Lesley Hazleton: The doubt essential to faith

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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翻译人员: 聪 龚 校对人员: Shengwei Cai
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Writing biography is a strange thing to do.
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写传记是件奇怪的事情
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It's a journey into the foreign territory
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它像一段踏入异域
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of somebody else's life,
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另一个人生活的旅程
这段旅程让你去探索
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a journey, an exploration that can take you places
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你做梦都没去过的地方
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you never dreamed of going
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and still can't quite believe you've been,
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然后仍不能相信你所到达的地方
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especially if, like me, you're an agnostic Jew
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尤其当你像我一样,是一个不可知论者的犹太人
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and the life you've been exploring
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你所探索的又是
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is that of Muhammad.
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先知穆罕默德的生平
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Five years ago, for instance,
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举个例子,五年前
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I found myself waking each morning in misty Seattle
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当我每天在雾气弥漫的西雅图醒来时
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to what I knew was an impossible question:
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总有一个天马行空的问题:
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What actually happened
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隔着半个世界,半个历史
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one desert night,
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在沙漠的那个夜晚
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half the world and almost half of history away?
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到底发生了什么?
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What happened, that is,
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公元610年的那个夜晚
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on the night in the year 610
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当穆罕默德
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when Muhammad received the first revelation of the Koran
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在麦加郊外的一座山上第一次接受古兰经启示的时候
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on a mountain just outside Mecca?
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当时到底发生了什么?
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This is the core mystical moment of Islam,
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这是伊斯兰教最重要的神秘时刻
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and as such, of course,
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当然了
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it defies empirical analysis.
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无法对其进行实证分析
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Yet the question wouldn't let go of me.
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然而这个问题却挥之不去
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I was fully aware that for someone as secular as I am,
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我了解像我这样的俗人
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just asking it could be seen
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只是问个这样一个问题
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as pure chutzpah.
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纯粹就是胆大包天
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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And I plead guilty as charged,
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我承认这一点
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because all exploration, physical or intellectual,
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因为任何肉体上或精神上的探索
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is inevitably in some sense an act of transgression,
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都无法避免的会亵渎和越界
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of crossing boundaries.
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Still, some boundaries are larger than others.
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然而,有些领域的边界更为宽广
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So a human encountering the divine,
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所以当一个人碰到了神
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as Muslims believe Muhammad did,
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就像穆斯林相信穆罕默德那样
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to the rationalist, this is a matter not of fact
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对于理性主义者来说,这并不是事实,而是妄想
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but of wishful fiction,
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就像大多数在座的各位一样,我是一个理性的人
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and like all of us, I like to think of myself as rational.
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这也许就是为什么当我查看
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Which might be why when I looked at the earliest accounts
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关于那夜最原始的记录时
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we have of that night,
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比起那夜发生了什么,让我更吃惊的是
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what struck me even more than what happened
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was what did not happen.
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那些没有发生的事情的原因
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Muhammad did not come floating off the mountain
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穆罕穆德没有像在空中行走一般
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as though walking on air.
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从山上漂浮下来
他没有跑下来大喊:"哈利路亚!”
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He did not run down shouting, "Hallelujah!"
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and "Bless the Lord!"
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和“感谢上帝!”
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He did not radiate light and joy.
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他没有散发着光芒和喜悦,
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There were no choirs of angels,
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没有天使合唱
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no music of the spheres, no elation, no ecstasy,
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没有音乐笼罩,没有兴高采烈,没有心醉神迷
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no golden aura surrounding him,
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他周围没有金色光环
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no sense of an absolute, fore-ordained role
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没有一点表明他就是那个绝对的、注定的
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as the messenger of God.
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上帝的使者的意思
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That is, he did none of the things
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也就是说,他完全没有做过这些事情
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that might make it easy to cry foul,
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而这些事情容易让人们觉得很假
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to put down the whole story as a pious fable.
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从而把整个故事当做一个虔诚的寓言来看待
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Quite the contrary.
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恰恰相反
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In his own reported words,
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根据他自己的描述
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he was convinced at first
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他起初认为
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that what had happened couldn't have been real.
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发生的事情是不真实的
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At best, he thought, it had to have been a hallucination --
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他认为那顶多也就是幻觉
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a trick of the eye or the ear, perhaps,
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也许是一个对眼睛和耳朵的小把戏
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or his own mind working against him.
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或是他自己的脑袋跟他作对
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At worst, possession --
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往坏处想,他是被附身了
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that he'd been seized by an evil jinn,
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他被一个邪恶的神灵抓住了
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a spirit out to deceive him,
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要来欺骗他
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even to crush the life out of him.
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甚至要取走他的性命
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In fact, he was so sure that he could only be majnun,
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事实上,因为他非常肯定他只能是一个
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possessed by a jinn,
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被神灵附身的摩君
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that when he found himself still alive,
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所以当他发现自己还活着的时候
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his first impulse was to finish the job himself,
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他首先的冲动就是了结自己
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to leap off the highest cliff
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从最高的悬崖下跳下
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and escape the terror of what he'd experienced
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结束一切感觉
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by putting an end to all experience.
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来逃避他经历过的恐怖
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So the man who fled down the mountain that night
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所以,那夜他从山上飞奔而下
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trembled not with joy
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不是因为喜悦而颤抖
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but with a stark, primordial fear.
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而是因为赤裸裸的、原始的恐惧
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He was overwhelmed not with conviction, but by doubt.
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他心中没有充满坚定的信念,而是疑惑
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And that panicked disorientation,
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正是那种受到惊吓的迷失
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that sundering of everything familiar,
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那种与一切熟悉事物的决绝
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that daunting awareness of something
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那种对超越人类理解范围
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beyond human comprehension,
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的事物的令人生畏的觉察
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can only be called a terrible awe.
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才能够被称作无比的敬畏
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This might be somewhat difficult to grasp
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这可能有点儿难理解
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now that we use the word "awesome"
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现在我们用“棒极了”
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to describe a new app or a viral video.
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来评价一款新的应用或一段热门视频
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With the exception perhaps of a massive earthquake,
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也许大地震的视频除外
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we're protected from real awe.
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但我们离真正的敬畏还很远
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We close the doors and hunker down,
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我们关上门,蹲下来
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convinced that we're in control,
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相信一些都在掌控之中
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or, at least, hoping for control.
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或者,至少希望一些都在掌控之中
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We do our best to ignore the fact that
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我们尽量忽略这样一个事实:
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we don't always have it,
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我们并不总是有这样的敬畏之情
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and that not everything can be explained.
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同时并非一切都可以得到解释
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Yet whether you're a rationalist or a mystic,
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然而,无论你是一个理性主义者,还是一个不可知论者
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whether you think the words Muhammad heard that night
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无论你认为穆罕穆德那夜听到的话
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came from inside himself or from outside,
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是发自他的内心,还是来自外界
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what's clear is that he did experience them,
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很清楚的是他的确经历了它们
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and that he did so with a force that would shatter
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并且他如此做时,有一种力量会粉碎
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his sense of himself and his world
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他的感觉和他的世界
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and transform this otherwise modest man
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将这个本来谦逊的人
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into a radical advocate for social and economic justice.
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转变为一个激进的社会和经济公平的倡议者
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Fear was the only sane response,
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恐惧是唯一理智的反应
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the only human response.
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唯一的人性的反应
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Too human for some,
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对有些人来说可能太人性了
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like conservative Muslim theologians who maintain that
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像那些保守的穆斯林神学家坚持认为
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the account of his wanting to kill himself
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穆罕穆德想自杀的描述
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shouldn't even be mentioned, despite the fact
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根本不应该被提及,尽管那是
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that it's in the earliest Islamic biographies.
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最早的伊斯兰传记
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They insist that he never doubted
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他们坚持认为穆罕穆德
从未有过一刻的怀疑,更别说绝望了
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for even a single moment, let alone despaired.
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Demanding perfection, they refuse to tolerate
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他们想要完美,所以拒绝容忍
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human imperfection.
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人性的不完美
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Yet what, exactly, is imperfect about doubt?
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那么,怀疑的不完美性到底在哪儿?
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As I read those early accounts, I realized it was
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当我在读这些早期的描述时,我意识到
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precisely Muhammad's doubt that brought him alive for me,
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正是穆罕穆德的怀疑让他在我面前栩栩如生
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that allowed me to begin to see him in full,
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让我开始更加全面地认识他
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to accord him the integrity of reality.
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把他和现实联系起来
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And the more I thought about it,
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我越想越觉得
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the more it made sense that he doubted,
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他怀疑是因为
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because doubt is essential to faith.
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怀疑是信仰的关键所在
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If this seems a startling idea at first,
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如果这听起来很让人吃惊的话
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consider that doubt, as Graham Greene once put it,
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想一想格雷厄姆·格林曾说过
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is the heart of the matter.
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怀疑是事物的核心
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Abolish all doubt, and what's left is not faith,
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除却所有怀疑,剩下的不会是信仰
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but absolute, heartless conviction.
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只是绝对的、没有感情的相信
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You're certain that you possess the Truth --
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你确信你拥有真理
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inevitably offered with an implied uppercase T --
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--不可避免的有一个明显的大写的T--
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and this certainty quickly devolves
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同时这种确信很快
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into dogmatism and righteousness,
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演变为教条主义和正义
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by which I mean a demonstrative, overweening pride
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就是一种由于无比的正确
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in being so very right,
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而带有的示范性的、自负的骄傲
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in short, the arrogance of fundamentalism.
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即原教旨主义的傲慢
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It has to be one of the multiple ironies of history
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这定是历史上众多讽刺中的一个
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that a favorite expletive of Muslim fundamentalists
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即穆斯林原教旨主义者喜爱的一句咒骂语
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is the same one once used by the Christian fundamentalists
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和基督教原教旨主义者曾经使用的是同一个
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known as Crusaders:
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著名的十字军
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"infidel," from the Latin for "faithless."
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“异教徒”,源于拉丁语中的“没有信仰”
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Doubly ironic, in this case, because their absolutism
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这里更加讽刺的是,他们的绝对主义
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is in fact the opposite of faith.
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事实上正是信仰的对立
实际上,他们才是异教徒
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In effect, they are the infidels.
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Like fundamentalists of all religious stripes,
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向所有不同宗教的原教旨主义者一样
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they have no questions, only answers.
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他们没有问题,只有答案
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They found the perfect antidote to thought
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他们为思考找到了最佳的解毒药
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and the ideal refuge of the hard demands of real faith.
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为对真正的信仰的渴望提供理想的庇护
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They don't have to struggle for it like Jacob
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他们不必像雅各布那样挣扎
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wrestling through the night with the angel,
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整夜与天使博弈
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or like Jesus in his 40 days and nights in the wilderness,
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或像耶稣那样在野外呆上40个日夜
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or like Muhammad, not only that night on the mountain,
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或像穆罕穆德那样,不仅是在山顶的那夜
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but throughout his years as a prophet,
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而是在他作为预言者的那些岁月中
《可兰经》一直鼓励他不要放弃
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with the Koran constantly urging him not to despair,
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and condemning those who most loudly proclaim
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同时指责那些大声宣称自己
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that they know everything there is to know
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凡所应知,无所不知
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and that they and they alone are right.
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以及只有自己才是正确的人
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And yet we, the vast and still far too silent majority,
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然而,我们这些太过沉默的大多数
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have ceded the public arena to this extremist minority.
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已经把舞台让给那些少数的极端主义者
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We've allowed Judaism to be claimed
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我们已经允许约旦河西岸
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by violently messianic West Bank settlers,
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暴力的狂热定居者宣称自己是犹太教
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Christianity by homophobic hypocrites
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允许憎恶同性恋的伪善者和厌恶女性的偏执狂
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and misogynistic bigots,
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宣称自己是基督徒
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Islam by suicide bombers.
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允许自杀式炸弹袭击者称自己是伊斯兰教
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And we've allowed ourselves to be blinded to the fact that
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我们已经允许自己对这样的事实视而不见
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no matter whether they claim to be Christians,
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不管他们称自己是基督徒
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Jews or Muslims,
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犹太人还是穆斯林
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militant extremists are none of the above.
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军事极端主义者不会是上面任何一种
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They're a cult all their own, blood brothers
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他们是邪教
是沉浸在他人的鲜血中的血腥兄弟
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steeped in other people's blood.
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This isn't faith.
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这不是信仰
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It's fanaticism, and we have to stop confusing the two.
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而是狂热主义,我们必须停止混淆二者
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We have to recognize that real faith has no easy answers.
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我们必须认识到信仰没有简单的答案
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It's difficult and stubborn.
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它是困难的、执拗的
它需要不断的挣扎
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It involves an ongoing struggle,
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a continual questioning of what we think we know,
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不断怀疑我们以为自己所知道的
它是一场问题和想法的博弈
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a wrestling with issues and ideas.
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It goes hand in hand with doubt,
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在它和怀疑无休止的对话中
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in a never-ending conversation with it,
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它和怀疑如影随形
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and sometimes in conscious defiance of it.
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有时它会有意地拒绝怀疑
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And this conscious defiance is why I, as an agnostic,
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作为一名无可知论者,这种有意的拒绝就是
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can still have faith.
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我仍然会有信仰的原因
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I have faith, for instance, that peace in the Middle East
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比如,我相信中东地区会实现和平
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is possible despite the ever-accumulating mass of evidence
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尽管有越来越多的证据
证明事实恰恰相反
10:43
to the contrary.
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10:46
I'm not convinced of this.
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我不确信这一点
10:48
I can hardly say I believe it.
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也很难说我相信这一点
10:50
I can only have faith in it,
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我只能对此抱有信仰
10:52
commit myself, that is, to the idea of it,
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即致力于它的理念
10:56
and I do this precisely because of the temptation
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我这样做是正是因为诱惑
10:59
to throw up my hands in resignation
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它让我举起双手服从
11:01
and retreat into silence.
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回到沉默当中
11:05
Because despair is self-fulfilling.
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因为绝望是一种自我实现
11:09
If we call something impossible,
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如果我们认为它不可能
11:12
we act in such a way that we make it so.
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我们就会以这样的方式让它变成不可能
11:16
And I, for one, refuse to live that way.
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对我来说,我拒绝这样生活
11:21
In fact, most of us do,
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事实上,我们大多数拒绝这样生活
11:24
whether we're atheist or theist
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无论我们是无神论者,还是有神论者
11:27
or anywhere in between or beyond, for that matter,
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或中间的任何一点或超越二者,就此而言
11:31
what drives us is that, despite our doubts
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让我们前进的,尽管我们会怀疑
甚至因为我们的怀疑
11:36
and even because of our doubts,
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11:38
we reject the nihilism of despair.
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正是我们拒绝无望的虚无主义
11:42
We insist on faith in the future
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我们坚持对未来的信仰
对彼此的信仰
11:46
and in each other.
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11:50
Call this naive if you like.
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随便你把它叫做天真
11:54
Call it impossibly idealistic if you must.
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也随便你把它叫做不可能的理想主义
11:57
But one thing is sure:
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但是有一点是确定的:
11:59
Call it human.
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把它叫做人性
12:03
Could Muhammad have so radically changed his world
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穆罕穆德能够彻底的改变他的世界吗?
12:06
without such faith, without the refusal
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如果没有这样的信仰
没有拒绝固执地确信的傲慢?
12:09
to cede to the arrogance of closed-minded certainty?
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12:13
I think not.
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我认为他不会
12:17
After keeping company with him as a writer
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在过去的五年里
作为一位陪伴他的作家
12:19
for the past five years, I can't see
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我看到他不是别的什么
12:22
that he'd be anything but utterly outraged
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而是对今天那些在中东和其它地方借他之名
12:27
at the militant fundamentalists who claim to speak
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12:30
and act in his name in the Middle East and elsewhere today.
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的军事原教旨主义者的全然愤怒
12:36
He'd be appalled at the repression of half the population
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他会惊讶于对半数人口的压迫
12:40
because of their gender.
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因为她们的性别
12:43
He'd be torn apart by the bitter divisiveness of sectarianism.
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他会被宗教派别之间充满愤怒的不和摧垮
12:51
He'd call out terrorism for what it is,
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他会直呼其为恐怖主义
12:54
not only criminal but an obscene travesty
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不仅是犯罪,还是对他所相信的和所斗争的
肮脏的歪曲
12:59
of everything he believed in and struggled for.
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13:03
He'd say what the Koran says: Anyone who takes a life
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他会照着《古兰经》说:任何人
夺走一条生命,就夺走了全人类的生命
13:09
takes the life of all humanity.
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13:12
Anyone who saves a life, saves the life of all humanity.
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任何人拯救一条生命,就拯救了全人类的生命
13:19
And he'd commit himself fully
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他会全身心地投入
13:22
to the hard and thorny process of making peace.
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艰难的、充满荆棘的和平之路
13:29
Thank you.
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谢谢!
(掌声)
13:31
(Applause)
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13:35
Thank you. (Applause)
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谢谢!(掌声)
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