A hilarious celebration of lifelong female friendship | Jane Fonda and Lily Tomlin

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Pat Mitchell: So I was thinking about female friendship a lot,

Pat Mičel: Dakle, razmišljala sam mnogo o ženskom prijateljstvu

and by the way, these two women,

i, usput, ove dve žene,

I'm very honored to say,

čast mi je da kažem,

have been my friends for a very long time, too.

su mi prijateljice odavno, takođe.

Jane Fonda: Yes we have.

Džejn Fonda: Da, jesmo.

PM: And one of the things that I read about female friendship

PM: A nešto što čitam o ženskom prijateljstvu

is something that Cervantes said.

je nešto što je Servantes rekao.

He said, "You can tell a lot about someone,"

Rekao je: "Možeš mnogo toga da zaključiš o nekome",

in this case a woman,

u ovom slučaju o ženi,

"by the company that she keeps."

"na osnovu toga s kim se druži."

So let's start with --

Pa, započnimo -

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

JF: We're in big trouble.

DžF: U ozbiljnom smo problemu.

Lily Tomlin: Hand me one of those waters,

Lili Tomlin: Dodaj mi tu jednu vodu,

I'm extremely dry.

strašno sam žedna.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

JF: You're taking up our time.

DžF: Uzimaš nam vreme.

We have a very limited --

Imamo veoma ograničeno -

LT: Just being with her sucks the life out of me.

LT: Samo njeno prisustvo isisava život iz mene.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

JF: You ain't seen nothing yet.

DžF: Tek ćeš da vidiš.

Anyway -- sorry.

Kako bilo - izvinjavam se.

PM: So tell me, what do you look for in a friend?

PM: Recite mi šta tražite kod prijatelja?

LT: I look for someone who has a sense of fun,

LT: Tražim nekoga ko zna da se zabavlja,

who's audacious,

ko je odvažan,

who's forthcoming, who has politics,

ko je predusretljiv, razume se u politiku,

who has even a small scrap of passion for the planet,

ko iole ima strasti za planetu,

someone who's decent, has a sense of justice

ko je pristojan, ima osećaj za pravdu

and who thinks I'm worthwhile.

i ko me smatra vrednom pažnje.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

JF: You know, I was thinking this morning,

DžF: Znate, razmišljala sam jutros,

I don't even know what I would do without my women friends.

ne znam ni šta bih radila bez mojih prijateljica.

I mean it's, "I have my friends, therefore I am."

Mislim to je: "Imam prijatelje, dakle postojim."

LT: (Laughter)

LT: (Smeh)

JF: No, it's true.

DžF: Ne, istina je.

I exist because I have my women friends. They --

Ja postojim jer imam prijateljice. One -

You're one of them.

Ti si jedna od njih.

I don't know about you. But anyway --

Ne znam za tebe, ali kako bilo -

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

You know, they make me stronger, they make me smarter,

Znate, zbog njih sam jača, zbog njih sam pametnija,

they make me braver.

zbog njih sam hrabrija.

They tap me on the shoulder when I might be in need of course-correcting.

Tapšu me po ramenu kad možda ne idem u pravom smeru.

And most of them are a good deal younger than me, too.

I većinom su prilično mlađe od mene, takođe.

You know? I mean, it's nice -- LT: Thank you.

Znate? Mislim, lepo je to - LT: Hvala ti.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

JF: No, I do, I include you in that, because listen, you know --

DžF: Ne, zaista, tu i tebe podrazumevam jer, slušaj, znaš -

it's nice to have somebody still around to play with and learn from

lepo je i dalje imati nekoga blizu sebe za igru i učenje

when you're getting toward the end.

kada se bližite kraju.

I'm approaching -- I'll be there sooner than you.

Sve sam bliže - stići ću tamo pre tebe.

LT: No, I'm glad to have you parallel aging alongside me.

LT: Ne, drago mi je da mogu da starim paralelno uz tebe.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

JF: I'm showing you the way.

DžF: Pokazujem ti kako.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

LT: Well, you are and you have.

LT: Pa, zaista to radiš i radila si.

PM: Well, as we grow older,

PM: Dakle, kako starimo

and as we go through different kinds of life's journeys,

i kako prolazimo kroz različite vidove životnih iskustava,

what do you do to keep your friendships vital and alive?

šta radite da biste očuvale prijateljstvo vitalnim i živim?

LT: Well you have to use a lot of --

LT: Pa, morate mnogo da koristite -

JF: She doesn't invite me over much, I'll tell you that.

DžF: Ne poziva me kod sebe često, to vam mogu reći.

LT: I have to use a lot of social media --

LT: Moram često da budem na društvenim mrežama -

You be quiet now. And so --

Ti, tiho tamo. I tako -

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

LT: And I look through my emails, I look through my texts

LT: I pregledam moje mejlove, SMS poruke

to find my friends,

kako bih našla prijatelje,

so I can answer them as quickly as possible,

i odgovorila im što je brže moguće

because I know they need my counsel.

jer znam da im je potreban moj savet.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

They need my support,

Potrebna im je moja podrška

because most of my friends are writers, or activists, or actors,

jer su moji prijatelji većinom pisci, aktvisti ili glumci,

and you're all three ...

a ti si sve to...

and a long string of other descriptive phrases,

i čitav niz drugih opisnih fraza

and I want to get to you as soon as possible,

i želim da ti odgovorim što je pre moguće,

I want you to know that I'm there for you.

želim da znaš da sam tu za tebe.

JF: Do you do emojis?

DžF: Koristiš li emotikone?

LT: Oh ... JF: No?

LT: Uh... DžF: Ne?

LT: That's embarrassing. JF: I'm really into emojis.

LT: Sramota me je. DžF: Ja baš volim emotikone.

LT: No, I spell out my --

LT: Ne, ja ispisujem --

I spell out my words of happiness and congratulations,

Ispisujem svoje izraze sreće i čestitke,

and sadness.

i tugu.

JF: You spell it right out --

DžF: Ispisuješ sve do tančina -

LT: I spell it, every letter.

LT: Ispisujem svako slovo.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

JF: Such a purist.

DžF: Kakva puritanka.

You know, as I've gotten older,

Znate, kako starim,

I've understood more the importance of friendships,

sve više razumem značaj prijateljstva

and so, I really make an effort

i zato se zaista trudim

to reach out and make play dates -- not let too much time go by.

da posegnem i zakažem sastanke - da ne dozvolim da prođe previše vremena.

I read a lot

Čitam mnogo,

so, as Lily knows all too well,

kao što je Lili isuviše dobro poznato,

knjige koje mi se svide, šaljem prijateljima.

my books that I like, I send to my friends.

LT: When we knew we would be here today

LT: Kad smo saznale da ćemo danas biti ovde

you sent me a lot of books about women, female friendships,

poslala si mi gomilu knjiga o ženama, ženskim prijateljstvima

and I was so surprised to see how many books,

i bila sam iznenađena tolikim brojem knjiga,

how much research has been done recently --

kolika su istraživanja odrađena u skorije vreme -

JF: And were you grateful? LT: I was grateful.

DžF: Jesi li mi bila zahvalna? LT: Bila sam zahvalna.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

PM: And --

PM: I -

LT: Wait, no, it's really important because this is another example

LT: Sačekajte, ne, ovo je zaista važno jer ovo je još jedan primer

of how women are overlooked, put aside, marginalized.

kako su žene zapostavljene, ostavljene po strani, marginalizovane.

There's been very little research done on us,

Veoma malo istraživanja je obavljeno na nama,

even though we volunteered lots of times.

iako smo volontirale više puta.

JF: That's for sure.

DžF: To je istina.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

LT: This is really exciting, and you all will be interested in this.

LT: Ovo je veoma uzbudljivo i ovo će da vam bude zanimljivo.

The Harvard Medical School study has shown

Istraživanje Medicinske škole na Harvardu je pokazalo

that women who have close female friendships

da žene koje imaju bliske prijateljice

are less likely to develop impairments --

su manje podložne pogoršanjima -

physical impairments as they age,

fizičkim pogoršanjima kako stare

and they are likely to be seen to be living much more vital, exciting --

i češće odaju utisak kao da žive vitalnije, uzbudljivije -

JF: And longer --

DžF: I duže -

LT: Joyful lives.

LT: Radosnije živote.

JF: We live five years longer than men.

DžF: Živimo pet godina duže od muškaraca.

LT: I think I'd trade the years for joy.

LT: Mislim da bih menjala godine za užitak.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

LT: But the most important part is they found --

LT: Ali najvažniji deo je da su otkrili -

the results were so exciting and so conclusive --

rezultati su bili tako uzbudljivi i tako ubedljivi -

the researchers found

istraživači su otkrili

that not having close female friends is detrimental to your health,

da je odsustvo bliskih prijateljica štetno po vaše zdravlje,

as much as smoking or being overweight.

koliko i pušenje ili gojaznost.

JF: And there's something else, too --

DžF: Tu je još nešto takođe -

LT: I've said my part, so ...

LT: Rekla sam svoje, pa...

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

JF: OK, well, listen to my part, because there's an additional thing.

DžF: U redu, pa, saslušaj sad moj deo jer ima tu još nešto.

Because they only -- for years, decades --

Zato što su jedino - godinama, decenijama -

they only researched men when they were trying to understand stress,

jedino su istraživali muškarce kada su pokušavali da shvate stres,

only very recently have they researched what happens to women when we're stressed,

tek su u skorije vreme počeli da istražuju šta se dešava ženama kad su pod stresom

and it turns out that when we're stressed -- women,

i ispostavilo se da kada smo pod stresom - žene,

our bodies get flooded by oxytocin.

naša tela preplavi oksitocin.

Which is a feel-good, calming, stress-reducing hormone.

To je hormon dobrog raspoloženja, koji umiruje i umanjuje stres.

Which is also increased when we're with our women friends.

Koji takođe raste kada smo s prijateljicama.

And I do think that's one reason why we live longer.

I smatram da je to jedan od razloga zašto živimo duže.

And I feel so bad for men because they don't have that.

I žao mi je muškaraca jer nemaju to.

Testosterone in men diminishes the effects of oxytocin.

Testosteron kod muškaraca umanjuje efekte oksitocina.

LT: Well, when you and I and Dolly made "9 to 5" ...

LT: Pa, kad smo ti, ja i Doli po čitavi dan...

JF: Oh --

DžF: Oh -

LT: We laughed, we did, we laughed so much,

LT: Smejale smo se, da, toliko smo se smejale

we found we had so much in common and we're so different.

jer imamo toliko toga zajedničkog, a tako smo različite.

Here she is, like Hollywood royalty,

Ona je poput holivudske plemićke,

I'm like a tough kid from Detroit,

ja sam poput grubog deteta iz Detroita,

[Dolly's] a Southern kid from a poor town in Tennessee,

[Doli] je dete s juga, iz siromašnog grada Tenesija,

and we found we were so in sync as women,

a otkrile smo da smo potpuno saglasne kao žene

and we must have --

i mora da smo -

we laughed -- we must have added at least a decade onto our lifespans.

toliko smo se smejale - da mora da smo međusobno produžile živote za deceniju.

JF: I think -- we sure crossed our legs a lot.

DžF: Verujem - svakako je bilo mnogo prekrštanja nogu.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

If you know what I mean.

Ako znate na šta mislim.

LT: I think we all know what you mean.

LT: Svi znamo na šta misliš.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

PM: You're adding decades to our lives right now.

PM: Dodajete nam decenije upravo sad.

So among the books that Jane sent us both to read on female friendship

Dakle, među knjigama koje nam je Džejn poslala da čitamo o ženskom prijateljstvu

was one by a woman we admire greatly, Sister Joan Chittister,

je jedna od žene kojoj se mnogo divimo, Sestre Džoan Čitister,

who said about female friendship

koja je rekla za žensko prijateljstvo

that women friends are not just a social act,

da prijateljice nisu samo društveni čin,

they're a spiritual act.

one su duhovni čin.

Do you think of your friends as spiritual?

Da li razmišljaš tako o svojim prijateljicama?

Do they add something spiritual to your lives?

Donose li dozu duhovnosti u tvoj život?

LT: Spiritual -- I absolutely think that.

LT: Duhovnost - apsolutno verujem u to.

Because -- especially people you've known a long time,

Jer - naročito ljudi koje poznajete veoma dugo,

people you've spent time with --

s kojim ste provodili vreme -

I can see the spiritual essence inside them,

mogu da vidim duhovnu srž u njima,

the tenderness, the vulnerability.

nežnost, ranjivost.

There's actually kind of a love, an element of love in the relationship.

Zapravo to je vid ljubavi, elemenat ljubavi u vezi.

I just see deeply into your soul.

Mogu skroz da ti vidim dušu.

PM: Do you think that, Jane --

PM: Slažeš li se, Džejn -

LT: But I have special powers.

LT: Međutim ja imam supermoći.

JF: Well, there's all kinds of friends.

DžF: Pa, postoje razna prijateljstva.

There's business friends, and party friends,

Postoje poslovni prijatelji i prijatelji za žurke,

I've got a lot of those.

imam mnogo tih.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

But the oxytocin-producing friendships have ...

Međutim prijateljstva koja proizvode oksitocin...

They feel spiritual because it's a heart opening, right?

Imaju duhovnu auru jer otvaraju dušu, zar ne?

You know, we go deep. And --

Znate, razotkrivamo se. I -

I find that I shed tears a lot with my intimate friends.

otkrila sam da mnogo plačem sa svojim prisnim prijateljicama.

Not because I'm sad but because I'm so touched and inspired by them.

Ne zato što sam tužna, već zato što sam dirnuta i inspirisana njima.

LT: And you know one of you is going to go soon.

LT: A znaš i da će jedna od vas uskoro da umre.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

PM: Well, two of us are sitting here, Lily, which one are you talking about?

PM: Pa, nas dve sedimo ovde, Lili, o kojoj pričaš?

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

And I always think, when women talk about their friendships,

I uvek mislim da kad žene pričaju o svojim prijateljstvima,

that men always look a little mystified.

da muškarci uvek izgledaju zbunjeno.

What are the differences, in your opinion,

Koje su razlike, po tvom mišljenju,

between men friendships and women friendships?

između muških i ženskih prijateljstava?

JF: There's a lot of difference,

DžF: Ima mnogo razlike

and I think we have to have a lot of empathy for men --

i mislim da moramo da imamo mnogo saosećanja prema muškarcima -

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

that they don't have what we have.

jer nemaju to što mi imamo.

Which I think may be why they die sooner.

Zbog čega mislim da ranije umiru.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

I have a lot of compassion for men,

Saosećam mnogo s muškarcima

because women, no kidding, we --

jer žene, bez šale, mi -

women's relationships, our friendships are full disclosure, we go deep.

ženske veze, naša prijateljstva su potpuno razotkrivanje, mi se predajemo.

They're revelatory.

To su otkrovenja.

We risk vulnerability -- this is something men don't do.

Mi rizikujemo ranjivost - nešto što muškarci ne rade.

I mean how many times have I asked you, "Am I doing OK?"

Mislim, koliko puta sam te upitala: "Kako mi ide?"

"Did I really screw up there?"

"Jesam li zaista zabrljala na sceni?"

PM: You're doing great.

PM: Sjajno ti ide.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

JF: But I mean, we ask questions like that

DžF: Ali, mislim, mi postavljamo takva pitanja

of our women friends,

našim prijateljicama,

and men don't.

muškarci ne.

You know, people describe women's relationships as face-to-face,

Znate, ženska prijateljstva se opisuju kao direktna, licem u lice,

whereas men's friendships are more side-by-side.

dok su muška prijateljstva više bok uz bok.

LT: I mean most of the time men don't want to reveal their emotions,

LT: Mislim, muškarci uglavnom ne žele da otkriju svoje emocije,

they want to bury deeper feelings.

žele da zakopaju dublja osećanja.

I mean, that's the general, conventional thought.

Mislim, to je uopšteno konvencionalna misao.

They would rather go off in their man cave and watch a game or hit golf balls,

Radije bi otišli u svoju mušku pećinu, gledali utakmicu, udarali loptice za golf

or talk about sports, or hunting, or cars or have sex.

ili pričali o sportu ili o automobilima ili išli u lov ili bi imali seks.

I mean, it's just the kind of -- it's a more manly behavior.

Mislim, to je nekako - to je muževnije ponašanje.

JF: You meant -- LT: They talk about sex.

DžF: Šta si mislila pod - LT: Pričaju o seksu.

I meant they might have sex

Mislim, mogu da imaju seks,

if they could get somebody in their man cave to --

ako mogu da dovedu nekoga u svoju mušku pećinu da -

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

JF: You know something, though, that I find very interesting --

DžF: Znate li šta mi je zanimljivo, pak, to mi je veoma zanimljivo -

and again, psychologists didn't know this until relatively recently --

i opet, psiholozi nisu znali za ovo sve do skoro -

is that men are born every bit as relational as women are.

da su muškarci rođeni u potpunosti skloni vezama kao žene.

If you look at films of newborn baby boys and girls,

Ako pogledate snimke novorođenih dečaka i devojčica,

you'll see the baby boys just like the girls,

videćete da dečaci, baš kao i devojčice,

gazing into their mother's eyes,

zure u majčine oči,

you know, needing that relational exchange of energy.

znate, potrebna im je međusobna razmena energije.

When the mother looks away, they could see the dismay on the child,

Kad majka odvrati pogled, može da se vidi zaprepašćenje kod deteta,

even the boy would cry.

čak bi i dečaci zaplakali.

They need relationship.

Potrebne su im veze.

So the question is why, as they grow older, does that change?

Pa je pitanje: zašto se, kako odrastaju, to menja?

And the answer is patriarchal culture,

A odgovor je u patrijarhalnoj kulturi,

which says to boys and young men

koja govori dečacima i mladićima

that to be needing of relationship, to be emotional with someone is girly.

da je potreba za vezom, za razmenom osećanja s nekim, za devojčice.

That a real man doesn't ask directions or express a need,

Da pravi muškarac ne pita za smer ili ne ispoljava potrebe,

they don't go to doctors if they feel bad.

ne ide kod doktora kad se oseća loše.

They don't ask for help.

Ne pita za pomoć.

There's a quote that I really like,

Postoji citat koji baš volim:

"Men fear that becoming 'we' will erase his 'I'."

"Muškarci se plaše da kad bi postali 'mi' to izbrisalo njihovo 'ja'."

You know, his sense of self.

Znate, njihovu svest o sebi.

Whereas women's sense of self has always been kind of porous.

Dok je svest o sebi kod žena oduvek bila nekako porozna.

But our "we" is our saving grace,

Međutim naše "mi" je naše iskupljenje,

it's what makes us strong.

to nas čini jakima.

It's not that we're better than men,

Nismo bolje od muškaraca,

we just don't have our masculinity to prove.

samo ne moramo da dokazujemo svoju muževnost.

LT: And, well --

LT: Pa, da -

JF: That's a Gloria Steinem quote.

DžF: To je citat Glorije Stajnam.

So we can express our humanity -- LT: I know who Gloria Steinem is.

Dakle, mi ispoljavamo našu ljudskost - LT: Znam ko je Glorija Stajnam.

JF: I know you know who she is, but I think it's a --

DžF: Znam da znaš ko je, ali verujem da -

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

No, but it's a great quote, I think.

Ne, smatram da je to sjajan citat.

We're not better than men, we just don't have our masculinity to prove.

Nismo bolje od mušakaraca, prosto ne moramo da dokazujemo muževnost.

And that's really important.

A to je zaista važno.

LT: But men are so inculcated in the culture

LT: Međutim muškarci su tako stopljeni s kulturom

to be comfortable in the patriarchy.

da im je udobno u patrijarhatu.

And we've got to make something different happen.

A mi moramo nešto da promenimo.

JF: Women's friendships are like a renewable source of power.

DžF: Ženska prijateljstva su poput obnovljivih izvora energije.

LT: Well, that's what's exciting about this subject.

LT: Pa, to je uzbudljivo kod ove teme.

It's because our friendships --

Zato što naša prijateljstva -

female friendships are just a hop to our sisterhood,

ženska prijateljstva su prosto skokovi u sestrinstva,

and sisterhood can be a very powerful force,

a sestrinstvo može da bude veoma jaka sila,

to give the world --

da podari svetu,

to make it what it should be --

da bude ono što bi trebalo da bude -

the things that humans desperately need.

ono što ljudima očajnički treba.

PM: It is why we're talking about it,

PM: Zato razgovaramo o tome

because women's friendships are,

jer su ženska prijateljstva,

as you said, Jane,

kao što si rekla, Džejn,

a renewable source of power.

obnovljivi izvori energije.

So how do we use that power?

Pa, kako da iskoristimo tu moć?

JF: Well, women are the fastest growing demographic in the world,

DžF: Pa, žene su najbrže rastuća populacija u svetu,

especially older women.

naročito starije žene.

And if we harness our power, we can change the world.

I, ako bismo upregli našu snagu, mogle bismo da promenimo svet.

And guess what? We need to.

I znate šta? Moramo.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

And we need to do it soon.

I moramo to da uradimo što pre.

And one of the things that we need to do --

A jedna od stvari koje moramo da uradimo -

and we can do it as women --

a mi to, kao žene, možemo -

for one thing, we kind of set the consumer standards.

za početak, nekako smo podesili potrošačke standarde.

We need to consume less.

Moramo manje da trošimo.

We in the Western world need to consume less

Mi u zapadnom svetu moramo manje da trošimo

and when we buy things, we need to buy things that are made locally,

i kada kupujemo stvari, treba da kupujemo stvari lokalnog porekla,

when we buy food, we need to buy food that's grown locally.

kada kupujemo hranu, treba da kupujemo hranu koja je uzgajana lokalno.

We are the ones that need to get off the grid.

Mi smo ti koji moramo da budemo nezavisni od tržišta.

We need to make ourselves independent from fossil fuels.

Moramo da se oslobodimo zavisnosti od fosilnih goriva.

And the fossil fuel companies --

A kompanije za fosilna goriva -

the Exxons and the Shell Oils and those bad guys --

Eksons i Šel Oils i drugi negativci -

cause they are --

jer to jesu -

are going to tell us that we can't do it without going back to the Stone Age.

će nam reći da ne možemo to da uradimo, a da se ne vratimo u kameno doba.

You know, that the alternatives just aren't quite there yet,

Znate, da alternative prosto još uvek nisu dovoljno dobre,

and that's not true.

a to nije istina.

There are countries in the world right now

Trenutno imamo države u svetu

that are living mostly on renewable energy and doing just fine.

koje uglavnom žive na obnovljivoj energiji i ništa im ne fali.

And they tell us that if we do wean ourselves from fossil fuel

I govore nam da, ako se odviknemo od fosilnih goriva,

that we're going to be back in the Stone Age,

da ćemo se vratiti u kameno doba,

and in fact, if we begin to use renewable energy,

a zapravo, ako počnemo da koristimo obnovljivu energiju,

umesto što kopamo po Arktiku, umesto što kopamo -

and not drill in the Arctic, and not drill --

LT: Oh, boy.

LT: O, bože.

JF: And not drill in the Alberta tar sands --

DžF: I da ne kopamo po naftnom pesku Alberte -

Right.

Je li tako?

That we will be --

Bićemo -

there will be more democracy and more jobs and more well-being,

imaćemo više demokratije i više poslova i biće više opšteg dobra,

and it's women that are going to lead the way.

a žene su te koje će da predvode.

LT: Maybe we have the momentum to start a third-wave feminist movement

LT: Možda imamo impuls da započnemo treći talas feminističkog pokreta

with our sisterhood around the world,

s našim sestrinstvima širom sveta,

with women we don't see, women we may never meet,

s ženama koje ne vidimo, ženama koje nikad ne srećemo,

but we join together that way,

ali se na taj način udružimo

because --

jer -

Aristotle said --

Aristotel je rekao -

most people --

većina ljudi -

people would die without male friendships.

ljudi bi umrli bez muških prijatelja.

And the operative word here was "male."

Glavna reč ovde je "muških".

Because they thought that friendships should be between equals

Smatrali su da bi prijateljstva trebalo da budu među jednakim,

and women were not considered equal --

a žene nisu smatrane jednakim -

JF: They didn't think we had souls even, the Greeks.

DžF: Grci nisu smatrali čak ni da imamo duše.

LT: No, exactly. That shows you just how limited Aristotle was.

LT: Ne, baš tako. To vam pokazuje samo koliko je ograničen bio Aristotel.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

And wait, no, here's the best part.

I sačekajte, ne, ovo je najbolji deo.

It's like, you know, men do need women now.

Znači, znate, muškarcima su sada potrebne žene.

The planet needs women.

Planeti su potrebne žene.

The US Constitution needs women.

Ustavu SAD-a su potrebne žene.

We are not even in the Constitution.

Mi nismo čak ni u Ustavu.

JF: You're talking about the Equal Rights Amendment.

DžF: Govoriš o Amandmanu o jednakim pravima.

LT: Right.

LT: Baš tako.

Justice Ginsberg said something like --

Džastis Ginzberg je rekla nešto u smislu -

every constitution that's been written since the end of World War II

u svaki ustav koji je napisan od završetka Drugog svetskog rata,

included a provision that made women citizens of equal stature,

uvrštena je odredba kojom su žene proglašene građanima jednakog statusa,

but ours does not.

međutim u našem nije tako.

So that would be a good place to start.

Pa bi bilo dobro početi odatle.

Very, very mild --

Veoma, veoma blago -

JF: Right.

DžF: Upravo tako.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

And gender equality, it's like a tide,

A rodna ravnopravnost je poput plime,

it would lift all boats, not just women.

podigla bi sve brodove, ne samo žene.

PM: Needing new role models on how to do that.

PM: Potrebni su nam novi uzori kako bismo to postigli.

How to be friends,

Kako da budemo prijatelji,

how to think about our power in different ways,

kako da razmišljamo o moći drugačije,

as consumers,

kao potrošači,

as citizens of the world,

kao građani sveta

and this is what makes Jane and Lily

a zbog ovoga su Džejn i Lili

a role model of how women can be friends --

uzori za ženska prijateljstva -

for a very long time,

na dugi vremenski period,

and even if they occasionally disagree.

pa čak i kad se povremeno ne slažu.

Thank you.

Hvala vam.

Thank you both.

Havala vam obema.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

JF: Thanks.

DžF: Hvala.

LT: Thank you.

LT: Hvala vam.

JF: Thank you.

DžF: Hvala vam.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)