Lesley Hazleton: The doubt essential to faith

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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Writing biography is a strange thing to do.
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Pisati biografijo je čudno.
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It's a journey into the foreign territory
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To je potovanje v neznano deželo
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of somebody else's life,
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življenja nekoga drugega,
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a journey, an exploration that can take you places
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potovanje, raziskovanje, ki te lahko popelje tja,
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you never dreamed of going
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kamor si nikoli nisi mislil, da boš šel,
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and still can't quite believe you've been,
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in še vedno ne moreš verjeti, da si bil tam,
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especially if, like me, you're an agnostic Jew
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še posebej, če si kot jaz agnostični žid,
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and the life you've been exploring
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in je življenje, ki ga raziskuješ,
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is that of Muhammad.
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Mohamedovo.
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Five years ago, for instance,
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Pet let nazaj
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I found myself waking each morning in misty Seattle
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sem se vsako jutro zbujala v meglen Seattle
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to what I knew was an impossible question:
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z nemogočim vprašanjem:
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What actually happened
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Kaj se je dejansko zgodilo
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one desert night,
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neko noč v puščavi,
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half the world and almost half of history away?
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pol sveta in skoraj pol zgodovine daleč stran?
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What happened, that is,
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Kaj se je zgodilo
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on the night in the year 610
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v noči leta 610,
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when Muhammad received the first revelation of the Koran
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ko je Mohamed prejel prvo razodetje Korana
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on a mountain just outside Mecca?
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na gori nad Meko?
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This is the core mystical moment of Islam,
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To je ključni mistični moment islama
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and as such, of course,
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in se kot tak seveda
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it defies empirical analysis.
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izmika empirični analizi.
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Yet the question wouldn't let go of me.
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A vendar mi vprašanje ni dalo miru.
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I was fully aware that for someone as secular as I am,
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Dobro sem se zavedala, da je za nekoga tako nevernega, kot sem sama,
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just asking it could be seen
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že samo postaviti to vprašanje izgledalo
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as pure chutzpah.
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kot dejanje predrznosti.
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
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And I plead guilty as charged,
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Priznam krivdo,
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because all exploration, physical or intellectual,
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saj je vsako raziskovanje, fizično ali intelektualno,
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is inevitably in some sense an act of transgression,
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neizogibno neke vrste prestopek,
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of crossing boundaries.
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prestopanje meja.
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Still, some boundaries are larger than others.
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A vendar so nekatere meje večje od drugih.
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So a human encountering the divine,
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Človek, ki se sreča z božanskim,
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as Muslims believe Muhammad did,
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kot muslimani verjamejo, da se je Mohamed,
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to the rationalist, this is a matter not of fact
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za racionalneža ni dejstvo,
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but of wishful fiction,
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temveč le pobožna želja,
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and like all of us, I like to think of myself as rational.
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in kot vsi, se imam tudi jaz za racionalno osebo.
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Which might be why when I looked at the earliest accounts
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Kar je lahko razlog, da ko sem se poglobila v zgodnja pričevanja,
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we have of that night,
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ki jih imamo o tisti noči,
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what struck me even more than what happened
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me je bolj kot kaj se je zgodilo,
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was what did not happen.
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presenetilo tisto, kar se ni.
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Muhammad did not come floating off the mountain
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Mohamed se ni vrnil z gore
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as though walking on air.
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plavajoč na oblaku.
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He did not run down shouting, "Hallelujah!"
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Ni pritekel navzdol vpijoč: "Aleluja!"
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and "Bless the Lord!"
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in "Hvaljen Bog!"
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He did not radiate light and joy.
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Ni izžareval svetlobe in veselja.
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There were no choirs of angels,
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Niso ga spremljali zbori angelov,
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no music of the spheres, no elation, no ecstasy,
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bilo ni nobene nebeške glasbe, nobene vznesenosti, nobene ekstaze,
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no golden aura surrounding him,
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ni ga obdajal zlati sij,
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no sense of an absolute, fore-ordained role
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ni ga preveval občutek vzvišenosti in posvečenosti
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as the messenger of God.
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glasnika Boga.
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That is, he did none of the things
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Naredil ni nobene od stvari,
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that might make it easy to cry foul,
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ki bi olajšale ljudem, da ga označijo za prevaranta
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to put down the whole story as a pious fable.
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in zavržejo celotno zgodbo kot versko pripovedko.
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Quite the contrary.
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Nasprotno.
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In his own reported words,
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Po svojih lastnih besedah
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he was convinced at first
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je bil sprva prepričan,
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that what had happened couldn't have been real.
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da kar se je zgodilo, ni moglo biti resnično.
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At best, he thought, it had to have been a hallucination --
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V najboljšem primeru je bila halucinacija -
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a trick of the eye or the ear, perhaps,
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mogoče trik očesa ali ušesa,
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or his own mind working against him.
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ali njegov lastni um, ki je deloval proti njemu.
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At worst, possession --
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V najslabšem primeru, obsedenost -
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that he'd been seized by an evil jinn,
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obsedel ga je zlobni duh,
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a spirit out to deceive him,
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duh, ki ga je želel zavesti,
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even to crush the life out of him.
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iztisniti življenje iz njega.
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In fact, he was so sure that he could only be majnun,
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Bil je tako prepričan, da je bil Majnun,
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possessed by a jinn,
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obseden od zlobnega duha,
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that when he found himself still alive,
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da je ob spoznanju, da je še vedno živ,
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his first impulse was to finish the job himself,
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najprej hotel sam dokončati delo,
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to leap off the highest cliff
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se vreči z najvišje pečine
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and escape the terror of what he'd experienced
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in ubežati strahotam, ki jih je doživel,
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by putting an end to all experience.
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ter tako končati svoje življenje.
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So the man who fled down the mountain that night
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Moža, ki je tisto noč pritekel iz gore,
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trembled not with joy
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ni prevevalo veselje,
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but with a stark, primordial fear.
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temveč globok, prvobitni strah.
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He was overwhelmed not with conviction, but by doubt.
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Bil je preplavljen ne z odločnostjo, temveč z dvomom.
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And that panicked disorientation,
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In ta panična zmedenost,
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that sundering of everything familiar,
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ta razdvojenost vsega poznanega,
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that daunting awareness of something
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ta zastrašujoča zavest nečesa,
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beyond human comprehension,
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kar presega človeški razum,
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can only be called a terrible awe.
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je lahko le hudo strahospoštovanje.
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This might be somewhat difficult to grasp
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To je morda težko razumeti,
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now that we use the word "awesome"
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ko danes besedo 'hudo'
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to describe a new app or a viral video.
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uporabljamo za novo mobilno aplikacijo ali viralni video.
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With the exception perhaps of a massive earthquake,
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Z morebitno izjemo obsežnega potresa
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we're protected from real awe.
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smo zaščiteni pred resnično hudimi stvarmi.
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We close the doors and hunker down,
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Zapremo vrata in se pritajimo,
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convinced that we're in control,
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prepričani, da imamo nadzor,
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or, at least, hoping for control.
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ali vsaj upamo na nadzor.
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We do our best to ignore the fact that
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Po svojih najboljših močeh ignoriramo dejstvo,
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we don't always have it,
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da ga vselej nimamo
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and that not everything can be explained.
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in da se ne da vsega pojasniti.
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Yet whether you're a rationalist or a mystic,
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A vendar ne glede na to ali ste racionalna ali mistična oseba,
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whether you think the words Muhammad heard that night
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ali mislite, da so besede, ki jih je Mohamed slišal tisto noč,
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came from inside himself or from outside,
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prišle iz njega ali od zunaj,
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what's clear is that he did experience them,
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je jasno, da jih je doživel
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and that he did so with a force that would shatter
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in da jih je doživel s silo, ki je porušila
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his sense of himself and his world
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njegov občutek sebstva in razumevanje sveta
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and transform this otherwise modest man
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ter preoblikovala drugače skromnega moža
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into a radical advocate for social and economic justice.
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v radikalnega zagovornika družbene in gospodarske pravičnosti.
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Fear was the only sane response,
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Strah je bil edini razumen odziv,
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the only human response.
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edini človeški odziv.
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Too human for some,
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Za nekatere celo preveč človeški,
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like conservative Muslim theologians who maintain that
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kot na primer za konzervativne muslimanske teologe, ki vztrajajo,
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the account of his wanting to kill himself
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da njegova želja, da bi se ubil,
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shouldn't even be mentioned, despite the fact
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ne bi smela biti niti omenjena, kljub temu
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that it's in the earliest Islamic biographies.
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da je zapisana v zgodnjih muslimanskih biografijah.
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They insist that he never doubted
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Vztrajajo, da Mohamed ni dvomil
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for even a single moment, let alone despaired.
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niti za trenutek, kaj šele obupal.
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Demanding perfection, they refuse to tolerate
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Zahtevajoč popolnost zavračajo
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human imperfection.
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človeško nepopolnost.
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Yet what, exactly, is imperfect about doubt?
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In vendar, kaj natančno je nepopolnega na dvomu?
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As I read those early accounts, I realized it was
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Ko sem brala zgodnje pripovedi, sem doumela,
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precisely Muhammad's doubt that brought him alive for me,
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da je bil prav Mohamedov dvom tisto, kar ga je oživilo v mojih očeh,
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that allowed me to begin to see him in full,
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kar mi je dovolilo, da sem ga videla v celoti,
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to accord him the integrity of reality.
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da sem mu priznala integriteto resničnosti.
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And the more I thought about it,
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In bolj ko sem razmišljala o tem,
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the more it made sense that he doubted,
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bolj se mi je zdelo smiselno, da je dvomil,
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because doubt is essential to faith.
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saj je dvom bistvo vere.
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If this seems a startling idea at first,
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Če se to sprva zdi presenetljiva ideja,
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consider that doubt, as Graham Greene once put it,
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pomislite, da je dvom, kot je nekoč rekel Graham Greene,
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is the heart of the matter.
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srčika stvari.
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Abolish all doubt, and what's left is not faith,
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Če odpravite ves dvom, vam ne ostane vera,
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but absolute, heartless conviction.
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temveč vzvišena, brezsrčna odločnost.
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You're certain that you possess the Truth --
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Prepričani ste, da poznate Resnico -
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inevitably offered with an implied uppercase T --
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neizogibno ponujeno z implicitno veliko začetnico -
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and this certainty quickly devolves
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in to se zagotovo prav hitro preoblikuje
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into dogmatism and righteousness,
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v dogmatizem in pravičništvo,
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by which I mean a demonstrative, overweening pride
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s čimer mislim odkrit, aroganten ponos
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in being so very right,
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absolutne pravilnosti,
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in short, the arrogance of fundamentalism.
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na kratko, aroganco fundamentalizma.
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It has to be one of the multiple ironies of history
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Najbrž je ena izmed mnogih ironij zgodovine,
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that a favorite expletive of Muslim fundamentalists
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da je najljubša psovka muslimanskih fundamentalistov
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is the same one once used by the Christian fundamentalists
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enaka tisti, ki so jo nekoč uporabljali krščanski fundamentalisti,
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known as Crusaders:
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poznani kot križarji:
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"infidel," from the Latin for "faithless."
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"infidel" izpeljana iz latinske besede za "nevernika."
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Doubly ironic, in this case, because their absolutism
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V tem primeru dvojno ironično, saj je njihova vzvišenost
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is in fact the opposite of faith.
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pravzaprav nasprotje vere.
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In effect, they are the infidels.
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V bistvu so oni neverniki.
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Like fundamentalists of all religious stripes,
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Tako kot fundamentalisti vseh religijskih barv
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they have no questions, only answers.
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tudi oni nimajo nobenih vprašanj, samo odgovore.
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They found the perfect antidote to thought
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Našli so popoln protistrup mišljenju
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and the ideal refuge of the hard demands of real faith.
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in idealno zatočišče težkih zahtev prave vere.
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They don't have to struggle for it like Jacob
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Ni se jim treba boriti zanjo, kot se je Jakob,
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wrestling through the night with the angel,
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ki se je vso noč boril z angelom,
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or like Jesus in his 40 days and nights in the wilderness,
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ali kot Jezus v svojih 40 dneh in nočeh v divjini,
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or like Muhammad, not only that night on the mountain,
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ali kot Mohamed, ne le tiste noči na gori,
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but throughout his years as a prophet,
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temveč tudi vsa leta kot prerok,
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with the Koran constantly urging him not to despair,
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ko ga je Koran nenehno pozival, naj ne obupa,
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and condemning those who most loudly proclaim
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in obsojal tiste, ki so najglasneje vztrajali,
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that they know everything there is to know
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da vedo vse, kar se da vedeti,
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and that they and they alone are right.
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in da imajo le oni prav.
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And yet we, the vast and still far too silent majority,
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In vendar smo mi, obsežna in še vedno veliko pretiha večina,
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have ceded the public arena to this extremist minority.
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prepustili javno prizorišče tem ekstremističnim manjšinam.
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We've allowed Judaism to be claimed
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Prepustili smo, da si judaizem prilaščajo
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by violently messianic West Bank settlers,
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nasilni mesijanski prebivalci Zahodnega brega,
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Christianity by homophobic hypocrites
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krščanstvo homofobni hinavci
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and misogynistic bigots,
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in šovinistični nestrpneži,
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Islam by suicide bombers.
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islam samomorilski napadalci.
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And we've allowed ourselves to be blinded to the fact that
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In dovolili smo si spregledati dejstvo,
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no matter whether they claim to be Christians,
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da ne glede na to ali trdijo, da so kristjani,
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Jews or Muslims,
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judje ali muslimani,
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militant extremists are none of the above.
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militantni ekstremisti niso nič od naštetega.
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They're a cult all their own, blood brothers
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So svojevrsten kult, krvni bratje
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steeped in other people's blood.
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prežeti s krvjo drugih.
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This isn't faith.
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To ni vera.
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It's fanaticism, and we have to stop confusing the two.
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To je fanatizem in moramo ju prenehati zamenjevati.
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We have to recognize that real faith has no easy answers.
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Moramo spoznati, da resnična vera nima enostavnih odgovorov.
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It's difficult and stubborn.
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Je težavna in trmasta.
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It involves an ongoing struggle,
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Vključuje stalen boj,
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a continual questioning of what we think we know,
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nenehno preizpraševanje tega, kar mislimo, da vemo,
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a wrestling with issues and ideas.
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spopad z vprašanji in idejami.
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It goes hand in hand with doubt,
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Gre z roko v roki z dvomom
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in a never-ending conversation with it,
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v neskončnem pogovoru z njim
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and sometimes in conscious defiance of it.
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in z občasnim zavestnim kljubovanjem dvomu.
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And this conscious defiance is why I, as an agnostic,
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In prav zavestno kljubovanje je razlog, da imam kot agnostik
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can still have faith.
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še vedno lahko vero.
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I have faith, for instance, that peace in the Middle East
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Imam vero, denimo, da je mir na Bližnjem vzhodu
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is possible despite the ever-accumulating mass of evidence
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možen, kljub čedalje večjemu številu dokazov
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to the contrary.
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o nasprotnem.
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I'm not convinced of this.
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Tega ne vem zagotovo.
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I can hardly say I believe it.
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Komajda lahko rečem, da verjamem.
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I can only have faith in it,
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Imam lahko le vero,
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commit myself, that is, to the idea of it,
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to je, da se zavežem ideji miru
10:56
and I do this precisely because of the temptation
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in to storim ravno zaradi skušnjave,
10:59
to throw up my hands in resignation
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da bi dvignila roke
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and retreat into silence.
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in se umaknila v tišino.
11:05
Because despair is self-fulfilling.
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Kajti obup je samoizpolnjujoča prerokba.
11:09
If we call something impossible,
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Če nekaj označimo kot nemogoče,
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we act in such a way that we make it so.
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delujemo tako, da to naredimo takšno.
11:16
And I, for one, refuse to live that way.
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In jaz, za začetek, nočem živeti tako.
11:21
In fact, most of us do,
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Pravzaprav nas večina noče.
11:24
whether we're atheist or theist
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Ali ste ateisti ali teisti
11:27
or anywhere in between or beyond, for that matter,
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ali kjerkoli vmes ali izven, kar se tega tiče,
11:31
what drives us is that, despite our doubts
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kar nas žene, je dejstvo, da kljub našim dvomom
11:36
and even because of our doubts,
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in celo zaradi njih,
11:38
we reject the nihilism of despair.
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zavračamo nihilizem obupa.
11:42
We insist on faith in the future
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Vztrajamo pri veri v prihodnost
11:46
and in each other.
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in v drug drugega.
11:50
Call this naive if you like.
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Recite temu naivnost, če hočete.
11:54
Call it impossibly idealistic if you must.
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Recite temu nemogoč idealizem, če že morate.
11:57
But one thing is sure:
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A nekaj je gotovo:
11:59
Call it human.
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recite temu človeško.
12:03
Could Muhammad have so radically changed his world
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Ali bi lahko Mohamed tako radikalno spremenil svoj svet
12:06
without such faith, without the refusal
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brez takšne vere, ne da bi zavrnil
12:09
to cede to the arrogance of closed-minded certainty?
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aroganco gotovosti omejenega duha?
12:13
I think not.
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Mislim, da ne.
12:17
After keeping company with him as a writer
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Po tem, ko sem mu delala družbo kot pisateljica
12:19
for the past five years, I can't see
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zadnjih pet let, ne morem reči,
12:22
that he'd be anything but utterly outraged
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da bi bil karkoli drugega kot skrajno ogorčen
12:27
at the militant fundamentalists who claim to speak
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nad militantnimi fundamentalisti, ki trdijo, da danes govorijo
12:30
and act in his name in the Middle East and elsewhere today.
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in delujejo v njegovem imenu na Bližnjem vzhodu in drugod.
12:36
He'd be appalled at the repression of half the population
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Bil bi zgrožen nad zatiranjem polovice prebivalstva
12:40
because of their gender.
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zaradi njihovega spola.
12:43
He'd be torn apart by the bitter divisiveness of sectarianism.
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Bil bi užaloščen zaradi grenkih sporov sektaštva.
12:51
He'd call out terrorism for what it is,
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Terorizem bi označil za tisto, kar dejansko je,
12:54
not only criminal but an obscene travesty
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ne le kriminalno, ampak tudi nespodobno popačenje
12:59
of everything he believed in and struggled for.
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vsega, v kar je verjel in za kar se je boril.
13:03
He'd say what the Koran says: Anyone who takes a life
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Rekel bi, kar pravi tudi Koran: Vsakdo, ki vzame eno življenje,
13:09
takes the life of all humanity.
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vzame življenje celotnemu človeštvu.
13:12
Anyone who saves a life, saves the life of all humanity.
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Vsakdo, ki reši eno življenje, reši življenje celotnemu človeštvu.
13:19
And he'd commit himself fully
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In globoko bi se zavezal
13:22
to the hard and thorny process of making peace.
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težki in trnovi poti do miru.
13:29
Thank you.
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Hvala.
13:31
(Applause)
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(Aplavz)
13:35
Thank you. (Applause)
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Hvala. (Aplavz)
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