุชูˆุญุฉ ูƒู„ูŠุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ุจุฑู†ุงู…ุฌ
12:13
All of that stuff is just on Wiki pages.
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ูƒู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก ู…ูˆุฌูˆุฏุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุตูุญุงุช ุงู„ูˆูŠูƒูŠ.
12:15
And so there's nothing in the software that enforces the rules.
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ูˆู„ุฐุง ูู„ุง ูŠูˆุฌุฏ ุดุฆ ููŠ ุงู„ุจุฑู…ุฌูŠุงุช ุชุฌุจุฑ ุนู„ู‰ ุชุทุจูŠู‚ ุงู„ู‚ูˆุงู†ูŠู†.
12:18
The example I've got up here is the Votes for Deletion page.
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ุงู„ู…ุซุงู„ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ู„ุฏูŠ ู‡ู†ุง ูŠุฏูˆุฑ ุญูˆู„ ุงู„ุชุตูˆูŠุช ู„ุญุฐู ุตูุญุฉ.
12:22
So, I mentioned earlier, people type "ASDFASDF" --
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ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ ู„ู‚ุฏ ุฐูƒุฑุช ุจุงูƒุฑุงู‹ุŒ ูŠุญุงูˆู„ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุทุจุงุนุฉ ู…ุง ู„ูŠุณ ู„ู‡ ู…ุนู†ู‰--
12:24
it needs to be deleted.
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12:26
Cases like that, the administrators just delete it.
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ู…ู…ุง ูŠุชูˆุฌุจ ุญุฐูู‡. ููŠ ุญุงู„ุงุช ู…ุซู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ุŒ ูŠู‚ูˆู… ุงู„ู…ุฏุฑุงุก ุจุญุฐูู‡ุง ูู‚ุท.
12:28
There's no reason to have a big argument about it.
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ู„ุง ูŠูˆุฌุฏ ุณุจุจ ู„ุฅุซุงุฑุฉ ุฌุฏู„ ูƒุจูŠุฑ ุญูˆู„ ุฐู„ูƒ.
12:30
But you can imagine there's a lot of other areas where the question is,
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ู„ูƒู† ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ุชุฎูŠู„ ุฃู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุฌุงู„ุงุช ุญูŠุซ ูŠูƒูˆู† ุงู„ุณุคุงู„ ู‡ูˆุŒ
12:34
is this notable enough to go in an encyclopedia?
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ู‡ู„ ู‡ุฐุง ุฌูŠุฏ ุจู…ุง ูŠูƒููŠ ู„ูŠูƒูˆู† ููŠ ุงู„ู…ูˆุณูˆุนุฉุŸ
12:36
Is the information verifiable? Is it a hoax? Is it true? Is it what?
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ู‡ู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ุนู„ูˆู…ุงุช ูŠู…ูƒู† ุงู„ุชุญู‚ู‚ ู…ู†ู‡ุงุŸ ู‡ู„ ู‡ูŠ ุฎุฏุงุนุŸ ู…ุง ู‡ูŠุŸ
12:40
So we needed a social method for figuring out the answer to this.
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ู„ุฐุง ูู‚ุฏ ุฃุญุชุฌู†ุง ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุฅุฌุชู…ุงุนูŠุฉ ู„ู…ุนุฑูุฉ ุงู„ุฅุฌุงุจุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐุง.
12:43
And so the method that arose organically within the community
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ูˆู„ุฐุง ูู‚ุฏ ู†ุดุฃุช ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุนุถูˆูŠุงู‹ ุฏุงุฎู„ ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุน
12:46
is the Votes For Deletion page.
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12:47
And in the particular example we have here,
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ูˆู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุชุตูˆูŠุช ู…ู† ุฃุฌู„ ุญุฐู ุตูุญุฉ.
12:49
it's a film, "Twisted Issues,"
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ูˆููŠ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ุซุงู„ ุชุญุฏูŠุฏุงู‹ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ู‡ู†ุงุŒ ู‡ุฐุง ููŠู„ู…ุŒ
12:51
and the first person says,
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"ู…ูˆุถูˆุนุงุช ู…ุชุบูŠุฑุฉุŒ" ูˆูŠู‚ูˆู„ ุงู„ุดุฎุต ุงู„ุขูˆู„ุŒ
12:52
"Now this is supposedly a film. It fails the Google test miserably."
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" ู‡ุฐุง ูŠูุชุฑุถ ุงู„ุขู† ุฃู†ู‡ ููŠู„ู…. ู„ู‚ุฏ ูุดู„ ููŠ ุฅุฎุชุจุงุฑ ู‚ูˆู‚ู„ ูุดู„ุงู‹ ุฐุฑูŠุนุงู‹."
12:56
The Google test is you look in Google and see if it's there,
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ุฅุฎุชุจุงุฑ ู‚ูˆู‚ู„ ู‡ูˆุŒ ุชู†ุธุฑ ุงู„ู‰ ู‚ูˆู‚ู„ ูˆุชุฑู‰ ุฅุฐุง ูƒุงู† ู…ูˆุฌูˆุฏุงู‹ ู‡ู†ุงูƒุŒ
12:59
because if something's not even in Google, it probably doesn't exist at all.
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ู„ุฃู†ู‡ ุฅุฐุง ูƒุงู† ุดูŠุฆุงู‹ ุบูŠุฑ ู…ูˆุฌูˆุฏ ุญุชู‰ ููŠ ู‚ูˆู‚ู„ุŒ ูู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุญุชู…ู„ ุนุฏู… ูˆุฌูˆุฏู‡ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃุณุงุณ.
13:03
It's not a perfect rule,
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13:04
but it's a nice starting point for quick research.
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ุฅู†ู‡ุง ู„ูŠุณุช ู‚ุงุนุฏุฉ ุฐู‡ุจูŠุฉุŒ ู„ูƒู†ู‡ุง ุจุฏุงูŠุฉ ุฌูŠุฏุฉ ู„ู„ุจุญุซ ุงู„ุณุฑูŠุน.
13:08
So somebody says, "Delete it, please. Delete it -- it's not notable."
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ูˆูŠู‚ูˆู„ ุดุฎุต ู…ุงุŒ " ุงุญุฐูู‡ุŒ ุฑุฌุงุกู‹. ุงุญุฐูู‡-- ุฅู†ู‡ ู„ูŠุณ ู…ู„ุญูˆุธุงู‹."
13:11
And then somebody says, "Wait, I found it. I found it in a book,
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ูˆุนู†ุฏู‡ุง ูŠู‚ูˆู„ ุดุฎุต ู…ุงุŒ " ุงู†ุชุธุฑ ุงู†ุชุธุฑุŒ ู„ู‚ุฏ ูˆุฌุฏุชู‡.
13:14
'Film Threat Video Guide: the 20 Underground Films You Must See.'"
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ูˆุฌุฏุชู‡ ููŠ ูƒุชุงุจุŒ ุฏู„ูŠู„ ููŠู„ู… ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ :
ุงู„ุฃูู„ุงู… ุงู„ู…ุบู…ูˆุฑุฉ ุงู„ุนุดุฑูŠู† ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠุชูˆุฌุจ ุนู„ูŠูƒ ู…ุดุงู‡ุฏุชู‡ุง."
13:17
So the next persons says, "Clean it up."
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ุฃูˆู‡ุŒ ุญุณู†ุงู‹. ุซู… ูŠู‚ูˆู„ ุงู„ุดุฎุต ุงู„ุชุงู„ูŠุŒ " ุงุญุฐูู‡"
13:19
Somebody says, "I've found it on IMDB. Keep, keep, keep."
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ูŠู‚ูˆู„ ุดุฎุต ุขุฎุฑุŒ " ู„ู‚ุฏ ูˆุฌุฏุชู‡ ููŠ ู‚ุงุนุฏุฉ ุจูŠุงู†ุงุช ุงู„ุฃูู„ุงู…. ุงุชุฑูƒู‡ุŒ ุงุชุฑูƒู‡ุŒ ุงุชุฑูƒู‡."
13:23
And what's interesting about this is that the software is --
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ูˆุงู„ุดุฆ ุงู„ู…ุซูŠุฑ ุญูˆู„ ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุฃู† ุงู„ุจุฑู†ุงู…ุฌ--
13:26
these votes are just text typed into a page.
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ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุชุตูˆูŠุชุงุช ู…ุง ู‡ูŠ ุฅู„ุง ู†ุตูˆุต ูƒุชุจุช ููŠ ุตูุญุฉ
13:29
This is not really a vote so much as it is a dialogue.
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ู‡ุฐุง ู„ูŠุณ ุชุตูˆูŠุชุงู‹ ุนู„ู‰ ู‚ุฏุฑ ุฃู†ู‡ ู†ู‚ุงุด.
13:33
Now it is true that at the end of the day,
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ุงู„ุขู† ู…ู† ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ูŠ ุฃู†ู‡ ุจู†ู‡ุงูŠุฉ ุงู„ูŠูˆู…
13:36
an administrator can go through here and take a look at this and say,
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ูŠู…ูƒู† ู„ู„ู…ุฏูŠุฑ ุฃู† ูŠูˆุงุตู„ ู‡ู†ุง ูˆูŠู„ู‚ูŠ ู†ุธุฑุฉ ููŠ ู‡ุฐุง ูˆูŠู‚ูˆู„ุŒ
13:39
"OK, 18 deletes, two keeps: we'll delete it."
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ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ ุงู„ุฃุตูˆุงุช 18 ุญุฐูุŒ ุฃุซู†ูŠู† ุฅุจู‚ุงุกุŒ ู‡ุฐุง ุณู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจุญุฐูู‡.
13:42
But in other cases, this could be 18 deletes and two keeps,
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ู„ูƒู† ููŠ ุฃุญูˆุงู„ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ุŒ ู‚ุฏ ุชูƒูˆู† ุงู„ุฃุตูˆุงุช 18 ุญุฐู ูˆุฃุซู†ูŠู† ุฅุจู‚ุงุกุŒ ู‡ุฐุง ุณู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจุชุฑูƒู‡ุŒ
13:46
and we would keep it, because if those last two keeps say,
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13:48
"Wait a minute. Nobody else saw this but I found it in a book,
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ู„ุฃู†ู‡ ุงุฐุง ูƒุงู† ู‡ุฐูŠู† ุงู„ุตูˆุชูŠู† ุจุงู„ุฅุจู‚ุงุก ูŠู‚ูˆู„ูˆู† " ุงู†ุชุธุฑ ู„ุญุธุฉ!"
"ู„ู… ูŠุฑู‡ ุดุฎุต ุขุฎุฑ ู„ูƒู†ูŠ ูˆุฌุฏุชู‡ ููŠ ูƒุชุงุจุŒ"
13:51
and I found a link to a page that describes it,
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"ูˆูˆุฌุฏุช ุฑุงุจุท ู„ุตูุญุฉ ุชุตูู‡ุŒ ูˆุณุฃู‚ูˆู… ุจุชุตุญูŠุญู‡ ุบุฏุงู‹ุŒ"
13:53
and I'm going to clean it up tomorrow, so please don't delete it,"
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"ู„ุฐุง ูุฑุฌุงุก ู„ุง ุชุญุฐููˆู‡ุŒ " ุนู†ุฏู‡ุง ุณูŠู†ุฌูˆ.
13:57
then it would survive.
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13:58
And it also matters who the people are who are voting.
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ูˆู‡ุฐุง ูŠู‡ู… ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ูŠู‚ูˆู…ูˆู† ุจุงู„ุชุตูˆูŠุช.
14:00
Like I say, it's a tight-knit community.
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ูˆูƒู…ุง ุฃู‚ูˆู„ุŒ ุฅู†ู‡ ู…ุฌุชู…ุน ุถูŠู‚ ู…ุชุฑุงุจุท.
14:02
Down here at the bottom, "Keep, real movie," RickK.
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ู‡ู†ุง ููŠ ุงู„ุฃุณูู„ ุŒ "ุฃุชุฑูƒู‡ุŒ ููŠู„ู… ุญู‚ูŠู‚ูŠุŒ" ุฑูŠูƒ ูƒุงูŠ.
14:05
RickK is a very famous Wikipedian who does an enormous amount of work
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ุฑูŠูƒ ูƒุงูŠ ู…ู† ุฃุนุถุงุก ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุง ุงู„ู…ุดู‡ูˆุฑูŠู†
14:08
with vandalism, hoaxes and votes for deletion.
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ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูุนู„ ู…ุฌู‡ูˆุฏ ุฌุจุงุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุนู…ู„ ู…ุน ุงู„ุชุฎุฑูŠุจุŒ ูˆุงู„ุฎุฏุงุน
14:11
His voice carries a lot of weight within the community
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ูˆุงู„ุชุตูˆูŠุช ู…ู† ุฃุฌู„ ุงู„ุญุฐู.
ูŠุญู…ู„ ุตูˆุชู‡ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ูˆุฒู† ุฏุงุฎู„ ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุน
14:14
because he knows what he's doing.
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ู„ุฃู†ู‡ ูŠุนุฑู ู…ุง ูŠูุนู„ู‡.
14:17
So how is all this governed?
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ุฅุฐุงู‹ ูƒูŠู ูŠูุญูƒู… ูƒู„ ู‡ุฐุงุŸ
14:19
People really want to know about administrators, things like that.
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ูŠุฑูŠุฏ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉู‹ ู…ุนุฑูุฉ ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ ุงู„ู…ุฏุฑุงุกุŒ ุฃุดูŠุงุก ู…ู† ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู‚ุจูŠู„.
14:22
So the Wikipedia governance model, the governance of the community,
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ุฅุฐุงู‹ ู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ู†ู…ูˆุฐุฌ ุงู„ุญูƒู… ููŠ ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุงุŒ ุงู„ุญูƒู… ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุนุŒ
14:26
is a very confusing, but workable mix of consensus --
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ุฅู†ู‡ ู…ูุฑุจูƒ ุฌุฏุงู‹ุŒ ู„ูƒู†ู‡ ุฎู„ูŠุท ูุนู‘ุงู„ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฅุฌู…ุงุน--
14:30
meaning we try not to vote on the content of articles,
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ูŠุนู†ูŠ ุฃู†ู†ุง ู†ุญุงูˆู„ ุงู„ุญุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ุชุตูˆูŠุช ุนู„ู‰ ู…ุญุชูˆูŠุงุช ุงู„ู…ู‚ุงู„ุงุชุŒ
14:33
because the majority view is not necessarily neutral --
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ู„ุฃู† ุฑุฃูŠ ุงู„ุบุงู„ุจูŠุฉ ู„ูŠุณ ุจุงู„ุถุฑูˆุฑุฉ ู…ุญุงูŠุฏ.
14:37
some amount of democracy --
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14:38
all of the administrators --
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ุจุนุถ ุงู„ู‚ุฏุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ูˆู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉุŒ ุฌู…ูŠุน ุงู„ู…ุฏุฑุงุก--
14:40
these are the people who have the ability to delete pages.
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ู„ุฏู‰ ู‡ุคู„ุงุก ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุงู„ู…ู‚ุฏุฑุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุญุฐู ุงู„ุตูุญุงุชุŒ
14:42
That doesn't mean that they have the right to delete pages.
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ู„ุง ูŠุนู†ูŠ ู‡ุฐุง ุฃู† ู„ุฏูŠู‡ู… ุงู„ุญู‚ ููŠ ุญุฐู ุงู„ุตูุญุงุชุŒ
14:45
They still have to follow all the rules -- but they're elected by the community.
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ู…ุง ูŠุฒุงู„ ุนู„ูŠู‡ู… ุชุทุจูŠู‚ ุงู„ู‚ูˆุงู†ูŠู†-- ู„ูƒู†ู‡ู… ู…ู†ุชุฎุจูˆู†ุŒ
ูŠู‚ูˆู… ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุน ุจุฅู†ุชุฎุงุจู‡ู…. ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุฃุญูŠุงู† ุฃู†ุงุณ--
14:49
Sometimes people -- random trolls on the Internet --
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ุงู„ู…ุชุตูŠุฏูˆู† ุนุดูˆุงุฆูŠุงู‹ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฅู†ุชุฑู†ุช-- ูŠุชู‡ู…ูˆู†ู†ูŠ ุจุฅุฎุชูŠุงุฑ ุงู„ู…ุฏุฑุงุก
14:51
like to accuse me of handpicking the administrators
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14:54
to bias the content of the encyclopedia.
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ู„ุชุญูŠูŠุฒ ู…ุญุชูˆูŠุงุช ุงู„ู…ูˆุณูˆุนุฉ.
14:56
I always laugh at this, because I have no idea how they're elected, actually.
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ุฏุงุฆู…ุงู‹ ู…ุง ุฃุถุญูƒ ุนู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐุงุŒ ู„ุฃู†ู‡ ู„ุง ุชูˆุฌุฏ ู„ุฏูŠ ููƒุฑุฉ ุนู† ูƒูŠููŠุฉ ุฅู†ุชุฎุงุจู‡ู…ุŒ ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน.
15:00
There's a certain amount of aristocracy.
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ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู‚ุฏุฑ ู…ุญุฏุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃุฑุณุชู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ.
15:02
You got a hint of that when I mentioned, like,
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ูˆู„ุฐุง ูู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ููƒุฑุฉ ุนู† ุฐู„ูƒ ู…ุซู„ ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุฐูƒุฑุช
15:04
RickK's voice would carry a lot more weight
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ุฃู† ุตูˆุช ุฑูŠูƒ ูƒุงูŠ ุณูŠูƒูˆู† ู„ุฏูŠู‡ ูˆุฒู† ุฃูƒุจุฑ ุนู† ุดุฎุต ุขุฎุฑ ู„ุง ุฃุนุฑูู‡.
15:06
than someone we don't know.
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15:07
I give this talk sometimes with Angela,
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ุฃู‚ุฏู… ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุญุฏูŠุซ ู…ุน ุฃู†ุฌู„ุงุŒ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชู… ุฅู†ุชุฎุงุจู‡ุง ู…ุฌุฏุฏุงู‹
15:10
who was just re-elected to the board from the community --
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ู„ู„ู…ุฌู„ุณ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุน -- ู„ู…ุฌู„ุณ ุงู„ู…ุคุณุณูŠู†ุŒ
15:13
to the Board of the Foundation,
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15:14
with more than twice the votes of the person who didn't make it.
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ุจุฃูƒุซุฑ ู…ู† ุถุนู ุฃุตูˆุงุช ุงู„ุดุฎุต ุงู„ุฐูŠ ู„ู… ูŠูู†ุชุฎุจ.
15:17
And I always embarrass her because I say,
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ูˆุฏุงุฆู…ุงู‹ ู…ุง ุฃุญุฑุฌู‡ุง ู„ุฃู†ู†ูŠ ุฃู‚ูˆู„ุŒ ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ ุฃู†ุฌู„ุงุŒ ุนู„ู‰ ุณุจูŠู„ ุงู„ู…ุซุงู„ุŒ
15:20
"Well, Angela, for example,
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15:22
could get away with doing absolutely anything within Wikipedia,
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ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ุชูู„ุช ู…ู† ุนู…ู„ ุฃูŠ ุดุฆ ุฏุงุฎู„ ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุงุŒ
15:25
because she's so admired and so powerful."
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ู„ุฃู†ู‡ุง ู…ุญุชุฑู…ุฉ ุฌุฏุงู‹ ูˆู‚ูˆูŠุฉ.
15:27
But the irony is, of course, that Angela can do this because she's the one person
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ู„ูƒู† ุงู„ู…ูุงุฑู‚ุฉ ู‡ูŠุŒ ุจุงู„ุทุจุนุŒ ุฃู† ุฃู†ุฌู„ุง ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ุชูุนู„ ู‡ุฐุง ู„ุฃู†ู‡ุง ุงู„ุดุฎุต ุงู„ูˆุญูŠุฏ
15:31
who you know would never, ever break any rules of Wikipedia.
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ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุชุนุฑู ุฃู†ู‡ ู„ู… ูˆู„ู† ูŠุฎุงู„ู ุฃูŠ ู‚ุงุนุฏุฉ ู„ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุง.
15:34
And I also like to say she's the only person
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ูˆุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ุฃูˆุฏ ุงู„ู‚ูˆู„ ุฃู†ู‡ุง ุงู„ุดุฎุต ุงู„ูˆุญูŠุฏ
15:36
who actually knows all the rules of Wikipedia, so ...
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ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุนุฑู ุญู‚ุงู‹ ู‚ูˆุงุนุฏ ุงู„ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุงุŒ ุฃูŠุถุง...
15:39
And then there's monarchy,
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15:41
and that's my role on the community, so ...
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ูˆุจุนุฏ ุฐู„ูƒ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุงู„ู†ุธุงู… ุงู„ู…ู„ูƒูŠ ูˆุฐู„ูƒ ู‡ูˆ ุฏูˆุฑูŠ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุนุŒ ุฃูŠุถุง...
15:43
(Laughter)
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15:45
I was describing this in Berlin once,
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ูƒู†ุช ุฃุดุฑุญ ุฐู„ูƒ ุฐุงุช ู…ุฑุฉ ููŠ ุจุฑู„ูŠู† ูˆููŠ ุงู„ูŠูˆู… ุงู„ุชุงู„ูŠ ููŠ ุงู„ุตุญู
15:48
and the next day in the newspaper the headline said,
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15:51
"I am the Queen of England."
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ูƒุงู†ุช ุงู„ุนู†ุงูˆูŠู† ุงู„ุฑุฆูŠุณูŠุฉ ุŒ "ุฃู†ุง ู…ู„ูƒุฉ ุฅู†ุฌู„ุชุฑุง."
15:52
(Laughter)
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15:53
And that's not exactly what I said, but --
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ูˆู„ู… ูŠูƒู† ุฐู„ูƒ ู…ุง ู‚ู„ุชู‡ ุจุงู„ุถุจุทุŒ ู„ูƒู†--
15:56
(Laughter)
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15:57
the point is my role in the community --
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ุงู„ููƒุฑุฉ ู‡ูŠ ุฃู† ุฏูˆุฑูŠ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุน--
16:00
Within the free software world, there's been a long-standing tradition
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ููŠ ุฅุทุงุฑ ุนุงู„ู… ุงู„ุจุฑู…ุฌูŠุงุช ุงู„ู…ุฌุงู†ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุทูˆูŠู„--
ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุชู‚ู„ูŠุฏ ู‚ุฏูŠู… ู„ู†ู…ูˆุฐุฌ ุงู„ุฏูŠูƒุชุงุชูˆุฑ ุงู„ุทูŠุจ .
16:05
of the "benevolent dictator" model.
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16:08
So if you look at most of the major free software projects,
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ู„ุฐุง ุฅุฐุง ุฃู„ู‚ูŠุช ู†ุธุฑุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ู…ุดุงุฑูŠุน ุงู„ุจุฑู…ุฌูŠุงุช ุงู„ุฑุฆูŠุณูŠุฉ ุงู„ู…ุฌุงู†ุจูŠุฉุŒ
16:11
they have one single person in charge
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16:12
who everyone agrees is the benevolent dictator.
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ูุฅู† ู„ุฏูŠู‡ุง ุดุฎุต ูˆุงุญุฏ ู…ุณุฆูˆู„
ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุชูู‚ ุงู„ุฌู…ูŠุน ุฃู†ู‡ ุงู„ุฏูŠูƒุชุงุชูˆุฑ ุงู„ุทูŠุจ.
16:16
Well, I don't like the term "benevolent dictator,"
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ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ ุฃู†ุง ู„ุง ุฃุญุจ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ุตุทู„ุญ ุงู„ุฏูŠูƒุชุงุชูˆุฑ ุงู„ุทูŠุจุŒ
16:18
and I don't think that it's my job or my role in the world of ideas
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ูˆู„ุง ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู†ู‡ ุนู…ู„ูŠ ุฃูˆ ุฏูˆุฑูŠ ููŠ ุนุงู„ู… ุงู„ุฃููƒุงุฑ
16:22
to be the dictator of the future of all human knowledge
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ุฃู† ุฃูƒูˆู† ุฏูŠูƒุชุงุชูˆุฑุงู‹ ู„ู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„ ูƒู„ ุงู„ู…ุนุฑูุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุณุงู†ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠูƒุชุจู‡ุง ุงู„ุนุงู„ู….
16:26
compiled by the world.
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16:27
It just isn't appropriate.
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ุฐู„ูƒ ุบูŠุฑ ุตุญูŠุญ ุจุงู„ู…ุฑุฉ.
16:29
But there is a need still for a certain amount of monarchy,
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ู„ูƒู† ู…ุง ุชุฒุงู„ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุญูˆุฌุฉ ู„ู‚ุฏุฑ ู…ุนูŠู† ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ู„ูƒูŠุฉุŒ
16:31
a certain amount of --
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16:33
sometimes we have to make a decision
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ู‚ุฏุฑ ู…ุญุฏุฏ -- ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุฃุญูŠุงู† ูŠุชูˆุฌุจ ุนู„ูŠู†ุง ุฃุฎุฐ ู‚ุฑุงุฑุŒ
16:35
and we don't want to get bogged down too heavily
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ูˆู„ุง ู†ุฑูŠุฏ ุฃู† ู†ุชูˆุฑุท ุจุดูƒู„ ูƒุจูŠุฑ
16:37
in formal decision-making processes.
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ููŠ ุนู…ู„ูŠุงุช ุฃุฎุฐ ู‚ุฑุงุฑ ุจุตูˆุฑุฉ ุฑุณู…ูŠุฉ.
16:40
So as an example of how this can be important:
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ู„ุฐุง ูุนู„ู‰ ุณุจูŠู„ ุงู„ู…ุซุงู„ ุญูˆู„ ู„ู…ุงุฐุง ูƒุงู† ู‡ุฐุง-
16:45
we recently had a situation where a neo-Nazi website discovered Wikipedia,
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ุฃูˆ ูƒูŠู ุชูƒูˆู† ุฃู‡ู…ูŠุฉ ู‡ุฐุงุŒ
ู…ุคุฎุฑุงู‹ ูƒุงู†ุช ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ุญุงู„ุฉุŒ ุญูŠุซ ุงูƒุชุดู ู…ูˆู‚ุน ุงู„ู†ุงุฒูŠูˆู† ุงู„ุฌุฏุฏ ุงู„ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุงุŒ
16:49
and they said, "Oh, well, this is horrible,
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ูˆู‚ุงู„ูˆุงุŒ " ุฃูˆู‡ ุญุณู†ุงุŒ ู‡ุฐุง ูุธูŠุนุŒ ู‡ุฐุง ู…ูˆู‚ุน ู„ู„ู…ุคุงู…ุฑุฉ ุงู„ูŠู‡ูˆุฏูŠุฉ
16:52
this Jewish conspiracy of a website,
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16:54
and we're going to get certain articles deleted that we don't like.
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ูˆูŠุฌุจ ุนู„ูŠู†ุง ุชุญุฏูŠุฏ ุจุนุถ ุงู„ู…ู‚ุงู„ุงุช ุงู„ุชูŠ ู„ุง ู†ุญุจู‡ุง ู„ุชูุญุฐู.
16:57
And we see they have a voting process, so we're going to send --
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ูˆู†ุญู† ู†ุฑู‰ ุฃู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุนู…ู„ูŠุฉ ุชุตูˆูŠุชุŒ ุณู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจุฅุฑุณุงู„--
17:00
we have 40,000 members and we're going to send them over
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ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง 40 ุงู„ู ุนุถูˆ ุณู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจุฅุฑุณุงู„ู‡ู… ู‡ู†ุงูƒ
17:03
and they're all going to vote and get these pages deleted."
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ูˆุณูŠู‚ูˆู…ูˆุง ุฌู…ูŠุนุงู‹ ุจุงู„ุชุตูˆูŠุช ู„ุญุฐู ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุตูุญุงุช."
17:05
Well, they managed to get 18 people to show up.
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ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ ู„ู‚ุฏ ุฎุทุทูˆุง ู„ุฃู† ูŠู‚ูˆู… 18 ุดุฎุตุงู‹ ุจุงู„ู…ุดุงุฑูƒุฉ.
17:08
That's neo-Nazi math for you.
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ู‡ุฐู‡ ุญุณุงุจุงุช ุงู„ู†ุงุฒูŠูˆู† ุงู„ุฌุฏุฏ ู„ูƒู….
17:10
They always think they've got 40,000 members when they've got 18.
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ุฏุงุฆู…ุงู‹ ู…ุง ูŠุธู†ูˆู† ุฃู† ู„ุฏูŠู‡ู… 40 ุฃู„ู ุนุถูˆ ุจูŠู†ู…ุง ู„ุฏูŠู‡ู… 18 ุนุถูˆุงู‹.
17:14
But they managed to get 18 people to come and vote in a fairly absurd way
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ู„ูƒู†ู‡ู… ุฎุทุทูˆุง ู„ุฏูุน 18 ุดุฎุตุงู‹ ู„ู„ุชุตูˆูŠุช ุจุตูˆุฑุฉ ุณุฎูŠูุฉ ุฅู„ู‰ ุญุฏ ู…ุง
17:17
to delete a perfectly valid article.
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17:19
Of course, the vote ended up being about 85 to 18,
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ู„ุญุฐู ู…ู‚ุงู„ุงุช ุญู‚ูŠู‚ูŠุฉ ู…ู…ุชุงุฒุฉ.
ุจุงู„ุทุจุนุŒ ุงู†ุชู‡ู‰ ุงู„ุชุตูˆูŠุช ุจ 85 ุงู„ู‰ 18ุŒ
17:22
so there was no real danger to our democratic processes.
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ู„ุฐุง ู„ู… ูŠูƒู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุฎุทุฑ ุญู‚ูŠู‚ูŠ ุนู„ู‰ ุนู…ู„ูŠุชู†ุง ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ูˆู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ.
17:26
On the other hand, people said, "But what are we going to do?
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ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฌุงู†ุจ ุงู„ุขุฎุฑุŒ ู‚ุงู„ ุงู„ู†ุงุณุŒ " ู„ูƒู† ู…ุงุฐุง ุณุชูุนู„ูˆู†ุŸ
17:29
I mean, this could happen.
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17:30
What if some group gets really seriously organized
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ุฃุนู†ูŠุŒ ู‚ุฏ ูŠุญุฏุซ ู‡ุฐุง ูˆู…ุงุฐุง ุงุฐุง ู‚ุงู…ุช ู…ุฌู…ูˆุนุฉ ู…ู†ุธู…ุฉ ุจุงู„ูุนู„
17:32
and comes in and wants to vote?"
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ูˆุฌุงุกุช ูˆุทู„ุจุช ุงู„ุชุตูˆูŠุชุŸ"
17:35
Then I said, "Well, fuck it, we'll just change the rules."
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ุนู†ุฏู‡ุง ุฃู‚ูˆู„ุŒ "ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ ุนู„ูŠู‡ู… ุงู„ู„ุนู†ุฉุŒ ู„ู‚ุฏ ู‚ู…ู†ุง ุจุชุบูŠูŠุฑ ุงู„ู‚ูˆุงู†ูŠู† ุงู„ุขู†."
17:38
That's my job in the community:
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ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุฏูˆุฑูŠ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุน: ู„ุฃู‚ูˆู„ ุฃู†ู†ุง ู„ู† ู†ุณู…ุญ ู„ุงู†ูุชุงุญู†ุง
17:40
to say we won't allow our openness and freedom
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17:43
to undermine the quality of the content.
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ูˆุญุฑูŠุชู†ุง ุฃู† ุชู‚ู„ู„ ู…ู† ุฌูˆุฏุฉ ุงู„ู…ุญุชูˆูŠุงุช.
17:46
And so, as long as people trust me in my role,
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ูˆุนู„ูŠู‡ ุทุงู„ู…ุง ูŠุซู‚ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุจูŠ ูˆุจุฏูˆุฑูŠุŒ
17:49
then that's a valid place for me.
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ุนู†ุฏู‡ุง ุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ู…ูƒุงู† ุงู„ุตุญูŠุญ ู„ูŠ.
17:51
Of course, because of the free licensing,
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ุจุงู„ุทุจุนุŒ ู„ุฃู† ุงู„ุฑุฎุตุฉ ู…ุฌุงู†ูŠุฉุŒ ุฅุฐุง ู‚ู…ุช ุจุนู…ู„ ุณูŠุฆุŒ
17:53
if I do a bad job, the volunteers are more than happy to take and leave --
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ุณูŠู‚ูˆู… ุงู„ู…ุชุทูˆุนูŠู† ุจุงู„ู…ุบุงุฏุฑุฉ ุจูƒู„ ุณุนุงุฏุฉ--
17:57
I can't tell anyone what to do.
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ู„ุง ุฃูุฑุถ ุนู„ู‰ ุฃูŠ ุดุฎุต ุฃูŠ ุดุฆ.
17:59
So the final point here is that to understand how Wikipedia works,
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ู„ุฐุง ูุงู„ู†ู‚ุทุฉ ุงู„ุฃุฎูŠุฑุฉ ู‡ู†ุง ู„ูู‡ู… ูƒูŠู ุชุนู…ู„ ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุงุŒ
18:03
it's important to understand that our wiki model is the way we work,
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ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ู‡ู… ูู‡ู… ุฃู† ู†ู…ูˆุฐุฌู†ุง ููŠ ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ู†ุนู…ู„ ุจู‡ุงุŒ
18:06
but we are not fanatical web anarchists.
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ู„ูƒู†ู†ุง ู„ุณู†ุง ุงู„ููˆุถูˆูŠูŠู† ุงู„ู…ุชุนุตุจูŠู† ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุดุจูƒุฉ. ููŠ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉุŒ ู†ุญู†--
18:10
In fact, we're very flexible about the social methodology,
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ู†ุญู† ู…ุฑู†ูˆู† ู„ู„ุบุงูŠุฉ ุญูˆู„ ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุฅุฌุชู…ุงุนูŠุฉุŒ
18:13
because ultimately, the passion of the community
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ู„ุฃู†ู‡ุง ููŠ ู†ู‡ุงูŠุฉ ุงู„ู…ุทุงู ุนุงุทูุฉ ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุน ู„ุฌูˆุฏุฉ ุงู„ุนู…ู„ุŒ
18:16
is for the quality of the work,
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18:18
not necessarily for the process that we use to generate it.
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ูˆู„ูŠุณ ุจุงู„ุถุฑูˆุฑุฉ ู„ู„ุนู…ู„ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฃุณุชุฎุฏู…ู†ุงู‡ุง ู„ุตู†ุนู‡ุง.
18:21
Thank you.
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18:22
(Applause)
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ุดูƒุฑุงู‹ ู„ูƒู…!
(ุชุตููŠู‚)
18:26
Ben Saunders: Yeah, hi, Ben Saunders.
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18:28
Jimmy, you mentioned impartiality being a key to Wikipedia's success.
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ุจู† ุณุงูˆู†ุฏุฑุฒ: ูŠุงุงู‡ุŒ ู…ุฑุญุจุงู‹ุŒ ู…ุนูƒู… ุจู† ุณุงูˆู†ุฏุฑุฒ
ุฌูŠู…ูŠุŒ ู„ู‚ุฏ ุฐูƒุฑุช ุฃู† ุงู„ุญูŠุงุฏ ู‡ูˆ ู…ูุชุงุญ ู†ุฌุงุญ ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุง.
18:32
It strikes me that much of the textbooks that are used to educate our children
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ูุฌุนู†ูŠ ุฃู† ู…ุนุธู… ุงู„ูƒุชุจ
18:38
are inherently biased.
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ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠุฏุฑุณู‡ุง ุฃุทูุงู„ู†ุง ู…ุชุญูŠุฒุฉ ุจุงู„ูˆุฑุงุซุฉ.
18:40
Have you found Wikipedia being used by teachers
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ู‡ู„ ูˆุฌุฏุช ุฃู† ุงู„ู…ุนู„ู…ูŠู† ูŠุณุชุฎุฏู…ูˆู† ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุงุŒ
18:43
and how do you see Wikipedia changing education?
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ูˆูƒูŠู ุชุฑู‰ ุฃู† ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุง ุชุบูŠุฑ ุงู„ุชุนู„ูŠู…ุŸ
18:46
Jimmy Wales: Yeah, so, a lot of teachers are beginning to use Wikipedia.
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ุฌูŠู…ูŠ ูˆูŠู„ุฒ: ู†ุนู…ุŒ ู‡ู†ุงู„ูƒ ุงู„ุนุฏูŠุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุนู„ู…ูŠู† ุจุฏุฃูˆุง ููŠ ุฅุณุชุฎุฏุงู… ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุง. ุดุฆ ุขุฎุฑ--
18:50
There's a media storyline about Wikipedia, which I think is false.
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ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุญูƒุงูŠุงุช ุฅุนู„ุงู…ูŠุฉ ุญูˆู„ ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุงุŒ ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู†ู‡ุง ู…ุบู„ูˆุทุฉ.
18:55
It builds on the storyline of bloggers versus newspapers.
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ุฅู†ู‡ุง ุชุจู†ูŠ ุนู„ู‰ ู‚ุตุต ุงู„ู…ุฏูˆู†ุงุช ูˆ ุงู„ุตุญู.
18:58
And the storyline is, there's this crazy thing, Wikipedia,
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ูˆุฃุณุงุณ ุงู„ุญูƒุงูŠุฉ ู‡ูˆุŒ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุดุฆ ุฌู†ูˆู†ูŠุŒ ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุงุŒ
19:01
but academics hate it and teachers hate it.
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ู„ูƒู† ุงู„ุฃูƒุงุฏูŠู…ูˆู† ูŠูƒุฑู‡ูˆู†ู‡ุง ูˆูƒุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ู…ุนู„ู…ูŠู†. ูˆุงุชุถุญ ุฃู† ุฐู„ูƒ ุบูŠุฑ ุตุญูŠุญ.
19:05
And that turns out to not be true.
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19:07
The last time I got an email from a journalist saying,
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ุงู„ู…ุฑุฉ ุงู„ุฃุฎูŠุฑุฉ ุชู„ู‚ูŠุช ุฑุณุงู„ุฉ ู…ู† ุตุญููŠ ูŠู‚ูˆู„ุŒ
19:10
"Why do academics hate Wikipedia?"
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ู„ู…ุงุฐุง ูŠูƒุฑู‡ ุงู„ุฃูƒุงุฏูŠู…ูŠูˆู† ูˆูŠูƒูŠุจูŠุฏูŠุงุŸ"
19:12
I sent it from my Harvard email address
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ุฃุฑุณู„ุช ู„ู‡ ู…ู† ุจุฑูŠุฏูŠ ุนู„ู‰ ุฌุงู…ุนุฉ ู‡ุงุฑูุงุฑุฏุŒ
19:14
because I was recently appointed a fellow there.
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ู„ุฃู†ู‡ ุชู… ุชุนูŠู†ูŠ ู…ุคุฎุฑุงู‹ ูƒุฒู…ูŠู„ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ.
19:16
And I said, "Well, they don't all hate it."
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ูˆู‚ู„ุช ู„ู‡ุŒ " ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ ู„ุง ูŠูƒุฑู‡ูˆู†ู‡ุง ูƒู„ูŠุฉ."
19:18
(Laughter)
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19:19
But I think there's going to be huge impacts.
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ู„ูƒู† ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู†ู‡ ุณูŠูƒูˆู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุชุฃุซูŠุฑุงุช ุถุฎู…ุฉ.
19:22
And we actually have a project that I'm personally really excited about,
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ูˆููŠ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ู…ุดุฑูˆุน
19:25
which is the Wikibooks project,
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ุฃู†ุง ุดุฎุตูŠุง ู…ุชุญู…ุณ ู„ู‡ุŒ
19:27
which is an effort to create textbooks in all the languages.
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ุงู„ุฐูŠ ู‡ูˆ ู…ุดุฑูˆุน ูˆูŠูƒูŠ ู„ู„ูƒุชุจุŒ
ุงู„ุฐูŠ ู‡ูˆ ู…ุฌู‡ูˆุฏ ู„ุตู†ุน ูƒุชุจ ุจูƒู„ ุงู„ู„ุบุงุช.
19:30
And that's a much bigger project.
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ูˆุฐู„ูƒ ู…ุดุฑูˆุน ุฃูƒุจุฑ ุจูƒุซูŠุฑ.
19:32
It's going to take 20 years or so to come to fruition.
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ุณูŠุณุชุบุฑู‚ 20 ุนุงู…ุงู‹ ุฃูˆ ุฃูƒุซุฑ ู„ูŠุตู„ ู…ุฑุญู„ุฉ ุงู„ุฅุฒู‡ุงุฑ.
19:36
But part of that is to fulfill our mission
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ู„ูƒู† ุฌุฒุก ู…ู† ุฐู„ูƒ ู‡ูˆ ุฃู† ู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจู…ู‡ู…ุชู†ุง
19:38
of giving an encyclopedia to every single person on the planet.
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ุจุชู‚ุฏูŠู… ู…ูˆุณูˆุนุฉ ู„ูƒู„ ุดุฎุต ุนู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ูƒูˆูƒุจ.
19:41
We don't mean we're going to Spam them with AOL-style CDs.
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ูˆู„ุง ู†ุนู†ูŠ ุจุฐู„ูƒ ุฃู†ู†ุง ุณู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจุฅุฒุนุงุฌู‡ู… ุนู„ู‰ ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุฃู‚ุฑุงุต ุฃู…ุฑูŠูƒุง ุฃูˆู† ู„ุงูŠู†.
19:44
We mean we're going to give them a tool that they can use.
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ู†ุนู†ูŠ ุฃู†ู†ุง ุณู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจุชู‚ุฏูŠู…ู‡ุง ูƒุฃุฏุงุฉ ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฅุณุชุฎุฏุงู…ู‡ุง.
19:47
And for a lot of people in the world,
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ูˆู„ู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ููŠ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู…ุŒ
19:49
if I give you an encyclopedia that's written at a university level,
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ุฅุฐุง ู‚ุฏู…ุช ู„ูƒ ู…ูˆุณูˆุนุฉ ู…ูƒุชูˆุจุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ู…ุณุชูˆู‰ ุงู„ุฌุงู…ุนุฉุŒ
19:52
it doesn't do you any good without a whole host of literacy materials
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ู„ู† ุชู‚ุฏู… ู„ูƒ ุฃูŠ ุดุฆ ู…ููŠุฏ
ู…ู† ุฏูˆู† ูƒู„ ุงู„ู…ุนูŠู†ุงุช ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชู…ุญูˆ ุงู„ุฃู…ูŠุฉ
19:56
to build you up to the point where you can actually use it.
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ู„ุชุทูˆุฑูƒ ู„ู„ู†ู‚ุทุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุณุชุทูŠุน ุญูŠู†ู‡ุง ุฅุณุชุฎุฏุงู…ู‡ุง.
19:58
The Wikibooks project is an effort to do that.
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ูˆู„ุฐุง ูู…ุดุฑูˆุน ูƒุชุจ ุงู„ูˆูŠูƒูŠ ู‡ูˆ ุฌู‡ุฏ ู„ูุนู„ ุฐู„ูƒ.
20:00
And I think that we're going to see -- it may not even come from us;
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ูˆุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู†ู†ุง ุณู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจุฑุคูŠุฉ ุดุฆ ุถุฎู…--
ุฑุจู…ุง ู„ู† ูŠุฃุชูŠ ููŠ ุฒู…ุงู†ู†ุง ู†ุญู†ุŒ
20:04
there's all kinds of innovation going on.
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ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฅุจุชูƒุงุฑุงุช ุญูˆู„ู†ุง
20:06
But freely licensed textbooks are the next big thing in education.
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ู„ูƒู† ุงู„ูƒุชุจ ู…ุฌุงู†ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุฑุฎุตุฉ ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุดุฆ ุงู„ูƒุจูŠุฑ ุงู„ู‚ุงุฏู… ููŠ ุงู„ุชุนู„ูŠู….
ุญูˆู„ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุน

ุณูŠู‚ุฏู… ู„ูƒ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุน ู…ู‚ุงุทุน ููŠุฏูŠูˆ YouTube ุงู„ู…ููŠุฏุฉ ู„ุชุนู„ู… ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ. ุณุชุฑู‰ ุฏุฑูˆุณ ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠุชู… ุชุฏุฑูŠุณู‡ุง ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„ ู…ุฏุฑุณูŠู† ู…ู† ุงู„ุฏุฑุฌุฉ ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ู‰ ู…ู† ุฌู…ูŠุน ุฃู†ุญุงุก ุงู„ุนุงู„ู…. ุงู†ู‚ุฑ ู†ู‚ุฑู‹ุง ู…ุฒุฏูˆุฌู‹ุง ููˆู‚ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุงู„ู…ุนุฑูˆุถุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ูƒู„ ุตูุญุฉ ููŠุฏูŠูˆ ู„ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ ู…ู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ. ูŠุชู… ุชู…ุฑูŠุฑ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุงุช ุจุงู„ุชุฒุงู…ู† ู…ุน ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ. ุฅุฐุง ูƒุงู† ู„ุฏูŠูƒ ุฃูŠ ุชุนู„ูŠู‚ุงุช ุฃูˆ ุทู„ุจุงุช ุŒ ูŠุฑุฌู‰ ุงู„ุงุชุตุงู„ ุจู†ุง ุจุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู… ู†ู…ูˆุฐุฌ ุงู„ุงุชุตุงู„ ู‡ุฐุง.

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