Did you hear the one about the Iranian-American? | Maz Jobrani

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翻译人员: Angelia King 校对人员: Zhu Jie
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I was one of the founding members of the Axis of Evil Comedy Tour.
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我是邪恶轴心喜剧团
的创始成员之一。
00:19
The other founding members included Ahmed Ahmed,
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其他的创始成员包括
00:22
who is an Egyptian-American, who actually had the idea
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一个埃及裔美国人艾哈迈德·艾哈迈德,
他有了这个喜剧团想法就来到中东进行创作。
00:25
to go to the Middle East and try it out before we went out as a tour.
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在我们开始喜剧团巡回演出前,
00:28
He went out solo and did it first.
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艾哈迈德首当其冲地进行个人表演。
00:30
Then there was Aron Kader, who was the Palestinian-American.
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接下来是巴勒斯坦裔美国人阿隆·卡德尔,
00:33
And then there was me, the Iranian-American of the group.
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还有我,这团队里的伊朗裔美国人。
00:36
Now, being Iranian-American presents its own set of problems,
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现在,就如大家所知,作为伊朗裔美国人
我内心有很多矛盾。
00:39
as you know.
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00:40
Those two countries aren't getting along these days.
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这两个国家最近关系不好。
00:42
So it causes a lot of inner conflict, you know,
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这就造成我很多内心冲突,
00:45
like part of me likes me, part of me hates me.
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比如我有时喜欢我自己,有时又恨我自己的一部分。
00:47
(Laughter)
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00:48
Part of me thinks I should have a nuclear program,
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我自身一部分认为伊朗有核计划,
00:50
the other part thinks I can't be trusted with one.
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另一部分又认为美国不可信。
00:53
These are dilemmas I have every day.
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每天我都会有这些困境。
00:55
But I was born in Iran; I'm now an American citizen,
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但是我出生在伊朗,现在是美国公民,
00:58
which means I have the American passport,
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这意味着我持有美国护照,
01:00
which means I can travel.
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可以旅游。
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Because if you only have the Iranian passport,
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假如你仅持有伊朗的护照,
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you're kind of limited to the countries you can go to with open arms,
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有限的国家会
热烈欢迎你,比如
01:09
you know -- Syria, Venezuela, North Korea.
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叙利亚,委内瑞拉和朝鲜。
01:11
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
01:14
So, anyone who's gotten their passport in America will tell you,
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所以在美国持有护照的人会知道,
在你的护照上
01:17
when you get it, it still says what country you were born in.
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还标有你的出生国。
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So I remember getting my American passport.
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所以我记得我拿到美国护照时,
01:22
I was like, "Woo-hoo! I'm going to travel."
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我有点兴奋,“哇噢,我可以去旅游了。”
01:24
And I opened it up, it said, "Born in Iran." I'm like, "Oh, come on, man!"
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但我一打开看,护照上写“出生地伊朗”。我很失意“哦,不会吧这都写,山姆大叔。”
(笑声)
01:28
(Laughter)
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01:29
"I'm trying to go places."
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“我还想去很多地方呢。”
01:30
(Laughter)
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01:31
But what's interesting is,
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但有意思的是持有美国护照在任何西方国家旅游,我从来没有遇到
01:32
I've never had trouble in any Western countries with my American passport,
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任何麻烦,
01:36
even though it says, "Born in Iran" -- no problems.
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尽管有“出生地伊朗”没问题。
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Where I've had problems is in some of the Arab countries.
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相反在阿拉伯的一些国家遇到麻烦,
01:41
I guess some of the Arab countries aren't getting along with Iran either.
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我猜是因为阿拉伯的一些国家也没和伊朗打好关系。
最近我和其他一些美国同事在科威特
01:45
So I was in Kuwait recently, doing a comedy show
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做喜剧演出。
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with some other American comedians.
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他们都通关了,然后边境巡逻看着我的美国护照。
01:49
They all went through.
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01:50
Then the border patrol saw my American passport: "Ah-ha! American, great."
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“啊哈,美国人,对吧。”
01:53
Then he opened it up. "Born in Iran? Wait."
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然后他打开护照。“出生地伊朗? 等等。”
01:55
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
01:57
And he started asking me questions.
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然后他开始盘查我一些问题。
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He said, "What is your father's name?"
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他说:“你父亲叫什么?”
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I said, "Well, he's passed away, but his name was Khosro."
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我说:“噢,他已经去世了,他叫胡萨罗。”
02:04
He goes, "What is your grandfather's name?"
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他继续说:“你祖父叫什么?”
我说:“他也去世很久了,
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I said, "He passed away a long time ago.
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他叫贾巴。”
02:09
His name was Jabbar."
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02:10
He says, "You wait. I'll be back," and he walked away.
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他说:“你等等,我快去快回,”他走之后。
我开始害怕起来,
02:13
And I started freaking out,
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02:14
because I don't know what kind of crap my grandfather was into.
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因为我不晓得我祖父曾干过什么破烂事。
(笑声)
02:17
(Laughter)
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设想那个人回来后会说,
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Thought the guy was going to come back and be like,
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“我们通缉你有200年了。”
02:22
"We've been looking for you for 200 years."
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(笑声)
02:24
(Laughter)
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02:27
"Your grandfather has a parking violation. It's way overdue.
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“你祖父曾经违规停车,这是过期罚款单。
你欠我们二十亿美元。”
02:31
You owe us two billion dollars."
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02:32
(Laughter)
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02:34
But as you can see, when I talk, I speak with an American accent,
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大家可以看出,
我讲话的口音是美国口音,你就会理所当然地认为,
02:37
which you would think, as an Iranian-American actor,
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作为一名伊朗裔美国演员,
02:40
I should be able to play any part, good, bad, what have you.
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我应该能胜任任何角色,正面角色,反面角色,随心所欲。
02:43
But a lot of times in Hollywood,
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但是许多次在好莱坞,
02:44
when casting directors find out you're of Middle Eastern descent,
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当选角导演知道我是中东后裔,
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they go, "Oh, you're Iranian. Great!
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他们说,“哦,你是伊朗人,好极了。
02:49
Can you say 'I will kill you in the name of Allah?'"
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你能说台词‘以真主阿拉的名义我要杀死你’?”
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I go, "I could say that, but what if I were to say,
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“我可以说这句台词,但假若我说,
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'Hello. I'm your doctor'?"
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‘你好,我是你的医生’呢?”
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They go, "Great! And then you hijack the hospital."
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他们说,“那好吧,然后你劫持医院。”
02:58
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
03:04
Like, I think you're missing the point here.
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我认为大家没完全理解我这的用意。
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Don't get me wrong, I don't mind playing bad guys.
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请别误解我,我不介意扮演反面角色。
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I want to play a bad guy. I want to rob a bank.
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我也想扮演反面角色。我想抢劫银行。
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I want to rob a bank in a film,
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在一部电影里我想抢劫银行,
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but do it with a gun, not with a bomb strapped around me, right?
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但我要带枪,而不是把炸弹绑在我身上。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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Because I imagine the director: "Maz, I think your character
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因为我设想导演用意,“马兹,我认为你是一个
在身上绑着炸药的抢劫犯角色。”
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would rob the bank with a bomb around him."
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03:23
"Why would I do that?
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“我为什么要那样做?
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If I want the money, why would I kill myself?"
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如果我想要钱,为什么我要送自己上西天?”
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
对吧。
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Right?
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03:32
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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"Gimme all your money, or I'll blow myself up!"
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“掏出你们所有的钱,要不我就炸飞自己。”
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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"Well, then blow yourself up.
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“好吧,那你就去炸吧。
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(Laughter)
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Just do it outside, please."
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不过请在外面引爆。”
03:46
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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But the fact is, there's good people everywhere.
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但事实是,全世界都有好人。
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That's what I try and show in my stand-up, good people everywhere.
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这也是我们喜剧团要展示的内容。全世界哪儿都有好人坏人,
只是一粒老鼠屎坏了一锅粥。
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All it takes in one person to mess it up.
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就如一两个月前在纽约时代广场,
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Like a couple months ago in Times Square in New York,
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有个巴基斯坦穆斯林男子试图自我引爆炸毁一个汽车。
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there was a Pakistani Muslim guy who tried to blow up a car bomb.
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当天晚上我也正好在时代广场
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Now, I happened to be in Times Square that night doing a comedy show.
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做喜剧秀。
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And a few months before that, there was a white American guy in Austin, Texas
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在此之前几个月,得克萨斯州奥斯汀市的一个美国白种人
开飞机撞美国国税局大楼,
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who flew his airplane into the IRS building,
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and I happened to be in Austin that day doing a stand-up comedy show.
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我那一天也碰巧在奥斯汀
做脱口秀喜剧演出。
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Now I'll tell you, as a Middle-Eastern male,
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我告诉大家,作为一个中东裔的男人,
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when you show up around a lot of these activities,
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当你老在这一类活动旁出现,
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you start feeling guilty at one point.
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你某种程度上开始感到有罪。
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(Laughter)
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我看着这些消息,我有种罪恶感觉,“是不是我也参与进了这种破烂事?”
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I was watching the news. I'm like, "Am I involved in this crap?"
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(笑声)
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(Laughter)
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"I didn't get the memo. What's going on?"
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“我没有收到犯罪备案。怎么回事啊?”
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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But what was interesting was,
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但有意思的是,巴基斯坦穆斯林男子的行为
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the Pakistani Muslim guy -- see, he gives a bad name to Muslims
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搞坏了全球穆斯林信徒的名声,
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and Middle Easterners and Pakistanis from all over the world.
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以及所有中东国家的人们和所有巴基斯坦人的名声。
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And one thing that happened there was also the Pakistani Taliban
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接下来是巴基斯坦塔利班组织
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took credit for that failed car bombing.
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宣布对那场失败的汽车炸弹事件负责。
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My question is: Why would you take credit for a failed car bombing?
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我的疑问是:为什么你要对
一场失败的汽车炸弹事件负责?
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"We just want to say:
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“我们只是想说,
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we tried."
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我们尽心尝试过了。”
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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"And furthermore ...
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“而且,
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(Laughter)
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意思意思就行了。”
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it is the thought that counts."
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
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"And in conclusion, win some, lose some."
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“而在最后,有得也有失。(没炸成反而坏了名声。)”
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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But what happened was, when the white guy flew his plane into the building,
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但当一个白人开飞机撞向国税局大楼时,
我知道所有我在美国的中东和穆斯林朋友们
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I know all my Middle Eastern and Muslim friends in the States
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边看着电视,边期待,“请不要是中东人。
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were watching TV, going,
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不是哈桑,不是侯赛因。”
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"Please, don't be Middle Eastern. Don't be Hassan or Hussein."
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当名字出来时是杰克,我有种如释重负,“呜啊!
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And the name came out: Jack. I'm like, "Woooo! That's not one of us!"
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他不是我们中的一员。
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But I kept watching the news in case they came back,
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但我继续看新闻,以防有新消息,
比如“在他做这事之前,他已改变信仰成为伊斯兰教徒。”
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and were like, "Before he did it, he converted to Islam."
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“可恶,为什么杰克?为什么?”
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"Damn it! Why Jack? Why?"
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05:43
But the fact is, I've been lucky
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但事实是,我一直很荣幸地有机会
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to get a chance to perform all over the world,
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在世界各地进行表演。
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and I did a lot of shows in the Middle East.
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我在中东也有很多表演。
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I just did a seven-country solo tour.
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我刚做完一个七个国家的个人秀演出。
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I was in Oman, and I was in Saudi Arabia.
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我在阿曼,沙特阿拉伯,
在迪拜表演。
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I was in Dubai.
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And it's great, there's good people everywhere.
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到处我都见到好人,这真是太棒了。
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And you learn great things about these places.
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关于这些不同的地方,大家能学到很多东西。
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I encourage people always to go visit these places.
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我鼓励人们常去参观这些地方。
例如迪拜,非常酷的地方。
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For example, Dubai -- cool place.
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They're obsessed with having the biggest, tallest, longest, as we all know.
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正如大家所知,那里痴迷于最大的,最高的,最长的等等。
那里有个迪拜购物中心。
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They have a mall there, the Dubai Mall.
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它是如此之大,在迪拜购物中心竟然还有的士。
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It is so big, they have taxis in the mall.
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I was walking. I heard, "Beep! Beep!" I'm like, "What are you doing here?"
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我正走着,听到“嘟嘟声”。
我想“的士怎么跑到这来了?”
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He goes, "I'm going to the Zara store. It's three miles away.
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他说,“我要去Zara精品店,有3英里远。
让开,让开,别挡我。”
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Out of my way. Out of my way. Out of my way."
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(Laughter)
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And what's crazy -- there's a recession going on, even in Dubai,
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最惊奇的是甚至在迪拜经济不景气的时候,
你从物价上还是看不出来。
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but you wouldn't know by the prices.
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Like in the Dubai Mall, they sell frozen yogurt by the gram.
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在迪拜购物中心,
他们卖以克称量的冷冻酸奶。
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It's like a drug deal.
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搞得好像毒品交易。
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I was walking by. The guy goes, "Psst! Habibi, my friend."
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我正走过时,一个男子说,“嗨,嗨,我亲爱的朋友。”
06:36
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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"You want some frozen yogurt?
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“你想要一些冷冻酸奶吗?
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(Laughter)
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Come here. Come here. Come here.
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来这里,请来这里。
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I have one gram, five gram, 10 gram. How many gram do you want?"
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我有一克,五克,十克的,你想要几克?”
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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I bought five grams. 10 dollars. 10 dollars! I said, "What's in this?"
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我买了五克,十美元。十美元啊! 我说,“这究竟是什么?”
06:51
He's like, "Good stuff, man. Colombian. Top of the line."
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他说,“好东西,先生,产自哥伦比亚。上等货色。绝对好。”
06:54
(Laughter)
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当你在这些国家,
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The other thing you learn when you travel in these countries,
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如中东国家,
06:57
in the Middle East, Latin American, South American countries,
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拉丁美洲的国家,南美洲的国家旅行,有时你学到一些东西--
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a lot of times when they build stuff, there's no rules and regulations.
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很多他们建筑
没有规则和规章。
07:04
For example, I took my two-year-old son to the playground at the Dubai Mall.
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例如,我带我2岁的儿子到迪拜购物中心的游乐场。
07:07
And I've taken him to playgrounds all over the United States.
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我也曾带我2岁的儿子到全美的游乐场玩。
07:10
And when you put your two-year-old on a slide in the United States,
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在美国你把你2岁儿子放到滑梯,
美国人把滑梯设计得
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they put something on the slide
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to slow the kid down as he comes down the slide.
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可以减缓孩子下滑的速度,他就顺着滑梯慢慢下来。
07:19
Not in the Middle East.
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这不会发生在中东。
07:20
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
07:23
I put my two-year-old on the slide, he went whoosh! He took off!
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我把2岁儿子放到滑梯,他滋溜一下滑了出去。
07:26
(Laughter)
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我下去接,我问,“我儿子到哪去了?”
07:27
I went down and, "Where's my son?" "On the third floor, sir. Third floor."
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“在第三层楼,先生。在第三层。”
(笑声)
07:31
(Laughter)
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07:33
"You take a taxi. You go to Zara. Make a left."
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“你要打的,到Zara,再左转。”
07:35
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
07:38
"Try the yogurt. It's very good. Little expensive."
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“尝尝冷冻酸奶。它非常棒,一点点贵。”
07:40
(Laughter)
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07:42
But one thing I try to do with my stand-up is break stereotypes.
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我在喜剧团要做的事其中之一是打破陈见旧习。
我也因自己的成见而自责。
07:46
And I've been guilty of stereotyping as well.
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我曾在迪拜。在当地有很多印度人打工。
07:48
I was in Dubai. And there's a lot of Indians who work in Dubai.
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他们的待遇很差。
07:51
And they don't get paid that well.
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07:52
And I got it in my head that all the Indians must be workers.
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在我脑海中,那里的所有印度人必是工人。
我忘记了在迪拜也明显有成功的印度人。
07:55
I forgot there's obviously successful Indians in Dubai too.
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我在做一个节目,
07:58
I was doing a show, and they said, "We'll send a driver to pick you up."
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团队说,“我们派人来接送你。”
08:01
I went down to the lobby, and saw this Indian guy.
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当我走出大厅,看到一个印度人。
我想,“他可能是我的司机。”
08:04
I go, "He must be my driver,"
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08:05
since he's standing there in a cheap suit, thin mustache, staring at me.
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因为他穿着便宜的西服站在那儿,留着小胡子,盯着我。
所以我过去问,“打扰一下,先生,你是我的司机吗?”
08:09
I say, "Excuse me, are you my driver?"
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他回复,“不,先生,我是酒店的主人。”
08:11
He goes, "No, sir. I own the hotel."
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08:12
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
08:17
I go, "I'm sorry! Why were you staring at me?"
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我说,“很抱歉。那么你为什么盯着我?”
08:19
He goes, "I thought you were my driver."
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他说,“我认为你是我的司机。””
08:21
(Laughter)
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(掌声)
08:24
(Applause)
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08:32
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
08:35
I'll leave you with this: I try, with my stand-up, to break stereotypes,
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我给你们大家展示的是:我尽力,以我们的喜剧团表演去打破成见旧习,
08:38
present Middle Easterners and Muslims in a positive light.
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从积极正面的角度展示中东人们和穆斯林人们,
我也希望在未来几年,
08:41
I hope that in the coming years,
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08:43
more film and television programs come out of Hollywood,
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更多好莱坞的电影和电视节目
08:45
presenting us in a positive light.
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从积极正面角度展现我们中东人和穆斯林人。
08:47
Who knows? Maybe one day, we'll even have our own James Bond. Right?
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谁晓得呢,说不准哪一天我们也会有我们自己的007詹姆斯.邦德超级特工,对吧。
08:51
"My name is Bond.
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“我的名字是邦德,贾马勒.邦德。”
08:52
Jamal Bond."
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(笑声)
08:54
(Laughter)
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08:55
Til then, I'll keep telling jokes. Hope you keep laughing.
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我会一直讲笑话。我希望大家继续开怀一笑。
祝大家愉快。谢谢。
08:58
Have a good day. Thank you.
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08:59
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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