Alec Soth + Stacey Baker: This is what enduring love looks like

Prevodilac: Milica Radenkovic Lektor: Tijana Mihajlović

Alec Soth: So about 10 years ago, I got a call from a woman in Texas,

Alek Sot: I tako, pre deset godina, pozvala me je žena is Teksasa,

Stacey Baker,

Stejsi Bejker,

and she'd seen some of my photographs in an art exhibition

ona je videla neke od mojih fotografija na izložbi

and was wondering if she could commission me to take a portrait of her parents.

i pitala je da li bi mogla da me unajmi da uradim portet njenih roditelja.

Now, at the time I hadn't met Stacey, and I thought this was some sort of

Sad, u to vreme nisam bio sreo Stejsi i mislio sam da je

wealthy oil tycoon and I'd struck it rich,

bogati naftaški tajkun i da ću se obogatiti preko noći,

but it was only later that I found out

ali tek sam kasnije saznao

she'd actually taken out a loan to make this happen.

da je ona zapravo uzela kredit da bi ovo ostvarila.

I took the picture of her parents,

Fotografisao sam njene roditelje,

but I was actually more excited about photographing Stacey.

ali sam zapravo bio više uzbuđen oko fotografisanja Stejsi.

The picture I made that day

Slika koju sam napravio tog dana

ended up becoming one of my best-known portraits.

postala je jedan od mojih najpoznatijih portreta.

At the time I made this picture, Stacey was working as an attorney

U vreme kada sam napravio ovu sliku, Stejsi je radila kao advokat

for the State of Texas.

za državu Teksas.

Not long after, she left her job to study photography in Maine,

Ubrzo potom, napustila je svoj posao da bi studirala fotografiju u Mejnu

and while she was there, she ended up meeting

i dok je bila tamo, upoznala je

the director of photography at the New York Times Magazine

direktora fotografije časopisa „Njujork Tajms”

and was actually offered a job.

i bio joj je ponuđen posao.

Stacey Baker: In the years since, Alec and I have done

Stejsi Bejker: Tokom narednih godina, Alek i ja smo uradili

a number of magazine projects together,

nekoliko projekata za časopise zajedno

and we've become friends.

i postali smo prijatelji.

A few months ago, I started talking to Alec about a fascination of mine.

Pre nekoliko meseci, počela sam da pričam Aleku o jednoj svojoj opsesiji.

I've always been obsessed with how couples meet.

Uvek sam bila opsednuta time kako se parovi upoznaju.

I asked Alec how he and his wife Rachel met,

Pitala sam Aleka kako su se on i njegova žena Rejčel upoznali

and he told me the story of a high school football game

i on mi je ispričao priču o fudbalskoj utakmici u srednjoj školi

where she was 16 and he was 15,

kada je ona imala 16, a on 15 godina

and he asked her out.

i on ju je pitao da izađu.

He liked her purple hair.

Svidela mu se njena ljubičasta kosa.

She said yes, and that was it.

Ona je rekla „da„” i to je bilo to.

I then asked Alec if he'd be interested in doing a photography project

Potom sam pitala Aleka da li bi radio fotografski projekat sa mnom

exploring this question.

koji bi istraživao ovo pitanje.

AS: And I was interested in the question, but I was actually much more interested

AS: I mene je zanimalo ovo pitanje, ali me je mnogo više zanimalo

in Stacey's motivation for asking it,

zašto Stejsi to traži,

particularly since I'd never known Stacey to have a boyfriend.

posebno zato što nikad pre toga nisam čuo da Stejsi ima dečka.

So as part of this project, I thought it'd be interesting

Tako, kao deo ovog projekta, pomislio sam da će da bude zanimljivo

if she tried to meet someone.

ako ona pokuša da upozna nekoga.

So my idea was to have Stacey here go speed dating

Moja ideja bila je da Stejsi ide na brzo upoznavanje

in Las Vegas on Valentine's Day.

u Las Vegasu na Dan zaljubljenih.

(Laughter) (Applause) (Music)

(Smeh) (Aplauz) (Muzika)

SB: Završili smo na događaju koji je reklamiran

SB: We ended up at what was advertised as the world's largest speed dating event.

kao najveće brzo upoznavanje na svetu.

I had 19 dates

Imala sam 19 sastanaka

and each date lasted three minutes.

i svaki sastanak je trajao tri minuta.

Participants were given a list of ice- breaker questions to get the ball rolling,

Učesnicima je data lista pitanja za probijanje leda kako bi stvari krenule,

things like, "If you could be any kind of animal, what would you be?"

tipa: „Kada biste mogli da budete bilo koja životinja, koja biste bili?”

That sort of thing.

Takve stvari.

My first date was Colin.

Moj prvi sastanak je bio sa Kolinom.

He's from England,

On je iz Engleske

and he once married a woman he met after placing an ad for a Capricorn.

i bio je oženjen ženom koju je upoznao nakon što je dao oglas za jarca.

Alec and I saw him at the end of the evening,

Alek i ja smo ga videli na kraju večeri

and he said he'd kissed a woman in line at one of the concession stands.

i ispričao je da je poljubio jednu ženu u redu ispred kioska za brzu hranu.

Zack and Chris came to the date-a-thon together.

Zek i Kris su došli na sastanke zajedno.

This is Carl.

Ovo je Karl.

I asked Carl, "What's the first thing you notice about a woman?"

Pitala sam Karla: „Šta je prvo što primetiš na ženi?”

He said, "Tits."

Rekao je: „Sise.”

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

Matthew is attracted to women with muscular calves.

Metjua privlače žene sa mišićavim listovima.

We talked about running. He does triathlons, I run half-marathons.

Pričali smo o trčanju.

On je triatlonac, ja trčim polumaraton.

Alec actually liked his eyes and asked if I was attracted to him, but I wasn't,

Aleku su se zapravo svidele njegove oči i pitao je da li mi se sviđa, ali nije,

and I don't think he was attracted to me either.

a mislim da ni ja njemu nisam bila privlačna.

Austin and Mike came together.

Ostin i Majk su došli zajedno.

Mike asked me a hypothetical question.

Majk mi je postavio hipotetičko pitanje.

He said, "You're in an elevator running late for a meeting.

Rekao je: „U liftu si, kasniš na sastanak.

Someone makes a dash for the elevator.

Neko trči ka liftu.

Do you hold it open for them?"

Da li zadržavaš lift za njega?”,

And I said I would not.

a ja sam rekla da ne bih to učinila.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

Cliff said the first thing he notices about a woman is her teeth,

Klif je rekao da je prva stvar koju primeti na ženi - njeni zubi

and we complimented each other's teeth.

i pohvalio je moje zube, a ja njegove.

Because he's an open mouth sleeper,

Zato što spava otvorenih usta,

he says he has to floss more to help prevent gum disease,

kaže da čisti zube koncem češće da bi sprečio bolest desni,

and so I asked him how often he flosses,

te sam ga pitala koliko često čisti zube koncem

and he said, "Every other day."

i rekao je: „Svaki drugi dan.”

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

Now, as someone who flosses twice a day,

Sad, kao neko ko koristi konac dva puta dnevno,

I wasn't really sure that that was flossing more

nisam bila sigurna da je to često korišćenje konca,

but I don't think I said that out loud.

ali mislim da to nisam rekla naglas.

Bill is an auditor,

Bil je revizor

and we talked the entire three minutes about auditing. (Laughter)

i pričali smo čitavih tri minuta o revizorstvu.

(Smeh)

The first thing Spencer notices about a woman is her complexion.

Prva stvar koju Spenser primeti na ženi je njen ten.

He feels a lot of women wear too much makeup,

On smatra da dosta žena nosi i suviše šminke

and that they should only wear enough to accentuate the features that they have.

i da bi trebalo da nose samo toliko da istaknu kvalitete koje imaju.

I told him I didn't wear any makeup at all

Rekla sam mu da ja uopšte ne nosim šminku

and he seemed to think that that was a good thing.

i izgleda da je mislio da je to dobro.

Craig told me he didn't think I was willing to be vulnerable.

Kreg mi je rekao da misli da nisam bila spremna da budem ranjiva.

He was also frustrated when I couldn't remember my most embarrassing moment.

Takođe je bio iznerviran kada nisam mogla

da se setim kada sam se najviše izblamirala.

He thought I was lying, but I wasn't.

Mislio je da lažem, ali nisam.

I didn't think he liked me at all, but at the end of the night,

Mislila sam da mu se uopšte nisam svidela, ali na kraju večeri,

he came back to me and he gave me a box of chocolates.

vratio se kod mene i dao mi kutiju čokolade.

William was really difficult to talk to.

Sa Vilijamom je stvarno bilo teško razgovarati.

I think he was drunk.

Mislim da je bio pijan.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

Actor Chris McKenna was the MC of the event.

Glumac Kris Mekena je bio domaćin događaja.

He used to be on "The Young and the Restless."

Glumio je u „Mladi i nestašni”.

I didn't actually go on a date with him.

Nisam zapravo otišla na sastanak sa njim.

Alec said he saw several women give their phone numbers to him.

Alek kaže da je video nekoliko žena kako mu daju svoj broj telefona.

Needless to say, I didn't fall in love.

Suvišno je reći, nisam se zaljubila.

I didn't feel a particular connection with any of the men that I went on dates with,

Nisam osetila posebnu povezanost ni sa jednim od muškaraca

sa kojima sam bila na sastanku,

and I didn't feel like they felt a particular connection with me either.

niti sam osetila da su oni osetili posebnu povezanost sa mnom.

AS: Now, the most beautiful thing to me --

AS: Sad, najlepša stvar za mene -

(Laughter) -- as a photographer is the quality of vulnerability.

(Smeh) - kao fotografa je ranjivost.

The physical exterior reveals a crack in which you can get a glimpse

Fizički spoljašnji prostor otkriva pukotinu kroz koju možete zaviriti

at a more fragile interior.

u osetljiviju unutrašnjost.

At this date-a-thon event, I saw so many examples of that,

Na ovom događaju, video sam mnogo primera toga,

but as I watched Stacey's dates and talked to her about them,

ali dok sam posmatrao Stejsine sastanke i razgovarao sa njom o njima,

I realized how different photographic love is from real love.

shvatio sam koliko je različita ljubav na fotografiji od stvarne ljubavi.

What is real love? How does it work?

Šta je prava ljubav? Kako funkcioniše?

In order to work on this question and to figure out how someone goes

Kako bih odgovorio na ovo pitanje i shvatio kako neko pređe put

from meeting on a date to having a life together,

od sastanka do zajedničkog života,

Stacey and I went to Sun City Summerlin,

Stejsi i ja smo otišli u San Siti Samerlin

which is the largest retirement community in Las Vegas.

koji je najveća zajednica penzionera u Las Vegasu.

Our contact there was George, who runs the community's photography club.

Naš posrednik tamo je bio Džordž, koji vodi fotografski klub u zajednici.

He arranged for us to meet other couples in their makeshift photo studio.

On je organizovao da upoznamo ostale parove u svom improvizovanom fotostudiju.

SB: After 45 years of marriage, Anastasia's husband died two years ago,

SB: Nakon 45 godina braka, Anastasijin muž je umro pre dve godine,

so we asked if she had an old wedding picture.

pa smo je pitali da li ima staru sliku sa venčanja.

She met her husband when she was a 15-year-old waitress

Upoznala je svog muža kad je imala 15 godina i radila kao konobarica

at a small barbecue place in Michigan.

u maloj roštiljnici u Mičingenu.

He was 30.

On je imao 30 godina.

She'd lied about her age.

Ona je lagala koliko ima godina.

He was the first person she'd dated.

On je bio prva osoba sa kojom se zabavljala.

Dean had been named photographer of the year in Las Vegas two years in a row,

Din je bio fotograf godine dve godine zaredom u Las Vegasu,

and this caught Alec's attention,

što je privuklo pažnju Aleku,

as did the fact that he met his wife, Judy,

kao i činjenica da je upoznao svoju ženu Džudi

at the same age when Alec met Rachel.

kada je imao isto godina koliko i Alek kada je upoznao Rejčel.

Dean admitted that he likes to look at beautiful women,

Din je priznao da voli da gleda lepe žene,

but he's never questioned his decision to marry Judy.

ali nikada nije preispitivao svoju odluku da oženi Džudi.

AS: George met Josephine at a parish dance.

AS: Džordž je upoznao Džozefin na igranci koju je organizovala parohija.

He was 18, she was 15.

On je imao 18, a ona 15 godina.

Like a lot of the couples we met, they weren't especially philosophical

Kao i dosta drugih parova koje smo upoznali,

oni nisu posebno filozofirali o svojim ranim izborima.

about their early choices.

George said something that really stuck with me.

Džordž je rekao nešto što mi se urezalo u pamćenje.

He said, "When you get that feeling, you just go with it."

Rekao je: „Kada te strefi taj osećaj, samo ga pratiš.”

Bob i Trudi u se upoznali na sastanku na slepo

Bob and Trudy met on a blind date when she was still in high school.

dok je ona još bila srednjoškolka.

They said they weren't particularly attracted to each other

Ispričali su da nisu osetili posebnu privlačnost između sebe

when the first met.

kada su se prvi put upoznali.

Nevertheless, they were married soon after.

Ipak, venčali su se ubrzo potom.

SB: The story that stayed with me the most

SB: Priča koja mi je bila najupečatljivija

was that of George, the photography club president, and his wife, Mary.

bila je priča o Džordžu, predsedniku fotokluba,

i njegovoj ženi Meri.

This was George and Mary's second marriage.

Ovo je bio drugi brak za oboje.

They met at a country-western club in Louisville, Kentucky called the Sahara.

Upoznali su se u klubu u Luivilu, u Kentakiju, koji se zvao Sahara.

He was there alone drinking and she was with friends.

On je bio tamo sam i pio, a ona je bila sa prijateljima.

When they started dating, he owed the IRS 9,000 dollars in taxes,

Kada su počeli da se zabavljaju, on je dugovao 9 000 dolara poreza

and she offered to help him get out of debt,

i ona se ponudila da mu pomogne da izađe iz dugova.

so for the next year, he turned his paychecks over to Mary,

pa je tokom sledeće godine svoja primanja davao Meri,

and she got him out of debt.

a ona ga je izvukla iz dugova.

George was actually an alcoholic when they married, and Mary knew it.

Džordž je zapravo bio alkoholičar kada su se venčali i Meri je to znala.

At some point in their marriage, he says he consumed

U jednom trenutku tokom braka, on kaže da je pio

54 beers in one day.

54 piva dnevno.

Another time, when he was drunk, he threatened to kill Mary

Jednom, kada je bio pijan, pretio je Meri da će ubiti nju

and her two kids,

i njeno dvoje dece,

but they escaped and a SWAT team was called to the house.

ali oni su pobegli, a žandarmerija je pozvana u kuću.

Amazingly, Mary took him back,

Začuđujuće, Meri ga je primila nazad

and eventually things got better.

i na kraju su se stvari popravile.

George has been involved in Alcoholics Anonymous

Džordž je išao na sastanke Anonimnih alkoholičara

and hasn't had a drink in 36 years.

i ne pije 36 godina.

(Music)

(Muzika)

At the end of the day, after we left Sun City,

Na kraju dana, kada smo napustili „Grad Sunca”,

I told Alec that I didn't actually think

rekla sam Aleku da zapravo ne mislim

that the stories of how these couples met were all that interesting.

da su priče ovih parova o tome kako su se upoznali zanimljive.

What was more interesting

Ono što je bilo zanimljivije

was how they managed to stay together.

je kako su uspeli da ostanu zajedno.

AS: They all had this beautiful quality of endurance,

AS: Svi su posedovali divnu sposobnost izdržljivosti,

but that was true of the singles, too.

ali poseduju je i samci, takođe.

The world is hard, and the singles were out there

Svet je surov, i samci odlaze u svet

trying to connect with other people,

pokušavajući da se povežu sa drugim ljudima,

and the couples were holding onto each other

a parovi se oslanjaju jedni na druge

after all these decades.

nakon svih ovih decenija.

My favorite pictures on this trip were of Joe and Roseanne.

Moja omiljena slika na ovom putovanju bila je slika Džoa i Rozane.

Now, by the time we met Joe and Roseanne,

Sad, u vreme kada smo upoznali Džoa i Rozanu

we'd gotten in the habit of asking couples if they had an old wedding photograph.

izgradili smo naviku da pitamo parove da li imaju staru sliku sa venčanja.

In their case, they simultaneously pulled out of their wallets

U njihovom slučaju, oboje su istovremeno izvadili iz novčanika

the exact same photograph.

potpuno istu fotografiju.

What's more beautiful, I thought to myself,

„Šta je lepše”, pomislio sam u sebi,

this image of a young couple who has just fallen in love

„ova slika mladog para koji se upravo zaljubio

or the idea of these two people holding onto this image for decades?

ili ideja da ovo dvoje ljudi nalazi oslonac u ovoj slici decenijama?”

Thank you.

Hvala vam.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)