Daniel Goleman: Why arent we all Good Samaritans?

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Traducător: Bianca Bardas Corector: Maria Tancu
00:13
You know, I'm struck by how one of the implicit themes of TED
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Stiti, sunt uimit ca una dintre temele implicite la TED
00:17
is compassion, these very moving demonstrations we've just seen:
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este compasiunea. Aceste demonstatii impresionante pe care tocmai le-am vazut:
00:21
HIV in Africa, President Clinton last night.
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HIV in Africa, presedintele Clinton in prezentarea de aseara,
00:25
And I'd like to do a little collateral thinking, if you will,
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si as vrea, cu voia voastra, sa exersam un pic gandirea colaterala
00:30
about compassion and bring it from the global level to the personal.
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pe tema compasiunii si sa o aducem de la un nivel general la unul personal.
00:35
I'm a psychologist, but rest assured,
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Sunt psiholog, dar va asigur
00:37
I will not bring it to the scrotal.
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ca nu voi intra pe panta sexuala.
00:39
(Laughter)
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(Rasete)
00:44
There was a very important study done a while ago
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Exista un studiu foarte important realizat mai de demult
00:46
at Princeton Theological Seminary that speaks to why it is
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la Seminarul Teologic Princeton, in care se vorbeste despre motivele pentru care,
00:51
that when all of us have so many opportunities to help,
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desi avem atat de multe ocazii sa ajutam,
00:54
we do sometimes, and we don't other times.
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uneori o facem si alteori nu.
00:58
A group of divinity students at the Princeton Theological Seminary
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Unui grup de studenti ai Seminarului Teologic Princeton
01:02
were told that they were going to give a practice sermon
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i s-a spus ca vor urma sa tina un exercitiu de predica
01:06
and they were each given a sermon topic.
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si fiecaruia i s-a dat subiectul predicii.
01:09
Half of those students were given, as a topic,
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Jumatate dintre ei au primit ca si subiect
01:12
the parable of the Good Samaritan:
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parabola Bunului Samaritean:
01:14
the man who stopped the stranger in --
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omul care a oprit un strain...
01:17
to help the stranger in need by the side of the road.
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care s-a oprit si a ajutat un strain la ananghie aflat pe marginea drumului.
01:19
Half were given random Bible topics.
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Cealalta jumatate a primit subiecte aleatorii din Biblie.
01:22
Then one by one, they were told they had to go to another building
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Apoi, fiecaruia, rand pe rand i s-a spus sa se duca in alta cladire
01:26
and give their sermon.
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si sa isi sustina predica.
01:27
As they went from the first building to the second,
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Mergand de la prima cladire la cea de-a doua,
01:30
each of them passed a man who was bent over and moaning,
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fiecare dintre ei a trecut pe langa un om care era aplecat si gemea,
01:34
clearly in need. The question is: Did they stop to help?
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clar in nevoie. Intrebarea este: s-au oprit sa il ajute?
01:38
The more interesting question is:
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O intrebare si mai interesanta este:
01:40
Did it matter they were contemplating the parable
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A contat ca meditau la parabola
01:43
of the Good Samaritan? Answer: No, not at all.
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Bunului Samaritean? Raspunsul: Nu, nu a contat deloc.
01:48
What turned out to determine whether someone would stop
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Ceea ce s-a dovedit ca a determinat daca cineva se oprea
01:51
and help a stranger in need
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sa ajute strainul care avea nevoie de ajutor
01:52
was how much of a hurry they thought they were in --
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a fost graba in care credeau ca se afla,
01:56
were they feeling they were late, or were they absorbed
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daca simteau ca sunt in intarziere sau erau absorbiti
02:00
in what they were going to talk about.
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de ceea ce aveau sa prezinte.
02:02
And this is, I think, the predicament of our lives:
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Si cred ca acesta este necazul cu viata noastra:
02:05
that we don't take every opportunity to help
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ca nu ne folosim de fiecare ocazie de a ajuta
02:09
because our focus is in the wrong direction.
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pentru ca suntem concentrati in directia gresita.
02:12
There's a new field in brain science, social neuroscience.
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Exista un nou domeniu in cadrul neurologiei, stiinta neuro-sociala.
02:16
This studies the circuitry in two people's brains
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Acesta studiaza circuitul din creierele a doua persoane
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that activates while they interact.
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care se activeaza in timp ce interactioneaza.
02:22
And the new thinking about compassion from social neuroscience
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Noua abordare legata de compasiune din punct de vedere al stiintei neuro-sociale
02:26
is that our default wiring is to help.
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este ca circuitele noastre de baza sunt create sa ajute.
02:30
That is to say, if we attend to the other person,
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Asta inseamna ca, daca ingrijim o alta persoana,
02:35
we automatically empathize, we automatically feel with them.
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automat empatizam, automat intram in rezonanta.
02:39
There are these newly identified neurons, mirror neurons,
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Exista niste neuroni nou identificati, neuroni gemeni,
02:41
that act like a neuro Wi-Fi, activating in our brain
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care actioneaza ca neuroni Wi-Fi, activand in creierul nostru
02:45
exactly the areas activated in theirs. We feel "with" automatically.
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exact zonele activate in creierul celeilate persoane. Intram in rezonanta automat.
02:49
And if that person is in need, if that person is suffering,
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Daca cealalta persoana se afla la nevoie, daca acea persoana sufera,
02:54
we're automatically prepared to help. At least that's the argument.
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suntem automat pregatiti sa ajutam. Dovada, cel putin, aceasta este argumentatia.
02:58
But then the question is: Why don't we?
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Dar atunci intrebarea este: de ce nu o facem?
03:01
And I think this speaks to a spectrum
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Cred ca aceasta se refera la un spectru
03:04
that goes from complete self-absorption,
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care merge de la o completa auto-preocupare
03:07
to noticing, to empathy and to compassion.
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pana la observare, empatie si compasiune.
03:09
And the simple fact is, if we are focused on ourselves,
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Si realitatea este ca, daca suntem concentrati pe noi insine,
03:14
if we're preoccupied, as we so often are throughout the day,
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daca suntem preocupati, asa cum deseori suntem pe parcursul unei zile,
03:17
we don't really fully notice the other.
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nu ii observam pe ceilalti cu adevarat.
03:20
And this difference between the self and the other focus
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Si diferenta dintre atentia concentrata pe noi si pe ceilalti
03:22
can be very subtle.
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poate fi foarte fina.
03:23
I was doing my taxes the other day, and I got to the point
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Acum cateva zile imi calculam impozitele si am ajuns la punctul
03:27
where I was listing all of the donations I gave,
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in care am insirat toate donatiile facute
03:30
and I had an epiphany, it was -- I came to my check
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si am avut o revelatie: am ajuns la un cec
03:33
to the Seva Foundation and I noticed that I thought,
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catre Fundatia Seva si am observat cum gandeam
03:36
boy, my friend Larry Brilliant would really be happy
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ca prietenul meu Larry Brilliant ar fi chiar fericit
03:39
that I gave money to Seva.
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ca am donat bani catre Seva.
03:40
Then I realized that what I was getting from giving
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Apoi am realizat ca ceea ce obtineam din donatie
03:43
was a narcissistic hit -- that I felt good about myself.
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era un succes narcisistic: aveam o parere buna despre mine.
03:47
Then I started to think about the people in the Himalayas
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Apoi am inceput sa ma gandesc la oamenii din Himalaya
03:52
whose cataracts would be helped, and I realized
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ale caror cataracte vor fi vindecate si am realizat
03:55
that I went from this kind of narcissistic self-focus
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ca m-am deplasat de la un fel de auto-focus narcisist
03:59
to altruistic joy, to feeling good
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catre o bucurie altruista, la a ma simti bine
04:02
for the people that were being helped. I think that's a motivator.
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pentru oamenii care primeau ajutor. Cred ca acesta este un factor motivational.
04:06
But this distinction between focusing on ourselves
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Dar diferenta dintre a ne concentra pe noi insine
04:09
and focusing on others
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si a ne concentra pe altii
04:10
is one that I encourage us all to pay attention to.
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este una careia va incurajez sa ii dam cu totii atentie.
04:13
You can see it at a gross level in the world of dating.
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O puteti observa la nivel macro in lumea intalnirilor amoroase.
04:17
I was at a sushi restaurant a while back
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Am fost intr-un restaurant de sushi cu ceva timp in urma
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and I overheard two women talking about the brother of one woman,
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si am surprins doua femei vorbind despre fratele uneia dintre ele
04:24
who was in the singles scene. And this woman says,
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necasatorit. Si aceasta femeie spune:
04:27
"My brother is having trouble getting dates,
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"Fratele meu are probleme sa aiba intalniri
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so he's trying speed dating." I don't know if you know speed dating?
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asa ca incearca intalnirile rapide." Nu stiu daca sunteti familiarizati cu fenomenul.
04:31
Women sit at tables and men go from table to table,
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Femeile stau la mese si barbatii se muta de la o masa la alta
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and there's a clock and a bell, and at five minutes, bingo,
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si exista un ceas si un clopotel si la fiecare 5 minute, bingo,
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the conversation ends and the woman can decide
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conversatia se tremina si femeia poate decide
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whether to give her card or her email address to the man
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daca sa ii dea cartea de vizita sau adresa de e-mail barbatului
04:45
for follow up. And this woman says,
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pentru o continuare. Si aceasta femeie spunea:
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"My brother's never gotten a card, and I know exactly why.
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"Fratele meu nu a obtinut niciodata o carte de vizita. Si stiu exact de ce.
04:51
The moment he sits down, he starts talking non-stop about himself;
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Din momentul in care se aseaza, incepe sa vorbeasca in continuu despre el,
04:56
he never asks about the woman."
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si nu intreaba nimic despre femeie".
04:58
And I was doing some research in the Sunday Styles section
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Am facut un studiu pentru rubrica Sunday Styles
05:03
of The New York Times, looking at the back stories of marriages --
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a New York Times, uitatndu-ma la inceputurile casniciilor,
05:06
because they're very interesting -- and I came to the marriage
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pentru ca sunt foarte interesante - si am ajuns la casatoria
05:09
of Alice Charney Epstein. And she said
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lui Alice Charney Epstein. Ea spunea
05:12
that when she was in the dating scene,
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ca atunci cand era pe piata intalnirilor amoroase,
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she had a simple test she put people to.
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utiliza un test simplu cu care verifica oamenii.
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The test was: from the moment they got together,
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Testul era: din momentul in care se intalneau
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how long it would take the guy to ask her a question
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cat trecea pana cand tipul ii adresa ei o intrebare
05:23
with the word "you" in it.
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care continea cuvantul "tu".
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And apparently Epstein aced the test, therefore the article.
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Se pare ca Epstein a castigat testul, de unde si articolul.
05:29
(Laughter)
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(Rasete)
05:30
Now this is a -- it's a little test
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Va arat acum un mic test
05:32
I encourage you to try out at a party.
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pe care va incurajez sa il incercati la o petrecere.
05:34
Here at TED there are great opportunities.
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Aici la TED sunt multe momente prielnice.
05:38
The Harvard Business Review recently had an article called
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Harvard Business Review a prezentat de curand un articol intitulat
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"The Human Moment," about how to make real contact
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" Momentul Uman" despre cum sa interactionezi cu adevarat
05:44
with a person at work. And they said, well,
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cu o persoana de la birou. Si spuneau:
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the fundamental thing you have to do is turn off your BlackBerry,
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lucrul de baza pe care trebuie sa il faci este sa iti inchizi BlackBerry-ul,
05:51
close your laptop, end your daydream
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sa iti inchizi laptopul, sa nu mai visezi cu ochii deschisi
05:55
and pay full attention to the person.
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si sa ii oferi celuilalt atentia ta completa.
05:58
There is a newly coined word in the English language
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Exista un cuvant nou aparut in limba engleza
06:03
for the moment when the person we're with whips out their BlackBerry
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pentru momentul in care persoana cu care esti toceste tastele BlackBerry-ului
06:06
or answers that cell phone, and all of a sudden we don't exist.
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sau raspunde la mobilul si dintr-o data noi ceilalti nu mai existam.
06:10
The word is "pizzled": it's a combination of puzzled and pissed off.
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Cuvantul este "pizzled" o combinatie intre perplex si infuriat.
06:14
(Laughter)
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(Rasete)
06:17
I think it's quite apt. It's our empathy, it's our tuning in
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Cred ca se potriveste. Empatia, contactul
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which separates us from Machiavellians or sociopaths.
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ne separa de persoanele machiavelice sau sociopate.
06:27
I have a brother-in-law who's an expert on horror and terror --
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Am un cumnat expert in domeniul groazei si terorii
06:32
he wrote the Annotated Dracula, the Essential Frankenstein --
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a scris Insemnari despre Dracula, Frankenstein concis,
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he was trained as a Chaucer scholar,
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a fost educat ca discipol al lui Chaucer,
06:36
but he was born in Transylvania
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dar s-a nascut in Transilvania
06:38
and I think it affected him a little bit.
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si cred ca l-a afectat un pic.
06:40
At any rate, at one point my brother-in-law, Leonard,
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La un moment dat cumnatul meu, Leonard,
06:44
decided to write a book about a serial killer.
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s-a hotarat sa scrie o carte despre un criminal in serie.
06:46
This is a man who terrorized the very vicinity we're in
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Acesta teroriza chiar zona in care stateam
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many years ago. He was known as the Santa Cruz strangler.
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cu multi ani in urma. Era cunoscut drept sugrumatorul din Santa Cruz,
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And before he was arrested, he had murdered his grandparents,
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iar inainte sa fie arestat isi omorase bunicii,
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his mother and five co-eds at UC Santa Cruz.
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mama si 5 dintre colegii de la UC Santa Cruz.
07:01
So my brother-in-law goes to interview this killer
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Cumnatul meu merge sa intervieveze ucigasul
07:04
and he realizes when he meets him
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si cand il intalneste realizeaza
07:06
that this guy is absolutely terrifying.
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ca omul este absolut inspaimantator.
07:08
For one thing, he's almost seven feet tall.
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In primul rand are aproape 7 picioare inaltime,
07:10
But that's not the most terrifying thing about him.
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dar asta nu e cel mai inspaimantator lucru.
07:13
The scariest thing is that his IQ is 160: a certified genius.
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Cel mai infricosator este ca IQ-ul lui este 160: un geniu cu acte.
07:19
But there is zero correlation between IQ and emotional empathy,
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Dar corelatia este zero intre IQ si empatia emotionala,
07:23
feeling with the other person.
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relationarea cu o alta persoana.
07:25
They're controlled by different parts of the brain.
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Acestea sunt controlate de parti diferite ale creierului.
07:28
So at one point, my brother-in-law gets up the courage
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La un moment dat cumnatul meu isi face curaj
07:31
to ask the one question he really wants to know the answer to,
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si pune intrebarea la care vroia neaparat un raspuns:
07:33
and that is: how could you have done it?
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Cum ai putut sa faci asa ceva?
07:36
Didn't you feel any pity for your victims?
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Nu ai simtit niciun fel de mila pentru victime?
07:38
These were very intimate murders -- he strangled his victims.
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Crimele erau foarte intime - isi strangula victimele.
07:42
And the strangler says very matter-of-factly,
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Ucigasul raspune cu nonsalanta:
07:44
"Oh no. If I'd felt the distress, I could not have done it.
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"Nu. Daca as fi simtit discomfort, nu as fi putut sa o fac.
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I had to turn that part of me off. I had to turn that part of me off."
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A trebuit sa opresc acea parte a mea. A trebuit sa opresc acea parte a mea."
07:55
And I think that that is very troubling,
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Cred ca asta e foarte tulburator.
08:01
and in a sense, I've been reflecting on turning that part of us off.
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Intr-un fel m-am gandit la oprirea acelei parti din fiecare dintre noi.
08:05
When we focus on ourselves in any activity,
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Cand suntem absorbiti de orice si ne concentram asupra noastra
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we do turn that part of ourselves off if there's another person.
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chiar blocam acea parte a noastra ca si cand am fi alta persoana.
08:12
Think about going shopping and think about the possibilities
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Ganditi-va la fenomenul cumparaturilor si la posibilitatea
08:17
of a compassionate consumerism.
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unui consumerism milos.
08:20
Right now, as Bill McDonough has pointed out,
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In acest moment, asa cum sublinia Bill McDonough,
08:24
the objects that we buy and use have hidden consequences.
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obiectele pe care le cumparam si le folosim au consecinte ascunse.
08:28
We're all unwitting victims of a collective blind spot.
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Suntem cu totii victimele inocente ale unui unghi mort colectiv.
08:32
We don't notice and don't notice that we don't notice
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Nu observam si nu observam ca nu observam
08:35
the toxic molecules emitted by a carpet or by the fabric on the seats.
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moleculele toxice emise de un covor sau de tapiteria de pe scaune.
08:42
Or we don't know if that fabric is a technological
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Nu stim daca materialul este un nutrient tehnologic
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or manufacturing nutrient; it can be reused
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sau lucrat de mana; poate fi refolosit
08:51
or does it just end up at landfill? In other words,
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sau ajunge la groapa de gunoi? Cu alte cuvinte,
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we're oblivious to the ecological and public health
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suntem orbi la consecintele ecologice si de sanatate publica,
08:59
and social and economic justice consequences
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de dreptate sociala si economica
09:02
of the things we buy and use.
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ale lucrurilor pe care le cumparam si folosim.
09:06
In a sense, the room itself is the elephant in the room,
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Intr-un fel camera in sine este elefantul din camera,
09:10
but we don't see it. And we've become victims
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doar ca nu il vedem. Si am devenit victimele
09:14
of a system that points us elsewhere. Consider this.
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unui sistem care ne indreapta in alta directie. Ganditi-va la asta.
09:18
There's a wonderful book called
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Exista o carte minunata numita:
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Stuff: The Hidden Life of Everyday Objects.
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"Lucruri: viata ascunsa a obiectelor uzuale"
09:25
And it talks about the back story of something like a t-shirt.
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si vorbeste despre povestea din spatele unui tricou,
09:28
And it talks about where the cotton was grown
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despre locul in care a fost cultivat bumbacul
09:31
and the fertilizers that were used and the consequences
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ingrasamintele folosite si consecintele lor
09:33
for soil of that fertilizer. And it mentions, for instance,
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asupra solului. Cartea mentioneaza, de exemplu,
09:37
that cotton is very resistant to textile dye;
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ca bumbacul este foarte rezistent la colorantii textili;
09:40
about 60 percent washes off into wastewater.
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in jur de 60% se pierde in apa reziduala.
09:43
And it's well known by epidemiologists that kids
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E un lucru bine stiu de catre epidemiologi ca acei copii
09:46
who live near textile works tend to have high rates of leukemia.
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care locuiesc in preajma fabricilor de textile tind sa aiba leucemie intr-o mai mare masura.
09:52
There's a company, Bennett and Company, that supplies Polo.com,
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Exista o companie, Bennett and Company, care este furnizor pentru Polo,
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Victoria's Secret -- they, because of their CEO, who's aware of this,
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Victoria' Secret. Acestia, datorita directorului general care este constient de ce se intampla,
10:03
in China formed a joint venture with their dye works
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a creat in China o alianta cu fabrica de coloranti
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to make sure that the wastewater
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pentru a se asigura ca apa reziduala
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would be properly taken care of before it returned to the groundwater.
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va fi tratata corespunzator inainte de a se intoarce in pamant.
10:13
Right now, we don't have the option to choose the virtuous t-shirt
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In prezent nu avem posibilitatea de a alege intre tricoul merituos
10:18
over the non-virtuous one. So what would it take to do that?
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si cel imoral. De ce ar fi nevoie ca sa facem asta?
10:25
Well, I've been thinking. For one thing,
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Ei bine, m-am gandit. Si in primul rand,
10:28
there's a new electronic tagging technology that allows any store
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exista o tehnologie noua de marcaj electronic care permite oricarui magazin
10:33
to know the entire history of any item on the shelves in that store.
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sa afle intregul istoric al oricarui obiect de pe raftul magazinului.
10:38
You can track it back to the factory. Once you can track it
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Poti sa il urmaresti pana la fabrica de unde provine. Odata ce il poti urmari
10:40
back to the factory, you can look at the manufacturing processes
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pana la fabrica, poti analiza procesele de productie
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that were used to make it, and if it's virtuous,
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folosite pentru fabricare si, daca este corect,
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you can label it that way. Or if it's not so virtuous,
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il poti eticheta ca atare.Iar daca nu este chiar corect,
10:52
you can go into -- today, go into any store,
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poti merge, chiar astazi, poti merge in orice magazin
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put your scanner on a palm onto a barcode,
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si scanand codul de bare
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which will take you to a website.
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vei ajunge pe un site web.
11:01
They have it for people with allergies to peanuts.
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Site-ul a fost creat pentru oamenii alergici la alune.
11:04
That website could tell you things about that object.
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Pe site poti gasi date despre obiectul respectiv.
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In other words, at point of purchase,
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Cu alte cuvinte, in momentul achizitiei,
11:08
we might be able to make a compassionate choice.
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putem sa facem o alegere bazata pe compasiune.
11:12
There's a saying in the world of information science:
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Exista o zicala in lumea informaticii:
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ultimately everybody will know everything.
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intr-un final toata lumea va stii tot.
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And the question is: will it make a difference?
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Intrebarea este: va face vreo diferenta?
11:25
Some time ago when I was working for The New York Times,
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Cu ceva timp in urma, cand lucram pentru New York Times,
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it was in the '80s, I did an article
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era in anii '80, am scris un articol
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on what was then a new problem in New York --
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despre ceva ce atunci reprezenta o problema in New York:
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it was homeless people on the streets.
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oamenii fara adapost de pe strazi.
11:35
And I spent a couple of weeks going around with a social work agency
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Am petrecut cateva saptamani pe teren cu o agentie de ajutor social
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that ministered to the homeless. And I realized seeing the homeless
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care avea grija de cei fara adapost. Am realizat privindu-i
11:42
through their eyes that almost all of them were psychiatric patients
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prin ochii lor ca aproape toti erau pacienti de psihiatrie
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that had nowhere to go. They had a diagnosis. It made me --
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care nu aveau unde sa se duca. Erau diagnosticati.
11:52
what it did was to shake me out of the urban trance where,
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Efectul asupra mea a fost sa ma scuture din transa urbana in care,
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when we see, when we're passing someone who's homeless
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atunci cand vedem in trecere un cersetor
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in the periphery of our vision, it stays on the periphery.
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cu coltul ochiului, ramane acolo, in zona periferica.
12:04
We don't notice and therefore we don't act.
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Nu observam si in consecinta nu actionam.
12:09
One day soon after that -- it was a Friday -- at the end of the day,
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Intr-o zi imediat urmatorare, era o vineri, la sfarsitul zilei,
12:14
I went down -- I was going down to the subway. It was rush hour
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coboram spre metrou. Era ora de varf
12:17
and thousands of people were streaming down the stairs.
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si mii de oameni se scurgeau pe scari.
12:19
And all of a sudden as I was going down the stairs
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Din senin pe cand coboram scarile
12:21
I noticed that there was a man slumped to the side,
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am observat ca era un om cazut intr-o parte
12:24
shirtless, not moving, and people were just stepping over him --
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fara camasa, nu misca, iar oamenii treceau peste el,
12:29
hundreds and hundreds of people.
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sute si sute de oameni.
12:31
And because my urban trance had been somehow weakened,
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Pentru ca transa mea urbana fusese oarecum slabita
12:35
I found myself stopping to find out what was wrong.
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m-am oprit sa vad ce se intamplase.
12:39
The moment I stopped, half a dozen other people
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In momentul in care m-am oprit, jumatate de duzina de alti oameni
12:42
immediately ringed the same guy.
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au sesizat imediat acelasi tip.
12:44
And we found out that he was Hispanic, he didn't speak any English,
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Am aflat ca era hispanic, nu vorbea engleza deloc,
12:46
he had no money, he'd been wandering the streets for days, starving,
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nu avea bani, bantuise pe strazi zile intregi, infometat,
12:51
and he'd fainted from hunger.
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si lesinase de foame.
12:52
Immediately someone went to get orange juice,
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Imediat cineva s-a dus sa ia suc de portocale,
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someone brought a hotdog, someone brought a subway cop.
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cineva a adus un hotdog, altcineva a chemat paza de la metrou.
12:57
This guy was back on his feet immediately.
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Individul a fost imediat inapoi pe picioare.
13:00
But all it took was that simple act of noticing,
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A fost necesar doar un simplu act de observare.
13:05
and so I'm optimistic.
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Asa ca sunt optimist.
13:06
Thank you very much.
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Multumesc foarte mult.
13:07
(Applause)
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