Alec Soth + Stacey Baker: This is what enduring love looks like

Prevoditelj: Anja Kolobarić Recezent: Ivan Stamenković

Alec Soth: So about 10 years ago, I got a call from a woman in Texas,

Alex Soth: Prije desetak godina, nazvala me jedna Teksašanka

Stacey Baker,

Stacey Baker

and she'd seen some of my photographs in an art exhibition

koja je vidjele neke moje fotografije na umjetničkoj izložbi

and was wondering if she could commission me to take a portrait of her parents.

i zamolila me da napravim portret njezinih roditelja.

Now, at the time I hadn't met Stacey, and I thought this was some sort of

Tada još nisam upoznao Stacey, pa sam mislio da se radi

wealthy oil tycoon and I'd struck it rich,

o nekom tajkunu i da me sad čekaju velike pare,

but it was only later that I found out

ali tek sam kasnije saznao

she'd actually taken out a loan to make this happen.

da je podigla kredit da bi to omogućila.

I took the picture of her parents,

Fotografirao sam njezine roditelje,

but I was actually more excited about photographing Stacey.

ali više sam se veselio fotografiranju Stacey.

The picture I made that day

Fotografija koju sam tada uslikao

ended up becoming one of my best-known portraits.

postala je jedna od mojih najpoznatijih portreta.

At the time I made this picture, Stacey was working as an attorney

U to je vrijeme Stacey radila kao javna tužiteljica

for the State of Texas.

za Teksas.

Not long after, she left her job to study photography in Maine,

Nedugo zatim napustila je taj posao radi studija fotografije u Maineu

and while she was there, she ended up meeting

Tamo je upoznala

the director of photography at the New York Times Magazine

direktora fotografije za časopis New York Times

and was actually offered a job.

koji joj je ponudio posao.

Stacey Baker: In the years since, Alec and I have done

Stacey Baker: Otada smo Alec i ja zajedno odradili

a number of magazine projects together,

cijeli niz projekata za časopise

and we've become friends.

i postali prijatelji.

A few months ago, I started talking to Alec about a fascination of mine.

Prije nekoliko mjeseci Alecu sam počela pričati o jednoj svojoj fascinaciji.

I've always been obsessed with how couples meet.

Uvijek sam voljela priče o upoznavanju parova.

I asked Alec how he and his wife Rachel met,

Pitala sam Aleca kako su se njegova žena Rachel i on upoznali

and he told me the story of a high school football game

i ispričao mi je priču o srednjoškolskoj utakmici američkog nogometa.

where she was 16 and he was 15,

Njoj je bilo 16. godina, a njemu 15

and he asked her out.

i pozvao ju je na spoj.

He liked her purple hair.

Sviđala mu se njezina ljubičasta kosa,

She said yes, and that was it.

ona je pristala i to je bilo to.

I then asked Alec if he'd be interested in doing a photography project

Zatim sam Alecu predložila fotografski projekt

exploring this question.

koji bi se bavio tim pitanjem.

AS: And I was interested in the question, but I was actually much more interested

AS: Mene je to pitanje zanimalo, ali još me više zanimalo

in Stacey's motivation for asking it,

što je Stacey motiviralo na to,

particularly since I'd never known Stacey to have a boyfriend.

pogotovo s obzirom na to da nisam znao da Stacey ima dečka.

So as part of this project, I thought it'd be interesting

Kao dio projekta mislio sam da bi bilo zanimljivo

if she tried to meet someone.

kad bi pokušala upoznati nekoga.

So my idea was to have Stacey here go speed dating

Moja je ideja bila poslati Stacey na brzinske spojeve

in Las Vegas on Valentine's Day.

u Las Vegas na Valentinovo.

(Laughter) (Applause) (Music)

(Smijeh) (Pljesak) (Glazba)

SB: We ended up at what was advertised as the world's largest speed dating event.

SB: Završili smo na nečemu promoviranom kao najveći skup brzinskih spojeva.

I had 19 dates

Imala sam 19 spojeva

and each date lasted three minutes.

i svaki je spoj trajao tri minute.

Participants were given a list of ice- breaker questions to get the ball rolling,

Sudionicima su dana pitanja za probijanje leda da bi razgovor lakše tekao,

things like, "If you could be any kind of animal, what would you be?"

poput: "Kad bio mogao/la biti bilo koja životinja na svijetu, što bi izabrao/la?"

That sort of thing.

I slična pitanja.

My first date was Colin.

Prvi sam spoj imala s Colinom

He's from England,

iz Engleske.

and he once married a woman he met after placing an ad for a Capricorn.

On je nekoć oženio ženu koju je upoznao preko oglasa u kojem je tražio jarca.

Alec and I saw him at the end of the evening,

Alec i ja vidjeli smo ga na kraju večeri

and he said he'd kissed a woman in line at one of the concession stands.

i rekao nam je da je poljubio ženu koja je stajala u redu za jedan od štandova.

Zack and Chris came to the date-a-thon together.

Zack i Chris na ovaj su događaj došli zajedno.

This is Carl.

Ovo je Carl.

I asked Carl, "What's the first thing you notice about a woman?"

Pitala sam Carla što prvo primijeti na ženi.

He said, "Tits."

Odgovorio je: "Grudi."

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

Matthew is attracted to women with muscular calves.

Matthewa privlače žene mišićavih listova.

We talked about running. He does triathlons, I run half-marathons.

Razgovarali smo o trčanju. On trči triatlone, a ja polumaratone.

Alec actually liked his eyes and asked if I was attracted to him, but I wasn't,

Alecu su se svidjele njegove oči i pitao me privlači li me, ali rekoh ne,

and I don't think he was attracted to me either.

a mislim da ni ja njega nisam privlačila.

Austin and Mike came together.

Austin i Mike došli su zajedno.

Mike asked me a hypothetical question.

Mike mi je postavio hipotetsko pitanje:

He said, "You're in an elevator running late for a meeting.

"U dizalu si i kasniš na sastanak.

Someone makes a dash for the elevator.

Netko potrči prema dizalu.

Do you hold it open for them?"

Hoćeš li ga zadržati za njih?"

And I said I would not.

Rekoh: "Neću."

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

Cliff said the first thing he notices about a woman is her teeth,

Cliff je rekao da on na ženi najprije primijeti zube,

and we complimented each other's teeth.

pa smo jedno drugome pohvalili zube.

Because he's an open mouth sleeper,

Budući da spava otvorenih usta,

he says he has to floss more to help prevent gum disease,

kaže da mora češće koristiti zubni konac radi prevencije bolesti desni.

and so I asked him how often he flosses,

Pitala sam koliko često čisti zube zubnim koncem

and he said, "Every other day."

i rekao je: "Svaki drugi dan."

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

Now, as someone who flosses twice a day,

Budući da ja svoje čistim dvaput dnevno,

I wasn't really sure that that was flossing more

nisam bila sigurna da je to baš "češće",

but I don't think I said that out loud.

ali mislim da to nisam rekla naglas.

Bill is an auditor,

Bill je revizor

and we talked the entire three minutes about auditing. (Laughter)

i cijele te tri minute razgovarali smo o financijskoj reviziji. (Smijeh)

The first thing Spencer notices about a woman is her complexion.

Spencer na ženi najprije primijeti ten.

He feels a lot of women wear too much makeup,

Smatra da puno žena nosi previše šminke

and that they should only wear enough to accentuate the features that they have.

i da bi trebale nositi tek toliko da naglase svoje najjače strane.

I told him I didn't wear any makeup at all

Rekla sam mu da uopće ne nosim šminku

and he seemed to think that that was a good thing.

i on je to izgleda vidio kao pozitivnu stvar.

Craig told me he didn't think I was willing to be vulnerable.

Craig je mislio da nisam voljna biti ranjiva,

He was also frustrated when I couldn't remember my most embarrassing moment.

a frustriralo ga je i to što se nisam mogla sjetiti najneugodnijeg iskustva.

He thought I was lying, but I wasn't.

Mislio je da lažem, ali nisam lagala.

I didn't think he liked me at all, but at the end of the night,

Mislila sam da mu se uopće ne sviđam, ali na kraju večeri

he came back to me and he gave me a box of chocolates.

prišao mi je i dao mi bombonijeru.

William was really difficult to talk to.

S Williamom je bilo izrazito teško razgovarati.

I think he was drunk.

Mislim da je bio pijan.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

Actor Chris McKenna was the MC of the event.

Glumac Chris McKenna bio je organizator događaja.

He used to be on "The Young and the Restless."

Nekoć je glumio u seriji "Mladi i neobuzdani".

I didn't actually go on a date with him.

S njim nisam išla na spoj.

Alec said he saw several women give their phone numbers to him.

Alec je rekao da je vidio nekoliko žena kako mu daju svoj broj.

Needless to say, I didn't fall in love.

Ne treba ni reći da se nisam zaljubila.

I didn't feel a particular connection with any of the men that I went on dates with,

Nisam osjetila neku posebnu kemiju ni s jednim od muškaraca,

and I didn't feel like they felt a particular connection with me either.

a i mislim da je bilo uzajamno.

AS: Now, the most beautiful thing to me --

AS: Ono što je meni bilo najljepše u cijeloj priči

(Laughter) -- as a photographer is the quality of vulnerability.

(Smijeh) -- meni kao fotografu bila je kvaliteta ranjivosti.

The physical exterior reveals a crack in which you can get a glimpse

Fizička vanjština otkriva pukotinu kroz koju možete ugledati tračak

at a more fragile interior.

još ranjivije unutrašnjosti.

At this date-a-thon event, I saw so many examples of that,

Na ovom skupu brzinskih spojeva vidio sam puno takvih primjera,

but as I watched Stacey's dates and talked to her about them,

ali gledajući Staceyine spojeve i pričajući s njom o njima,

I realized how different photographic love is from real love.

shvatio sam koliko je fotografska ljubav drugačija od one prave.

What is real love? How does it work?

Što je prava ljubav i kako funkcionira?

In order to work on this question and to figure out how someone goes

Kako bismo odgovorili na ovo pitanje i shvatili kako netko

from meeting on a date to having a life together,

kreće od spoja do zajedničkog života.

Stacey and I went to Sun City Summerlin,

Stacey i ja posjetili smo Sun City Summerlin,

which is the largest retirement community in Las Vegas.

najvećeu zajednicu umirovljenika u Las Vegasu.

Our contact there was George, who runs the community's photography club.

Veza nam je bio George, voditelj foto-sekcije za umirovljenike.

He arranged for us to meet other couples in their makeshift photo studio.

Dogovorio nam je susret s drugim parovima u improviziranom foto-studiju.

SB: After 45 years of marriage, Anastasia's husband died two years ago,

SB: Anastasijin je suprug umro prije dvije godine nakon 45 godina braka,

so we asked if she had an old wedding picture.

pa smo je zamolili za staru sliku s vjenčanja.

She met her husband when she was a 15-year-old waitress

Muža je upoznala kao petnaestogodišnja konobarica

at a small barbecue place in Michigan.

u maloj roštiljarnici u Michiganu.

He was 30.

Njemu je bilo 30 godina,

She'd lied about her age.

a ona je o svojim godinama lagala.

He was the first person she'd dated.

On joj je bio prvi dečko.

Dean had been named photographer of the year in Las Vegas two years in a row,

Dean je dvije godine zaredom imenovan fotografom godine,

and this caught Alec's attention,

što je zainteresiralo Aleca,

as did the fact that he met his wife, Judy,

kao i činjenica da je svoju suprugu Judy

at the same age when Alec met Rachel.

upoznao kada je bio istih godina kao i Alec kad je upoznao Rachel.

Dean admitted that he likes to look at beautiful women,

Dean je priznao da voli gledati lijepe žene,

but he's never questioned his decision to marry Judy.

ali nikad nije požalio zbog svoje odluke da oženi Judy.

AS: George met Josephine at a parish dance.

AS: George je upoznao Josephine na župnom plesu.

He was 18, she was 15.

Njemu je bilo 18., a njoj 15.

Like a lot of the couples we met, they weren't especially philosophical

Kao i većina parova koje smo upoznali, ni oni nisu previše filozofirali

about their early choices.

oko svojih ranih odluka.

George said something that really stuck with me.

George je rekao nešto što me zaista zateklo.

He said, "When you get that feeling, you just go with it."

Rekao je: "Kad dobiješ taj osjećaj, samo ga slijedi."

Bob and Trudy met on a blind date when she was still in high school.

Bob i Trudy upoznali su se na spoju naslijepo dok je ona bila u srednjoj.

They said they weren't particularly attracted to each other

Priznali su da jedno drugome nisu bili pretjerano privlačni

when the first met.

kad su se tek upoznali,

Nevertheless, they were married soon after.

no bez obzira na to, ubrzo su se vjenčail.

SB: The story that stayed with me the most

SB: Mene se najviše dojmila

was that of George, the photography club president, and his wife, Mary.

Georgeva priča, priča predsjednika foto-sekcije i njegove supruge Mary.

This was George and Mary's second marriage.

Oboma je to bio drugi brak.

They met at a country-western club in Louisville, Kentucky called the Sahara.

Upoznali su se u zapadnjačkom country klubu "Sahari" u Louisvilleu u Kentuckyju.

He was there alone drinking and she was with friends.

On je pio sam, a ona je bila s prijateljicama.

When they started dating, he owed the IRS 9,000 dollars in taxes,

Kad su počeli izlaziti, on je Poreznoj upravi dugovao 9.000 dolara,

and she offered to help him get out of debt,

a ona mu je ponudila pomoći da se izvuče iz dugova,

so for the next year, he turned his paychecks over to Mary,

stoga je naredne godine svoje plaće davao Mary

and she got him out of debt.

koja ga je izvukla iz dugova.

George was actually an alcoholic when they married, and Mary knew it.

George je bio alkoholičar kad su se vjenčali i Mary je to znala.

At some point in their marriage, he says he consumed

Kaže da je u određenoj fazi njihova braka

54 beers in one day.

popio 54 piva u jednom danu.

Another time, when he was drunk, he threatened to kill Mary

Drugom prilikom, pijan je prijetio Mary da će ubiti i nju

and her two kids,

i njezinih dvoje djece,

but they escaped and a SWAT team was called to the house.

ali pobjegli su i specijalci su im pozvani u kuću.

Amazingly, Mary took him back,

Čudom, Mary ga je primila nazad

and eventually things got better.

i s vremenom su se stvari popravile.

George has been involved in Alcoholics Anonymous

George se uključio u anonimne alkoholičare

and hasn't had a drink in 36 years.

i ne pije već 36 godina.

(Music)

(Glazba)

At the end of the day, after we left Sun City,

Na kraju dana, kad smo napustili Sun City,

I told Alec that I didn't actually think

rekla sam Alecu da mi

that the stories of how these couples met were all that interesting.

priče o upoznavanju nisu pretjerano zanimljive.

What was more interesting

Zanimljvije su mi priče

was how they managed to stay together.

o tome kako su ti parovi ostali zajedno.

AS: They all had this beautiful quality of endurance,

AS: Svi su imali tu predivnu sposobnost izdržljivosti,

but that was true of the singles, too.

baš kao i samci.

The world is hard, and the singles were out there

Svijet je okrutan, a samci se ondje

trying to connect with other people,

pokušavaju povezati s drugim ljudima,

and the couples were holding onto each other

a parovi imaju jedni druge

after all these decades.

nakon tolikih desetljeća.

My favorite pictures on this trip were of Joe and Roseanne.

Moja najdraža fotografija s ovog puta jest ona Joeva i Roseanneina.

Now, by the time we met Joe and Roseanne,

Dok smo upoznali Joe i Roseanne,

we'd gotten in the habit of asking couples if they had an old wedding photograph.

već smo se naviknuli tražiti parove staru sliku s vjenčanja.

In their case, they simultaneously pulled out of their wallets

U njihovu slučaju oni su istovremeno iz novčanika izvukli

the exact same photograph.

istu fotografiju.

What's more beautiful, I thought to myself,

Što je ljepše, pomislih,

this image of a young couple who has just fallen in love

ova slika mladog para koji se tek zaljubio

or the idea of these two people holding onto this image for decades?

ili pomisao da tih dvoje ljudi čuva tu sliku već desetljećima?

Thank you.

Hvala vam.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)