The brain in love | Helen Fisher

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譯者: Ai-Ying (Erin) Chiang 審譯者: Yu-Ju Chiang
00:19
I and my colleagues Art Aron and Lucy Brown and others,
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我和同事亞特愛倫、露西布朗和其他人
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have put 37 people who are madly in love into a functional MRI brain scanner.
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將 37 名瘋狂陷入愛河的人們
接受MRI 腦部掃描
00:27
17 who were happily in love, 15 who had just been dumped,
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其中 17 名正在享受愛情, 另外 15 名則剛剛被甩
而現在我們的第 3 項實驗才剛起步:
00:31
and we're just starting our third experiment:
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00:33
studying people who report that they're still in love
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研究那些依然認為自己愛火未熄的人們
這些人都結婚 10 到 25 年了
00:36
after 10 to 25 years of marriage.
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00:38
So, this is the short story of that research.
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現在,我們就來簡單的談談這項研究
在瓜地馬拉叢林中一個叫帝卡的地方, 有一座神廟
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In the jungles of Guatemala, in Tikal, stands a temple.
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00:47
It was built by the grandest Sun King, of the grandest city-state,
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由至高無上的太陽王建造
他統治最偉大的城市城邦
00:52
of the grandest civilization of the Americas, the Mayas.
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創造出最輝煌的美洲文明 -- 馬雅
太陽王叫做卡薩.肯.切威
00:57
His name was Jasaw Chan K'awiil.
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00:59
He stood over six feet tall.
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身高超過 6 呎
活到高壽 80 歲
01:02
He lived into his 80s,
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西元 720 年,他就被葬在這神廟下
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and he was buried beneath this monument in 720 AD.
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01:08
And Mayan inscriptions proclaim that he was deeply in love with his wife.
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殿中的馬雅碑文描述
他深愛自己的妻子
因此為她建造了面朝自己的神廟
01:12
So, he built a temple in her honor, facing his.
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01:16
And every spring and autumn, exactly at the equinox,
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每年春秋兩季,就在春秋分這兩日
太陽從他的神廟後方升起
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the sun rises behind his temple,
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01:22
and perfectly bathes her temple with his shadow.
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神廟投下的陰影,將完全將籠罩妻子的神廟
01:27
And as the sun sets behind her temple in the afternoon,
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到了傍晚,太陽在妻子神廟後落下
01:31
it perfectly bathes his temple with her shadow.
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自己的神廟就會完全籠罩在妻子的陰影中
即使過了 1300 年,這對愛侶
01:35
After 1,300 years, these two lovers still touch and kiss from their tomb.
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仍在墓中相擁相親
世界各地的人們付出愛情
01:42
Around the world, people love.
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他們為愛而歌、因愛而舞
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They sing for love, they dance for love,
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01:47
they compose poems and stories about love.
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寫出關於愛情的詩和故事
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They tell myths and legends about love.
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訴說關於愛情的神話和傳說
他們為愛消瘦、為愛而活
01:53
They pine for love, they live for love, they kill for love, and they die for love.
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為愛殺戮也為愛而死
惠特曼曾說
01:59
As Walt Whitman once said, "O I would stake all for you."
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他說:「喔,我願為愛放棄一切」
人類學家在超過 170 個社會中找到愛情的證據
02:04
Anthropologists have found evidence of romantic love in 170 societies.
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02:08
They've never found a society that did not have it.
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他們從未找到一個沒有愛的社會
但愛不總是快樂的
02:12
But love isn't always a happy experience.
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在一個大學生的調查中
02:15
In one study of college students, they asked a lot of questions about love,
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他們問了許多關於愛情的問題
其中最引我注意的兩個問題就是
02:19
but the two that stood out to me the most were:
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你曾經被自己真愛的人拒絕嗎?
02:22
"Have you ever been rejected by somebody who you really loved?"
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02:26
And the second question was:
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第二個問題則是
你曾經拋棄真正愛妳的人嗎?
02:28
"Have you ever dumped somebody who really loved you?"
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02:31
And almost 95 percent of both men and women said yes to both.
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不管男女,回答兩者皆是的人幾近 95%
幾乎沒人能從愛中全身而退
02:37
Almost nobody gets out of love alive.
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02:40
So, before I start telling you about the brain,
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因此,在開始談大腦之前
我想先念幾段文字
02:44
I want to read for you
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what I think is the most powerful love poem on Earth.
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我認為這是世界上最動人的情詩
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There's other love poems that are, of course, just as good,
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當然,其他情詩也很好
不過我認為這首詩真的是無與倫比
02:51
but I don't think this one can be surpassed.
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南阿拉斯加的一名瓜基烏圖族印第安人
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It was told by an anonymous Kwakiutl Indian of southern Alaska
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02:58
to a missionary in 1896.
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在 1896 年將這首詩告訴傳教士,詩是這麼說的
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And here it is.
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這是我第一次有機會唸出來
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I've never had the opportunity to say it before.
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03:06
"Fire runs through my body with the pain of loving you.
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愛妳的痛苦,蔓延全身如火燒灼
對妳的愛火,燒灼全身痛苦難抑
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Pain runs through my body with the fires of my love for you.
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03:14
Pain like a boil about to burst with my love for you,
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對妳的愛伴隨之苦似水,將沸將滿
遭愛情的烈焰吞噬
03:18
consumed by fire with my love for you.
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03:21
I remember what you said to me.
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妳的愛語,我不曾忘記
妳的愛情,我時時惦記
03:24
I am thinking of your love for me.
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妳的愛情,讓我分崩離析
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I am torn by your love for me.
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痛苦無盡
03:28
Pain and more pain --
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03:30
where are you going with my love?
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妳,帶著我的愛情,要往何去
我聽說妳將就此離去
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I am told you will go from here.
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03:34
I am told you will leave me here.
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我聽說妳要將我獨留此地
我的身體,現已悲痛無覺
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My body is numb with grief.
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我的一字一句,愛人呀,請別忘記
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Remember what I said, my love.
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再見了,我的愛,後會有期
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Goodbye, my love, goodbye."
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03:44
Emily Dickinson once wrote, "Parting is all we need to know of hell."
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愛蜜莉狄更生曾寫到
分離,讓我們體會地獄
多少人受此折磨
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How many people have suffered
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在人類演化的這幾百萬年中?
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in all the millions of years of human evolution?
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03:56
How many people around the world
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世界上又有多少人
在此刻因愛狂喜雀躍?
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are dancing with elation at this very minute?
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04:02
Romantic love is one of the most powerful sensations on Earth.
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世上最強大感情之一就是浪漫的愛情。
因此,幾年前我便決定深入研究大腦
04:06
So, several years ago, I decided to look into the brain
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藉此研究這種瘋狂耽溺
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and study this madness.
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04:13
Our first study of people who were happily in love
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我們對愛情中的人們所作的第一項研究
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has been widely publicized,
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已大量出版
04:16
so I'm only going to say very little about it.
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所以,我便不再贅述
04:19
We found activity in a tiny, little factory near the base of the brain
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我們在靠近腦底部的小地方發現腦部活動
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called the ventral tegmental area.
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該處叫做腹側蓋區 (VTA)
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We found activity in some cells called the A10 cells,
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我們發現了一些名為 ApEn 的細胞
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cells that actually make dopamine, a natural stimulant,
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這些細胞負責製造多巴胺這種自然的激素
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and spray it to many brain regions.
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然後將之送到腦部的許多區域
其實 VTA 區是腦部回饋系統的一部份
04:34
Indeed, this part, the VTA, is part of the brain's reward system.
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比負責認知思考的腦區深很多
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It's way below your cognitive thinking process.
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04:40
It's below your emotions.
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也比負責情緒的腦區深
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It's part of what we call the reptilian core of the brain,
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它屬於名為爬蟲類腦的腦部區域
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associated with wanting, with motivation, with focus and with craving.
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跟欲望和動機
還有專注與渴望相關
04:50
In fact, the same brain region where we found activity
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事實上,我們發現這個活躍的區域
在古柯鹼毒癮發作時,也有相同反應
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becomes active also when you feel the rush of cocaine.
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04:57
But romantic love is much more than a cocaine high --
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但浪漫的愛情,不只是吸毒的癮
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at least you come down from cocaine.
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至少,吸毒的癮會過去
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Romantic love is an obsession, it possesses you.
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浪漫的愛情則是一種癡迷,讓人沈淪耽溺
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You lose your sense of self.
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令你神魂顛倒、喪失自我
你無法停止惦記另一個人
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You can't stop thinking about another human being.
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05:11
Somebody is camping in your head.
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有人在你心裡紮營
正如 8 世紀日本詩人說的
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As an eighth-century Japanese poet said, "My longing had no time when it ceases."
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我的渴望無時止息
瘋狂就是愛
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Wild is love.
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而且,這種迷戀還可能在遭到拒絕後加深
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And the obsession can get worse when you've been rejected.
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因此現在,露西和我以及研究計畫中的腦神經學家
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So, right now, Lucy Brown and I, the neuroscientists on our project,
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正在觀察實驗樣本的數據
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are looking at the data of the people
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這些接受掃描的人,都剛被拋棄
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who were put into the machine after they had just been dumped.
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05:36
It was very difficult actually, putting these people in the machine,
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這不是件簡單的事
讓這些人接受掃描
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because they were in such bad shape.
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因為他們真是不成人型
(笑聲)
05:41
(Laughter)
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05:45
So anyway, we found activity in three brain regions.
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總之,我們在 3 個腦區發現活動
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We found activity in the brain region,
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其中一個活動的腦區
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in exactly the same brain region associated with intense romantic love.
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竟然就是那個
與強烈的愛情相關的腦區
天呀,真糟糕
05:55
What a bad deal.
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05:56
You know, when you've been dumped,
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大家都知道,一但被拋棄
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the one thing you love to do is just forget about this human being,
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我們唯一想做的事就是把這個人忘了
然後重新開始生活
06:01
and then go on with your life -- but no, you just love them harder.
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不過,我們實際上反而愛的更深
就像羅馬詩人泰倫斯曾說的
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As the poet Terence, the Roman poet once said,
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06:09
he said, "The less my hope, the hotter my love."
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他說「希望愈渺,愛情愈炙」
現在,我們終於知道原因了
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And indeed, we now know why.
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06:14
Two thousand years later, we can explain this in the brain.
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2,000 年後,我們可以用大腦活動解釋
這一個大腦系統,這個回饋系統
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That brain system -- the reward system
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06:20
for wanting, for motivation, for craving, for focus --
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負責欲望、動機、渴望和專注
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becomes more active when you can't get what you want.
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在無法遂願時,反而更加活躍
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In this case, life's greatest prize: an appropriate mating partner.
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就這樣,我們得到生命賜予的最大獻禮
一個合適的交配伴侶
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We found activity in other brain regions also --
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我們也在其他腦區發現活動
在計算得失的腦區
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in a brain region associated with calculating gains and losses.
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你知道的,你躺在那,看著相片
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You're lying there, you're looking at the picture,
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在機器裡
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and you're in this machine,
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你同時也在算計,自己做錯了什麼?
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and you're calculating what went wrong.
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06:46
What have I lost?
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為什麼失敗,又失去了什麼?
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As a matter of fact, Lucy and I have a little joke about this.
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實際上,露西跟我還就這個情況說了個小笑話
靈感是大衛馬蒙的戲
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It comes from a David Mamet play,
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06:55
and there's two con artists in the play,
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戲中有男女兩個騙子
女的試著誘騙男人上鉤
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and the woman is conning the man,
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06:59
and the man looks at the woman and says,
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但這個男人看著女人,然後說
喔,妳少耍心機了,我才不會上當呢
07:01
"Oh, you're a bad pony, I'm not going to bet on you."
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07:06
And indeed, it's this part of the brain,
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這就是這一個腦區
阿肯柏氏核的中樞開始活動
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the core of the nucleus accumbens,
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07:11
that is becoming active as you're measuring your gains and losses.
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就在我們計算得失的時候
這個腦區也會開始活躍
07:14
It's also the brain region that becomes active
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當我們自願冒極大的險
07:17
when you're willing to take enormous risks for huge gains and huge losses.
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以得到巨大的報償或損失
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Last but not least, we found activity in a brain region
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最後,但卻重要的是,我們在一個腦區發現的活動
這和對另一個體的深度依戀有關
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associated with deep attachment to another individual.
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07:29
No wonder people suffer around the world, and we have so many crimes of passion.
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難怪世上的人都在受苦
而且有那麼多因愛犯罪的案例
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When you've been rejected in love,
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當我們在愛中遭到拒絕
我們不只在愛情中滅頂
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not only are you engulfed with feelings of romantic love,
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還會對對方產生深度的依戀
07:42
but you're feeling deep attachment to this individual.
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07:44
Moreover, this brain circuit for reward is working,
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而且,大腦回饋迴路的作用
我們感到極度有活力、專注
07:48
and you're feeling intense energy, intense focus, intense motivation
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極度有動力且非常願意窮盡一切
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and the willingness to risk it all, to win life's greatest prize.
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贏得生命的大禮
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So, what have I learned from this experiment
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那麼,我到底從這項實驗中學到什麼?
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that I would like to tell the world?
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我想告訴大家什麼?
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Foremost, I have come to think
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首先,我開始認為
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that romantic love is a drive, a basic mating drive.
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愛情是一種慾望,一種引發交配本能的慾望
它不是性慾,因為性慾讓你忘了愛情
08:10
Not the sex drive --
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08:11
the sex drive gets you looking for a whole range of partners.
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尋找各式各樣的性伴侶
真正的愛情讓我們只將交配精力聚焦在單一對象
08:14
Romantic love enables you to focus your mating energy
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on just one at a time, conserve your mating energy,
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一次針對一個人,保留我們的交配精力
08:19
and start the mating process with this single individual.
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然後跟這個單一對象,開始交配過程
回想所有我讀過的情詩
08:23
I think of all the poetry that I've read about romantic love,
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柏拉圖說得最好
08:27
what sums it up best is something that is said by Plato
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08:30
over 2,000 years ago.
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超過 2,000 年前
他說「需求產生愛」
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He said, "The god of love lives in a state of need.
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愛是需求,是衝動
08:37
It is a need, it is an urge, it is a homeostatic imbalance.
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是內在恆定的失衡
08:42
Like hunger and thirst, it's almost impossible to stamp out."
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就像饑渴,幾乎不可能壓抑消滅
我也開始相信,愛情是一種癮
08:47
I've also come to believe that romantic love is an addiction:
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a perfectly wonderful addiction when it's going well,
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一種在順遂時,極度美好
情況有變時則極度糟糕的癮
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and a perfectly horrible addiction when it's going poorly.
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And indeed, it has all of the characteristics of addiction.
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實際上,愛也有許多和上癮相同的特性
08:59
You focus on the person, you obsessively think about them,
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我們專注於一個人、無法自拔的想他、
09:02
you crave them, you distort reality,
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渴望他、不惜扭曲事實
09:05
your willingness to take enormous risks to win this person.
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為了抱得良人歸,我們願意冒極大的險
09:08
And it's got the three main characteristics of addiction:
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所以,愛情有這 3 大成癮的特性
泰倫斯說「你需要更常見到他,再更常見到他」
09:11
tolerance, you need to see them more, and more, and more;
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withdrawals;
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戒癮,之後復發
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and last: relapse.
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我有個女性朋友,剛結束一段糟糕的戀情
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I've got a girlfriend who's just getting over a terrible love affair.
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09:20
It's been about eight months, she's beginning to feel better.
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8 個月過去了,她開始覺得好一些
有一天她正在開車
09:23
And she was driving along in her car the other day,
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突然聽見收音機放出一首歌
09:26
and suddenly she heard a song on the car radio
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讓她想起這個男人
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that reminded her of this man.
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09:29
Not only did the instant craving come back,
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最後她,不只是感到那種迫切渴望又回來了
09:32
but she had to pull over from the side of the road and cry.
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她還不得不靠邊
將車停在路邊大哭一場
09:36
So, one thing I would like the medical community,
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因此,我希望醫學界、
法學界,甚至是大學學界
09:39
and the legal community, and even the college community,
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to see if they can understand, that indeed, romantic love
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試著理解,事實上
愛情是世上最容易成癮的毒品
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is one of the most addictive substances on Earth.
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I would also like to tell the world that animals love.
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我也希望告訴大家,動物也會愛
09:52
There's not an animal on this planet
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這世上沒有一種動物
會任意無選擇的交配
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that will copulate with anything that comes along.
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太老、太小、太髒、太笨,就不會交配
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Too old, too young, too scruffy, too stupid, and they won't do it.
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Unless you're stuck in a laboratory cage --
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除非困在實驗室籠子裡
10:04
and you know, if you spend your entire life in a little box,
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你知道,要是一輩子都在小盒子裡
對於性伴侶,就不會這麼挑剔
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you're not going to be as picky about who you have sex with,
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but I've looked in a hundred species,
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不過我觀察了一千種物種
在野外,動物就是會大小眼
10:14
and everywhere in the wild, animals have favorites.
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10:17
As a matter of fact, ethologists know this.
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實際上動物學家也知道這點
10:19
There are over eight words for what they call "animal favoritism:"
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他們用 4 個詞形容動物的大小眼
10:23
selective proceptivity, mate choice, female choice, sexual choice.
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選擇知覺、交配選擇、雌性選擇、性選擇
10:28
And indeed, there are now three academic articles
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而且,已有 3 篇學術論文
10:31
in which they've looked at this attraction,
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研究這樣的吸引力
10:34
which may only last for a second,
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雖然只維持短短一秒
10:36
but it's a definite attraction,
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這就是一種吸引力
同樣的腦部區域,這種回饋系統
10:38
and either this same brain region, this reward system,
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or the chemicals of that reward system are involved.
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或是回饋系統的化學作用都與之相關
10:44
In fact, I think animal attraction can be instant --
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實際上,我認為動物的吸引力可能在當下馬上發生
10:47
you can see an elephant instantly go for another elephant.
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我們可以看見大象馬上走向另一隻大象
10:50
And I think that this is really the origin
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我認為這就是一個開始
10:52
of what you and I call "love at first sight."
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開始了我們口中的「一見鍾情」
大家常問我
10:56
People have often asked me
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whether what I know about love has spoiled it for me.
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我對愛情的了解,會不會讓我對愛情失去興趣
11:02
And I just simply say, "Hardly."
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我只能說,一點也不
11:04
You can know every single ingredient in a piece of chocolate cake,
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正如我們知道巧克力蛋糕的所有材料
不過,真正坐下來吃蛋糕時
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and then when you sit down and eat that cake,
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11:10
you can still feel that joy.
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還是覺得很享受
11:12
And certainly, I make all the same mistakes that everybody else does too,
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當然,我還是會犯同樣的錯
犯天下人都會犯的錯
11:16
but it's really deepened my understanding
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不過,這一切都加深了我的了解
11:20
and compassion, really, for all human life.
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我對各種人的同理心,
11:24
As a matter of fact, in New York, I often catch myself
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其實,在紐約,我常發現自己
11:27
looking in baby carriages and feeling a little sorry for the tot.
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望著嬰兒車,對裡面的寶寶感到一點遺憾
11:31
And in fact, sometimes I feel a little sorry
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而且,我有時候也覺得有些遺憾
11:34
for the chicken on my dinner plate,
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看著盤中的雞
想到這些大腦系統有多強大
11:36
when I think of how intense this brain system is.
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11:41
Our newest experiment has been hatched
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我們最新的研究催生者
11:46
by my colleague, Art Aron --
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便是我的同事亞特愛倫
11:48
putting people who are reporting that they are still in love,
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讓聲稱依然相愛的人們
用 MRI 掃描這些身處長期關係中的人們
11:52
in a long-term relationship, into the functional MRI.
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We've put five people in so far,
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目前我們已經掃描了 5 個人
11:57
and indeed, we found exactly the same thing.
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而且也真的發現同樣的事實。他們沒有說謊
12:00
They're not lying.
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12:02
The brain areas associated with intense romantic love
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同樣的腦區
跟強烈的愛情相關的地方
12:08
still become active, 25 years later.
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即使過了 25 年,依然活躍
12:12
There are still many questions to be answered
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有待解釋的問題還有很多
12:15
and asked about romantic love.
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關於愛情,有待提出的問題也很多
12:18
The question that I'm working on right this minute --
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目前我正在努力的問題
我只稍微談一下,然後就做結語
12:20
and I'm only going to say it for a second, and then end --
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問題就是,我們為什麼只愛上這個人,而不是其他人?
12:23
is, why do you fall in love with one person, rather than another?
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12:26
I never would have even thought to think of this,
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我從未思考過這個問題
12:29
but Match.com, the Internet dating site,
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不過 Match.com 這個線上約會網站
12:31
came to me three years ago and asked me that question.
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3 年前找到我,問了這個問題
我只能說,我不知道
12:34
And I said, I don't know.
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12:35
I know what happens in the brain, when you do become in love,
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我知道愛情來臨時大腦中發生的活動
12:38
but I don't know why you fall in love with one person rather than another.
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不過,我不知道為什麼我們只看上這個人
而不是另一個人
所以,過去 3 年,我都在研究這問題
12:42
And so, I've spent the last three years on this.
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12:45
And there are many reasons that you fall in love with one person
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因為許多因素,我們愛上某人
而不是其他人。心理學家也這麼告訴我們
12:48
rather than another, that psychologists can tell you.
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而且我們比較容易愛上
12:50
And we tend to fall in love with somebody from the same socioeconomic background,
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社經背景相同、
知識程度相同、
12:54
the same general level of intelligence, of good looks, the same religious values.
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外貌相配、
信仰價值觀相同的人
12:58
Your childhood certainly plays a role, but nobody knows how.
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童年當然是因素之一,不過沒人能肯定其影響方式
13:01
And that's about it, that's all they know.
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大概就是這樣。這就是我們所知的全部
13:03
No, they've never found
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不,他們從未發現過兩種不同的人格
13:05
the way two personalities fit together to make a good relationship.
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互相結合且營造出良好的關係
13:09
So, it began to occur to me
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因此,我有了個想法
13:11
that maybe your biology pulls you towards some people rather than another.
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也許我們受到的是生理的驅使
受特定人士的吸引
13:16
And I have concocted a questionnaire to see to what degree
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最後我設計了問卷,
13:20
you express dopamine, serotonin, estrogen and testosterone.
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可以反應出人們受多巴胺、血清素、 雌激素和睪固酮素影響的程度
13:25
I think we've evolved four very broad personality types
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我想我們演化出了 4 種非常大的人格分類
13:28
associated with the ratios of these four chemicals in the brain.
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與腦中這 4 種化學物質有關
13:32
And on this dating site that I have created, called Chemistry.com,
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在我建立的約會網站
叫做 Chemistry.com,我問了幾個大項的問題
13:36
I ask you first a series of questions
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13:40
to see to what degree you express these chemicals,
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看看我們受這幾種化學物質影響的程度
13:43
and I'm watching who chooses who to love.
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然後,我從中觀察大家的選擇
13:47
And 3.7 million people have taken the questionnaire in America.
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全美已有 370 萬人做過這個問卷
其他 33 個國家也共有 60 萬人回答
13:51
About 600,000 people have taken it in 33 other countries.
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13:56
I'm putting the data together now,
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目前,我在彙總數據
13:57
and at some point -- there will always be magic to love,
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有時候,總是免不了一些「奇蹟之愛」
但我相信,我們將能更進一步了解
14:01
but I think I will come closer to understanding
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為什麼走進一個房間
14:04
why it is you can walk into a room and everybody is from your background,
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每個人都來自相同背景、
14:08
your same general level of intelligence, good looks,
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知識程度相似、
外貌相配,
但卻不是每個人都能吸引我們
14:12
and you don't feel pulled towards all of them.
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14:14
I think there's biology to that.
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我想其中必有生理原因
14:16
I think we're going to end up, in the next few years,
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我認為,未來幾年內
14:19
to understand all kinds of brain mechanisms
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我們將可以了解,怎樣的大腦機制
14:21
that pull us to one person rather than another.
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讓我們受特定人士吸引
14:24
So, I will close with this.
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現在,讓我以此做結。他們是我的長青樣本。
14:27
These are my older people.
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14:30
Faulkner said, "The past is not dead, it's not even past."
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福克納曾說「未成定局的過去,
都不算過去」
的確,我們的包袱很重
14:35
Indeed, we carry a lot of luggage from our yesteryear in the human brain.
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這包袱來自我們過去對人腦所作的研究
14:40
And so, there's one thing that makes me pursue my understanding of human nature,
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不過,仍有一件事
激勵我努力了解人類的天性
14:48
and this reminds me of it.
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而這正提醒了我
14:50
These are two women.
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這是兩個女人
14:51
Women tend to get intimacy differently than men do.
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女人的親密關係和男人不同
14:54
Women get intimacy from face-to-face talking.
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女人透過面對面交談變得親密
我們在對方身邊轉
14:57
We swivel towards each other,
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14:58
we do what we call the "anchoring gaze" and we talk.
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給彼此所謂「支持的眼神」,而且我們交談
對女人來說,這就是親密
15:03
This is intimacy to women.
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15:04
I think it comes from millions of years
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我想這是幾百萬年來
將寶寶擁在懷裡看著
15:06
of holding that baby in front of your face,
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說話哄他、罵他、教他的結果
15:08
cajoling it, reprimanding it, educating it with words.
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男人則透過身體力行進入親密關係
15:12
Men tend to get intimacy from side-by-side doing.
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(笑聲)
15:15
As soon as one guy looks up, the other guy will look away.
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一個人向上看,另一個馬上轉移視線
(笑聲)
15:19
(Laughter)
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15:20
I think it comes from millions of years sitting behind the bush,
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我想這是因為幾百萬年來
他們都站在或坐在樹叢後
15:25
looking straight ahead, trying to hit that buffalo on the head with a rock.
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向前看
試著把石頭砸到野牛的頭上
(笑聲)
15:30
I think, for millions of years, men faced their enemies,
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我想男人幾百萬年來面對敵人
所以習慣與朋友肩並肩吧
15:33
they sat side-by-side with friends.
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15:35
So my final statement is: love is in us.
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今日我將以此做結:愛,無所不在
它深深的刻在我們的腦中
15:40
It's deeply embedded in the brain.
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15:42
Our challenge is to understand each other.
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真正的困難,是互相了解。謝謝各位。
15:45
Thank you.
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(掌聲)
15:46
(Applause)
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