David Hanson: Robots that "show emotion"

Prevodilac: Jelena Nedjic Lektor: Ana Zivanovic-Nenadovic

I'm Dr. David Hanson, and I build robots with character.

Ja sam dr Dejvid Henson i ja pravim robote sa karakterom.

And by that, I mean

Pri tome mislim

that I develop robots that are characters,

da stvaram robote određenog karaktera,

but also robots that will eventually

ali isto tako i robote koji će na kraju

come to empathize with you.

saosećati sa vama.

So we're starting with a variety of technologies

Počeli smo sa primenom različitih tehnologija

that have converged into these conversational character robots

koje su zajedno primenjene kod ovih robota sa karakterom koji govore,

that can see faces, make eye contact with you,

koji mogu videti lica, uspostavljaju konakt očima sa vama,

make a full range of facial expressions, understand speech

ispoljavaju puni spektar facijalnih ekspresija, razumeju govor

and begin to model how you're feeling

i počinju da modeluju kako se osećate

and who you are, and build a relationship with you.

i ko ste vi, i mogu da izgrade odnos sa vama.

I developed a series of technologies

Razvio sam čitav serijal tehnologija

that allowed the robots to make more realistic facial expressions

koje omogućuju ovim robotima da prave uverljivije izraze lica

than previously achieved, on lower power,

u odnosu na ranije postignute, uz manje energije,

which enabled the walking biped robots, the first androids.

koji je omogućio robotima da hodaju na dve noge, to su prvi androidi.

So, it's a full range of facial expressions

Tako da pričamo o punom spektru izraza lica

simulating all the major muscles in the human face,

koji simuliraju glavne mišiće ljudskog lica,

running on very small batteries,

a napajaju se veoma malim baterijama

extremely lightweight.

neverovatno lake težine.

The materials that allowed the battery-operated facial expressions

Materijal koji je omogućio da uspostavimo ove facijalne ekspresije kojim

is a material that we call Frubber,

upravljaju baterije nazivamo "Frubber",

and it actually has three major innovations

i u njemu su satkana tri glavna izuma

in the material that allow this to happen.

koji omogućavaju da se to desi.

One is hierarchical pores,

Pre svega, hijerarhija pora,

and the other is a macro-molecular nanoscale porosity in the material.

i druga stvar su makro-molekularne nanomreže poroznsoti u materijalu.

There he's starting to walk.

Ovde počinje da korača.

This is at the Korean Advanced Institute of Science and Technology.

Ovo se dešava na Institutu za naprednu nauku i tehnologiju u Koreji.

I built the head. They built the body.

Ja sam napravio glavu. Oni su napravili telo.

So the goal here is to achieve sentience in machines,

Naš cilj je da osposobimo mašine da osećaju

and not just sentience, but empathy.

i ne samo da osećaju, već i da saosećaju.

We're working with the Machine Perception Laboratory

Sarađujemo sa laboratorijom koja se bavi percepcijom kod mašina

at the U.C. San Diego.

na Univerzitetu Kalifornije u San Dijegu.

They have this really remarkable facial expression technology

Oni poseduju zadivljujuću tehnologiju kontrole facijalne ekspresije

that recognizes facial expressions,

pomoću koje je moguće prepoznati izraze lica,

what facial expressions you're making.

tip izraza lica koje ispoljavate.

It also recognizes where you're looking, your head orientation.

Takođe uočava šta posmatrate, položaj vaše glave.

We're emulating all the major facial expressions,

Mi oponašamo glavne izraze lica

and then controlling it with the software

a potom ih uz pomoć softvera kontrolišemo,

that we call the Character Engine.

a to nazivamo "Mašina sa karakterom".

And here is a little bit of the technology that's involved in that.

Ovo je mali prikaz tehnologije koju za to koristimo.

In fact, right now -- plug it from here, and then plug it in here,

U stvari, sada ćemo da ga uključimo ovde, pa uključimo tamo,

and now let's see if it gets my facial expressions.

i videćemo da li uočava moj izraz lica.

Okay. So I'm smiling.

Okej. Smešim se.

(Laughter)

(smeh)

Now I'm frowning.

Sada se mrštim.

And this is really heavily backlit.

Ovo je snažno osvetljeno od pozadi.

Okay, here we go.

Okej, idemo.

Oh, it's so sad.

Ah, tako je tužno.

Okay, so you smile, frowning.

Okej, smešiš se, mrštiš.

So his perception of your emotional states

Njegova percepcija vašeg emotivnog stanja

is very important for machines to effectively become empathetic.

je veoma značajna kako bi mašine postale efektivno empatične.

Machines are becoming devastatingly capable

Mašine postaju nezamislivo vešte u

of things like killing. Right?

ubijanju. Zar ne?

Those machines have no place for empathy.

Kod takvih mašina nema mesta za empatiju.

And there is billions of dollars being spent on that.

Trošimo milijarde dolara na to.

Character robotics could plant the seed

Robotika sa karakterom može utrti put za razvoj

for robots that actually have empathy.

robota koji zaista saosećaju.

So, if they achieve human level intelligence

Ukoliko dosegnu ljudski nivo inteligencije,

or, quite possibly, greater than human levels of intelligence,

ili, što je verovatno, premaše ljudski nivo inteligencije,

this could be the seeds of hope for our future.

to bi moglo da bude seme nade za budućnost.

So, we've made 20 robots in the last eight years, during the course of getting my Ph.D.

U toku poslednjih osam godina, za vreme izrade mog doktorata, napravili smo 20 robota.

And then I started Hanson Robotics,

Potom sam osnovao firmu Henson Robotika,

which has been developing these things for mass manufacturing.

koja se bavi razvojem ovih stvari za masovnu proizvodnju.

This is one of our robots

Ovo je jedan od naših robota kog

that we showed at Wired NextFest a couple of years ago.

smo prikazali na "Wired NextFest" manifestaciji pre dve godine.

And it sees multiple people in a scene,

Ono vidi mnogo ljudi na sceni,

remembers where individual people are,

pamti gde su pojedine osobe,

and looks from person to person, remembering people.

i posmatra i pamti osobu po osobu.

So, we're involving two things.

Uključujemo tu dve stvari.

One, the perception of people,

Pod jedan, uočavanje ljudi

and two, the natural interface,

i pod dva, prirodni izgled uređaja,

the natural form of the interface,

izgled prirodnog oblika,

so that it's more intuitive for you to interact with the robot.

kako bi vam bilo prirodnije da imate interakciju sa robotom.

You start to believe that it's alive and aware.

Počinjete da verujete da je živ i svestan.

So one of my favorite projects was bringing all this stuff together

Jedan od mojih omiljenih projekata je za zadatak imao da sve ovo spoji

in an artistic display of an android portrait

u umetničkom prikazu portreta androida

of science-fiction writer Philip K. Dick,

u liku pisca naučne fantastike Filipa K. Dika,

who wrote great works like, "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?"

on je napisao dela kao što je "Da li androidi sanjaju o električnim ovcama?"

which was the basis of the movie "Bladerunner."

po kom je snimljen film "Bladerunner".

In these stories, robots often think

Često u ovim pričama robot

that they're human, and they sort of come to life.

misli da je ljudsko biće, i na neki način roboti ožive.

So we put his writings, letters,

Tako da smo od njegovih pisanih dela, pisama,

his interviews, correspondences,

intervjua, prepiski,

into a huge database of thousands of pages,

napravili ogormnu bazu podataka od hiljada stranica,

and then used some natural language processing

a potom smo primenili prirodni procesor jezika

to allow you to actually have a conversation with him.

kako bismo vam omogućili da vodite razgovor sa njim.

And it was kind of spooky, because he would say these things

Bilo je zastrašujuće na neki način, jer stvari koje je izgovarao su

that just sounded like they really understood you.

zvučale kao da vas je zaista razumeo.

And this is one of the most exciting projects that we're developing,

Ovo je jedan od najuzbudljivijih projekata koje razvijamo,

which is a little character that's a spokesbot

a to je robot koji priča, mališan

for friendly artificial intelligence, friendly machine intelligence.

koji predstavlja prijateljsku, veštačku inteligenciju, prijateljsku, inteligentnu mašinu.

And we're getting this mass-manufactured.

Mi ovo masovno proizvodimo.

We specked it out to actually be doable

Pojednostavili smo proces tako da možemo to da napravimo

with a very, very low-cost bill of materials,

od veoma jeftinog materijala,

so that it can become a childhood companion for kids.

pa može postati prijatelj u detinjstvu.

Interfacing with the Internet, it gets smarter over the years.

Komunicira sa internetom, postaje pametniji kako godine prolaze.

As artificial intelligence evolves, so does his intelligence.

Njegova inteligencija evoluira sa evolucijom veštačke inteligencije.

Chris Anderson: Thank you so much. That's incredible.

Kris Anderson: Hvala puno. Ovo je neverovatno.

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