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譯者: Marie Wu
審譯者: Zhu Jie
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I was one of the founding members
of the Axis of Evil Comedy Tour.
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我是邪惡軸心國喜劇巡演
的發起成員之一,
00:19
The other founding members
included Ahmed Ahmed,
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其他成員包括阿馬德(喜劇演員兼導演),
00:22
who is an Egyptian-American,
who actually had the idea
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他是埃及裔美國人,
就是他提出去中東巡演這個點子的,他也到那裡表演了。
00:25
to go to the Middle East and try it out
before we went out as a tour.
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在我們成為團體進行巡演之前,
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He went out solo and did it first.
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他已經在那裡獨挑大樑了。
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Then there was Aron Kader,
who was the Palestinian-American.
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還有阿朗.卡達,他是巴勒斯坦裔美國人,
00:33
And then there was me,
the Iranian-American of the group.
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最後就是我,伊朗裔美國人。
00:36
Now, being Iranian-American
presents its own set of problems,
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身為一個伊朗裔美國人,
我有別人沒有的問題。
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as you know.
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00:40
Those two countries
aren't getting along these days.
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你知道,這二個國家最近處得不太好,
00:42
So it causes a lot of inner
conflict, you know,
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所以我內心有很多衝突,
00:45
like part of me likes me,
part of me hates me.
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就像是有一半的我喜歡自己,另一半卻討厭自己;
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(Laughter)
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00:48
Part of me thinks I should
have a nuclear program,
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我自身一部分認為伊朗有核計畫,
00:50
the other part thinks
I can't be trusted with one.
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另一部分又認為美國不可信。
00:53
These are dilemmas I have every day.
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我每天都處於這種天人交戰狀態。
00:55
But I was born in Iran;
I'm now an American citizen,
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我出生在伊朗,現在是美國公民,
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which means I have the American passport,
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也就是我有美國護照,
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which means I can travel.
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我可以自由地旅行。
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Because if you only have
the Iranian passport,
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因為如果你只有伊朗的護照,
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you're kind of limited to the countries
you can go to with open arms,
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歡迎你到訪的國家
就不會太多--
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you know -- Syria, Venezuela, North Korea.
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只有敘利亞、委內瑞拉和北韓。
01:11
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
01:14
So, anyone who's gotten their passport
in America will tell you,
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任何持有美國護照的人,
都會告訴你,
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when you get it, it still says
what country you were born in.
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護照上會註明你的出生地。
01:20
So I remember getting
my American passport.
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我還記得當我拿到我的美國護照時,
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I was like, "Woo-hoo!
I'm going to travel."
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我心想:「哇!我可以去旅行了!」
01:24
And I opened it up, it said, "Born
in Iran." I'm like, "Oh, come on, man!"
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但護照上面竟然寫著「伊朗出生」,我心想:「噢!拜託!」
(笑聲)
01:28
(Laughter)
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01:29
"I'm trying to go places."
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「我想去很多地方耶...」
01:30
(Laughter)
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01:31
But what's interesting is,
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有趣的是,在我使用我的美國護照
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I've never had trouble in any Western
countries with my American passport,
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到西方國家遊玩的時候,從沒遇過麻煩,
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even though it says,
"Born in Iran" -- no problems.
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就算護照上寫著「伊朗出生」,也一樣沒問題。
01:38
Where I've had problems
is in some of the Arab countries.
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但我去阿拉伯國家旅行時,卻遇到一些問題,
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I guess some of the Arab countries
aren't getting along with Iran either.
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我想可能是阿拉伯國家和伊朗也處得不好吧!
最近我去了科威特,
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So I was in Kuwait recently,
doing a comedy show
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要和其他美國喜劇演員同台表演,
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with some other American comedians.
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當他們都通過海關後,海關官員看著我的美國護照說:
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They all went through.
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01:50
Then the border patrol saw my American
passport: "Ah-ha! American, great."
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「啊哈!美國人,很好!」
01:53
Then he opened it up.
"Born in Iran? Wait."
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然後他打開我的護照:「伊朗出生?等一下。」
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
01:57
And he started asking me questions.
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他開始問我一些問題,
01:59
He said, "What is your father's name?"
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他說:「你父親叫什麼名字?」
02:01
I said, "Well, he's passed away,
but his name was Khosro."
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我說:「哦,他過世了,他叫胡思羅。」
02:04
He goes, "What
is your grandfather's name?"
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他繼續問:「那你祖父叫什麼名字?」
我說:「他過世好久了,
02:07
I said, "He passed away a long time ago.
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他叫賈巴。」
02:09
His name was Jabbar."
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02:10
He says, "You wait. I'll be back,"
and he walked away.
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他說:「你等一下,我馬上回來。」然後他就走開了。
我開始胡思亂想,
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And I started freaking out,
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02:14
because I don't know what kind
of crap my grandfather was into.
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我不知道我祖父惹了什麼麻煩,
(笑聲)
02:17
(Laughter)
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我以為那傢伙會回來告訴我:
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Thought the guy was going
to come back and be like,
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「我們已經追查你二百年了,」
02:22
"We've been looking
for you for 200 years."
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(笑聲)
02:24
(Laughter)
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02:27
"Your grandfather has
a parking violation. It's way overdue.
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「你祖父違規停車,罰單已經過期很久了,
你欠我們二十億元。」
02:31
You owe us two billion dollars."
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02:32
(Laughter)
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02:34
But as you can see, when I talk,
I speak with an American accent,
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當我說話的時候,你們可以聽出
我有美國口音,你以為我不過是
02:37
which you would think,
as an Iranian-American actor,
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一個伊朗裔的美國演員,
02:40
I should be able to play any part,
good, bad, what have you.
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我應該可以扮演任何角色,好人、壞人都可以,
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But a lot of times in Hollywood,
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但在好萊塢,
02:44
when casting directors find out
you're of Middle Eastern descent,
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通常當選角導演發現你有中東血統後,
02:47
they go, "Oh, you're Iranian. Great!
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他們就會說:「噢,原來你是伊朗人啊,太好了!
02:49
Can you say 'I will kill you
in the name of Allah?'"
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你會不會說『我要以真主阿拉之名殺死你』?」
02:52
I go, "I could say that,
but what if I were to say,
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「可以啊,但我可不可以演一個醫生?
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'Hello. I'm your doctor'?"
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『哈囉,我是你的主治醫生』」
02:56
They go, "Great! And then
you hijack the hospital."
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他們回答:「好,然後你劫持醫院。」
02:58
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
03:04
Like, I think you're
missing the point here.
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我猜你們一定不知道我在堅持什麼,
03:07
Don't get me wrong,
I don't mind playing bad guys.
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別誤會,我並不介意扮演壞人,
03:09
I want to play a bad guy.
I want to rob a bank.
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我還很想演壞人哩...我想要搶銀行,
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I want to rob a bank in a film,
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我想要在電影裡搶銀行,我想在電影裡扮演搶匪,
03:13
but do it with a gun, not with a bomb
strapped around me, right?
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用槍指著大家搶銀行,而不是在身上纏著炸彈,對吧?
03:16
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
03:18
Because I imagine the director:
"Maz, I think your character
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我認為導演一定會說:「莫茲,你的角色是一個
身上纏著炸彈的銀行搶匪。」
03:21
would rob the bank
with a bomb around him."
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03:23
"Why would I do that?
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「為什麼我要這樣做?
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If I want the money,
why would I kill myself?"
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如果我想要的是錢,為什麼我要炸死自己?」
03:28
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
對吧?
03:31
Right?
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03:32
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
03:35
"Gimme all your money,
or I'll blow myself up!"
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「把錢全都交出來,不然我就炸死自己!」
03:37
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
03:41
"Well, then blow yourself up.
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「噢,那就請便吧,
03:43
(Laughter)
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03:44
Just do it outside, please."
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要炸請到外面去炸。」
03:46
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
03:50
But the fact is, there's good
people everywhere.
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其實世界上每個地方都有好人,
03:52
That's what I try and show in my stand-up,
good people everywhere.
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這是我表演的重要主題,每個地方都有好人,
只是一粒老鼠屎壞了一鍋粥。
03:55
All it takes in one person to mess it up.
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就像幾個月之前,在紐約時報廣場上,
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Like a couple months ago
in Times Square in New York,
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有個巴基斯坦回教徒試圖引爆一枚汽車炸彈,
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there was a Pakistani Muslim guy
who tried to blow up a car bomb.
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那天晚上,我正巧就在時報廣場
04:03
Now, I happened to be in Times Square
that night doing a comedy show.
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表演一個喜劇節目;
04:06
And a few months before that, there
was a white American guy in Austin, Texas
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而在那之前的幾個月,有一個德州奧斯汀的美國白人,
把飛機開到國稅局大樓裡,
04:10
who flew his airplane
into the IRS building,
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04:12
and I happened to be in Austin that day
doing a stand-up comedy show.
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那天也很巧,我也在奧斯汀
表演我的喜劇節目。
04:17
Now I'll tell you,
as a Middle-Eastern male,
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我得告訴你們,身為一個中東男性,
04:19
when you show up around a lot
of these activities,
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當我出現在這些犯罪現場附近時,
04:22
you start feeling guilty at one point.
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我開始覺得有罪惡感了,
04:24
(Laughter)
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我一邊看著新聞,一邊想:「我有參與這些犯罪嗎?」
04:25
I was watching the news. I'm like,
"Am I involved in this crap?"
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(笑聲)
04:28
(Laughter)
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04:33
"I didn't get the memo. What's going on?"
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「我沒收到通知啊...到底發生什麼事了?」
04:35
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
04:37
But what was interesting was,
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有趣的是,那個巴基斯坦回教徒--
04:38
the Pakistani Muslim guy --
see, he gives a bad name to Muslims
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他把所有回教徒的名聲都玷污了,
04:41
and Middle Easterners and Pakistanis
from all over the world.
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還把全世界的中東人和巴基斯坦人的名聲也弄壞了,
04:44
And one thing that happened there
was also the Pakistani Taliban
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但是,巴基斯坦的塔利班
04:47
took credit for that failed car bombing.
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竟搶著為這次失敗的汽車爆炸案居功。
04:50
My question is: Why would you take credit
for a failed car bombing?
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我的問題是:一個失敗的汽車爆炸案,
有什麼功好搶的?
04:54
"We just want to say:
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「我們只想說,
04:56
we tried."
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我們試過了。」
04:58
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
05:02
"And furthermore ...
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「畢竟,
05:03
(Laughter)
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有心最重要。」
05:05
it is the thought that counts."
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05:06
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
05:08
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
05:15
"And in conclusion, win some, lose some."
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「最後你總會得到一些,又失去一些。」
05:17
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
05:19
But what happened was, when the white guy
flew his plane into the building,
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其實,當那個白人開著飛機飛進那個大樓時,
我知道所有我在美國的中東朋友和回教徒朋友們,
05:23
I know all my Middle Eastern
and Muslim friends in the States
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都在一邊看著電視,一邊祈禱:「拜託,不要是中東人,
05:25
were watching TV, going,
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不要是海珊,不要是胡笙。」
05:27
"Please, don't be Middle Eastern.
Don't be Hassan or Hussein."
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當新聞宣布那人的名字是傑克時,我大叫:「哇!
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And the name came out: Jack.
I'm like, "Woooo! That's not one of us!"
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不是我們!」
05:34
But I kept watching the news
in case they came back,
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但我還是一直盯著新聞,我怕他們會突然發現:
「在他犯下這起案件之前,他改信了回教。」
05:37
and were like, "Before he did it,
he converted to Islam."
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「該死!為什麼是傑克?為什麼?」
05:39
"Damn it! Why Jack? Why?"
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05:43
But the fact is, I've been lucky
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事實上,我一直都很幸運,
05:45
to get a chance to perform
all over the world,
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我有機會到全世界各地去表演,
05:47
and I did a lot of shows
in the Middle East.
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我也有中東表演過很多次,
05:49
I just did a seven-country solo tour.
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我剛剛才結束七個國家的個人巡迴演出。
05:51
I was in Oman, and I was in Saudi Arabia.
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我去了阿曼、沙烏地阿拉伯,
還有杜拜。
05:54
I was in Dubai.
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05:55
And it's great, there's good
people everywhere.
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整個巡迴演出都很棒,每個地方都有好人,
05:57
And you learn great things
about these places.
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你會在這些國家學到一些很棒的事,
05:59
I encourage people always
to go visit these places.
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所以我鼓勵大家多去這些國家旅行。
舉例來說,杜拜就是一個很酷的地方,
06:02
For example, Dubai -- cool place.
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06:03
They're obsessed with having the biggest,
tallest, longest, as we all know.
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他們很喜歡最大、最高、最長的東西,
杜拜有一個商城,叫做杜拜商城,
06:07
They have a mall there, the Dubai Mall.
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那個商城很大,裡面竟然還有計程車在跑,
06:09
It is so big, they have taxis in the mall.
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06:11
I was walking. I heard, "Beep! Beep!"
I'm like, "What are you doing here?"
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我一邊逛街,一邊還聽到「叭,叭」
我說:「計程車怎麼跑進來了?」
06:15
He goes, "I'm going to the Zara store.
It's three miles away.
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他回答:「我要去撒拉商店,那裡離這裡還有三哩遠,
讓路,讓路,讓路。」
06:18
Out of my way. Out of my way.
Out of my way."
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06:20
(Laughter)
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06:22
And what's crazy -- there's a recession
going on, even in Dubai,
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最瘋狂的是,全世界都在經濟不景氣,即使杜拜也一樣,
但你從杜拜的物價卻看不出不景氣,
06:25
but you wouldn't know by the prices.
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06:26
Like in the Dubai Mall,
they sell frozen yogurt by the gram.
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像是在杜拜商城,
他們的冰淇淋優格是以公克來計價,
06:31
It's like a drug deal.
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就像販賣毒品一樣。
06:33
I was walking by. The guy goes,
"Psst! Habibi, my friend."
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我走過那家店的時候,有一個傢伙說:「嘿,老兄,
06:36
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
06:38
"You want some frozen yogurt?
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「要不要來點冰淇淋優格?
06:40
(Laughter)
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06:41
Come here. Come here. Come here.
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來,來,來,
06:43
I have one gram, five gram, 10 gram.
How many gram do you want?"
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我有一公克、五公克、十公克,你要多少公克?」
06:46
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
06:47
I bought five grams. 10 dollars.
10 dollars! I said, "What's in this?"
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我買了五公克,十塊美金,十塊美金耶!我說:「裡面有什麼?」
06:51
He's like, "Good stuff, man.
Colombian. Top of the line."
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他說:「好東西啦,老兄。哥倫比亞來的哦,高檔貨,高檔貨啦!」
06:54
(Laughter)
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還有一件有趣的事,
06:55
The other thing you learn
when you travel in these countries,
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就是你到中東國家、拉丁美洲國家、
06:57
in the Middle East, Latin American,
South American countries,
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南美洲國家旅行時會發現,
07:00
a lot of times when they build stuff,
there's no rules and regulations.
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他們在建造設施時,
經常是沒有規則也沒有法規規範的,
07:04
For example, I took my two-year-old son
to the playground at the Dubai Mall.
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舉例來說,我帶我二歲的兒子到杜拜商城裡的遊樂場玩,
07:07
And I've taken him to playgrounds
all over the United States.
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我那二歲的兒子已經玩遍了全美國各地的遊樂場了,
07:10
And when you put your two-year-old
on a slide in the United States,
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而在美國,當你把二歲小孩放在滑溜梯上時,
你會看到滑溜梯上有些止滑裝置,
07:14
they put something on the slide
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07:16
to slow the kid down
as he comes down the slide.
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可以降低小孩滑下來的速度。
07:19
Not in the Middle East.
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中東可不一樣,
07:20
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
07:23
I put my two-year-old on the slide,
he went whoosh! He took off!
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我把小孩放上滑溜梯後,他就飛出去了!
07:26
(Laughter)
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我跑下來,我說:「我兒子哩?」
07:27
I went down and, "Where's my son?"
"On the third floor, sir. Third floor."
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「在三樓哦,先生,在三樓。」
(笑聲)
07:31
(Laughter)
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07:33
"You take a taxi.
You go to Zara. Make a left."
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「搭計程車,去撒拉商店,左轉。」
07:35
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
07:38
"Try the yogurt. It's very good.
Little expensive."
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「嚐嚐這個優格,很棒哦,有一點貴。」
07:40
(Laughter)
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07:42
But one thing I try to do
with my stand-up is break stereotypes.
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在我的表演裡,我希望能打破一些刻板印象,
當然我對自己存有某些刻板印象感到羞愧。
07:46
And I've been guilty
of stereotyping as well.
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我在杜拜的時候,看到有許多印度人在杜拜工作,
07:48
I was in Dubai. And there's a lot
of Indians who work in Dubai.
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但他們薪資並不高,
07:51
And they don't get paid that well.
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07:52
And I got it in my head that all
the Indians must be workers.
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所以我以為所有在杜拜的印度人都是勞工,
我忘記了在杜拜一定也有很成功的印度人。
07:55
I forgot there's obviously
successful Indians in Dubai too.
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那時我在杜拜表演,
07:58
I was doing a show, and they said,
"We'll send a driver to pick you up."
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那邊的人說:「我們會請司機去載你。」
08:01
I went down to the lobby,
and saw this Indian guy.
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所以我走到大廳,看到一個印度人在那裡,
我就想:「他一定是我的司機。」
08:04
I go, "He must be my driver,"
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08:05
since he's standing there in a cheap
suit, thin mustache, staring at me.
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因為他穿著一身廉價的西裝,留著一撮小鬍子,還盯著我看,
所以我走過去說:「抱歉,先生,你是我的司機嗎?」
08:09
I say, "Excuse me, are you my driver?"
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他回我說:「我不是,先生!這間飯店是我開的!」
08:11
He goes, "No, sir. I own the hotel."
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08:12
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
08:17
I go, "I'm sorry!
Why were you staring at me?"
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我說:「很抱歉,但你幹嘛盯著我看?」
08:19
He goes, "I thought you were my driver."
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他回答:「我以為你才是我的司機哩!」
08:21
(Laughter)
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(掌聲)
08:24
(Applause)
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08:32
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
08:35
I'll leave you with this: I try,
with my stand-up, to break stereotypes,
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我想說的是:我試著在我的表演中,打破各種刻板印象,
08:38
present Middle Easterners
and Muslims in a positive light.
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以正面的方式呈現中東人,以正面的方式呈現回教徒,
我希望在未來的幾年內,
08:41
I hope that in the coming years,
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08:43
more film and television programs
come out of Hollywood,
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好萊塢所拍的電影和電視節目,
08:45
presenting us in a positive light.
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能以正面形象來呈現我們。
08:47
Who knows? Maybe one day,
we'll even have our own James Bond. Right?
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誰知道,或許某天我們會有自己的詹姆士.龐德,對吧?
08:51
"My name is Bond.
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「我是龐德,賈莫爾.龐德。」
08:52
Jamal Bond."
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(笑聲)
08:54
(Laughter)
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08:55
Til then, I'll keep telling jokes.
Hope you keep laughing.
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在那之前,我會一直講笑話來逗你們笑,
祝各位有美好的一天,謝謝!
08:58
Have a good day. Thank you.
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08:59
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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