New insights on poverty | Hans Rosling

Prevodilac: Elizabeta Petrovic Lektor: Vanja Cakić

I told you three things last year.

Prošle godine sam vam rekao tri stvari.

I told you that the statistics of the world

Rekao sam vam da statistički podaci o svetu

have not been made properly available.

nisu na raspolaganju na pravi način.

Zbog toga i dalje imamo zastarelo mišljenje

Because of that, we still have the old mindset

of developing in industrialized countries, which is wrong.

o visoko razvijenim zemljama i zemljama u razvoju,

koje je pogrešno.

And that animated graphics can make a difference.

I da animirani grafički prikazi mogu uticati na promenu.

Things are changing

Stvari se menjaju.

Danas, na web stranici Odeljenja za Statistiku Ujedinjenih Nacija,

and today, on the United Nations Statistic Division Home Page,

it says, by first of May, full access to the databases.

piše, od prvog maja, moguć puni pristup bazama podataka.

(Aplauz)

(Applause)

And if I could share the image with you on the screen.

I, ako mogu da vam pokažem sliku na ekranu.

So three things have happened.

Dakle, tri stvari su se dogodile.

U.N. opened their statistic databases,

UN su otvorile pristup svojim podacima,

and we have a new version of the software

a mi imamo novu verziju softvera

up working as a beta on the net,

koja radi na mreži,

so you don't have to download it any longer.

pa ne morate više da je skidate.

I da ponovim šta ste videli prošle godine.

And let me repeat what you saw last year.

The bubbles are the countries.

Mehurići su zemlje.

Here you have the fertility rate -- the number of children per woman --

Ovo ovde je plodnost - broj dece po svakoj ženi -

and there you have the length of life in years.

a ovde je dužina života u godinama.

Ovde je 1950, ovo su visoko razvijene zemlje,

This is 1950 -- those were the industrialized countries,

those were developing countries.

a ovde su zemlje u razvoju.

At that time there was a "we" and "them."

Nekad smo se delili na "mi" i "oni".

There was a huge difference in the world.

Velike razlike su vladale u svetu.

But then it changed, and it went on quite well.

Ali onda se to promenilo.

I prilično dobro je teklo i evo što se događa.

And this is what happens.

You can see how China is the red, big bubble.

Veliki crveni mehur je Kina,

The blue there is India.

a plavi ovde je Indija.

And they go over all this -- I'm going to try to be

Idu preko svega ovoga.

Ove godine ću da pokušam da budem malo ozbiljniji

a little more serious this year in showing you

i pokazaću vam kako su se stvari zaista promenile.

how things really changed.

Afrika se ističe kao problem ovde dole, zar ne?

And it's Africa that stands out as the problem down here, doesn't it?

Large families still, and the HIV epidemic

Porodice su još velike,

a HIV epidemija je unazadila zemlje.

brought down the countries like this.

To je manje-više ono što smo videli prošle godine,

This is more or less what we saw last year,

and this is how it will go on into the future.

a evo kako će se to razvijati ubuduće.

And I will talk on, is this possible?

I ja ću dalje govoriti, je li to moguće?

Because you see now, I presented statistics that don't exist.

Jer, vidite, prikazujem vam statistike koje još ne postoje.

Because this is where we are.

Jer danas smo ovde.

Will it be possible that this will happen?

Je li moguće da se ovo dogodi?

Ovde prikazujem ceo svoj životni vek, znate?

I cover my lifetime here, you know?

Očekujem da ću da živim 100 godina.

I expect to live 100 years.

And this is where we are today.

A ovde smo danas.

Now could we look here instead at the economic situation in the world?

Možemo li ovde da pogledamo

ekonomsku situaciju u svetu?

And I would like to show that against child survival.

I hteo bih da je uporedim s preživljavanjem dece.

Zamenićemo ose:

We'll swap the axis.

ovde je smrtnost dece, to jest, preživljavanje.

Here you have child mortality -- that is, survival --

four kids dying there, 200 dying there.

četvoro dece umire ovde, 200 onde.

A ovo je BDP po stanovniku, na ovoj osi.

And this is GDP per capita on this axis.

A ovo je 2007.

And this was 2007.

Ako vratim vreme, dodao sam malo istorijskih statistika -

And if I go back in time, I've added some historical statistics --

here we go, here we go, here we go -- not so much statistics 100 years ago.

idemo, idemo, idemo -

nije bilo puno statističkih podataka pre 100 godina.

Some countries still had statistics.

Neke zemlje su još i tada imale statistike.

We are looking down in the archive,

Idemo do početka arhive i dođemo do 1820. godine.

and when we are down into 1820,

there is only Austria and Sweden that can produce numbers.

Evo, jedino Austrija i Švedska imaju tako stare statistike.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

Ali one su bile ovde dole.

But they were down here. They had 1,000 dollars per person per year.

Imale su 1000 dolara po osobi godišnje

A umirala je petina njihove dece pre svog prvog rođendana.

And they lost one-fifth of their kids before their first birthday.

Evo što se dešava u svetu, ako pustimo ceo svet,

So this is what happens in the world, if we play the entire world.

How they got slowly richer and richer,

kako su polagano postajali bogatiji,

and they add statistics.

dodavali su i statističke podatke.

Isn't it beautiful when they get statistics?

Nije li prelepo kad imamo podatke?

You see the importance of that?

Vidite li koliko je to važno?

A ovde, deca ne žive duže.

And here, children don't live longer.

The last century, 1870, was bad for the kids in Europe,

Prošli vek, 1870, bilo je loše za decu u Evropi,

because most of this statistics is Europe.

jer većina ovih podataka je za Evropu.

It was only by the turn of the century

Tek na kraju veka

that more than 90 percent of the children survived their first year.

je više od 90% dece doživelo prvi rođendan.

This is India coming up, with the first data from India.

Evo Indije, s prvim njihovim podacima.

And this is the United States moving away here, earning more money.

A ovde je SAD kako se pomera ovde, zarađuje sve više novca.

Uskoro ćemo da vidimo Kinu kako se pojavljuje na samoj ivici.

And we will soon see China coming up in the very far end corner here.

Kreće se prema gore jer joj Mao Tse Tung daje zdravlje,

And it moves up with Mao Tse-Tung getting health,

not getting so rich.

ne previše bogatstva.

There he died, then Deng Xiaoping brings money.

Ovde je umro, a Deng Sjaoping donosi novac,

pa se Kina kreće ovamo.

It moves this way over here.

A mehurići se i dalje penju,

And the bubbles keep moving up there,

and this is what the world looks like today.

i ovako svet izgleda danas.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

Let us have a look at the United States.

Pogledajmo sad SAD.

We have a function here -- I can tell the world, "Stay where you are."

Imam funkciju ovde, kojom mogu reći svetu da ostane kakav je.

Onda uzmem SAD - jer želimo da vidimo pozadinu -

And I take the United States -- we still want to see the background --

I put them up like this, and now we go backwards.

stavim ih ovako, i idemo unazad.

And we can see that the United States

I vidimo da se SAD pomeraju prema desno od većine.

goes to the right of the mainstream.

Sve vreme imaju više novca od ostalih.

They are on the money side all the time.

And down in 1915, the United States was a neighbor of India --

Godine 1915. SAD su imale novca kao Indija.

Indija danas.

present, contemporary India.

A to znači da su SAD bile bogatije,

And that means United States was richer,

but lost more kids than India is doing today, proportionally.

ali im je umiralo više dece nego Indiji danas, proporcionalno.

And look here -- compare to the Philippines of today.

A pogledajte ovde, uporedite ih s Filipinima danas.

The Philippines of today has almost the same economy

Filipini danas imaju skoro istu ekonomsku snagu

kao SAD za vreme Prvog svetskog rata.

as the United States during the First World War.

But we have to bring United States forward quite a while

Ali SAD moramo pomeriti prilično u budućnost

to find the same health of the United States

da postignu isti nivo kvaliteta zdravstvenog sistema

as we have in the Philippines.

kao što ga imaju Filipini danas.

Tek oko 1957. je zdravstvo u SAD-u

About 1957 here, the health of the United States

is the same as the Philippines.

na istom nivou kao na Filipinima danas.

And this is the drama of this world which many call globalized,

I to je ona drama sveta koju mnogi zovu globalizacija:

is that Asia, Arabic countries, Latin America,

Azija, arapske zemlje, Latinska Amerika

are much more ahead in being healthy, educated,

su daleko naprednije u zdravstvenom sistemu, obrazovanju

having human resources than they are economically.

i ljudskim resursima nego što su ekonomski.

Postoji raskorak u onome što se danas dešava u novim ekonomijama.

There's a discrepancy in what's happening today

in the emerging economies.

There now, social benefits, social progress,

U njima društvene beneficije, društveni napredak

are going ahead of economical progress.

su ispred ekonomskog napretka.

A 1957. SAD su imale istu ekonomsku moć kao Čile danas.

And 1957 -- the United States had the same economy as Chile has today.

I koliko daleko moramo da pomerimo SAD

And how long do we have to bring United States

to get the same health as Chile has today?

da bismo imali isti nivo zdravlja kao Čile danas?

I think we have to go, there -- we have 2001, or 2002 --

Mislim da moramo ići do... evo 2001. ili 2002.

the United States has the same health as Chile.

SAD su zdrave kao Čile danas.

Čile brzo hvata korak.

Chile's catching up!

Za nekoliko godina možda će Čile

Within some years Chile may have better child survival

imati manju smrtnost novorođenčadi nego SAD.

than the United States.

To je stvarno promena,

This is really a change, that you have this lag

da postoji 30 do 40 godina razlike u zdravlju.

of more or less 30, 40 years' difference on the health.

And behind the health is the educational level.

A nakon zdravlja dolazi nivo obrazovanosti.

And there's a lot of infrastructure things,

A ima i puno infrastrukturnih stvari i ljudskih resursa.

and general human resources are there.

Now we can take away this --

Sad, to možemo pomeriti.

and I would like to show you the rate of speed,

Hteo bih da vam pokažem brzinu promene,

the rate of change, how fast they have gone.

kako se brzo sve događa.

And we go back to 1920, and I want to look at Japan.

Idemo nazad u 1920. i želim da pogledam Japan.

I Švedsku i SAD.

And I want to look at Sweden and the United States.

And I'm going to stage a race here

Organizovaću trku između žućkastog Forda

between this sort of yellowish Ford here

and the red Toyota down there,

i crvene Tojote

and the brownish Volvo.

i smeđkastog Volva.

(Smeh)

(Laughter)

I evo idemo, krećemo.

And here we go. Here we go.

Tojota ima loš start ovde dole, vidite

The Toyota has a very bad start down here, you can see,

and the United States Ford is going off-road there.

a Ford SAD-a ide ovde po terenu van puta.

A Volvu ide sasvim fino.

And the Volvo is doing quite fine.

This is the war. The Toyota got off track, and now

Ovde je rat, Tojota je malo sletela s puta,

the Toyota is coming on the healthier side of Sweden --

ali se sad vraća i postaje zdravija od Švedske -

vidite li to?

can you see that?

And they are taking over Sweden,

Pretiču Švedsku

and they are now healthier than Sweden.

i sad su zdraviji od Švedske.

That's the part where I sold the Volvo and bought the Toyota.

To je trenutak u kome sam prodao svoj Volvo i kupio Tojotu.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

Sad jasno vidimo da je brzina promene u Japanu bila enormna.

And now we can see that the rate of change was enormous in Japan.

They really caught up.

Stvarno su nas dostigli.

To se menja postupno.

And this changes gradually.

Moramo gledati kroz generacije da bismo to shvatili.

We have to look over generations to understand it.

And let me show you my own sort of family history --

Dozvolite da vam pokažem istoriju moje porodice –

we made these graphs here.

napravili smo grafik.

And this is the same thing, money down there, and health, you know?

To je ista stvar, novac dole, a ovde zdravlje.

To je moja porodica.

And this is my family.

Ovo je Švedska, 1830, kad je moja pra-pra-baka rođena.

This is Sweden, 1830, when my great-great-grandma was born.

Sweden was like Sierra Leone today.

Švedska je bila kao Sijera Leone danas.

And this is when great-grandma was born, 1863.

Ovde je pra-baka rođena, 1863.

And Sweden was like Mozambique.

A Švedska je bila kao Mozambik.

And this is when my grandma was born, 1891.

A ovde je rođena moja baka, 1891.

She took care of me as a child,

Brinula se za mene kad sam bio mali,

so I'm not talking about statistic now --

dakle više ne govorim o statistici

now it's oral history in my family.

već o istoriji u mojoj porodici.

Tada verujem statistici,

That's when I believe statistics,

when it's grandma-verified statistics.

kad je potvrdi moja baka.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

Mislim da je to najbolji način provere istorijske statistike.

I think it's the best way of verifying historical statistics.

Sweden was like Ghana.

Švedska je bila poput Gane.

It's interesting to see the enormous diversity

Zanimljivo je gledati ogromnu raznolikost

within sub-Saharan Africa.

u podsaharskoj Africi.

Prošle godine sam vam rekao, i reći ću vam opet,

I told you last year, I'll tell you again,

moja je majka rođena u Egiptu, a… ko sam ja?

my mother was born in Egypt, and I -- who am I?

Ja sam Meksikanac u našoj porodici.

I'm the Mexican in the family.

A moja ćerka je rođena u Čileu,

And my daughter, she was born in Chile,

and the grand-daughter was born in Singapore,

a unuka u Singapuru,

now the healthiest country on this Earth.

danas najzdravijoj zemlji na svetu.

It bypassed Sweden about two to three years ago,

Pretekla je Švedsku pre dve-tri godine,

with better child survival.

s manjom stopom smrtnosti dece.

But they're very small, you know?

Ali oni su jako maleni, znate.

They're so close to the hospital we can never

Svi su tako blizu bolnici da ih nikad u tome ne možemo preteći.

beat them out in these forests.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

Ali svaka čast Singapuru.

But homage to Singapore.

Singapore is the best one.

Singapur je danas najbolji.

Now this looks also like a very good story.

Ovo izgleda kao dobra priča.

But it's not really that easy, that it's all a good story.

Ali u stvarnosti nije to tako lako, da sve bude dobra priča.

Because I have to show you one of the other facilities.

Moram da vam pokažem još jednu mogućnost alata.

We can also make the color here represent the variable --

Možemo takođe da napravimo da boja predstavlja varijablu.

and what am I choosing here?

Šta ću odabrati ovde?

Carbon-dioxide emission, metric ton per capita.

Emisiju ugljen-dioksida, metričke tone po stanovniku.

Ovo je 1962. kad su SAD emitovale 16 tona po osobi.

This is 1962, and United States was emitting 16 tons per person.

And China was emitting 0.6,

Kina je emitovala 0.6,

and India was emitting 0.32 tons per capita.

a Indija 0.32 tone po stanovniku.

And what happens when we moved on?

A šta se dešava kad krenemo napred?

Well, you see the nice story of getting richer

Evo, vidite lepu priču kako se postaje bogatiji i zdraviji.

and getting healthier --

everyone did it at the cost of emission of carbon dioxide.

Svi su to postigli na račun emisije ugljen-dioksida.

There is no one who has done it so far.

Niko to još nije uspeo da postigne drugačije.

And we don't have all the updated data

Nemamo sveže podatke

any longer, because this is really hot data today.

jer su to danas "vrući" podaci.

And there we are, 2001.

Evo nas u 2001.

And in the discussion I attended with global leaders, you know,

U razgovorima sa svetskim vođama, znate,

many say now the problem is that the emerging economies,

mnogi kažu da je problem u novim ekonomijama

they are getting out too much carbon dioxide.

koje emituju previše ugljen-dioksida.

The Minister of the Environment of India said,

Ministar Okoline Indije je rekao

"Well, you were the one who caused the problem."

"Vi ste ti koji su prouzrokovali problem."

The OECD countries -- the high-income countries --

Zemlje OECD-a, bogate zemlje,

they were the ones who caused the climate change.

one su izazvale klimatske promene.

"But we forgive you, because you didn't know it.

"Ali, mi vam to opraštamo, jer niste znali.

But from now on, we count per capita.

Ali od sada, računamo po stanovniku.

From now on we count per capita.

Od sada, računamo po stanovniku.

And everyone is responsible for the per capita emission."

I svako je odgovoran za emisiju po stanovniku."

This really shows you, we have not seen good economic

Ovo vam stvarno pokazuje da nismo nigde videli ekonomski

and health progress anywhere in the world

i zdravstveni napredak bilo gde u svetu

without destroying the climate.

bez uništavanja klime.

A to zaista mora da se promeni.

And this is really what has to be changed.

Kritikovali su me da pokazujem previše pozitivnu sliku sveta,

I've been criticized for showing you a too positive image of the world,

ali ja ne mislim da je to tako.

but I don't think it's like this.

The world is quite a messy place.

Svet je prilično neuredno mesto.

This we can call Dollar Street.

Ovo možemo zvati Dolarskom ulicom.

Everyone lives on this street here.

Svi žive u ovoj ulici ovde.

Kućni broj na kojem žive odgovara

What they earn here -- what number they live on --

iznosu dolara koji zarade na dan.

is how much they earn per day.

This family earns about one dollar per day.

Ova porodica zarađuje oko jednog dolara na dan.

Vozimo se ulicom i dođemo do porodice

We drive up the street here,

we find a family here which earns about two to three dollars a day.

koja zarađuje dva do tri dolara na dan.

And we drive away here -- we find the first garden in the street,

Vozimo se dalje i pojavljuje se prva bašta u ulici.

and they earn 10 to 50 dollars a day.

Oni zarađuju 10 do 50 dolara na dan.

And how do they live?

A kako oni žive?

If we look at the bed here, we can see

Ako pogledamo krevet,

vidimo da spavaju na prostirci na podu.

that they sleep on a rug on the floor.

Evo šta je granica siromaštva -

This is what poverty line is --

80% porodičnih prihoda služi za pokrivanje energetskih potreba,

80 percent of the family income is just to cover the energy needs,

the food for the day.

hrane za taj dan.

Ovde je dva do pet dolara, imate krevet.

This is two to five dollars. You have a bed.

A ovde je puno lepša spavaća soba.

And here it's a much nicer bedroom, you can see.

Držao sam ovo predavanje za Ikeu

I lectured on this for Ikea, and they wanted to see

i oni su odmah hteli da vide ovde sofu.

the sofa immediately here.

(Smeh)

(Laughter)

And this is the sofa, how it will emerge from there.

A evo ovde sofe, kako se pojavi odavde.

And the interesting thing, when you go around here in the photo panorama,

A zanimljivo je, kad pogledate okolo u panoramskoj slici,

you see the family still sitting on the floor there.

vidite da porodica i dalje sedi na podu,

Although there is a sofa,

iako je ovde sofa.

if you watch in the kitchen, you can see that

Ako pogledate u kuhinju,

the great difference for women does not come between one to 10 dollars.

videćete da nema velike razlike za žene između jednog i deset dolara.

To se dešava tek ovde,

It comes beyond here, when you really can get

kad postoje dobri radni uslovi u porodici.

good working conditions in the family.

And if you really want to see the difference,

A ako zaista želite da vidite razliku,

you look at the toilet over here.

pogledajte toalet.

This can change. This can change.

Ovo se može poboljšati, i ovo.

These are all pictures and images from Africa,

Ovo sve fotografije iz Afrike

and it can become much better.

i sve se to može puno poboljšati.

We can get out of poverty.

Možemo se rešiti siromaštva.

My own research has not been in IT or anything like this.

Moje istraživanje nije bilo u informacionoj tehnologiji ili slično.

I spent 20 years in interviews with African farmers

Proveo sam 20 godina razgovarajući s afričkim seljacima

who were on the verge of famine.

koji su bili na ivici izgladnelosti.

And this is the result of the farmers-needs research.

A ovo su rezultati istraživanja o potrebama seljaka.

The nice thing here is that you can't see

Dobro je što ne možete da vidite ko su istraživači na ovoj slici.

who are the researchers in this picture.

That's when research functions in poor societies --

Istraživanje u siromašnom društvu daje prave rezultate

you must really live with the people.

samo ako stvarno živite s ljudima.

When you're in poverty, everything is about survival.

Ako živite u siromaštvu, jedino je bitno preživeti.

It's about having food.

Važno je imati dovoljno hrane.

And these two young farmers, they are girls now --

A ovi mladi farmeri, to su devojke -

because the parents are dead from HIV and AIDS --

jer su njihovi roditelji umrli od HIVa i SIDE -

one razgovaraju s obrazovanim poljoprivrednikom.

they discuss with a trained agronomist.

This is one of the best agronomists in Malawi, Junatambe Kumbira,

Ovo je jedan od najboljih poljoprovrednika u Malaviju, Junatambe Kumbira.

I on razgovara koju vrstu kasave bi one trebalo da uzgajaju -

and he's discussing what sort of cassava they will plant --

the best converter of sunshine to food that man has found.

to je najbolji pretvarač sunčeve energije u hranu koji je čovek otkrio.

And they are very, very eagerly interested to get advice,

A one su vrlo, vrlo željne saveta

and that's to survive in poverty.

kako bi preživele u siromaštvu.

That's one context.

To je jedan kontekst.

Getting out of poverty.

Izaći iz siromaštva.

The women told us one thing. "Get us technology.

Te žene su nam rekle: "Dajte nam tehnologiju.

We hate this mortar, to stand hours and hours.

Mrzimo ove motike, kopanje satima.

Get us a mill so that we can mill our flour,

Dajte nam mlin, da možemo same obrađujemo naše žito,

then we will be able to pay for the rest ourselves."

onda ćemo moći da same platitimo ostalo."

Tehnologija vas može izvući iz siromaštva,

Technology will bring you out of poverty,

but there's a need for a market to get away from poverty.

ali potrebno je i tržište kako bi se izašlo iz siromaštva.

And this woman is very happy now, bringing her products to the market.

Ova je žena presrećna dok vozi svoje proizvode na pijacu.

I ona je vrlo zahvalna za javna ulaganja u obrazovanje,

But she's very thankful for the public investment in schooling

so she can count, and won't be cheated when she reaches the market.

jer zna da računa i neće je prevariti na pijaci.

She wants her kid to be healthy, so she can go to the market

Želi da njeno dete bude zdravo kako bi mogla da ide na pijacu,

and doesn't have to stay home.

a ne da mora da ostane kod kuće.

And she wants the infrastructure -- it is nice with a paved road.

A treba joj i infrastruktura – puno je lakše sa asfaltiranim putem.

It's also good with credit.

I krediti pomažu.

Micro-credits gave her the bicycle, you know.

Mikro krediti su joj omogućili bicikl, znate.

And information will tell her when to go to market with which product.

A pristup informacijama će joj pomoći

da zna kad i s kojom robom da ide na pijacu.

You can do this.

To se može postići.

I find my experience from 20 years of Africa is that

Moje dvadesetogodišnje iskustvo u Africi govori

the seemingly impossible is possible.

da su naizgled nemoguće stvari ipak moguće.

Africa has not done bad.

Africi ne ide loše.

U 50 godina oni su s nivoa pre-srednjovekovne Evrope

In 50 years they've gone from a pre-Medieval situation

to a very decent 100-year-ago Europe,

došli na nivo Evrope od pre 100 godina,

with a functioning nation and state.

s državama koje funkcionišu.

Rekao bih da je podsaharska Afrika imala najveći napredak u celom svetu

I would say that sub-Saharan Africa has done best in the world

during the last 50 years.

u posljednjih 50 godina.

Because we don't consider where they came from.

Jer mi zaboravljamo odakle su oni krenuli.

It's this stupid concept of developing countries

Glupa je ideja koja upoređuje napredak

that puts us, Argentina and Mozambique together 50 years ago,

nas, Argentine i Mozambika u proteklih 50 godina

and says that Mozambique did worse.

i kaže da se Mozambiku ide lošije.

Moramo da naučimo malo više o svetu.

We have to know a little more about the world.

Imam suseda koji poznaje 200 vrsta vina.

I have a neighbor who knows 200 types of wine.

On zna sve.

He knows everything.

He knows the name of the grape, the temperature and everything.

Zna naziv grožđa, temperaturu i sve.

Ja poznajem sam dve vrste vina - crno i belo.

I only know two types of wine -- red and white.

(Smeh)

(Laughter)

Ali moj sused poznaje samo dve vrste zemalja -

But my neighbor only knows two types of countries --

industrialized and developing.

industrijalizovane i one u razvoju.

And I know 200, I know about the small data.

A ja ih poznajem 200.

Ja poznajem, imam podatke...

But you can do that.

Ali to se može.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

But I have to get serious. And how do you get serious?

Ali moram da se uozbiljim.

A kako biti ozbiljan?

You make a PowerPoint, you know?

Napravite PowerPoint prezentaciju.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

Svaka čast Office paketu, zar ne?

Homage to the Office package, no?

(Smeh)

Šta je ovo, šta je to, šta vam govorim?

What is this, what is this, what am I telling?

I'm telling you that there are many dimensions of development.

Govorim vam da postoji mnogo dimenzija razvoja.

Everyone wants your pet thing.

Svi žele vaše projekte ljubimce.

If you are in the corporate sector, you love micro-credit.

Ako ste u velikim korporacijama, obožavate mikro kredite.

If you are fighting in a non-governmental organization,

Ako se borite kao nevladina organizacija,

you love equity between gender.

volite ravnopravnost polova.

Or if you are a teacher, you'll love UNESCO, and so on.

Ili ako ste učitelj, volite UNESCO, i tako dalje.

On the global level, we have to have more than our own thing.

Na globalnom nivou nam treba više od naših stvari.

We need everything.

Treba nam sve.

All these things are important for development,

Sve ove stvari su bitne za razvoj,

especially when you just get out of poverty

posebno ako ste upravo izašli iz siromaštva

and you should go towards welfare.

i treba da stvorite blagostanje.

Now, what we need to think about

Ono o čemu treba da mislimo

is, what is a goal for development,

je koji su ciljevi razvoja

i koja su sredstva razvoja.

and what are the means for development?

Let me first grade what are the most important means.

Prvo ću oceniti koja su najvažnija sredstva.

Ekonomski rast je meni, kao profesoru javnog zdravlja,

Economic growth to me, as a public-health professor,

is the most important thing for development

najvažnija stvar za razvoj,

because it explains 80 percent of survival.

jer on objašnjava 80% preživljavanja.

Upravljanje.

Governance. To have a government which functions --

Imati vladu koja funkcioniše -

that's what brought California out of the misery of 1850.

to je ono što je izvuklo Kaliforniju iz bede 1850.

It was the government that made law function finally.

Vlada je ta koja je konačno učinila da zakon profunkcioniše.

Education, human resources are important.

Obrazovanje, ljudski resursi su važni.

Health is also important, but not that much as a mean.

Zdravlje je isto važno, ali ne toliko kao sredstvo.

Environment is important.

Okolina je važna.

Ljudska prava su važna, ali dobijaju samo jedan plusić.

Human rights is also important, but it just gets one cross.

Now what about goals? Where are we going toward?

A šta je s ciljevima?

Čemu težimo?

We are not interested in money.

Ne zanima nas novac.

Money is not a goal.

Novac nije cilj.

It's the best mean, but I give it zero as a goal.

To je najbolje sredstvo, ali mu dajem nulu kao cilju.

Vlada, pa zabavno je glasati, ali to nije cilj.

Governance, well it's fun to vote in a little thing,

but it's not a goal.

I ići u školu, ni to nije cilj, to je sredstvo.

And going to school, that's not a goal, it's a mean.

Zdravlju dajem dva boda.

Health I give two points. I mean it's nice to be healthy

Mislim, lepo je biti zdrav, posebno o mojim godinama -

-- at my age especially -- you can stand here, you're healthy.

mogu ovde da stojim, jer sam zdrav.

And that's good, it gets two plusses.

To je dobro, dobija dva plusa.

Environment is very, very crucial.

Okolina je vrlo, vrlo bitna.

There's nothing for the grandkid if you don't save up.

Ništa neće ostati unucima ako je ne štitimo.

But where are the important goals?

Ali gde su važni ciljevi?

Of course, it's human rights.

Naravno, to su ljudska prava.

Human rights is the goal,

Ljudska prava su cilj,

but it's not that strong of a mean for achieving development.

ali ne toliko važno sredstvo za ostvarenje razvoja.

I kultura.

And culture. Culture is the most important thing, I would say,

Kultura je najvažnija, rekao bih,

because that's what brings joy to life.

jer to je ono što donosi radost u životu.

That's the value of living.

To je vrednost života.

So the seemingly impossible is possible.

Dakle, naizgled nemoguće je moguće.

Čak i afričke zemlje to mogu da postignu.

Even African countries can achieve this.

And I've shown you the shot where the seemingly impossible is possible.

I pokazao sam vam sliku gde je naizgled nemoguće moguće.

And remember, please remember my main message,

I zapamtite, molim vas zapamtite moju glavnu poruku,

which is this: the seemingly impossible is possible.

a to je ova: naizgled nemoguće je moguće.

We can have a good world.

Možemo imati dobar svet.

I showed you the shots, I proved it in the PowerPoint,

Pokazao sam vam slike, dokazao u prezentaciji

and I think I will convince you also by culture.

i mislim da ću vas uveriti kulturom.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

(Aplauz)

(Applause)

Bring me my sword!

Donesite mi moj mač!

(Aplauz)

Sword swallowing is from ancient India.

Gutanje mača...

(Smeh)

je iz drevne Indije.

It's a cultural expression that for thousands of years

(Smeh)

To je kulturni izraz koji je hiljadama godina

has inspired human beings to think beyond the obvious.

nadahnjivao ljude da razmišljaju izvan očiglednog.

(Smeh)

(Laughter)

And I will now prove to you that the seemingly impossible is possible

A ja ću vam sada dokazati da je naizgled nemoguće moguće

by taking this piece of steel -- solid steel --

tako što ću ovaj komad čelika - čvrstog čelika -

ovo je vojni bajonet švedske vojske, 1850,

this is the army bayonet from the Swedish Army, 1850,

in the last year we had war.

poslednje godine kad smo imali rat.

I to je čvrsti čelik – možete čuti.

And it's all solid steel -- you can hear here.

I ja ću -

And I'm going to take this blade of steel,

(Smeh)

tu čeličnu oštricu

and push it down through my body of blood and flesh,

gurnuti kroz moje telo od krvi i mesa

and prove to you that the seemingly impossible is possible.

i dokazati vam da je naizgled nemoguće moguće.

Mogu li vas zamoliti za trenutak apsolutne tišine?

Can I request a moment of absolute silence?

(Bubanj)

(Applause)

(Aplauz)