New insights on poverty | Hans Rosling

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00:25
I told you three things last year.
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去年我們講了3個問題
00:27
I told you that the statistics of the world
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我們已經談過了
00:30
have not been made properly available.
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世界的統計資料並不為人們所知
00:33
Because of that, we still have the old mindset
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所以我們仍錯誤的
00:35
of developing in industrialized countries, which is wrong.
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把世界劃分為發達國家與發展中國家
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And that animated graphics can make a difference.
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但是新的統計數據動畫技術將引領變革
00:44
Things are changing
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變革已經開始
00:46
and today, on the United Nations Statistic Division Home Page,
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今天,在聯合國統計署的官方網站上
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it says, by first of May, full access to the databases.
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通告說5月1日以後所有數據庫向公眾開放
00:55
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
00:58
And if I could share the image with you on the screen.
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我們一起看大屏幕
01:03
So three things have happened.
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(過去1年中)發生了3件事
01:04
U.N. opened their statistic databases,
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聯合國開放了他們的數據庫
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and we have a new version of the software
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我們的軟件推出了新版本
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up working as a beta on the net,
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其測試版可以在線使用
01:13
so you don't have to download it any longer.
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所以今後大家再也不用下載了
01:16
And let me repeat what you saw last year.
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首先我們回顧一下去年的內容
01:18
The bubbles are the countries.
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每個球代表一個國家
01:19
Here you have the fertility rate -- the number of children per woman --
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X軸是生育率,每個婦女的育兒數
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and there you have the length of life in years.
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Y軸是平均壽命年數
01:27
This is 1950 -- those were the industrialized countries,
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當前數據是1950年,這些是發達國家
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those were developing countries.
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這些是發展中國家
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At that time there was a "we" and "them."
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那時世界是由“我們和他們”構成的
01:33
There was a huge difference in the world.
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那時候各國差距很大
01:35
But then it changed, and it went on quite well.
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後來世界往好的方向上改變了
01:39
And this is what happens.
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這就是變化的過程
01:41
You can see how China is the red, big bubble.
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那個大的紅球代表中國
01:44
The blue there is India.
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而那個大的藍球代表印度
01:45
And they go over all this -- I'm going to try to be
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(今年我想
01:48
a little more serious this year in showing you
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稍微嚴肅一些地向你們展示
01:50
how things really changed.
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世界的發展過程)
01:53
And it's Africa that stands out as the problem down here, doesn't it?
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而這些(小的深藍色球)非洲國家正是問題所在
01:56
Large families still, and the HIV epidemic
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龐大的家庭,艾滋病流行
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brought down the countries like this.
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導致平均壽命下降
02:01
This is more or less what we saw last year,
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這基本上就是去年我們所講的內容
02:04
and this is how it will go on into the future.
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而這是對未來的預測
02:07
And I will talk on, is this possible?
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我得說這些只是可能發生的
02:09
Because you see now, I presented statistics that don't exist.
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因為現在我們看到的實際上是不存在的統計數據
02:13
Because this is where we are.
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這是目前的實際情況
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Will it be possible that this will happen?
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也許未來的發展會像這樣
02:19
I cover my lifetime here, you know?
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(這段時間)包含了我的人生
02:21
I expect to live 100 years.
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我期望活到100歲
02:23
And this is where we are today.
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這是今天的世界
02:25
Now could we look here instead at the economic situation in the world?
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我們看看世界的經濟情況
02:33
And I would like to show that against child survival.
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和對應的兒童健康狀況
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We'll swap the axis.
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我們翻轉一下Y軸
02:40
Here you have child mortality -- that is, survival --
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現在Y軸是兒童死亡率
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four kids dying there, 200 dying there.
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這裡是千分之四,而那裡是千分之兩百
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And this is GDP per capita on this axis.
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X軸是人均GDP
02:50
And this was 2007.
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當前是2007年的數據
02:53
And if I go back in time, I've added some historical statistics --
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如果我們回到過去,我們增加了一些歷史數據
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here we go, here we go, here we go -- not so much statistics 100 years ago.
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100年前沒有多少數據統計
03:03
Some countries still had statistics.
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只有少數國家有數據可查
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We are looking down in the archive,
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我們參考了歷史文獻的記載
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and when we are down into 1820,
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現在我們看到的是1820年的數據
03:11
there is only Austria and Sweden that can produce numbers.
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那時只有奧地利和瑞典人識數
03:15
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
03:18
But they were down here. They had 1,000 dollars per person per year.
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但他們在下邊,每人每年1000美元的收入
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And they lost one-fifth of their kids before their first birthday.
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五分之一的孩子活不到1歲生日
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So this is what happens in the world, if we play the entire world.
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這就是那時的世界。再看看世界的發展
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How they got slowly richer and richer,
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這些國家慢慢變得富有
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and they add statistics.
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另一些國家開始擁有統計數據
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Isn't it beautiful when they get statistics?
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(這些數據是不是很漂亮?
03:35
You see the importance of that?
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大家發現統計的重要性了吧)
03:37
And here, children don't live longer.
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但是兒童健康並沒有得到很大的改善
03:39
The last century, 1870, was bad for the kids in Europe,
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在19世紀70年代左右,歐洲的孩子們很不幸
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because most of this statistics is Europe.
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因為這些數據都來自歐洲國家
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It was only by the turn of the century
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直到19世紀與20世紀交替的時候
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that more than 90 percent of the children survived their first year.
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90%以上的孩子能慶祝1歲生日
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This is India coming up, with the first data from India.
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現在出現的是印度(藍球)
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And this is the United States moving away here, earning more money.
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而這個(黃球)是美國,人們的錢包越來越鼓
03:59
And we will soon see China coming up in the very far end corner here.
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中國(大的紅球)出現在遠處的角落
04:04
And it moves up with Mao Tse-Tung getting health,
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毛澤東時代,中國兒童健康不斷改善
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not getting so rich.
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但是收入的增加很緩慢
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There he died, then Deng Xiaoping brings money.
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毛澤東去世後,鄧小平帶來了金錢
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It moves this way over here.
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中國朝著高收入的方向發展
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And the bubbles keep moving up there,
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其他國家也都在發展
04:14
and this is what the world looks like today.
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這就是今天我們的世界
04:16
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
04:22
Let us have a look at the United States.
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現在我們看看美國
04:25
We have a function here -- I can tell the world, "Stay where you are."
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(新軟件)多了一個選項,可以讓世界(其他國家)靜止
04:29
And I take the United States -- we still want to see the background --
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我們把美國選定,把背景調亮
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I put them up like this, and now we go backwards.
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這樣可以看到其他國家
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And we can see that the United States
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接著我們回到過去
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goes to the right of the mainstream.
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美國始終在主流的右側
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They are on the money side all the time.
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他們總和錢站在同一邊
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And down in 1915, the United States was a neighbor of India --
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回到1915年,當時的美國
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present, contemporary India.
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和今天的印度差不多
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And that means United States was richer,
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當時的美國(比今天的印度)更富有
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but lost more kids than India is doing today, proportionally.
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兒童死亡率卻更高
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And look here -- compare to the Philippines of today.
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再看這裡,菲律賓(與美國)相比
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The Philippines of today has almost the same economy
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菲律賓今天的經濟水平
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as the United States during the First World War.
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與一戰時期的美國差不多
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But we have to bring United States forward quite a while
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但美國需要(從一戰後)發展多少年
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to find the same health of the United States
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才能達到菲律賓今天的兒童健康水平呢
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as we have in the Philippines.
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才能達到菲律賓今天的兒童健康水平呢
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About 1957 here, the health of the United States
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直到1957年,美國的兒童健康水平
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is the same as the Philippines.
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才和今天的菲律賓一樣
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And this is the drama of this world which many call globalized,
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這就是世界發展的劇本,很多人稱之為“全球化”
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is that Asia, Arabic countries, Latin America,
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也就是說在亞洲,阿拉伯國家和拉丁美洲
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are much more ahead in being healthy, educated,
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其健康和教育水平的發展速度
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having human resources than they are economically.
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遠超過了經濟發展的速度
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There's a discrepancy in what's happening today
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而在今天的新興國家中
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in the emerging economies.
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發展的差異
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There now, social benefits, social progress,
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更多的體現在社會的進步
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are going ahead of economical progress.
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而不是經濟的發展
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And 1957 -- the United States had the same economy as Chile has today.
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1957年美國的經濟水平與今天的智利相近
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And how long do we have to bring United States
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但美國需要發展多少年
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to get the same health as Chile has today?
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才能達到智利今天的兒童健康水平呢
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I think we have to go, there -- we have 2001, or 2002 --
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(我們要等到)2002年
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the United States has the same health as Chile.
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美國的兒童健康水平才和今天的智利一樣
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Chile's catching up!
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智利已經趕上來了!
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Within some years Chile may have better child survival
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幾年後智利的兒童健康
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than the United States.
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可能會超過美國
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This is really a change, that you have this lag
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這真是很大的變化,在不同的國家
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of more or less 30, 40 years' difference on the health.
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經濟發展和健康水平的差距有30,40年
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And behind the health is the educational level.
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而在這個背後,有教育的差距
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And there's a lot of infrastructure things,
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還有基礎設施的差距
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and general human resources are there.
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以及人力資源的差距等等
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Now we can take away this --
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我們現在把其他國家去掉
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and I would like to show you the rate of speed,
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再來看看不同的國家
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the rate of change, how fast they have gone.
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其發展速度有怎樣的差異
06:38
And we go back to 1920, and I want to look at Japan.
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回到1920年,先選定日本
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And I want to look at Sweden and the United States.
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選定瑞典和美國
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And I'm going to stage a race here
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我們將舉辦一場車賽
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between this sort of yellowish Ford here
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選手分別是黃色的福特車(美國)
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and the red Toyota down there,
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紅色的豐田車(日本)
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and the brownish Volvo.
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和棕色的沃爾沃車(瑞典)
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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And here we go. Here we go.
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比賽開始
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The Toyota has a very bad start down here, you can see,
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豐田車啟動時的表現很差
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and the United States Ford is going off-road there.
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福特車駛出了賽道
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And the Volvo is doing quite fine.
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沃爾沃表現的很不錯
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This is the war. The Toyota got off track, and now
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二戰時,豐田車跑到了賽道外
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the Toyota is coming on the healthier side of Sweden --
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但它(很快調整好)並在健康水平高於瑞典的一側運行
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can you see that?
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但它(很快調整好)並在健康水平高於瑞典的一側運行
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And they are taking over Sweden,
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現在它的健康水平
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and they are now healthier than Sweden.
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已經超過了瑞典
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That's the part where I sold the Volvo and bought the Toyota.
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就在那一年我把自己的沃爾沃換成了豐田車
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
07:23
And now we can see that the rate of change was enormous in Japan.
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我們看到日本的變化速度是驚人的
07:27
They really caught up.
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他們確實赶超了上來
07:29
And this changes gradually.
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但是這種變化是逐步發生的
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We have to look over generations to understand it.
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要經歷好幾代人的時間才能理解這種變化
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And let me show you my own sort of family history --
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下面把我的家族史展示給大家看一下
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we made these graphs here.
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(這張圖代表今天的世界)
07:41
And this is the same thing, money down there, and health, you know?
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Y軸代表健康水平,X軸是收入
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And this is my family.
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(這根紅線)代表了我的家族
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This is Sweden, 1830, when my great-great-grandma was born.
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這裡是1830年的瑞典,我的曾曾祖母出生於這一年
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Sweden was like Sierra Leone today.
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1830年的瑞典和今天的塞拉利昂一樣
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And this is when great-grandma was born, 1863.
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我的曾祖母生於1863年
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And Sweden was like Mozambique.
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1863年的瑞典和今天的莫桑比克一樣
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And this is when my grandma was born, 1891.
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我的祖母生於1891年
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She took care of me as a child,
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是她看著我長大的
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so I'm not talking about statistic now --
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現在我給大家講述的不是統計數據
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now it's oral history in my family.
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而是我本人的家族歷史
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That's when I believe statistics,
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我之所以相信這些統計數據
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when it's grandma-verified statistics.
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是因為我的祖母證實了這些數據的真實性
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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I think it's the best way of verifying historical statistics.
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我認為祖母最適合於驗證數據真實性
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Sweden was like Ghana.
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1891年的瑞典和今天的嘎納一樣
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It's interesting to see the enormous diversity
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可見在撒哈拉以南非洲地區
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within sub-Saharan Africa.
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國家間的差異非常巨大
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I told you last year, I'll tell you again,
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(我們再來回顧一下去年的內容)
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my mother was born in Egypt, and I -- who am I?
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我母親出生於(今天的)埃及
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I'm the Mexican in the family.
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我是家裡的墨西哥人
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And my daughter, she was born in Chile,
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我女兒出生於(今天的)智利
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and the grand-daughter was born in Singapore,
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我的孫女則出生在(今天的)新加坡
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now the healthiest country on this Earth.
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新加坡是目前世界上最健康的國家
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It bypassed Sweden about two to three years ago,
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其兒童健康水平在2,3年前
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with better child survival.
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超過了瑞典
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But they're very small, you know?
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但新加坡是個小地方
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They're so close to the hospital we can never
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人們住的地方和醫院很近
08:48
beat them out in these forests.
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把他們搬到瑞典的森林地區再比比看
08:49
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
08:52
But homage to Singapore.
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但還是應該向新加坡致敬
08:53
Singapore is the best one.
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他們是最健康的國家之一
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Now this looks also like a very good story.
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以上這些看起來很不錯
08:59
But it's not really that easy, that it's all a good story.
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但這些好的現像不能代表全部
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Because I have to show you one of the other facilities.
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現在我們調整一下設置
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We can also make the color here represent the variable --
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把球的顏色重新設置一下,讓顏色表示
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and what am I choosing here?
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把球的顏色重新設置一下,讓顏色表示
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Carbon-dioxide emission, metric ton per capita.
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CO2人均排放量(公噸)
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This is 1962, and United States was emitting 16 tons per person.
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1962年,美國的人均CO2排放量為16噸
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And China was emitting 0.6,
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當時的中國人均排放0.6噸
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and India was emitting 0.32 tons per capita.
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印度為0.3噸
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And what happens when we moved on?
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後來呢
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Well, you see the nice story of getting richer
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各國的經濟和健康均得到了發展
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and getting healthier --
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各國的經濟和健康均得到了發展
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everyone did it at the cost of emission of carbon dioxide.
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同時所有國家的人均CO2排放量都增加了
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There is no one who has done it so far.
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沒有哪個國家不是如此
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And we don't have all the updated data
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手頭上我們沒有更近的數據
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any longer, because this is really hot data today.
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因為CO2的數據現在很炙手可熱
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And there we are, 2001.
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最新的數據只有2001年的
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And in the discussion I attended with global leaders, you know,
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上次我參加了一個世界領導人的會議
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many say now the problem is that the emerging economies,
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很多人在埋怨新興國家
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they are getting out too much carbon dioxide.
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說他們排放了太多CO2
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The Minister of the Environment of India said,
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印度環境部的部長說
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"Well, you were the one who caused the problem."
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“問題出在你們那裡
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The OECD countries -- the high-income countries --
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經合組織成員國,高收入國家
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they were the ones who caused the climate change.
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是你們導致了氣候的改變
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"But we forgive you, because you didn't know it.
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但我們原諒你們,因為你們以前並不知情
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But from now on, we count per capita.
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從現在起我們算人均CO2排放量
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From now on we count per capita.
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從現在起我們算人均CO2排放量
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And everyone is responsible for the per capita emission."
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每個國家都應該對自己的人均CO2排放量負責”
10:23
This really shows you, we have not seen good economic
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這裡我們清楚地看到,每個國家的
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and health progress anywhere in the world
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經濟發展和健康的改善
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without destroying the climate.
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都是以破壞環境為代價的
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And this is really what has to be changed.
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這亟需改變
10:36
I've been criticized for showing you a too positive image of the world,
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我給大家展示過於樂觀的發展前景,已經招來不少批評
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but I don't think it's like this.
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儘管我不太認同
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The world is quite a messy place.
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這是一個亂糟糟的世界
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This we can call Dollar Street.
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現在大家所看到的是“美元街”
10:45
Everyone lives on this street here.
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所有人都住在這條街上
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What they earn here -- what number they live on --
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上面的數字
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is how much they earn per day.
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代表居民每天的收入
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This family earns about one dollar per day.
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這家人每天收入1美元
10:55
We drive up the street here,
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我們駕車往前走
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we find a family here which earns about two to three dollars a day.
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這家人每天收入2-3美元
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And we drive away here -- we find the first garden in the street,
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繼續往前走,看到街上第一個帶花園的房子
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and they earn 10 to 50 dollars a day.
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他們家每天收入10-50美元
11:05
And how do they live?
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房子裡面是什麼樣子的呢
11:07
If we look at the bed here, we can see
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先看看臥室
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that they sleep on a rug on the floor.
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(最窮的一家)睡在地板上
11:13
This is what poverty line is --
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這就是貧困線以下的生活
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80 percent of the family income is just to cover the energy needs,
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80%的收入用於基本生活所需的能量和食物
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the food for the day.
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80%的收入用於基本生活所需的能量和食物
11:20
This is two to five dollars. You have a bed.
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這家人每天收入2-5美元,有床可以睡了
11:23
And here it's a much nicer bedroom, you can see.
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(帶花園的這一家)臥室要好得多
11:26
I lectured on this for Ikea, and they wanted to see
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我給"宜家"僱員們作報告的時候
11:28
the sofa immediately here.
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他們要求看看沙發
11:30
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
11:32
And this is the sofa, how it will emerge from there.
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這就是(貧困家裡的)沙發
11:36
And the interesting thing, when you go around here in the photo panorama,
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這一家有像樣的沙發,但我們環顧周圍
11:39
you see the family still sitting on the floor there.
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會看到他們仍然坐在地板上
11:41
Although there is a sofa,
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儘管他們有沙發
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if you watch in the kitchen, you can see that
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我們再看看廚房
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the great difference for women does not come between one to 10 dollars.
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日收入1美元和10美元的家庭,廚房條件差不多
11:50
It comes beyond here, when you really can get
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在日收入超過10美元的家裡
11:52
good working conditions in the family.
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廚房的條件才大為改善
11:55
And if you really want to see the difference,
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真正的差別其實在廁所
11:57
you look at the toilet over here.
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大家看這裡
11:59
This can change. This can change.
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這些是可以改變的
12:01
These are all pictures and images from Africa,
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這些圖片來自非洲
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and it can become much better.
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但是(非洲)可以變得更好
12:07
We can get out of poverty.
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我們可以擺脫貧困
12:09
My own research has not been in IT or anything like this.
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我以前的研究並不是現在的IT領域
12:12
I spent 20 years in interviews with African farmers
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我在非洲工作了20年,終日奔走於飢餓的非洲農民中間
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who were on the verge of famine.
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我在非洲工作了20年,終日奔走於飢餓的非洲農民中間
12:18
And this is the result of the farmers-needs research.
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這張照片記錄了對“農民需求”的一項研究
12:20
The nice thing here is that you can't see
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有趣的是,你在照片上分辨不出
12:22
who are the researchers in this picture.
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誰是研究人員
12:24
That's when research functions in poor societies --
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在貧困地區開展研究的時候
12:27
you must really live with the people.
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你必須和當地人生活在一起
12:31
When you're in poverty, everything is about survival.
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如果你在貧困線以下,生存就是你的全部
12:35
It's about having food.
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必須獲得食物
12:37
And these two young farmers, they are girls now --
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照片裡的2個年輕的農民,她們是女孩
12:39
because the parents are dead from HIV and AIDS --
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因為父母都死於艾滋病
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they discuss with a trained agronomist.
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她們正和一個農學家交談
12:45
This is one of the best agronomists in Malawi, Junatambe Kumbira,
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他是馬拉維最好的農學家之一,(名字是)Jonathan Mkambira
12:49
and he's discussing what sort of cassava they will plant --
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他們正在討論種植哪一種cassava
12:51
the best converter of sunshine to food that man has found.
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Cassava是已知的轉化太陽能效率最高的植物
12:55
And they are very, very eagerly interested to get advice,
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農民非常渴望得到建議
12:58
and that's to survive in poverty.
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這就是貧困線以下的生活
13:01
That's one context.
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另一方面
13:02
Getting out of poverty.
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(如何)擺脫貧困
13:04
The women told us one thing. "Get us technology.
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照片中的婦女告訴我們:“我們需要技術支持
13:07
We hate this mortar, to stand hours and hours.
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我們不想用人工磨,連續幾個小時站著
13:10
Get us a mill so that we can mill our flour,
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給我們電動磨來磨麵粉吧
13:13
then we will be able to pay for the rest ourselves."
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我們可以用賣麵粉的錢去買其它東西”
13:16
Technology will bring you out of poverty,
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技術支持可以幫助人們脫貧
13:19
but there's a need for a market to get away from poverty.
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而市場對於人們脫貧也很重要
13:23
And this woman is very happy now, bringing her products to the market.
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照片裡的婦女很開心,她正把農產品運到市場上去賣
13:26
But she's very thankful for the public investment in schooling
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她很感謝政府的教育投資
13:28
so she can count, and won't be cheated when she reaches the market.
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她學會了算術,這樣在市場裡不會被騙
13:31
She wants her kid to be healthy, so she can go to the market
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她也希望孩子健康,這樣她可以安心去市場
13:34
and doesn't have to stay home.
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而不是在家裡照顧小孩
13:36
And she wants the infrastructure -- it is nice with a paved road.
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她還希望有基礎設施,有一條鋪好的道路很重要
13:39
It's also good with credit.
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另外小額貸款也很有用
13:41
Micro-credits gave her the bicycle, you know.
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小額貸款幫她買了自行車
13:44
And information will tell her when to go to market with which product.
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她還需要訊息,何時帶何種農產品去市場
13:47
You can do this.
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而這些都是我們能實現的
13:49
I find my experience from 20 years of Africa is that
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非洲20年的經歷讓我明白
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the seemingly impossible is possible.
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看上去不可能的事情,其實是可能的
13:55
Africa has not done bad.
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非洲的表現一點也不差
13:57
In 50 years they've gone from a pre-Medieval situation
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50年時間裡,非洲從中世紀之前的水平
14:00
to a very decent 100-year-ago Europe,
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發展為100年前的歐洲
14:03
with a functioning nation and state.
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並建立起國家系統
14:06
I would say that sub-Saharan Africa has done best in the world
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我想說撒哈拉以南非洲地區在過去的50年中,是發展速度最快的地區
14:09
during the last 50 years.
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我想說撒哈拉以南非洲地區在過去的50年中,是發展速度最快的地區
14:10
Because we don't consider where they came from.
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由於我們沒有考慮非洲的出身
14:12
It's this stupid concept of developing countries
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而且錯誤的使用“發展中國家”的理念
14:15
that puts us, Argentina and Mozambique together 50 years ago,
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50年前把阿根廷和莫桑比克歸類在一起
14:18
and says that Mozambique did worse.
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然後得出結論說莫桑比克的發展(比阿根廷)差多了
14:21
We have to know a little more about the world.
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我們應該更深入了解這個世界
14:23
I have a neighbor who knows 200 types of wine.
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我的鄰居了解200種葡萄酒
14:26
He knows everything.
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他對這些酒瞭如指掌
14:27
He knows the name of the grape, the temperature and everything.
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他知道葡萄的名字,釀酒的溫度
14:29
I only know two types of wine -- red and white.
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我就知道2種葡萄酒,紅的和白的
14:32
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
14:34
But my neighbor only knows two types of countries --
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但是我鄰居就知道2種國家
14:36
industrialized and developing.
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發達國家和發展中國家
14:38
And I know 200, I know about the small data.
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我熟悉200個國家,以及他們的歷年數據
14:41
But you can do that.
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這個你也能做到
14:42
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
14:47
But I have to get serious. And how do you get serious?
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後面我要嚴肅一些,怎麼嚴肅法呢?
14:49
You make a PowerPoint, you know?
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我們需要Power Point
14:51
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
14:56
Homage to the Office package, no?
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向微軟"Office"致敬!
15:00
What is this, what is this, what am I telling?
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下面我想講一下
15:02
I'm telling you that there are many dimensions of development.
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發展的過程是多維的
15:05
Everyone wants your pet thing.
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每個人都有自己的偏好
15:07
If you are in the corporate sector, you love micro-credit.
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如果你為企業部門工作,你會偏愛小額貸款
15:10
If you are fighting in a non-governmental organization,
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如果你在非政府組織工作
15:12
you love equity between gender.
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你更喜歡討論男女平等
15:15
Or if you are a teacher, you'll love UNESCO, and so on.
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如果你是教師,你會首推聯合國教科文組織,等等
15:17
On the global level, we have to have more than our own thing.
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在全球發展的層面,我們的需求其實大同小異
15:19
We need everything.
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這種需求涉及所有領域
15:21
All these things are important for development,
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因為它們都是發展的前提
15:23
especially when you just get out of poverty
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尤其是對於希望脫貧致富的人們
15:25
and you should go towards welfare.
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尤其是對於希望脫貧致富的人們
15:28
Now, what we need to think about
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我們要仔細考慮一下
15:30
is, what is a goal for development,
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哪些是發展的目標
15:33
and what are the means for development?
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哪些是發展的途徑
15:34
Let me first grade what are the most important means.
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先看看最重要的途徑
15:38
Economic growth to me, as a public-health professor,
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經濟的發展,對於公共衛生學教授來說這是一切發展的根本
15:40
is the most important thing for development
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經濟的發展,對於公共衛生學教授來說這是一切發展的根本
15:44
because it explains 80 percent of survival.
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因為經濟是生存的基礎
15:47
Governance. To have a government which functions --
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其次是政府職能,依託一個有效的政府
15:50
that's what brought California out of the misery of 1850.
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加利福尼亞成功的度過了1850年的艱難時期
15:54
It was the government that made law function finally.
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而且政府職能是有效司法體系的基礎
15:58
Education, human resources are important.
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再然後是教育,人力資源非常重要
16:00
Health is also important, but not that much as a mean.
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健康也很重要但不是發展必需的方法
16:04
Environment is important.
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環境也比較重要
16:06
Human rights is also important, but it just gets one cross.
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還有人權,但作為發展的方法,其分量不重
16:08
Now what about goals? Where are we going toward?
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再看發展的目標,我們需要往什麼方向發展
16:11
We are not interested in money.
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肯定不是金錢
16:13
Money is not a goal.
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經濟發展是最好的發展途徑,但不是發展的目標
16:14
It's the best mean, but I give it zero as a goal.
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經濟發展是最好的發展途徑,但不是發展的目標
16:18
Governance, well it's fun to vote in a little thing,
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也許有政府職能,能參加選舉固然不錯
16:21
but it's not a goal.
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但這不足以成為發展的目標
16:23
And going to school, that's not a goal, it's a mean.
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接受教育也不是目標,而是發展的途徑
16:27
Health I give two points. I mean it's nice to be healthy
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健康得2分,因為健康的身體很重要
16:29
-- at my age especially -- you can stand here, you're healthy.
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尤其在我這個年齡還可以站在講台上
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And that's good, it gets two plusses.
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所以健康得2分
16:33
Environment is very, very crucial.
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環境也非常重要
16:35
There's nothing for the grandkid if you don't save up.
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如果現在不保護環境,我們的子孫將一無所有
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But where are the important goals?
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那麼什麼是最重要的發展目標呢
16:39
Of course, it's human rights.
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當然是人權了
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Human rights is the goal,
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人權是發展的核心目標
16:43
but it's not that strong of a mean for achieving development.
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儘管這不是發展的必需途徑
16:47
And culture. Culture is the most important thing, I would say,
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還有文化,我想把文化放在最重要的位置
16:51
because that's what brings joy to life.
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因為文化給我們的生活帶來歡樂
16:53
That's the value of living.
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給生活賦予了意義
16:55
So the seemingly impossible is possible.
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看上去不可能的事情是可能實現的
16:58
Even African countries can achieve this.
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即使是非洲也能做到
17:01
And I've shown you the shot where the seemingly impossible is possible.
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那些圖表已經證明這一點,看上去不可能的事情是可能實現的
17:07
And remember, please remember my main message,
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這就是今天我的演講最重要的內容
17:11
which is this: the seemingly impossible is possible.
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看上去不可能的事情是可能實現的
17:14
We can have a good world.
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明天的世界會更美好
17:16
I showed you the shots, I proved it in the PowerPoint,
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在給你們展示了圖表,還有幻燈片之後
17:19
and I think I will convince you also by culture.
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我要用最後的內容來說服你們,文化
17:25
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
17:29
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
17:30
Bring me my sword!
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拿劍來!
17:36
Sword swallowing is from ancient India.
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吞劍表演
17:41
It's a cultural expression that for thousands of years
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古印度傳承了上千年的傳統表演
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has inspired human beings to think beyond the obvious.
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這項表演一直激勵著人們去探索視野之外的世界
17:52
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
17:54
And I will now prove to you that the seemingly impossible is possible
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今天我也要證明給你們看,看上去不可能的事情是可能實現的
17:59
by taking this piece of steel -- solid steel --
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我將用這把鐵劍,1850年的瑞典軍用刺刀
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this is the army bayonet from the Swedish Army, 1850,
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我將用這把鐵劍,1850年的瑞典軍用刺刀
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in the last year we had war.
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(那年瑞典打完了最後一場戰爭)
18:09
And it's all solid steel -- you can hear here.
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大家可以聽一下,貨真價實
18:12
And I'm going to take this blade of steel,
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接著我會將這把鐵劍
18:18
and push it down through my body of blood and flesh,
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穿過我這血肉之軀
18:23
and prove to you that the seemingly impossible is possible.
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從而向你們證明,看上去不可能的事情是可能實現的
18:28
Can I request a moment of absolute silence?
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請大家保持絕對的安靜
18:43
(Applause)
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